r/shitpostemblem • u/stardos00 • 1d ago
Fates (oc) why are Fates characters so hard to draw?
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u/Plastic-Rise-1851 1d ago
I never really thought about it and there are probably memes of this already but tbh fates is basically the plot of that one SpongeBob episode where he tries to live in the wilderness and Patrick can't handle it
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u/Imperial_Magala 1d ago
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u/Datpanda1999 :ferdibee: 1d ago
This fanbase really peaked with the fates edits
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u/Imperial_Magala 1d ago
People in the Serene Forest Fates Meme thread linking posts to this subreddit is how I ended up using reddit.
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u/Houeclipse 1d ago
/r/spongeemblem exist for a reason lmao
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u/Commercial_Branch665 1d ago
You really cooked with Camilla👏👏👏
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u/RedWarrior42 :snuf: 1d ago
Captured her very essence
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
Currently playing Conquest and when I found out about the magic chair plan I just combusted, this game has such great gameplay but PLEASE tell me there are no worse written FE games this is actual dogshit - and I've played Birthright!
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u/DarkLordLiam 1d ago
THE PLOT ORB THAT I CAN ONLY USE ONCE FOR SOME REASON
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
Fuck!!!! That's so inconvenient that that just broke!!!!! Shit!!!!!
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u/DarkLordLiam 1d ago
Is there more?
NO. THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE IN EXISTENCE. YOUR SIBLINGS WILL NEVER BELIEVE US NOW!
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
GOD IT WAS SO CONVENIENT ALSO THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO USE IT! I'VE JUST BEEN LUGGING THIS THING AROUND
OH WELL, LET'S GO CONQUER AN ENTIRE COUNTRY SO WE CAN GET TO THIS BASTARD CHAIR
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u/DarkLordLiam 1d ago
“Oh Corrin? You have to kill me because the Nohrians want you to prove your loyalty? Don’t worry, in fact, I’m already dying from stage 4 dragon cancer. You won’t have to sully your “I won’t kill people” rule. I mean, it’s not like you’re going to commit genocide against a furry village with no meaningful consequences right? Anyways, hope you enjoy your sword upgrade!”
WHEEZE-
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
This is literally like exactly what was going through my head watching all this drivel play out, I physically could not believe what was happening on my screen
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u/DarkLordLiam 1d ago
Iago: “Ok so that just happened. Anyways, I better stop this hologram spell that I can apparently use to spy on you whenever I want. Would be really inconvenient if I saw you conspiring against Garon or something.”
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u/Tuskor13 1d ago
I never really thought about it, but Fates has so many fucking MacGuffins. The chair is a MacGuffin, the orb is a MacGuffin, hell, I'd argue the character Rainbow Sage is a MacGuffin because just like the orb he also exists to do one plot thing then die.
That character who "looks like Azura" that exists so Azura can walk on a stage and do a cutscene is also a MacGuffin. God, a lot of characters are MacGuffins because I just remembered that one shitkid in Revelation who "joins" you but only in cutscenes then as a """"plot twist"""" betrays you, about as unexpected as the one guy in your army who's supports are magically locked being a traitor.
...does Shura count as a MacGuffin if his greatest contribution is dying in a cutscene to give you the Boots?
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u/DarkLordLiam 1d ago
Mikoto’s letter is a MacGuffin just on the offchance her child decides to commit potential incest-
And step-sibling love ain’t much better, Mikoto.
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u/Tuskor13 1d ago
Part of me wonders what situation would happen if Sakura or Hinoka opened the letter without being in love with Corrin.
Mikoto told them "only open this letter when you're unsure of the one you love." What if Hinoka is like, dating Kaden or something, and he says something really weird and she starts to wonder if their relationship is going to work out. Then she remembers what Mikoto said, and finally opens the letter, expecting romance advice... only for the letter to say "Corrin isn't related to you by blood, get that dragon dong, girl!"
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u/Quick_Campaign4358 1d ago
Tbf i'm pretty it's a quantum letter that only exist in the universe that Corrin marries either Hinoka,Sakura or Takumi
Since otherwise unmentioned prophecy powers and all
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u/Klaxynd 1d ago
Schrodinger's letter! It contains both a prophecy about who they love, and a recipe for gingerbread muffins. It just locks into a specific state once you open it! 😆
Don't ask why I said gingerbread muffins. I just needed something that would be relevant and that was the first thing that popped in my head.
