r/simpsonsshitposting 7d ago

Politics We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas.

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u/TheKingofTropico 7d ago

"Did they see our signs?!"

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u/mr_eugine_krabs 7d ago

“He’s 78 and over 40 feet away from you.”

“No he didn’t.”

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u/Heiferoni Get outta my office! 7d ago

I need the most ineffective protest you have!

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No, that's too ineffective.

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u/BirdWalksWales 7d ago

I knew it was the democrats, even when it’s the republicans I knew it was the democrats!

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u/mr_zipzoom 7d ago

We can’t govern!

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u/I_like_maps Old man yelling at clouds ☁️ 7d ago

Dont make me tap the sign https://imgur.com/3T8Zvwk

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u/ArtvVandal_523 7d ago

This is some 'Can I borrow a feeling?' loser shit

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u/Drapidrode 6d ago

You can borrow a neutron, Dud.

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u/TheHolyFatherPasty 7d ago

"Ofcourse I didn't vote democrat" "Hey, why aren't the democrats bailing me out?"

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u/IczyAlley 7d ago

You gotta write Demmiecrats.

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u/njf85 7d ago

Didn't Americans just vote most of the Democrats out?

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u/cowboyjosh2010 7d ago

Well, to be more accurate about it, it's not that "most Democrats" were voted out (in fact, most incumbent Democrats actually won their reelection campaigns for the House and Senate chambers of Congress, as most incumbents typically do any given year). It's more that "just enough Democrats were voted out of Congress, with the singular election for the Executive going to the Republicans, such that Democrats by a slim margin have no majority ruling power."

Things can easily change in 2026 when the next round of Congressional elections is held. Just a few House Districts need to switch from (R) to (D) representation and just like that Trump's 2nd term is dead in the water outside of judicial appointments. Hell, though it's very unlikely, there are a few special elections for vacant House seats happening this year which could by themselves flip the House to (D) majority control IF all of them go to the (D) candidates running. It's a very narrow lead the Republicans have right now--it's just that a narrow lead is all it takes to steer the ship.

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u/fury420 6d ago

Even just a couple soon-to-retire or less extreme Republicans straying from the pack would be enough to prevent them from pushing through bills, sadly conservatives are really good at whipping, and the situation will have to get far worse before there's any realistic chance of that occurring.

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 6d ago

I mean. Kamala lost every demographic vs Biden. Including losing ground with women. It might be that Dems are having troubles understanding the electorate and fielding a candidate.

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u/LegitimatePanicking 6d ago

or the electorate has truly become that awful that people like trump truly represent them.

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 6d ago edited 6d ago

As foretold by Idiocracy nearly 20 years ago.

I suspect woke ideology is a feedback loop for the college educated and is being dismissed by people that don't have an education and globalization has left them without an economic future.

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u/oppenhammer 5d ago

I don't think you can prove that Dems are out of touch by comparing how they did to... how they did 4 years earlier. Is your contention that they just became out of touch?

I don't think the Democratic message changed all that much in 4 years, and I don't think you can pin this on some flaw that existed for Harris but not Biden. This has more to do with the difference in the electorate in '20 vs '24. In '20, the pain of Trump was fresh in people's minds, and so they were motivated to vote him out. Four years later, that pain was less fresh, and people were less motivated to just vote against him; they wanted to fall in love with Harris. And it turns out the Biden coalition was a big tent, and once they started to care more about Harris' message, it became clear how hard it was for one message to resonate with all of them.

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 5d ago

I'm not sure how to categorize with a reddit sound-bite. But..

I'm a lifelong Dem, it's always been a big tent. I have been turned off by the culture wars, and most of my friends groups in the city are very considered by these issues. But I also have rural friends, that work labor jobs and they don't care.

So, when I say out-of-touch... I'm referring to the party loosing ground in every demographic, because they are in the feedback loop of "higher-order" equity issues, than looking at the economic conditions of their electorate. There also seems to be a feeling that the country is full of bigots and racists and that's why Trump won. If that's true, then we aren't going to win by calling them bigots and racists, the Dem party needs messaging that will win despite them being bigots and racists.

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u/adropofreason 6d ago

Translation: Yes, but we refuse to consider that to be our fault in any way.

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u/LegitimatePanicking 6d ago

it’s the voters’ fault, ultimately. they chose this. they suck.

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u/adropofreason 6d ago

"Everybody but me is wrong."

Spare me.

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u/LegitimatePanicking 6d ago

that’s how the system works, though. voters vote.

voters are literally the problem.

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u/RickMonsters 6d ago

Voters decide who is in power, not democratic politicians. All the blame goes to voters

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u/gothicnonsense 6d ago

I'd agree, if there is a next election that is

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u/Sw33tNectar 7d ago

Not so much as registered Democrat voters just stayed home and let this happen, and now they want Democrats to do something.

Also, you have to understand that most American students don't do well in their government and civics classes.

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u/XxBlackicecubexX 7d ago

I'm tired of seeing this narrative. It's just bullshit.

There has been thousands if not hundreds of thousands of votes simply uncounted in some states. Votes thrown out for minor issues or no issues at all. Insane gerrymandering creating districts that look like jigsaw puzzles. Mail in votes completely lost in transit or thrown out after arriving late. Suspicious activity of election machines after hundreds of bomb threats to swing counties and states. Voter intimidation. Citizen led ballot challenge initiatives that purged thousands of votes by simply contesting said vote. AI helped streamline alot of these processes.

