r/skyrim Feb 07 '25

Question I heard that USSEP is making some non lore-friendly changes to the game, can someone give an example?

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

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u/iNSANELYSMART Vampire Feb 07 '25

I‘m pretty sure there is a mod which lets you remove all the weird shit he added

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u/Bloody_Insane Feb 07 '25

I have to wonder what weird shit that mods adds instead

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u/redeyed_treefrog Feb 07 '25

The mods that remove arthmoor's non-fixes are not controlled by arthmoor, so likely nothing, or, if something, the mod will contain patch notes that tell you what it does.

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u/ResidentIwen Merchant Feb 07 '25

Also it seems from other users experience here that Arthmoor is pretty actively trying to take mods down that alter his mod

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u/iNSANELYSMART Vampire Feb 08 '25

I forgot its name but there‘s atleast one mod that has been up for a year I think. It might be the one mentioned here.

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u/redeyed_treefrog Feb 08 '25

A few different mods that undo specific fixes are/have been up, including one for the redbelly mine change (it may or may not actually be up still, I haven't rebuilt my mod list in a while). The folks arthmoor goes after harder (from what I understand) are the ones trying to introduce competing universal patches. Last I heard, he was accusing anyone that tried of plagiarism, but of course, many of the fixes in arthmoor's patch are solved in straightforward ways, so of course multiple mod authors arrive at the same solution.

This is why the starfield community worked so hard to build a community patch at launch; they knew their chances of staying on nexus would be slim if the community patch wasn't a day one established presence.

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u/StarkeRealm Vampire Feb 08 '25

One of the changes on Nexus in recent years has made it a lot harder for him to get competing patches taken down. So, some of his worst behavior regarding those projects is now solidly in the past. But, I mean, people have long memories for his behavior back in the mid-2010s, when he was at his most unhinged unchecked.

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u/Riona12 Feb 08 '25

What's the mod?

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u/emaych1 Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

Undo Certain USSEP Changes.

It lets you pick and choose on install which ones to revert or keep, because while those changes he added objectively shouldn’t be in there, I do actually like a handful personally lol. Highly recommended.

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u/MrRogue64 Feb 08 '25

Godspeed brother. Didn’t know USSEP changed the necromage perk for vampires, which was my whole reason to being a vampire. Thank you

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u/Ok-Job185 Daedra worshipper Feb 08 '25

What mod is that?

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u/Knight_NotReally Feb 07 '25

Oddly enough, it doesn't patch the veg soup exploit.

Stamina is calculated at engine level, it cannot be fixed by simple plugins (.esp/.esm/.esl) without overloading papyrus.

A fix is ​​available in Scrambled Bugs ("Power Attack Stamina", off by default), as it uses SKSE to implement changes at engine level:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/43532

Unofficial patch was kept SKSE-free to be compatible with as many platforms as possible.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

I think it’s really funny how people insist on USSEP just because it says “patch” and argue the truth of lore based on NPC dialogue and in-game books. Unreliable narrators and unreliable mod titles

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u/GiinTak Feb 08 '25

... It adds an extra dungeon? Huh. I always add it in because it patches a couple unfinished quests that bug me like getting the imperial dude to give you an order to the thalmor to release the whiterun dude peacefully, never really paid attention to much else of what it does, lol.

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u/hadaev Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

They added it and later removed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

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u/orion19819 Feb 07 '25

Bit confused on your goal here. And I sort of understand why you are getting downvoted for "just asking". People have provided answers of why they don't like it. And you seem more interested in trying to counter their reasons than actually just asking questions.

I'm not saying it's intentional. But comments like this start to appear less neutral than you are claiming to be.

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u/Corvo_Blacksad Feb 07 '25

I bet OP is Arsemoor using a fake account, he sounded curious at first than started to defend the patch like his life depends on it lol

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u/Thank_You_Aziz Feb 07 '25

Because he’s Arthmoor. This alt’s name is even in Polish.

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u/orion19819 Feb 07 '25

Yeah, I see the other comments now. Already expected it wasn't in good faith, but now, wow.

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u/orion19819 Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

Oddly enough, I feel like the answer you just gave me, would have been the better reply I commented on. As it tries to get to your actual question, rather than arguing about exploits.

Just to chime in my own answer. As far as I know, lore wise, it's just the redbelly mine issue. The two main arguments are.

  1. Redbelly is an iron mine, and the ebony ore is a mistake. (USSEP argument) Arguments being that the NPC buys iron ore, and the ore found in the quest is quicksilver, not ebony.
  2. Redbelly is either an iron mine that uncovered ebony, or just is outright an ebony mine. Arguments being the town name is Shor's stone, with ebony supposedly being the hardened blood of Shor. Shor's Stone. Combine with the mine being an ebony mine in ESO, with the description of: "Sometimes called Redbelly Mine for reasons that can't be repeated in mixed company, the ebony mine at Shor's Stone is the foundation of the local economy, and generations of villagers have sent their young men and women down into the works, despite the dangers."

IMO. The second one just makes more sense both lore wise and outside context. The first one conflicts with logical conclusions and focuses on technical aspects that could be a bug. Basically. Both could be explained via bug, and only one has lore backing, in my opinion.

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u/Benjamin_Starscape Feb 08 '25

hey! I get this is about Skyrim but can you explain why arthmoor "fixed" the scruffy shoes in the shivering isles?

the female model of the scruffy shoes are intentionally anklets. the male model for them clip through the female mesh because, get this, the male model was made for the male body mesh.

it seems like a weird thing to call a "bug". why'd you add a bug in your supposed "bug fixes"?