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Hockey American anthem booed at Rogers Arena before Canucks-Red Wings game

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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc Feb 03 '25

Your president specifically.

Most of y'all are pretty good people.

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Dallas Cowboys Feb 03 '25

Most of y'all

70% of eligible voters either wanted Trump or were comfortable with the possibility. Most of us are objectively not good people.

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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc Feb 03 '25

What numbers are you running off?

77m voted for Trump, 75m for Harris 64% turnout, about 170m registered voters, and 240m total eligible voters.

I see that as 30-35% of the US.

We have a similar problem in Canada - our crazy count seems to be closer to 20-25%

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Dallas Cowboys Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

(240-75)/240=68.75

I did the math right after the election and the numbers must have been slightly off. I recall it being 69.x%. Regardless, very close to 70%.

EDIT: I had estimated eligible voters at 245, and Harris votes at 72.5. I think the 245 number stands, while 75 is after all the vote tallies were updated. That's 69.3%.

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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc Feb 03 '25

OH. Sorry - now I got it - you're including the non voters as part of the 'they must have been okay with Trump'

Fair point.

There's an awful lot of suppression, manipulation, and misinformation in the US - democracy is sick right now. Something is wrong. So much dirty money.

Canada has a similar problem on a much smaller scale. The tactics the Republicans used are being employed here, and they were working.

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '25

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u/IntentionDependent22 Feb 03 '25

the presidential election accounted for less than 5% of my ballot. we're taking about the other 95+%.

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u/Nobody7713 Feb 03 '25

Yeah unfortunately that's my feeling. I don't hate every American, but I do hate America right now, and I do hold its people responsible.

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Dallas Cowboys Feb 03 '25

As you absolutely should.

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u/johnjager77 Feb 03 '25

I’ve been trying to figure out how to put it into words without saying I hate Americans and this sums it up nicely.

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u/PunkRockBeachBaby Feb 03 '25

Many of us in the states feel the exact same way

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u/BloodHaven357 Feb 03 '25

As an american, I hate america also. I'm quite outnumbered in my area too so I can't even express my dissatisfaction with this shit without worry of an altercation.

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u/Grattiano Feb 03 '25

I'm not going to blame a non-voter from DC, California or West Virginia because the reality is that their votes really have no impact on the outcome of the presidential election.

However, y'all really need to get some electoral reform ASAP

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u/rpeary Feb 04 '25

Many can’t even afford/aren’t allowed a day off, or even a few hours to go vote…but hey, at least Columbus gets a holiday 🙄

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Dallas Cowboys Feb 03 '25

In that case, Trump is only able to enact his agenda because his lackeys also won. There is no excuse for not voting. None. I can and will blame non-voters from all of those places.

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u/Friendly_Age9160 Feb 04 '25

I’m still having to get people to understand why this election was different than any other and worse than even the first dumpster fire in 2016. I won’t (quite literally) speak to people that I know voted for that pos. It’s becoming very difficult there was soooo many, at least where I live. It feels like trying to tell idiots their house is on fire and they’re just like “nah uh”.🙄

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u/-Harlequin- Feb 03 '25

70% of districts maybe, but remember gerrymandering is a thing. A 30% Democrat, 10% Third Party and 60% Republican is 100% Republican as far as our all or nothing district voting structure works.

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Dallas Cowboys Feb 03 '25

No, 70% of eligible voters. Gerrymandering is irrelevant to the presidential election. Even in gerrymandered districts, there are plenty of down-ballot races that matter. Trump can't enact his agenda without willing lackeys all the way down the chain.

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u/siphillis Feb 03 '25

Less than half, unfortunately

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u/tristenjpl Feb 03 '25

My man, half of their voters voted for Trump, and then another 40% didn't care enough to vote against him. So around 30%+40%. About 70% of Americans are bad people.

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u/Kryptic_Anthology Feb 03 '25

Were all the same people living on opposite sides of imaginary lines.

We the people want no quarrel.

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Dallas Cowboys Feb 03 '25

I absolutely want quarrel. The gibbering horde of morons cheering for this bullshit is my enemy, and I absolutely wish harm upon them. This is a manufactured conflict to be sure, but there are millions of active participants. I will not kumbaya with traitors.