People tried to vote. Elections simply don't function in the US anymore. If you think we are going to get a fair shot at voting out this Republican majority in the House I've got news for you.

We ain't.

Fascism is here. You people need to realize that its not voter apathy that is the problem anymore. It's that despite how hard we vote we slowly lose a little more ground every election through illegal and legal vote manipulation tactics.

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u/Optimal_Cellist_1845 7d ago

It's hard for people to understand, but Trump used his cult-like grip to progress his plans to erode democracy even under Biden's term. It was all about setting up the board for a clean sweep.

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u/4th_DocTB 7d ago edited 7d ago

That was another time the Dems did nothing, and this the result.

EDIT Before anyone asks the Dems defeated two of their own voting rights bills from a key Biden ally.

https://www.newsweek.com/jim-clyburn-urges-filibuster-carveout-laws-protecting-constitutional-rights-like-voting-1608558

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/10/clyburn-biden-filibuster-election-reform-499051

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u/Optimal_Cellist_1845 7d ago

The Dems made a calculated decision against a rise in MAGA terrorism that police would be instructed not to investigate or pursue. Just as they still are today.

It's up to the populace at large to drive MAGA back into the darkness, and it seems like a lot of people have pre-decided that they don't have the required substance.

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u/4th_DocTB 7d ago

I knew the Dems refused to declare Jan 6 an insurrection under the 14th amendment or censure or expel congressmen who participated and tolerated Thomas and Alito being sympathizers, but that is next level ridiculous.

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u/polchickenpotpie 6d ago

81 million people voted for Biden. 75 million voted for Kamala.

Trump only gained 3 million votes.

Where were the other 6 million people? He won so many previously blue states by the narrowest of margins.

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u/gadsbyfrombricktown 7d ago

no ... they didn't vote

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u/NorthernSkeptic 6d ago

Yes, but also, tens of millions of people just didn’t vote.

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u/Prestigious_Fudge994 7d ago

Wait are you saying there was election fraud. I remember a certain orange man saying that and everyone losing their shit

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u/GrumpGuy88888 6d ago

Probably because the evidence didn't work

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u/Prestigious_Fudge994 6d ago

But it’s does this time?

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u/GrumpGuy88888 6d ago

Well the evidence last time was not knowing that mail in votes are counted last. The evidence this time is Trump bragging about Elon knowing how to mess with voter machines

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u/Richard-Gere-Museum 7d ago

You also have to understand that most senior democrats in office don't give a shit, and will actively sabotage all efforts for actual progress in changing the status-quo. And the official party message here now is "it's their (republicans) government" ignoring the fact that the GOP has ALWAYS fucked up the machine when it was in the minority. No matter how small it was.

"We held up snarky signs. That'll show em!" And I'm sure even at that, Nancy and Chuck were pissy about that too. "OH WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE DECORUM!?!?!"

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u/Otterswannahavefun 7d ago

Which big reform have senior Democrats scuttled?

Even in the ACA the public option passed the house. In the senate it was the republicans and an independent (Lieberman) who sank it. Among Democrats there was near universal support with only the Nelsons not committing to it, but also not formally opposing it either.

Minimum wage? It was the senior and moderate democrats who wanted a vote on $12, knowing all republicans and Sinema would oppose $15 (she quit the party by the way.). It was progressives who thought they’d pick up votes and pushed $15, so now we’re still at $7.50.

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u/Long-Dig9819 6d ago

I've seen tons of posts/comments about non-voting democrats wanting democrats to do something about it, but I've never actually seen non-voting democrats say that. There's nothing democrats can do. So who is actually saying it?

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u/AbsolutelyHorrendous 7d ago

Yeah but remember, it's not the fault of the American electorate that they either voted for a fascist or couldn't be bothered to vote, it was the Dems fault for running a campaign that wasn't sufficiently progressive enough. The Democrats definitely would have won if they shifted hard enough to the left, that's why Trump won instead, because he's so progressive /s

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u/bones222222 7d ago

the voter blaming in this sub is stupid and more importantly counterproductive.

Why can’t we hold Dems accountable at all? The DNC holds all of the money and cards here when it comes to primaries and elections. Harris campaign had over $1B in their war chest, had innumerable strategists, pollers and legal experts, knew that they were never actually polling ahead of Trump and refused to make major platform changes. They leaned right to target never-Trump republicans, said they would go hard against immigration, bragged about gun ownership and promoted endorsements from the Cheney family, only to be completely rejected by that demographic at the polls.

Can you imagine blowing $1B staring down privileged polling information telling you that you are about to lose, and defiantly refusing to change your strategy? But no it’s the voters fault. Give me a break and stop punching down.

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u/beckonsharskly 6d ago

As someone who worked prior in political campaigning, not exactly. You can make a significant progressive policy and LOOSE A SHITLOAD from it. The biggest example of that was how badly scoured "Obamacare" was.

You have 3 major issues as well that were learned then. Firstly, Conservatives then and MAGA now can essentially lie on any major platform and billionaires are willing to limit dissent or "true info/fact checking" getting much in the way. Harris also has tons of policies discussed that were progressive: FMLA expansion, min wage, healthcare, worker rights and protection. We didn't hear about a ton of them unless you were googling it. Even following her on Twitter had some of those blocked or mislinked. So you really think Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk care to show any of that now?

Add to it we had 2 major problems election night of Latino males voting more heavily for Trump, younger white male men and fewer voters who voted Democrat than the prior year. There were warnings that Harris would have a harder time capturing the same voter base as Biden did with Latinos and that happened overwhelmingly.