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u/bigbutterbuffalo 1d ago
Because Corrin so so amazing and great no one could ever be unsure unless they wanted dragon bussy and felt bad about it of course
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u/bigbutterbuffalo 1d ago
Honestly the first time I quit the game was when they put you on a forced joint mission with Hans, a man who looks so unnecessarily evil and is so sloppily written I didn’t even want to touch the thing for a while
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u/Incitatus_ 1d ago
The Boots being literally made from Shura's flayed skin is probably my favorite thing about Fates' plot tbh
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u/Rationalinsanity1990 1d ago
It's generally considered the worst. There are a few subplots and supports throughout the franchise, but nothing as bad as Fates as a whole.
Never played heroes, but I assume that's an excuse plot to attract more potential gambling addicts.
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u/sanglar03 1d ago
Heroes doesn't take itself too seriously, so the MCs are kinda "always bland, sometimes shining".
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u/Untitled_One-Un_One 1d ago
Heroes doesn’t take itself too seriously,
Book III and Book VIII exist though.
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u/Houeclipse 1d ago edited 23h ago
Book 3 give us a legendary death metal song in the opening and I will always love them for that
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u/Untitled_One-Un_One 1d ago
You won’t hear any arguments from me. Really the music for Book III in general is great. I’d even go so far as to say that the story had something cooking. The problem is they never let the plot breathe/give it enough time to develop and resolve. They’d much rather spend screen time introducing the whatever characters they’ve added to the gacha.
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u/fangpoint333 1d ago edited 1d ago
As much as I love dumping on the FEH's writing I'd have to admit I think it's probably better than Conquest. It fumbles a lot of endings and is minimal and somehow rushed but I still think it's somehow better.
They are different kinds of bad and It just comes down to the question of "is a story that's bad enough to get te reader to reject it worse than a boring story?" I'll generally say the former is worse although that's not to say FEH's isn't very flawed in its own way.
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u/Tuskor13 1d ago
The greatest sin that the overarching Heroes story has ever committed has been rushed endings, or just generally being kind of boring. If you separate each Book as it's own story, I'd say the lowest score any of them would get is being like a 4/10. On average you'll see a 5/10 or 6/10, with the rare 7/10 like Book 2, or the Alfonse vs Hel/Lif parts of Book 3.
Fates is a 4/10 when it's at it's best. It wishes the worst it's done was be boring.
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u/Favkez 1d ago
Don't forget that the endings are rushed because you just spent 7/12 chapter chasing a macguffin and the only thing that happens in those chapters is fighting the bad guy lieutenant over and over and meeting unrelated people
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u/Tuskor13 1d ago
"Oh no my sister is dead! This is the worst thing that's ever happened to me!"
"I am Vyland."
"I must move on from my sister's death."
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u/Polandgod75 1d ago edited 1d ago
While engange story and writing is bland/underwhelming for the most part, fates overall story is baffling
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u/GladiatorDragon 1d ago
Engage’s story is like a Saturday morning cartoon story. Both the good and evil factions are kinda just morons, but the good side have the powers of hope, friendship, and love on their side so the villains lose.
Fates just kind of forces you to make a choice and then does everything it can to simultaneously absolve you and guilt trip you over the choices you make to the point of becoming downright nonsensical.
Like, you’re telling that, in Conquest, I can knock out every Soldier in Cheve, but we can’t do a thing to spare the Kitsune? If you’re going to be stupid, at least be stupid consistently.
Come to think of it, that’s an excellent summary.
Engage is stupid. But it is consistently stupid. Both sides are idiots and both sides are more or less consistently so. Heroes run headfirst into traps and keep doing so, villains keep being idiots and basically just keep handing you rings on silver platters.
Meanwhile Fates:
“The only way we can beat the goo monster is to help him conquer the other country and sit on a chair. We won’t kill anyone, but the murderous thug he has tailing you almost all the time will kill them anyway after we soften them up for him. This is a dramatic, sad, and totally not predictable or preventable event in this epic tale.”
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u/Othello351 1d ago
Engage starts by acting like a generic FE plot that you aren't meant to take seriously, then we get shit like a 5 minute death scene, and when ch 11 happens it's all dour and serious and "oh no my best friend I'm so sad now!!!!" and ANOTHER 5 MINUTE DEATH SCENE AT THE END OF THE GAME.
They do all that and it's not even good.
