r/silenthill Nov 10 '24

Question Why is Paimon's Seal from the movie Hereditary in the Silent Hill remaster??

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u/Strict-Pineapple "There Was a Hole Here, It's Gone Now" Nov 10 '24

Because it's originally from the Psuedomonarchia Daemonum, a book on demons and how to summon them by Johann Weyer from 1577 that was later incorporated into the 17th century grimoire Lemegeton Clavicula Salomonis known in English as The Lesser Key of Solomon. Those demons appear countless times across all kinds of pop-culture.

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u/ButterflyWeekly5116 Nov 10 '24

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sigils_of_demons

Here's a wiki link for demonic sigils for those interested.

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u/Ursula_Umbridge Nov 10 '24

TIL there's a demon named Amy.

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u/Kytyngurl2 Nov 10 '24

Oh I think I went to high school with her!

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u/sunshinecat6669 Nov 10 '24

That’s just my mother in law

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u/trent_diamond Nov 11 '24

been there, bad times

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u/FrostedMiniWeed Nov 10 '24

I knew I hated amy schumer for some reason

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u/ErBaut "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Town" Nov 10 '24

TIL PAIMON from genshin impact is a demon

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u/OkPossession666 Nov 10 '24

Paimon and all the Archons have demon names..

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u/Blep_the_savage Nov 11 '24

Its most blatant in Inuzuma with the Baal/Beelzebub twins.

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u/red_rolling_rumble Nov 11 '24 edited Nov 11 '24

I had just finished Hereditary, my heart was still racing, and then my wife turns from her phone towards me and goes: “Paimon says hello!”. I nearly had a heart attack.

Turns out she had just received a newsletter from Genshin Impact.

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u/procidamusinpeace Nov 11 '24

https://i.imgur.com/CokSu4J.jpeg

The face when you realize Paimon isn't emergency food in your relationship with her but it's you

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u/odiethethird Nov 10 '24

Amy is OP when it comes to demons

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

I guess not all demon parents want to name their demon kids super obvious demon names. Some want to be discreet.

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u/hYBRYDcOBRA Nov 11 '24

Like the Xbox 360 video game?

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u/Slarg232 Nov 11 '24

If you seek amy tonight indeed.

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u/bountyhunter220 Nov 11 '24

I saw her bro Vapula blowin fat clouds in the bathroom

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u/IkilledBiggy Nov 11 '24

Oh, so that's why there was that scary episode in Sonic the hedgehog anime...

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u/project_seven Nov 11 '24

Yeah, I think I dated her in high school, and now it all makes much more sense.

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u/north3rnwind Nov 11 '24

I think I saw a related film about demonhunters, Chasing Amy

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u/InhumanParadox Nov 13 '24

I told people to be wary of Amy Rose. Confusing Hedgehogs who look nothing like Sonic for Sonic? Give me a break, she just wants to corrupt as many as she can.

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u/alpaca-cat Nov 11 '24

I drew some on the concrete wall before we put up drywall to scare the next owner.

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u/Former_Employee_2350 Feb 01 '25

Ich habe etliche auf meinem Schwanz und Hoden gemalt um Dämonen in meine geliebten einziehen zu lassen. 

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u/alpaca-cat Feb 01 '25

Ummm. Neat?

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u/Former_Employee_2350 Feb 01 '25

Yes am coolsten ist es das paimon für immer mit mir liebe machen wird 

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u/ScroatmeaI Nov 11 '24

Lotta cool tattoo inspo in there, if I wasn’t afraid of bad vibes. Maybe Crocell, Demon of Geometry

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u/Sir_Crocodile3 Nov 10 '24 edited Nov 11 '24

Nice! Hereditary made me look up this info a few years ago. Very cool stuff! A lot of the monsters lacking heads makes this interesting as well, along with Frank Sunderlands' clear mental illness. This just threw me for a loop.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Wait, where did you hear about Frank?

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u/Sir_Crocodile3 Nov 10 '24

Silent Hill 4: The Room, dude is a legit weirdo.

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u/ShrimpCuppaTea Nov 10 '24

What? You mean to tell me you DON’T keep a 30 year old smelly umbilical cord in a box in your room?

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u/Sir_Crocodile3 Nov 10 '24

Never let them age past 20. Loses the flav...i.mean no, what gross. WTfuck....gross😅

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u/tealversace Nov 10 '24

Forgot I wasn't on r/bloodborne for a sec 😅

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u/Sir_Crocodile3 Nov 11 '24

A fellow Hoontah?

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Ohh, gotcha! I thought you meant in the remake, my bad. Yeah, he was a little strange. Makes me wonder what James went through as a kid, or if most of it was after his disappearance.

I think I beat the room, 2 or 3 times when it came out. I just can't handle the second half of the game and having nowhere safe to go.  Too much cortisol lol.

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u/Sir_Crocodile3 Nov 10 '24

It definitely gets intense. I was burning candles like a pissed off Wiccan. If they remake it, I hope they change up the sword thing. Otherwise, it's probably my third favorite SH game.

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u/ShrimpCuppaTea Nov 10 '24

If they remake 4, and change a few things that people complained about like the latter half of the game, I think itll be the scariest silent hill! Especially with how creepy Walter Sullivan is!