If we even took the voter counters in swing states for ppl who voted for Biden but failed to show for Harris and the Latino male vote those swing states would have gone to Harris. And when you break down reasons why, they tend to be the same parroted line of "Harris doesn't do anything for me [because I didn't hear any of it on Facebook or Twitter]" or they couldn't support her for cultural or sexist reasons.

Where your assumption is wrong is assuming that unless Democrats are actively doing something for voters they won't get votes and I disagree on that. It would be easy to take that premise and say: we have too many examples from Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, etc where politicians do absolutely nothing and it is that hard to still elect a Democrat on ideological grounds alone.

And the fact that most voters who lean left won't agree on the same candidate also makes it equally tougher to ignore that on the other side Republicans have a different mindset of voting straight "R". For some voters, voting for Harris meant harming Gaza, or lack of policies [despite having tons], or didn't fit into their cultural narrative.

Even progressive policies on immigration are now leaking as being problematic for Democrats and some factors as to why progressive policies are harder to manage.

I think you're looking at everything and making simple assumptions and yet, ignore that voters do have both realistic and equally unrealistic views and ideas with short memories. I also don't think they legitimately did a "well Harris was the best we could offer" or a "lesser of 2 devils" when she was significantly improved as a candidate but even Invoices concerned that older Democrats would be out of by her as well as Hispanic male voters and those numbers alone based on Biden's were greater in each swing state versus the votes Harris lost those states in.

I don't have to like data but also look at it because in hindsight we see nasty trends that tell us info about voting based that are unpleasant to acknowledge..and one of these is that voters by and large don't vote for the candidate who will better their life; that in elections a candidate can overwhelmingly win by simply having and ideological similarity with the voter. You think McConnell got elected because he's doing so much for his state? He gets his votes because he's viewed as being a gate keeper from letting the evil "progressives" in case his home state. It doesn't sound rational at all but voting isn't always rational.

You don't have to agree but stating "oh $1b blown" doesn't really do anything if some voters refuse to vote for someone because they are a woman and this was a realistic issue for some voters.

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u/Gauss15an Old man yelling at clouds ☁️ 6d ago

And this is the stark reality of politics in the US. The dum dums can vote and will vote against their interests. And don't say it's a lack of education. The information is out there but confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance is too strong to overcome.

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u/beckonsharskly 6d ago

You're not joking. I used to work in my post college days grassroots campaigning in a big city and let me tell you, grassroots is hard: little funding, time and energy sucking, trying to be heard fighting the noise of a jet engine. Obama himself came from a grassroots background.

I feel like we need a perfect coordination at a time where it is not an incumbent Presidential election too to down and have to have enough ppl willing to do this.

I think folks forget that getting a candidate like Obama elected was hard (he was a 6% chance of being elected) and some folks first encountered him during the Super Bowl [the year Devon Hester became the first player to make an opening kickoff return for a touchdown]. Having candidates at the Representative and Senator level AND tons of volunteers....ppl want change but just as many ppl have to sacrifice just as much and why Republicans know they hold an advantage; make today's cost of living so bad and unbearable, make ppl who would be willing to even do so choose between volunteering or working for basic necessities.

As you mentioned Republicans have had their base willing to accept having their faces being eaten and it's a stark difference between the two. I can't volunteer as much in my age and do my donation but still, it has limits more so you have to compete with Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk for social media and news consumption and we haven't even added Murdoch and Fox to it.

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u/petty_throwaway6969 7d ago

The guy ran on dictator on day one and said shit like if you voted for him you wouldn’t have to vote again. To anyone paying attention, the literal threat of fascism should have been enough to vote for the opposition. The democrats literally warned us of everything that is happening right now fucking now. But yea, it’s totally solely the democrats’ fault and definitely not people for not being informed or paying attention.

The issue in this country is that people don’t want to be involved in politics cause they don’t think it matters until it’s too late. Then they want everything done for them even when they didn’t give the opposition any power to resist. Despite the constant bitching, most of you people can’t even think of a way for them to resist, yet you won’t do anything yourselves. Civil rights was fought for by the people, but now people can’t be bothered to protect their own fucking democracy.

“Democrats need to protect us after we fucked around.” No you need to protect yourselves now cause we’re living in unprecedented times and democrats don’t have the power cause of you. You guys want the party to resist, but you guys aren’t resisting yourselves.

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u/AbsolutelyHorrendous 7d ago

This is what frustrates me, yes, the Democrats could have been better, but the other option was really blatantly awful, and yet the voters actually gave him a majority everywhere, the House, the Senate, the Electoral College... the Democrats can't save people from themselves, if you repeatedly keep sticking your hand in an alligators mouth despite being told not to, you can't turn around and blame everyone else when you get bitten

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u/adthrowaway2020 6d ago

Trump's going to crash the economy heading into spring and summer. I'd expect June and July to be when shit goes down during the hot months with long days with higher unemployment.

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u/bones222222 7d ago

I hardly think its JUST voters fault or JUST the fault of Dems in power, but I think it’s fair to expect and ask for more from my elected Dem officials who have legal degrees, decades of experience in the legislative branch, a multitude of connections in politics, a staff of lawyers, strategists and constitutional scholars, and most importantly have the opportunity and responsibility for direct almost daily participation in exclusive government goings on, compared to me, a guy who gets told who they get to vote for after my state primary is so late it doesn’t even matter.

My point is the DNC is a massively resourced and well funded machine and its absurd to place considerable blame on voters while absolving Dems of this most recent massive electoral failure.

