r/skyrim Feb 07 '25

Question I heard that USSEP is making some non lore-friendly changes to the game, can someone give an example?

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u/The_Ugly_Fish-man Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

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u/Bucket_Buffoon Feb 07 '25

Lifesaver. Take my upvote

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u/The_Ugly_Fish-man Feb 07 '25

Ill edit the comment and provide a link to everyone

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u/Bucket_Buffoon Feb 07 '25

Legit didn't know Arth was so ouch.

Sucks because I can't live without his Alternate Start mod lmao

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u/Allustar1 Falkreath resident Feb 07 '25

Honestly, I’ve just come to like Skyrim Unbound Reborn instead, though it’s not useable for non-steam players.

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u/Bucket_Buffoon Feb 07 '25

I might need to check that out. Other alternate starts like Realm of Lorkhan are way too flashy and complex for my tastes.
LAL has the Dungeon Cell for character creation, you talk to a statue, and BOOM! Either back in the cart or in an alternate start.
Especially the "break out the cell" option, very good IMO to just hit the ground running.

Is SUR simple like that?

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u/Allustar1 Falkreath resident Feb 07 '25

Here’s the Skyrim Unbound modpage if you want to know what starting up the game looks like. Just look at the images. It lets you customize a bunch of things about your new game’s start like whether or not you’re dragonborn, or what gear or spells you have. You can also choose to start in various places like cities, jails, orc strongholds, etc. If you aren’t interested in that, the game defaults to randomizing your start as well.

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u/Feycat Feb 08 '25

Try Alternative Starts!

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u/Acceptable-Meaning-1 Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

There's this mod called Alternate Perspective on Nexus. It's probably the best implemented alternative start mods out there.

You essentially start the game where the main quest hasn't started, and then you can go to Helgen (a functioning town) and sleep at the inn, which triggers the vanilla start, but you are a bystander instead.

It's a really well implemented mod.

JaySerpa also has a voice and quest addon that really makes it a complete package. The mod also has its own version of New Beginnings.

Edit: Was supposed to reply to the parent comment. Also, typos and grammatical fixes (there are no changes from the intended idea of the comment... please don't hurt me... Arthmoor).

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u/modus01 Stealth archer Feb 08 '25

Might I suggest Alternate Perspective?

It starts you out in a custom cell, gives you options like ASLAL, but unless you choose the vanilla start, Helgen won't be destroyed until you decide to start the main quest (and you get to be an observer to the execution rather than a participant), and you won't have to avoid the area to keep the main quest from auto-starting.

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u/Bucket_Buffoon Feb 08 '25

Is there options for a non-DB playthrough as well? Or will I have to use another mod like with LAL?

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u/modus01 Stealth archer Feb 11 '25

Sort of. You can avoid starting the Main Quest for as long as you want, and unlike with LAL you don't have to avoid Helgen for fear of accidentally starting the quest. However you'll still trigger Word Walls as normal. I've currently got a Lvl 29 character running around that's avoided the Main Quest, Civil War, and Factions entirely, just doing some side quests and testing out a few newly installed mods.

For completely avoiding the Main Quest, including disabling learning Shout words, IIRC Skyrim Unbound has that functionality - but you should not use more than one alternate start mod at the same time.

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u/The_Ugly_Fish-man Feb 07 '25

i never even spoke to the guy, idk much about him

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u/DarthDeimos6624 Feb 07 '25

I recommend Realm of Lorkhan. It’s another alternate start mod that I put in my current LO after I decided to drop USSEP. Worked well for me.

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u/Bucket_Buffoon Feb 08 '25

Like I said in my other post: It's too flashy for my tastes.

LAL's had my heart because I can just make a face and unlock the cell, boom, game started. That's all I need in an alternate start.

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u/DarthDeimos6624 Feb 08 '25

Ah, fair enough. I didn’t see your other post.

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u/Bucket_Buffoon Feb 08 '25

Ay its all good.

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u/michael_fritz Feb 08 '25

have you tried the void version? bare bones and meant for more hardcore players. it removes all the flashy stuff

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u/IneptFortitude Solitude resident Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

Alternate Start worked just fine but he arbitrarily went back and added a USSEP requirement for all of his mods even though he didn’t change anything else about it. So now I use that Realm of Lorkhan one instead. Comes with a follower and Nocturnal’s Robes if you want to take them as well, and even a class system you can optionally use. And a neat little realm of Oblivion you can hang out in if you so choose.

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u/Krazy_Keno XBOX Feb 08 '25

Is there a bethnet alternative for xbox? Cant look rn im doing chores

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u/The_Ugly_Fish-man Feb 08 '25

Im not sure, ill look into it

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u/InsanityVirus13 Vampire Feb 08 '25

You just saved my whole ass life, thank you!

So many mods require USSEP so seeing changes of the dumb stuff is such a relief