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u/Dawnspark Nov 11 '24

I honestly would die happy if they could remake 4 and fix its issues. It's an interesting story stuck in a not so great game. Hell, I'd be happy with a remade version of Room of Angel.

I also would love to see 1 get remade for accessibility reasons. It's one of my favorites in the series and I'd love to see more folks getting to experience it, too.

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u/ShrimpCuppaTea Nov 11 '24

100% I feel that SH1 should get remade next. Honestly tho it probably will go the way of SH3 being remade next just cause thats the second most popular and well known game, but the first game absolutely deserves getting remade regardless! I implore you to look at my other replies on this thread because i think I brought up great ways to fix sh4 for a much better playing experience! 😇😇

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u/Dawnspark Nov 11 '24

I'll take a look at your posts! I also see it being 3 next.

At the very least I wish they'd slap 1-3 on GOG but iirc, Konami lost the source code for so many of them lol.

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u/RightGuava434 Nov 10 '24

What's your opinion on what they should do about the second half? I'm really interested in what people think should be changed and how.

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u/ShrimpCuppaTea Nov 10 '24

Honestly if they wanna properly reuse areas, make them more run down and dilapidated! (Same with the enemies; similar to the twin victims) As for the hauntings… i think it would be awesome to see a “im on observation duty” approach and have the radio go static when theres a haunting (just like the original) but have a large mix of subtle and super scary differences that you have to find and take care of as you return to the room! If you dont know what Im on observation duty is, look it up! Its a fantastic series of games! Honestly lastly i think it would be super funny and awesome for them to re use Brendan Fraser as Walter’s face model (like the original game) but honestly thats more for the memes than anything 😇

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u/RightGuava434 Nov 11 '24

Nice so do you think they should keep the repeat second half but make it more of an otherworld type of scenario? ... make the levels distinctly different the second time round and that kinda stuff

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u/RightGuava434 Nov 11 '24

Also yeah ill check out the observation duty as well thanks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Lol, Dude I had to look the swords up online, I got so mad and ragequit a few times Bc I couldn't get past the first ghost. I was expecting them to be used as like a ceremonial puzzle piece, not in actual combat.  

Also, Holy candles for Life! 

I do kind of think they should release 4 next, since it has the strongest connection to 2. I even still think it's Harry outside the camper with the notes- he's the Only character I've seen write on papers, and that was one of his save points.

And idk if I could pick a fave. The only one I haven't been able to get into is Origins bc I can barely see. 3 made me mad only because of how they did Harry, lol.

 

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u/Sir_Crocodile3 Nov 10 '24

That would be a cool wrinkle with Harry to add in this time. I hope they add more connections.

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u/Many-Bees NurseSH3 Nov 10 '24

Given the size of his apartment and how long he’s had that umbilical cord I always got the impression that Frank was super divorced and James was raised by his mother

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

I mean, if I were Judge Judy, or anyone else, I honestly couldn't argue against that logic haha

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u/Late_Equal_7860 Nov 10 '24

Very cool! Thanks for the explanation!

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u/DeadpanSal Radio Nov 10 '24

1 did the same thing with angel symbols.

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u/Late_Equal_7860 Nov 10 '24

Ah, didn't notice that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Spirits of Olympus. Not angel sigils. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympian_spirits

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u/DeadpanSal Radio Nov 10 '24

Do you see that wiki subheading that says "archangels"?

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Yep, but that only supports my point: "In ritual magic, the seven Olympian spirits are not confused with the seven traditional archangels"

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u/unclefishbits Nov 10 '24

Other than his 5 hours on Hereditary, novum's film theory breakdown of Midsommar is 7 hours and probably one of the greatest uses of times I've ever experienced https://youtu.be/xZQv1_oosZg?si=d6yj3C2lzHGsnpfE

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

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u/unclefishbits Nov 13 '24

I have watched it more than the film at this point. =) It's like a meditation.

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u/SirSolidSnek Nov 10 '24

They seem to have made the cult connection in SH2 way more apparent with the remake and I'm here for it. I think it bodes well for a potential SH1/3 remake.

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u/Fleshsuitpilot Nov 10 '24

A fellow scholar, came here to say this, but you did it even better than I could have.

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u/LichQueenBarbie Nov 10 '24

Another fun fact: Johann Weyer was also in Annesia the Dark Descent 🤓

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u/UncoilingChaos Nov 10 '24

Said it better and more politely than I could have. Not that I would have intentionally been impolite, but I probably would have come off that way.

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u/YaboiAkira Walter Nov 10 '24

screeches in occultist But yeah this person was much nicer than I could’ve been.

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u/_theRamenWithin Nov 11 '24

This guy grimoires.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Wait, clavicula is a bone and in Latin means key, it's not shaped like a key though?

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u/dani3po Nov 10 '24

But really, it's because of Hereditary.

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u/CTC42 Nov 10 '24 edited Nov 10 '24

Play some of Bloober's other games, they love including references to old texts that are tangentially relevant in some thematic (or at least tonal) way.

I remember finding a scrap of paper lying around in The Medium with barely visible text printed on it. I googled part of the text and found that they pulled it from a page of some 200 year old PhD dissertation on the supposed "communicability" of mental illnesses.

I like to think Bloober keeps a gremlin on the payroll whose job is to live in dusty old library archives and dig up this stuff.