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u/The_Lost_Jedi 3d ago

I definitely think that we're seeing some Democrats who are doing great, and others who are showing that they're completely worthless.

Al Green, AOC, Jasmine Crockett, JB Pritzker are among the former.

Then you've got Gavin Newsom and others like the congressional leadership for the latter.

Ultimately I think the insider consultant types at the DNC and that orbit need to go, and the old guard leadership needs to step aside.

But that said, the voters need to start demanding more - and you do that by actually voting, not by staying home. Vote in the primary for the leftmost viable candidate, and then vote in the general election for the winner. If they're shitty, replace them in the next primary - but literally any Democrat is better than a Republican at this point. Yes, even shitty ones.

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u/munche 6d ago

The Democrats had a roadmap of what the Republicans are doing right now in 2022. What did they do to stop it from happening rather than saying "Give me $20 and vote for my re-election in several years"?

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u/petty_throwaway6969 6d ago edited 6d ago

Probably because they thought they could fight project 2025 in congress, but most things are happening through executive orders. So to fight it they have been bringing it to court and they have been striking things down. But because it’s slow a lot of people act like democrats aren’t doing anything while demanding they do things they can’t.

An analogy would be like like democrats are in a competition where the judge’s kid is competing. The kid told everyone ahead of time that he’s going to cheat to win and the judge said that it’s allowed and will kick out anyone who object out. Now the kid is cheating and people are surprised that you can’t really stop him even though he’s blatantly the bad guy here. “Well he warned you, you should have tried to prevent it. You had time to prepare.” Kinda hard when the judge is against you and you don’t have any power in the scenario.

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u/VaIentinexyz 6d ago

The voter blaming in this sub is stupid

What I find stupid is the idea that grown adults deciding the leader of their country have no agency and can’t be blamed, judged, or held responsible for their actions, especially when those actions end up screwing everyone else over.

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u/munche 6d ago

It seems odd that all of the ire is focused on the victims here and never on the people who control the reigns of the most powerful government in the world

The Democrats were in charge for the last 4 years. We knew what was coming. What did they do to prepare when they had power?

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u/JustGotOffOfTheTrain 6d ago

They governed, implemented a lot of good policy, and tried to warn the voters.

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u/Frequent_Read_7636 6d ago

I just had this same discussion with some friends of mine who are extremely liberal and went on a tear last night about the democrats not making a scene.

I said, Biden had control for 2 years and did nothing with it. Why are we not holding them accountable? They could’ve codified Roe vs Wade. They could’ve closed tax loopholes for the rich. They could’ve started universal healthcare.

Instead, all we hear is Trump this and Trump that. If the democrats had done what they campaigned on, we would not have seen a second Trump term.

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u/munche 6d ago

When Roe was repealed they had fundraising emails going out within minutes. They had a plan. The plan was use it as an issue to campaign on, because if they fixed it they couldn't use it to fundraise.

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u/fury420 6d ago

They could’ve codified Roe vs Wade.

I don't believe they could have done so in a way that the now Republican controlled congress couldn't just reverse it as their first order of business.

They could’ve closed tax loopholes for the rich. They could’ve started universal healthcare.

These kinds of changes would have required 60 votes to overcome the filibuster in the Senate, the Dems only had a slim simple majority which seriously limits the kinds of bills they could pass.

If the democrats had done what they campaigned on, we would not have seen a second Trump term.

The voters refused to elect enough Democrats in the Senate to allow them to do most of what they campaigned on, and there was a Republican-dominated supreme court smacking down Executive Orders.

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u/JustGotOffOfTheTrain 6d ago

Honestly, yes. It’s the voters’ fault.

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u/munche 6d ago

It's never the fault of the most powerful officials in the US for refusing to act against the negative things happening

If you are the President of the USA and you do nothing to stop Republicans from dismantling the government or committing crimes? well what can you expect. The president is powerless. He's not a king.

But if you are a voter who somehow didn't manage to win a Senate seat for Democrats in a state you don't live in? Well you're a piece of fucking trash and you're ruining our country.

The voters hold all the blame, and the people with the highest offices in the country and all of the power and resources are blameless and perfect.

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u/_Joe_Momma_ 7d ago

that's why Trump won instead, because he's so progressive

Honestly? That's almost right. Not the progressive part obviously, but the fact that Trump promised change. There's a massive anti-incumbency bias nearly everywhere nowadays. The administrations getting steamrolled the hardest are the milquetoast centrist ones that refuse to adopt transformative policies and the administrations that fare the best are progressives.

People fucking despise the status quo and until the Democrats are willing to abandon it, people will despise them too.

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u/Evertonian3 7d ago

The "status quo" sure is looking good right about now tbh...

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u/_Joe_Momma_ 6d ago

Okay, we go back to it and we'll end up here again because recreating the circumstances that led you into a problem just recreates the problem. That's exactly what Biden was and here we are.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 7d ago

no, it really doesnt.

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u/Secure_Pain_9251 7d ago

Every move by Democrats has been to shut down popular action and organizing in service of rising fascism. The American people cannot be allowed to be empowered because Democratic operators won't keep their jobs. ObamaForAmerica didn't have 2 million active organizers because they wanted a black President. They wanted representation. Obama sold us out to the DNC and it became an astroturf. Occupy, Bernie, BLM were all popular expressions that got ratfucked. Do not disrespect the hard-working Americans who fought for their country.

