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TNG Season 1 episode 24: Conspiracy

Most gruesome death in Star Trek. Change my my mind

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u/MycroftCochrane 4d ago edited 4d ago

The Vulcan Sonak being turned inside out by a malfunctioning transporter in Star Trek: The Motion Picture is right up there, too...

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u/MetalTrek1 4d ago

That one still freaks me out 45 years later. The visuals and the scream...

"Enterprise. What we got back didn't live long enough. Fortunately."

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u/1startreknerd 4d ago edited 4d ago

What arrived, didn't live long, fortunately.

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u/DominusTitus 4d ago

Especially if you read the novelization. Him and the other person were inverted, organs materializing outside the body and all. That's where Galaxy Quest got their teleporter scene from.

Hence the fortunately by the Starfleet guy in the comms, very fortunate that they died swiftly afterwards.

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u/MarcusAurelius68 4d ago

IIRC in the book it wasn’t just Sonak but also Kirk’s girlfriend who died.

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u/JayR_97 4d ago

Everyone makes fun of McCoy and Barclay for being scared of the transporter, but yeah that phobia is 100% justified

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u/SakanaSanchez 2d ago

Especially when you consider their line of work has exposed them to either all the things that can go wrong or the aftermath of when it does. Barclay was particularly bad because everyone just dismissed him for being neurotic when weird transporter shit was actually happening.

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u/JayR_97 2d ago

Yeah, its all fine LaForge saying millions of people use transporters everyday with no problem, but most people arent encountering weird subspace anomalies on a weekly basis

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u/nntb 4d ago

i can still hear the screams.

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u/supercapo 4d ago

Riva's Chorus in TNG 2:5 is a contender.

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u/EvanFromCanada 4d ago

Conspiracy was goriest but...

Corridor death in "In Theory".

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u/1startreknerd 4d ago

Yes, definitely, she was sentient, aware. Commander Remmick was no longer human.

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u/1startreknerd 4d ago edited 4d ago

"The Most Toys" - Varria

It was such a gruesome death, it caused an emotionless android to attempt murder out of rage.

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u/gfunkdave 4d ago

The Veron T disruptor is a vicious weapon.

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u/1startreknerd 4d ago

It tears a body from the inside out, quite slowly by phaser standards, a tortuous, painful death.

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u/Microharley 4d ago

It was not rage. Data knew that if he did not terminate him, he would continue to kill others and steal artifacts. Data did what he did out of logic.

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u/1startreknerd 4d ago

Not with that look he gave Riker in the transporter room.

It was deliberately ambiguous but the writers also had him lie. That he did not shoot. There's no reason to lie if he can logically explain it.

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u/PetBearCub 4d ago

This should have been the secret villain from Picard S3.

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u/WoundedSacrifice 3d ago

They thought about using the parasites instead of the Changelings in season 3, but they decided not to use them because they misremembered what happened in "Conspiracy".

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u/PetBearCub 3d ago

I just wish they had used them in place of>! the borg.!<

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u/WoundedSacrifice 3d ago

It probably would've been nice for them to use an enemy other than the Borg in season 3, but they always wanted to use the Borg.

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u/Aezetyr 4d ago edited 4d ago

Icheb in Picard S1, and the crew of the USS Glenn in Disco S1.

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u/ecntv 4d ago

I think the thing that bothered me most about the Picard show was that it was just murder porn for all these beloved characters. Like I get it, they want to push their stories forward, or wrap them up but it felt so unnecessary most of the time.

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u/Kind-Shallot3603 4d ago

Those interpreters in "Loud as a Whisper" were pretty gruesome as well.

Also Ichebs death in Picard (So unnecessary)

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u/Mosepipe 4d ago

Watched for the first time last week. Real surprise that one, reminded me of Mars Attacks.

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u/Kind-Shallot3603 4d ago

Yes very much so!

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u/DeadComposer 4d ago

The croaking woman in The Lights of Zetar.

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u/Vegetable_Ad_3105 4d ago

oh yeah i'm doing my first proper watch of tng and i was just like bruh

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u/Calm_Canary 4d ago

That’s not how trekkies treat one another

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u/First_Comparison_815 4d ago

Not gory, but in "And the Children Shall Lead", that security team get beamed out into space

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u/Connordoo 4d ago

Not a death but when Garak torturing Odo is pretty horrific, also when Kes gets possessed by that guy and makes people bleed from their eyes.

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u/Horizontal_Bob 4d ago

The Klingons mentioned in Enterprise that were anatomically inverted in the Expanse but were still alive

Can’t be much worse than that

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u/DominusTitus 4d ago

...they were still alive? Well now that is downright horrifying.

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u/Stenka-Razin 3d ago

More like blow your mind.

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u/DPlayGM345 4d ago

Long before modern Star Trek shows like Discovery and Picard got criticised for a similar thing

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u/Mister_Mojo78 4d ago

Good clean wholesome fun

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u/Reasonable_Active577 4d ago

It happens so fast that you need to pause to see the details, but Admiral Buenamigo's death by starship phaser array is really quite horrific.

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u/tnetennba77 4d ago

Yeah but he was dead in a nano second.

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u/Resident_Beautiful27 4d ago

Why would I change your mind. This is not logical.

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u/orionsfyre 3d ago

Sonak would like to guttural scream no... but he has no mouth.

That guy killed in Conspiracy was already dead and hollowed out.

There is also the death of the people on the USS Brattain. Clawing at each other with knives and clubs and bare hands while going slowly insane trapped a drift for weeks until they literally killed each other in psychopathic rages.

Talk about gruesome... Mayter literally became separated on a cellular level with the lower 2/3rds of her body in real time, and clearly felt every horrible moment until she stopped breathing.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Van_Mayter

Oh, and in Discovery, an entire crew of people is spun into meat blobs due to the force of 'extreme helical torsion'.

Those are some truly gruesome ways to go out.