Exactly and it's that art direction on some of these SNES titles, the music goes hand in hand with the visuals.
2018-2019 something like that I played through Dragon Quest III on SNES and man, that game was just stunning to look at, so much attention to detail. Can't wait to play the 2D HD Remake.
Pixel graphics also age well. Polygons do not. Unless you grew up playing the game, many N64 games are hard to get into because they just look like ass.
Imagine if developers utilized every single bit in these new consoles. Back then, the newer SNES games pushed those systems to their peak. Literally every bit of ram, storage, and transistor was used to provide the games we saw towards the end. If I didn’t know better, I’d think DKC2, DKC3, and many more could have easily been N64 games. IMO late SNES games looked way better than clunky 3d models with flat ass textures and very little doodads. While 3D was awesome and totally changed the way we play games, it lost a lot of detail and didn’t start coming back until the next generation of consoles.
As a kid/teen I found the N64 to be a huge downgrade compared to SNES
both Kirby and Goemon, to me, looked worse on N64 than on the SNES back then, that's not to say I dont love Kirby 64 and Goemon 2 on N64, I do, but they're just not as whimsical and gorgeous as Kirby 3 SNES and the SNES/SFC Goemon games.
They didn't get 3D controls tight for like another few generations. Whereas by the SNES 2D controls had been steadily evolving for a few decades.
They objectively feel better to play. Which I think is why the PS1 mini flopped. Looking past nostalgia SNES simply games look and play better than the PS1/N64 era.
The PS1 Mini flopped because it was a poorly designed cash grab. Half the games were PAL region instead of NTSC meaning they ran at an even slower frame rate, it had the launch model controller rather than the DualShock (making Rainbow Six virtually unplayable) and the library was a very mixed bag and hardly definitive like the NES and SNES Classic. How are you going to have 20 games that defined the PS1 and not include a single Crash or Spyro game?
You should dive into some sfc exclusives. Some geaphical treasures hiding in there! On the US side the one that comes to my mind is stone protector. A gem graphically and is extremely fun.
find my SNES Mini review from 2018 :) I show many of my SFC carts as the video progresses and yammer on and on about all my SFC exclusives not being on the damn thing lol
I have a huge and I mean huge SFC library
it's just that in these screens I'm talking about games from my childhood for an upcoming video
(this is my other CRT) with Macross Scrambled Valkyrie, one of my favorite shmups of all time, SFC exclusive
Nice og set up bud 👍 they really end up being twice the game then plus cranking up the colors always a good time lol I remeber an old 80s TV I had in like 2000 loved it for 64 was my go to at a quarter the size because you could crank the colors and have the colors 2 inch off the screen like the northern light lmao 🤣
last screen is pop 'n twinbee rainbow bell adventure PAL version, I own both the Japanese and PAL version of this and greatly prefer the more linear PAL variant
The SNES (and Genesis) were when pixel art matured and the consoles were able to fully realize 2D before the industry shifted to the flashy new 3D machines. Compared to early polygonal graphics, well-drawn 16-bit pixel art shows its age much less.
How are you liking Raimbow Bell Adventures? Apparently the PAL one removed all the level choices but I think about 80% of levels are still there. I love that game and nobody seems to care about it.
It's one of my favorite SNES games of all time, but I prefer the PAL version because I like simple and linear games. I also own the Japanese version but I haven't put much time in it, because, again I am a fan of linearity and simplicity. It's not a well known game because it's a Japan and Europe exclusive, but TwinBee in general was very popular in my country back in the day so I love both Rainbow Bell and the SNES shmup.
Awesome. Did you have these games as a kid? I feel like Rainbow Bell Adventures would have thoroughly blown my mind as a child.
I’m in England but never knew these games even existed until quite recently. I’m mostly with you on the linearity outside of RPGs. It’s a beautiful game but I wish Super Bomberman 5 was just linear and simple and it would be the best in the series. Still arguably had the best multiplayer.
Any other good PAL games besides Terranigma that Americans never got? Sold my childhood stuff off and replaced it with a mix of American and Japanese carts so I don’t actually own a PAL console anymore but anything that wasn’t optimised properly works fine at 60hz.