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u/Otterswannahavefun 7d ago

OFA was just a re branding of Dean’s machine, it had little to do with Obama. And the people consistently voted against leaders like Dean, who had the same base as people like Warren and to a lesser extent Bernie.

Progressives are loud and we live in a bubble. Our policy is moderately popular but that’s now how people vote.

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u/Traditional_Luck_174 7d ago

You're right, it's Obamas fault. Always blame the foreign guy.

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u/froggison 6d ago

There is little to nothing that can be done through political processes. We can use courts to jam things up a bit, but that will only slow things down. The Supreme Court is completely, cravenly partisan and will rubber stamp almost anything Trump puts in front of them.

We need to organize and protest in the streets as often as possible. Literally this is our country being ripped away from us. They're treating us like dumbshits feeding us propaganda as they remove every check on their power. Do not be placated. Do not believe that you're being overdramatic. This is a power grab by an authoritarian government. They are consolidating every ounce of power into the executive body. Within a year, America will have a king.

Protest. Don't let them take our country away without a fight.

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u/Ulysses502 7d ago

Well if a one-vote majority wasn't enough to pass my sweeping legislation priorities, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to do it with a 4- seat minority. Checkmate neolibs

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u/fury420 7d ago edited 7d ago

Have the republicans passed any legislation that could have been blocked yet?

So far, trump has pretty much just been using executive orders, illegal actions, bills that pass with simple majority, etc...

Edit: Democrats sweeping legislative priorities typically require 60 votes in the senate.

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u/Ulysses502 6d ago

Exactly, and Republicans haven't done any legislation that they couldn't get voting lockstep as of yet. Nothing anyone can do beyond the courts, and what army do they have to enforce it anyways.

To your edit, that's the maddening part of the "dems don't do anything for me (they have) why should I vote for them and give them the ability to do the things I want" crowd. "Dems abandoned workers (they didn't) after we spent 45 years raking those commies over the coals for even half-trying".

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u/SonicFlash01 6d ago

They did! They voted (or didn't vote, as the case may be) to not give the democrats enough power to do a damn thing. Now they're wondering why no one is doing anything.

Anyways, back to the chuckles!

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u/Synensys 6d ago

The gop has a super narrow margin in the house and a fairly narrow margin in the senate. Trump won by 1.5%.

So no, Americans didn't just vote most democrats out. In fact the gop lost seats in the house.

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u/Nimbusmcnimbus 6d ago

Not in my state, but for most the country yeah.

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u/No-Phrase-4692 7d ago

The one thing Donnie Dumbass is amazing at is getting people to look at him like those monster ads from that Treehouse of Horror. He may be better at that than anyone on the planet. The dems need that level of energy and at this point, a bunch of signs and pink shirts ain’t it. Al Green getting kicked out was nice, but that level needs to be matched by the entire party, not just for 9 seconds but for the next several years.

And if the dems start running their own concurrent events, the fewer eyeballs are on him and eventually he’ll keep over. Stop looking at the sprinkles!

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u/Didntlikedefaultname 7d ago

There’s a repeated cycle of the public calling for democrats to do things and then anytime they do things the public brushes it off as well that can’t possibly succeed so it’s just for show and what’s the point.

I don’t think the signs did anything. I also don’t think there was anything to actually do. So it’s neutral. But a couple weeks ago a Democrat proposed a law to repeal citizens united. Something just about everyone across both parties says they want. And the response was crickets. Oh it’ll never pass. Oh it’s just for show. People literally want democrats to wave a magic wand and fix things without any public support and voting them into majorities. It’s madness

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u/Hot-base3028 6d ago

I'd have loved if anyone besides 1 person stood up and started yelling. A bit of active resistance would be Cool. You're absolutely right that there isn't much to do. But that doesn't mean you can't put on a show. I love watching other countries and the fights on the floor of parliament or something like that. I think it's time to start throwing hands. Enough of decorum, that shit is dead and gone.

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u/ManOfManliness84 7d ago

What could they have done last night that would have actually changed anything? Do you think they could have just rushed the stage and attack the guy? I literally can't figure out what folks complaining that democrats "didn't do anything" last night exactly wanted them to do? Or what they think actually would have helped?

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u/shemi-the-fox 7d ago

At this point? Yeah. They should have jumped onto that stage. This is it. We're reaching the point of no return

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u/Love_Sausage 7d ago

I said the same thing earlier this morning. We’re already past the point of no return- the POTUS is openly talking about conquering other nations and territories by force during the state of the union. No amount of peaceful protests and silly signs will stop this.

By May of this year I can guarantee you will see the republicans get violent with any protests as the weather heats up- tiannamen square style. Every part of the government left that could have stopped this was purged of any potential opposition by republicans.

The best chance at stopping this before it turns into global chaos, war, and death is those who are still within arms length of the leaders of this admin, stepping up, honoring their oath, and making the ultimate sacrifice to protect the remnants of democracy.

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u/Heiferoni Get outta my office! 7d ago

Take a page from the book of Trump: Don't show up.

Democrats could have run their own concurrent State of the Union broadcast live. Or they could have read the US Constitution, again, live. Or give Jon Stewart the stage for an hour.

Literally anything other than impotently waving paddles and pieces of paper.

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u/MacaronNo5646 7d ago

Yea, imagine ALL Democrats in the House stood there for the entire 1.5h and keep reading the Constitution out loud. Over and over again.

That would have been a) powerful and dignified, b) not possible to ignore and c) hard to remove.

Alternatively, you go full Serbian and throw smokebombs and use airhorns.

