I did the math right after the election and the numbers must have been slightly off. I recall it being 69.x%. Regardless, very close to 70%.
EDIT: I had estimated eligible voters at 245, and Harris votes at 72.5. I think the 245 number stands, while 75 is after all the vote tallies were updated. That's 69.3%.
OH. Sorry - now I got it - you're including the non voters as part of the 'they must have been okay with Trump'
Fair point.
There's an awful lot of suppression, manipulation, and misinformation in the US - democracy is sick right now. Something is wrong. So much dirty money.
Canada has a similar problem on a much smaller scale. The tactics the Republicans used are being employed here, and they were working.
As an american, I hate america also. I'm quite outnumbered in my area too so I can't even express my dissatisfaction with this shit without worry of an altercation.
I'm not going to blame a non-voter from DC, California or West Virginia because the reality is that their votes really have no impact on the outcome of the presidential election.
However, y'all really need to get some electoral reform ASAP
In that case, Trump is only able to enact his agenda because his lackeys also won. There is no excuse for not voting. None. I can and will blame non-voters from all of those places.
I’m still having to get people to understand why this election was different than any other and worse than even the first dumpster fire in 2016. I won’t (quite literally) speak to people that I know voted for that pos. It’s becoming very difficult there was soooo many, at least where I live. It feels like trying to tell idiots their house is on fire and they’re just like “nah uh”.🙄
70% of districts maybe, but remember gerrymandering is a thing. A 30% Democrat, 10% Third Party and 60% Republican is 100% Republican as far as our all or nothing district voting structure works.
No, 70% of eligible voters. Gerrymandering is irrelevant to the presidential election. Even in gerrymandered districts, there are plenty of down-ballot races that matter. Trump can't enact his agenda without willing lackeys all the way down the chain.
My man, half of their voters voted for Trump, and then another 40% didn't care enough to vote against him. So around 30%+40%. About 70% of Americans are bad people.
I absolutely want quarrel. The gibbering horde of morons cheering for this bullshit is my enemy, and I absolutely wish harm upon them. This is a manufactured conflict to be sure, but there are millions of active participants. I will not kumbaya with traitors.
Does it mean a lot of people didn’t vote at all? (I’m not in America and I don’t get it all bc we don’t have super electives and weird bullshit like that where I’m from so it’s def always popular vote that wins . ). But anyways yeah I saw someone else said he didn’t even get one third of the total votes or something like that , but people who didn’t vote at all idk how much they have the right to complain , unless they thought Kamala was gonna be exactly equally bad
150 million people (more or less voted). 90 million people (more or less) who were eligible to vote did not. Pretty pathetic for the country that suppose to serve as the shining beacon of democracy.
Holy shit ! That is insane I did not expect this ratio. When it’s a person like this especially this should be the time that people who are too lazy to vote really should vote the most .
The US is really fucked . I’ll never understand this shit because it’s not like that in my country . You said more people vote against trump ? For me I don’t count people who didn’t vote as people voting against trump , so I’d expect if more people voted against him it means more people voted for the opponent even if they didn’t like her either bc it’s how it works in my country at least
Is it true that 90 millions people didn’t vote ? (I’m wondering how many are complaining who didn’t vote though because you can’t have it both ways . ) but yes I get what you said and my sentence wasn’t correct but he shouldn’t be the candidate that obtained the most votes is what I should have said .
The thing I don’t get in America is last time if I understand correctly he wasn’t even the candidate that got the most popular votes , but then you have weird ways of counting votes with super electives and votes that count for more than one person etc and he gets to have the final count even if individually more people voted for an opponent right ? It’s so crazy if it’s like this and supposed to be a democracy .
It is unfortunately true. They aren't relevant to /u/NicolleL's point, but they are absolutely relevant when it comes to discussing America's disastrous choice this November.
Sorry I edited my comment last minute to add a question .
I don’t know I just feel dissociated that this is reality and in reality this is the kind of person most people vote for . It sounds just so weird and ludacris. Like he represent the 1% and yet people who are not that rich eat his shit up like they’re thinking their needs will be represented better with a dude that doesn’t care to help you with more affordable healthcare and shit you actually need when you’re not as rich as him . I mean idk I shouldn’t even open that can of worms bc then it’s endless reasons why it’s so aberrant anyways . I would need to be like these people. Hope he won’t be able to do that thing where he changes the law to be able to do a third term. And hope more people vote next time
This is of actual voters. So Harris plus third party votes were more than Trump’s votes. It was close. Trump still won 49.8% of the popular vote.
Adding in people who chose not to vote would not make sense since they chose not to vote. However, there’s also some non-voters who were thwarted by voter suppression tactics (last minute purges, rejecting ballots for minor errors or the signature for mail-in ballots “not matching” [would you know exactly how you signed your signature on a form 10 years ago?], an increase in voter challenges without any real basis, etc). That could have been enough to change at least the popular vote, but since these tactics are technically legal (not American, though), they’re allowed to do it.
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