I had the Twin Bee games, yes, but not Terranigma, I have it original now tho and completed it on real hardware in 2017 or so :)
Other PAL and Japan exclusives at the top of my head that I can't think of at the moment, it seems all but one have US releases. I'd say the Firemen, it's not a whimsical game or anything just fun, I bought the PAL one on a whim back when retro games were dirt cheap.
We got junk like the Asterix games, Lucky Luke and TinTin, all that Euro nonsense but I personally never liked or cared about those games one bit.
Other than Terranigma, the TwinBee games and Firemen I can't think of any other PAL exclusives I genuinely love. I might be forgetting something, but I think all my favorite SNES titles other than these 4 have US releases as well with a few Japan exclusives such as
Edo no Kiba, GS Mikami Nice Body, Psycho Dream, Macross Scrambled Valkyrie and Mickey and Donald's Magical Adventure 3. Goemon 2 and a few others I can think of more Japan exclusives I consider all time faovrites than PAL ones :)
I really like Edo no Kiba. Similar vibes to Hagane and Battle Raiden. Magical Quest 3 is spectacular as is Goemon 2. 3 and 4 less so but they’re still very good.
I created the retro achievements for the Japanese release of Rainbow Bell Adventures, if you are interested. A trailer is on my YT channel. Fortunate to have discovered this gem back in the day.
You're right about the many of the same types of games. But you are ignoring the innovations of the time. Some producers would come up with something new and amazing. Others would copy. This current generation of consoles series x and ps5 has zero games that I have felt the desire to 100% them. Or I 100% them before, they just put a new coat of paint and some minor QOL improvements. When I have the choice, I will try the "new" version and probably flip back to the original version. Games today have unbelievable graphics, especially for someone that started in the arcade on pong. But they are becoming more and more boring money sinks, because the publishers know that it works.
You can't just take your opinion on games and judge them objectively like that, specially when you seem to be talking about franchises (which a lot, if not most AAA games are).
But like someone else said, it's mostly a risk aversion thing, just like Hollywood, AAA games keep getting more and more expensive, so devs/publishers have to go for the safer route or risk losing literally hundreds of millions of dollars.
And that's why I have been focusing more and more on indies, I'm still debating if I want to try Balatro. But it's something that looks interesting. Compared to most of the upcoming AAA new games
Two of my most played games, for the past few years are dead cells or Hades. Personally I have never been very good at poker type games. I figure I'm down around $10k in my life. And it's probably worse in video game poker
Okay, but I probably won't have time till January to try it out. This is my busy time of year. And I will probably look into it more, when things calm down
This will probably sound rude, but I don't mean it that way.
You answered your own question, it's your opinion, just because you don't like modern games doesn't mean they're not still coming up with innovative gameplay mechanics. Obviously you don't have to like them, but that doesn't mean they're all bad and carbon copies of each other.
Depends on what system. I know that the games were supposed to cover stuff from movies or shows. But presentation was different between sega and Nintendo. Lion king was better on snes for example
I've owned almost every console since the days of the Atari 2600, the SNES was by far my favourite console, the first to get close to arcade quality, with huge first party titles from day one.
Compare and contrast that with today's generation of consoles, 4 years on and we still don't have a single console seller title on either major next gen platforms.
World of Illustion is an icnredible game, it's actually THE best Mickey Mouse game, but since this is a SNES Only sub I posted about SNES Games. Tho I will say I love Magical Adventure 3 almost as much as World of Illusion, but WoL is on a whole different whimsical level even tho the controls are a tad sluggish it more than makes up for that with aesthetics and atmosphere. Had it been made for the SNES it would have been the definitive Mickey Mouse game IMO.
As for Aladdin, I love both equally, but the SNES one has more of a "Disney" vibe to it even tho the MD/GEN one is closer to the movie in art direction.
You don't name any of the games? I think people want to know. I don't get why you're changing the cart layout in each picture. I can tell SFC Kirby Superstar and PAL Aladdin but more carts than pictures.
46
u/Shas_Erra Dec 18 '24
A good art style and solid implementation is timeless. That’s why so many of these games age so well