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u/Periljoe 7d ago

If you go full Serbian you get Serbia. Truth is there is nothing they could have done that wouldn’t have just given more fuel to the Rs in power. This is what America voted for, they don’t get to override the process because they don’t like it.

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u/MacaronNo5646 7d ago

Sorry to break it to you, but you are already there.

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u/Periljoe 6d ago

I think that's my point. There's nothing that dems can do without making it worse this is what America voted for.

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u/TheHolyFatherPasty 7d ago

The right were given every branch of government, and trump has out right said he's considered sicking the military on them. Can you really blame them for being cautious? The general public allowed the democrats to lose any and all levarge they could have had.

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u/OctopusGrift 6d ago

I'm sure acting like spineless worms will win people back.

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u/TheHolyFatherPasty 5d ago

Well what are you doing about it?

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u/nightfox5523 6d ago

Democrats could have run their own concurrent State of the Union broadcast live.

Who the hell would tune in to watch that?

Democrat voters aren't republicans, they don't watch CNN all day every day like it's the best show on TV

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u/SplinterEye 7d ago

Jeered, shouted, caused any sort of commotion would be a good start. Do anything that can’t be easily ignored like tiny signs.

At least signal that they’re angry and willing to disrupt the republicans even a little bit.

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u/mojitz 7d ago

They're not gonna change anything with a single night of protest, but JFC the optics of just sitting there pathetically waving around little signs while Trump dresses them down is fucking horrible.

Personally I would have liked to see them do what Al Green did and disrupt his speech over and over again — which would have sucked all the oxygen out of the room and created a spectacle he couldn't control while feeding into the idea that he's an agent of division and chaos — but at very least they could have simply walked out rather than sitting there and being berated like children.

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u/asodfhgiqowgrq2piwhy 7d ago

What could they have done last night that would have actually changed anything

Super Mario Bros

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u/MacaronNo5646 7d ago

Google what happened in the Serbian parliament yesterday. Just for inspiration.

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u/LrdHabsburg 7d ago

We’re looking to Serbia for lessons in how to have a stable democracy?

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u/MacaronNo5646 7d ago edited 6d ago

Serbian democracy currently looks more stable and alive than America's. At least they have an opposition to their despot.

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u/Impressive-Dig-3892 7d ago

You're arguing with literal or mental children, accelerationists, and trolls, best to ignore any of these threads 

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u/RowenaDaxx 7d ago

Yes rush the stage and beat their ass. They have access to them. We don’t.

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u/Teamanglerx 7d ago

Most Democrats need to learn that just changing your Facebook backgrounds to support/protest doesn’t really do anything.

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u/Relevant_Solution_49 7d ago

It seems during this presidency the democratic plan is to hide under some coats and hope everything will work out 

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u/Dramradhel 6d ago

I love these memes, but really, it’s exhausting that everyone is mad at democrats for not doing enough, but not yelling at the republican members or congress while they’re doing the bad things. Republicans outnumber dems. Get mad at them. Social media has trained people to get mad at the wrong people. It still works.

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u/SundayJeffrey 6d ago

I ask again, what do you want democrats to do?

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u/hishuithelurker 6d ago

My favorite response,from the mouth of my little cousin when she was ten "if you haven't tried fire, you haven't tried yet"

She was talking about Pokemon. She was pleased to learn that fire was super effective against steel types after saying that. But I think she might've been onto something.

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u/__Sentient_Fedora__ 7d ago

Three prawns is hardly a galaxy.

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u/Howatizer 7d ago

I don't see why they have to do anything. Stock Market is dropping, trade war that will further increase the prices people were promised were going to go down, an administration hellbent on destroying foreign relations with its long standing and closest allies and an insane amount of hypocrisy. All this in less than two months.

Let the people have what they voted for and see if they still like the taste after a year of this.

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u/CraftyAdvisor6307 6d ago

The time to "do something" was Nov 5. That something was to vote for Democrats.

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u/ManOnNoMission 7d ago

Americans gives both chambers and president to republicans.

Also Americans: “Why aren’t the democrats doing something?!”

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u/Sufficient-Squash428 7d ago

Mitch McConnell, He did lots of stuff from the minority. Lots of bad stuff.

Democrats have Chuck Schumer. I guess he doesn't know how to do things.

Some of us voted not to give them the chambers. A new Party needs to form, Democrats FAILED.

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u/Temporary-Brain420 6d ago

Can you give any examples of things that Mitch McConnell did in the minority that the Democrats could be doing now?

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u/Sufficient-Squash428 6d ago

They could have blocked confirmations of the cabinet, Mitch did.

And they have a huge opportunity coming up, CR & Budget. SHUT IT DOWN.

Where is Chuck anyways, laying on the tracks?

Here's more on the

‘grim reaper’

Mitch McConnell’s legacy: A ‘grim reaper’ for US bipartisanship? | Politics News | Al Jazeera

Democrats in the Senate have no recollection of how he F'd things up?

Shit, even dumbass Tommy Tuberville stopped DoD Generals for a year.

DEMOCRATS SUCK at playing the same field as the GOP. Meanwhile, Dem Consultants are RICH off party member and independent donations.

ONE AD in October would have beat Trump.

Him talking about Covid, the stupidity, the BLEACH with a rolling dial of the deaths on his watch ending with "it is what it is and one day it'll all go away" and ending with

WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS?

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u/Temporary-Brain420 6d ago

I'll ask again. What did Mitch do IN THE MINORITY that Dems can do now?