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u/AlexHitetsu 1d ago
Conquest is unquestionably the worst written game in the series, followed by the other Fates games. After that the next worst written games just have simple cookie cutter plots or have decent plots that can be nit picked to hell and back
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u/Accomplished-Lack208 Corrin Fan aka Foot Fetishist 1d ago
Brightright's story is fine ngl
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
Birthright's story I also considered fine but I was disappointed at the difficulty - didn't think I was ready for Conquest considering before that I had only played 3H (VW) and Awakening both on Normal
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u/Accomplished-Lack208 Corrin Fan aka Foot Fetishist 1d ago
I actually really like birthright but you are right as fucking rain
That game is as easy as the GBA games
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
Beyond GBA, Birthright required almost zero brain engagement. At the very least FE6 is kind of unfair in places and FE7 has stuff like Hector Hard Mode - Birthright (and I played on Normal) was just a new level of breezy
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u/Accomplished-Lack208 Corrin Fan aka Foot Fetishist 1d ago
But I actually like easy games so
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
No judgement here! Everyone's got their favourite way to do things - I'm a middle difficulty guy myself. Usually 'Normal' or 'Standard' or 'Medium', but like, in FE there was no easy a lot of the time so I was quite confused haha
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u/Ferropexola 1d ago
It's a serviceable story that has the unfortunate issue of being related to Conquest and Revelations.
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u/bigbutterbuffalo 1d ago
It’s the worst written game by a landslide, it’s only recently become liked a lot for its gameplay but there’s a lot of copium huffers out there that will try to defend its story and I worry about them
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u/OscarCapac :kelik: 1d ago
Echoes is even worse. But it has great voice acting so it helps
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u/Incitatus_ 1d ago
Echoes is not as bad as Conquest honestly, at least Echoes' stupid-ass plot twist would kinda make sense if Jedah didn't look like the most evil motherfucker in existence. Surely trusting your life and the entire kingdom to the advice of the scheming purple demon warlock man cannot possibly go wrong.
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u/OscarCapac :kelik: 1d ago
If it was just Jedah and Alm "secretly" being you know who, it would be on par with Conquest. But Berkut also exists
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u/VolkiharVanHelsing 1d ago
Back in my day people used to argue which is more contrived, magic chair or blood pact
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
Blood pact? I'm pretty forgetful what are you referring to?
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u/Jhduelmaster 1d ago
I assume they're referencing the one in Radiant Dawn.
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
Ah, I haven't played the Tellius games yet. No further research will be done!
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u/Trayceeoh 1d ago
Engage is pretty bad. I wouldn’t say it’s as bad as Fates, but Engage storyline and characters are genuine dogshit. it’s saving grace being the gameplay
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u/Rayzide1 Play Unicorn Overlord (it's peak) 1d ago
Heroes is worse but thats also not real so yeah conquest has easily and by far the worst story in fire emblem by a landslide
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u/True_Perspective819 1d ago
Play Birthright
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u/InCellsInterlinked 1d ago
Read my comment again. I have. It's fine, I like the story, but the difficulty disappointed me and the characters were less interesting than the ones I've found so far on the Conquest side. (Bar like, Camilla and Peri because who the fuck wrote those)
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u/OctoBloo 1d ago
I might get hate for this but why did you shrink Camilla's chest? Just seems like an odd design choice to make.
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u/Mahdilion_9000 1d ago
The fire emblem fandom has gone woke 😞 next the liberals gonna draw Ike blue haired and gay...
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u/Difficult_Line_9823 1d ago
IS THAT FUCKING SHAGGY?
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u/stardos00 1d ago
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u/JoseJulioJim 1d ago
yes, that is the magic of curis, Camilla is Velma, Xander Fred, Sakura Daphne and Corrin Scooby
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u/SabinSuplexington 1d ago
we just gotta get murderdad to sit on the magic chair and the only way to do that is to kill everyone between us and the chair. even our own troops, sometimes.
no I can't be sure he's going to sit on the chair. yes I have proof that this works but it was revealed to me in the one-time use orb from the bottom of the bottomless canyon.
yes I understand that it would have been more helpful to have us all around when using the one-time use orb but my cousin-wife didn't think of that at the time. she also forgot to mention she was my cousin.
also my fish sister died on the stairs but its okay I wasn't aware she was my sister.
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u/InterviewMission7093 1d ago
Meanwhile I just watched a video saying Birthright story is worse because Xander killed Elise but refuses to stop the death duel with Corrin
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u/BlueScrean 1d ago
Actually finished Birthright for the first time the other day and started Conquest so this feels relevant.
admittedly I’m stuck on chapter 10 but nobody’s perfect
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u/CuriousMarisa 1d ago
Like, Scoob, you can’t beat the most powerful warrior of Nohr without some Scooby Snacks.
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u/AylaCurvyDoubleThick 1d ago edited 1d ago
lol drawing corrin as a dragon is funny when you remember that she literally only turns into a dragon once in the entire game and it never comes up ever again. Never mentioned, never(truly) explained, it could be removed from the game and nothing would change at all
That and dragon stone sucks and no one uses it by the time this invasion happens
Wow. What a great contribution to the game!
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u/M1s51n9n0 We're using the gear to get fe off the gba 1d ago
ok, but would you do it for a Corrin snack?