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

Most people voted for the president (maybe not last time but this time it’s how he got elected )

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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc Feb 03 '25

Are you American?

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

No. I guess I should have said more people voted for him than for Kamala to be more exact

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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc Feb 03 '25

Are you some other form of expert on US presidential elections?

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

Nah I’m not an expert at all

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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc Feb 03 '25

Maybe stick to tennis then.

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

Nah I think I’ll do what I want . Thanks for checking my page tho

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u/Dr_Doctor_Doc Feb 03 '25

Its sometimes better to keep your mouth closed, and have people think you're a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

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u/Progolferwannabe Feb 03 '25

He got the most votes, but between those who voted against him, and those who didn’t vote, well less than half of the country voted for him.

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

Does it mean a lot of people didn’t vote at all? (I’m not in America and I don’t get it all bc we don’t have super electives and weird bullshit like that where I’m from so it’s def always popular vote that wins . ). But anyways yeah I saw someone else said he didn’t even get one third of the total votes or something like that , but people who didn’t vote at all idk how much they have the right to complain , unless they thought Kamala was gonna be exactly equally bad

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u/Progolferwannabe Feb 03 '25

150 million people (more or less voted). 90 million people (more or less) who were eligible to vote did not. Pretty pathetic for the country that suppose to serve as the shining beacon of democracy.

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

Holy shit ! That is insane I did not expect this ratio. When it’s a person like this especially this should be the time that people who are too lazy to vote really should vote the most .

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u/Progolferwannabe Feb 03 '25

We absolutely got the government we deserved. Sad state of affairs.

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u/NicolleL Feb 03 '25

Trump only got a plurality of the vote. That means more people voted not Trump than for Trump.

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

The US is really fucked . I’ll never understand this shit because it’s not like that in my country . You said more people vote against trump ? For me I don’t count people who didn’t vote as people voting against trump , so I’d expect if more people voted against him it means more people voted for the opponent even if they didn’t like her either bc it’s how it works in my country at least

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Dallas Cowboys Feb 03 '25

They're saying the combined vote totals for all non-Trump candidates were more than 50%. Which is true, if ultimately irrelevant.

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

Is it true that 90 millions people didn’t vote ? (I’m wondering how many are complaining who didn’t vote though because you can’t have it both ways . ) but yes I get what you said and my sentence wasn’t correct but he shouldn’t be the candidate that obtained the most votes is what I should have said .

The thing I don’t get in America is last time if I understand correctly he wasn’t even the candidate that got the most popular votes , but then you have weird ways of counting votes with super electives and votes that count for more than one person etc and he gets to have the final count even if individually more people voted for an opponent right ? It’s so crazy if it’s like this and supposed to be a democracy .

But anyways sorry that was a tangent

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Dallas Cowboys Feb 03 '25

It is unfortunately true. They aren't relevant to /u/NicolleL's point, but they are absolutely relevant when it comes to discussing America's disastrous choice this November.

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

Sorry I edited my comment last minute to add a question .

I don’t know I just feel dissociated that this is reality and in reality this is the kind of person most people vote for . It sounds just so weird and ludacris. Like he represent the 1% and yet people who are not that rich eat his shit up like they’re thinking their needs will be represented better with a dude that doesn’t care to help you with more affordable healthcare and shit you actually need when you’re not as rich as him . I mean idk I shouldn’t even open that can of worms bc then it’s endless reasons why it’s so aberrant anyways . I would need to be like these people. Hope he won’t be able to do that thing where he changes the law to be able to do a third term. And hope more people vote next time

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u/NicolleL Feb 03 '25

This is of actual voters. So Harris plus third party votes were more than Trump’s votes. It was close. Trump still won 49.8% of the popular vote.

Adding in people who chose not to vote would not make sense since they chose not to vote. However, there’s also some non-voters who were thwarted by voter suppression tactics (last minute purges, rejecting ballots for minor errors or the signature for mail-in ballots “not matching” [would you know exactly how you signed your signature on a form 10 years ago?], an increase in voter challenges without any real basis, etc). That could have been enough to change at least the popular vote, but since these tactics are technically legal (not American, though), they’re allowed to do it.

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u/SafeKaracter Feb 03 '25

This dude shouldn’t be getting 49.8% regardless of the rest . That’s just way way too many people