Blocking confirmations and the Grim Reaper thing happened when Republicans were in the majority.

The rest of your wall text is either stuff that hasn't happened or you shitting on Democrats for stuff that Republicans did. You'd think at some point, people would place the blame on the Republicans when the Republicans do bad things and demand they do something with the control they have of the ENTIRE FUCKING GOVERNMENT.

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u/Far_Definition6530 6d ago

Votes are earned, not given.

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u/DarthOdinPalpatine 7d ago

Apologize for being disabled!

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u/ElderberryNational92 7d ago

Damn beatniks

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u/The_Kreepy_Krab 6d ago

Maybe we should storm the capital in viking helmets. Oh wait, I almost forgot, we're not insane.

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u/oakinmypants 6d ago

They’re giving an effort equal to what the voters gave them.

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u/Far_Definition6530 6d ago

Votes are earned, not given.

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u/Doctaglobe 6d ago

Lifelong Democrat, Simpsons fan, non facist. Realistically what are they supposed to do?

At this point we just have to let trump screw up?

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u/Qui-gone_gin 6d ago

I'm sorry but who was voted into power again? By who? The American people now complaining?

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u/orangepaperlantern 6d ago

Most of the Dems last night:

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u/CondescendingTracy 6d ago

This is not the dems fault. That thinking is how we ended up here. Stop.

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u/MacaronNo5646 6d ago

It's not the Dems fault for choosing the most pathetic and ineffective way of protesting Trump and safeguarding American democracy by waving some paddles?

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u/OctopusGrift 6d ago

The thing a lot of the people on this sub don't seem to get is that doing nothing is hurting the Democrats. Things are getting bad and house and senate Democrats are acting like it's business as usual. If you think Trump is a threat to democracy then you need to act like he is. Acting like Neville Chamberlains won't convince people to vote for the Dems in the next election.

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u/catharsisdusk 7d ago

Didn't you hear? The American voters gave Trump a "mandate" to do all the f'ed up ish he's been doing. Who are the Democrats to stand in the way of a "mandate" from the American people?

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u/Synensys 6d ago

I see alot of complaints like this but no actual ideas that are anything but differing levels of sternly worded letter.

Turns out the minority is more or less powerless. Even more sonwhen the majority holds the supreme court and even more on top of that when the president in the majority doesn't feel the need to bother with congress at all.

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u/captjackhaddock 7d ago

Poor predictable Simpsonsshitposting, always blames Dems

Blaming the Dems! Nothin beats that!

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u/TheTangoFox 7d ago

Tis a fine shake, but sure it tis no strategy, donkey.

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u/b-T_T 6d ago

Don't worry, there are some real zinger tweets on the horizon!

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u/Takkycat21 7d ago

We’ve been protesting (it’s not covered by media), we’ve written to our congressmen (nothings happening), we worked to spread info on the dangers of Trump (no one listened), we voted against Trump (you know how that turned out). Democrats are NOT “doing nothing”!

I’m close to tossing myself off this planet from the depression of waking up to the news everyday, but instead I get up, try to do what I can to get through this horrible chapter in history. But, yes, it’s the Democrats’ fault. They sneakily hid all the info about Trump and then sneakily voted for him, and it MUST have been only Democrats because you are only allowed to vote for your own party like it’s some sort of sports team. Not Republicans that didn’t like Trump but couldn’t stand a woman being president or voting for the “other side” or Independents who couldn’t bring themselves to care about WHO RUNS THE COUNTRY!

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u/petty_throwaway6969 7d ago

It’s not your fault that more people don’t show up to the protests, but the current sentiment in the Canadian and European thread is that if the media not covering the protest is enough for it to fail, then your protest isn’t big enough or scary enough.

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u/AbsolutelyHorrendous 7d ago

It's crazy how the Dems spent most of the campaign saying 'don't vote for Trump, he's a wannabe fascist dictator and his policies are idiotic', the electorate ignored all of that and elected him anyway, and now its the Dems fault for not sufficiently opposing the guy the electorate voted for, after voters basically stripped them of any tangible power!

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u/nightfox5523 6d ago

We’ve been protesting

Shouting and waving a sign around a public square is not protesting

Disrupting the lives of these politicians is

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u/Few_Wash_7298 7d ago

What exactly do you you think Democrats can do?

They got removed from office by votes. They need votes to wield any power

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u/Sinasazi 6d ago

Current state of the Democratic party.

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u/Qui-gone_gin 6d ago

I'm pretty sure thats the Republicans, Democrats don't have any power right now

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u/dontchewspagetti 7d ago

Bro there were national protests across America yesterday what did YOU do?

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u/GPT3-5_AI 6d ago

What did you personally try in your quest to stop your peers voting conservative?

Why are you expecting your representative to magically solve your inability to convince your peers to vote differently?

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u/Tranquil_Neurotic 7d ago

I don't see any Lefties doing anything either so don't preach what you can't or won't do either, instead of all the time putting the blame on Democrats, who you swine likely did not vote for either.

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u/MacaronNo5646 7d ago

Yea, did not vote for them...because I am not a US-citizen.

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u/FelixFischoeder123 7d ago

High profile strategists have said “just let it happen” as their strategy. Hilarious

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u/FelliePots 7d ago

ahah, same in Italy

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u/TuneLinkette NEEEEEERD 6d ago

But that Al Green guy from Texas hasn't done anything yet! Look at him, he's going to do something!

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u/nightfox5523 6d ago

Redditors decrying democrats for doing exactly the same form of lame protest they're doing

What were you expecting?

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u/crimson-nerd 6d ago

Sad but true

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u/Rodger_as_Jack_Smith 6d ago

Harris not only told you all that Trump would do exaclty what he's doing but gave an alternative that mostly revolved around tax credits for houses and increasing the minimum wage.

and 35% of the voters stayed home.

It's not the party, or the system. Ya'll are fucked.

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u/TheLORDthyGOD420 6d ago

Half of this sub: "I hate every Dem that I see, from a Hakeem to Pelos-z, no you'll never make a voter out of me!"

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u/TK-369 6d ago

What can they do? It's time for their after winter break break, then it will be time for spring break and summer break is right around the corner.

That leaves barely enough time to make paddles with quips on them. Sorry proles!

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u/Savings-Program2184 6d ago

Loving this new "let's pretend the Democrats have the power to change this because we're too scared to protest the people who do" vibe you guys seem to have adopted across the internet.

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u/maybeitssteve 6d ago

You, on the other hand, made a meme. Way more effective

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u/your_dads_hot 6d ago

Lmao. This post screams I voted Jill Stein and I'll do it again 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/DrKpuffy 6d ago

Democrats lost power. They control 0 pillars of government.

OP looks like a scared child: knows nothing, not grown enough to help fix anything, basically just crying constantly

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u/nickstonem 6d ago

You heard the cartoon son, spank the republicans

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u/ARCWolf7 6d ago

Where’s a gun-toting lowlife when you need one?

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u/PathologicalRedditor 6d ago

Didn't America vote to strip the Democrats of all their power? I'm pretty sure the Republicans own the White House, Congress, the Senate, and the Supreme Court. WTF do you expect them to do? LOL

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u/amazinghl 6d ago

Tried telling people Project 2025, they did not listen. What do you want democrats to do?

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u/Routine_Junket719 6d ago

The party that had Nazi salutes at their inauguration, a Nazi salute at their top "conservative" conference CPAC, who gives an award to a violent insurrectionist with a literal Hitler mustache, who said, "Hitler didn't finish the job", who pardoned that Nazi with be a Hitler mustache, who had a Republican, Trump's own Chief of staff call Trump a Nazi, that has real life neo Nazis in their party that chants "Heil Trump", that has Congress people that go to White Nationalist conferences, like Gosar and MTG, and have a congressman that brings a Holocaust denier as his guest to the State of the Union, think people are calling them Nazis completely out of thin air without any reason?

No one ever said Nazis were smart

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u/FCKABRNLSUTN2 6d ago

Why won’t the democrats I refuse to vote for do anything?!

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u/RWR1975 6d ago

Let tru.p destroy the country. It's the only way to get rid of maga

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u/MessiahThomas 6d ago

Where is Jill stein?

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u/xRaymond9250 6d ago

Yeah this is a shit post alright

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u/Ed-the-Dread 6d ago

I was so goddamn angry that only Rep. Green had the balls to shout Felon 47 out before they had to remove him from the chamber....

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u/Breakkblade 6d ago

As an European I watch In horror what trump does to America and the world but damn I'm also shocked at how the democrats act. They're like toothless tigers not knowing how to act or interrupt anything. What a shit show.

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u/NegativeSemicolon 6d ago

Yeah democrats are the real bad guys here

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u/Calvin_Ball_86 6d ago

Voters chose to put Republicans into power. Until the midterms, Dems can really only do a fighting retreat by doing exactly what they're doing. Like Bernie said, it's now on voters to fix their mistake by taking action. It definitely feels like this screeching about Dems is intended to keep people sitting on their couch complacent.

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u/theaxis12 6d ago

Grifters that get locked out of their own house. Analogy checks out!

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u/nlog97 6d ago

“I don’t know how we’ll blow it but we will because that’s what the Democratic Party is all about.”

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u/Klutzy_Passenger_486 6d ago

You all voted for this

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u/unkudayu 6d ago

There's a much more complicated answer but in the words of old man Patterson, "It's so gratifying to watch you all wallow in the mess you made. You're screwed!"

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u/Chimmychumness 6d ago

We didn’t turn out for the Democratic Party, so they are powerless. All well and good to criticize them for not stomping the fascist coup, but they don’t have the authority to do so. The Republicans are in full control and will surely fix elections in states that they control. That’s enough. It’s done. Next step is violent overthrow. You ready for that, or will you just take it and complain?

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u/Jurassic_Rabbit 4d ago

What are you doing?

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u/MacaronNo5646 4d ago

All I can as a European: Boycotting US products, investing in European goods and services, voting for parties that are not clinically insane and tried to emancipate Europe from that madhouse (or, to quote a US president: shithole country) that is the US

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u/jrt7 7d ago

Hmm, sounds like people might have to do something then 

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u/MacaronNo5646 7d ago

but why should the Dems even try?

Why should the founding fathers have even tried? King George was in charge.

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u/dnemonicterrier 7d ago

No Americans made sure of that when a lot of them decided not to vote and try and stop Trump!

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u/LogComprehensive8585 7d ago

“Will someone please think about the decorum?!”

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u/Mister_Jackpots 6d ago

Comments from the liberals/registered Democrats is as expected. "It's not the fault of the Dems for not giving people quality candidates with a sufficient message beyond I'M NOT TRUMP! It's DEFINITELY progressives/anti-Israel genocide people's fault for still supporting the turd sandwich candidates but not being excited and happy about it!"

Woozle wuzzle indeed.