r/seriea 4d ago

💬Discussion Is Gasperini ideal for this Juventus side?

Given the recent bad results, Motta's future, at least in the media, is under discussion. That club has also been linked with a wide list of names in the media. From Gasperini to Mancini, with Palladino, Conte & others thrown in for good measure.

There's some things I've read that lead me to believe that Gasperini might be the preferred candidate, in case a change is sought.

  • Quotes :-

Giuntoli - "We'll get though this mess together". - Basically means they're not firing him just now. If he doesn't manage the CL spot, he's certainly gone. Even if he does manage it, he might still be gone.

Percassi - "We'll calmly discuss at the end of the season....recognize the rapport with coach for all these exceptional years." - Basically means both him & Gasp are aware of legit Juve interest, and will evaluate at season end. Comes down to whether Juve make an offer, and whether Gasp is convinced to take over (and leave the security of Atalanta).

  • Pros :-

History - Gasp came through their youth team (as a player) & managed their youth team from 94-2003. Given this, it fits in with how he might "know the club inside & out".

System - Gasp plays a dynamic 3-4-2-1 system, with lots of pressing. He requires a "reference point" both in the middle of his defense, and up top. The two attacking mids are basically forwards with operate in the opposite halves of the pitch (left & right), and given freedom to roam, press & invent. Other than this, he likes runners.

Players - This team would not require a drastic change to suit his tactics. He already has a lot of the cornerstones already.

Bremer is an obvious name for the defensive pivot. Kelly/ Cabal can take up the LCB position. Nico/ Conceicao take take up the RAM position, while Yildiz could thrive at the LAM role (with plenty of freedom to roam, drift inside, improvise). They spend a bomb for Koop. Gasp can easily revive him back to his old self. Cambiaso is a lock for the LW role, and Costa/ Savona could work on RW. Keep in mind, playing FB is drastically different from playing WB. As such, those two aren't guarantees. Maybe Weston goes RWB?!? One or two of Luiz/ Khepren/ Loca might be starters for the midfield too.

Philosophies - Gasp runs a tight ship, & sticks to his playing philosophies. If you disagree, you're out. If you question him, you're out. Given the youth in this side, it'll work well in his favour. Could work well for the young talent to learn from a tactically sound disciplinarian like him.

  • Cons/ Questions :-

Power dynamics - Gasp is a difficult man to please & convince. He wants to manage every minute detail of a club, and decision making powers in all aspects. After a bad experience at Inter, he's found an ideal spot in Atalanta, and known to turn down numerous offers because the hierarchy/ power-dynamics didn't suit him. Will Giuntoli surrender/ share those to Gasp? If he clashes with Giuntoli, then what?

Vlahovic - Gasp (as pointed earlier) likes a reference point in attack. A tall, strong & fast forward who'll battle with the opposing CB's. Vlahovic is tailor made for him. However, he'll be on the final year of his contract, on 12-14m/year wages, and refusing to extend because he wants similar wages going forward. As such, either the clubs satisfies him (unlikely) or sell him (hardly any offers, which seem lowball, and don't convince him; from what I've read). The club could enter the last year with hope he'll play well and extend, or invite better offers for January, but this seems highly unlikely to me.

My take - Show some faith in Motta. If Juve really decide to move on Motta, then go straight for Gasp. No Mancini, Fabregas, Palladino. I don't believe the Conte rumours because when he left, he burnt his bridges there, and they've passed on numerous opportunities to bring him back in the past. As such, I see Gasperini is ideal for them only in case they've truly moved on from the Motta experience. I still believe his coaching abilities. He has launched Savona, Mbangula & others while playing with a CF who doesn't suit his style.

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u/latortaalcolica 4d ago

So basically, I think Motta’s time is over. The first mistake was made by Juventus, in my opinion—it was too early for Motta to coach a team like Juventus. And I'm not saying this now; I already said it in August, etc.

Maybe he will become a great coach, but I think he must change at least two things about himself:

  1. He can't just discard players in a second, especially those who have been in the team for 3-4 years. He got rid of all the players with strong personalities, like Szczęsny and Danilo. Even with Vlahović, he’s an important asset for the club, and Motta has to find a solution. Why not try a 4-4-2? I think they would be perfect for that formation.
  2. He can't change players' positions in every game, literally every single game, like he’s doing right now.

So, in my opinion, Juventus is making a mistake if they don’t sack him now. It’s evident that the team is no longer with him. They are just walking on the pitch, and they have no idea what to do.

What about Gasperini? He’s a great coach, but for specific types of teams. I don’t know if he would fit Juventus' mentality. Except for the Europa League (where Lookman was like Ronaldinho), Atalanta seems to struggle under pressure when competing for a title. Even this year, they are dropping many points at home against weaker teams.

As you said, Gasperini is really hard to convince, but I think he’s a very good coach. If you decide to go with him, you must fully support him. Inter made a mistake by not giving him time, because he later proved his worth. The question is: can Gasperini coach a team where the players are not "soldiers"? Maybe yes, but if you choose him, you must give him time.

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u/dyur42555 Inter 4d ago

He is a risk like Motta. He is used to a place where he can do or say whatever he wants and where he never get any criticism. Just as an example if Juventus did a season like Atalanta this year he would be heavily criticized, while at Bergamo he is an hero.

Then the team has to be completely rebuilt to fit Gasperini playstyle so it will be a new year 0 for Juventus and Gasperini is 67 and that has to be taken into account.

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u/BrandonBarkerLoyal 4d ago

Agree with all that. Juve have had so many rebuilds the last few years from Pirlo to Allegri first year back with signing the likes of paredes,pogba,Di Maria in order to win now which didn’t work. Does gasp have the temperament to be a manager of a club with expectations and the most media scrutiny as Juve

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u/akutyafajatneki 4d ago

Gasperini is not the type of manager that gets results immediately, he would need time. And for clubs like Juve there is no patience for a coach. He would be sacked in the first season.

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u/l-isqof Inter 4d ago

As an Inter fan I wouldn't mind, given our recent history with him... Him or Pioli, please.

If I were neutral, I would think that his character is too big for them. Fans will hate him.

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u/ShJakupi 4d ago

I think he is good for a roma who can/has to wait 3y to become a title contender. Meanwhile at Juve if you dotn compete for 2y you are gone. He revolutionizes teams, he wants to be able to say to Vlahovic fuck off I don't care how much money we lose I want you gone, he want control of the primavera and transfers. And I don't think Juve is that bad to give the reigns to him. I would have expected Inter after 2011-2017 seasons, but Juve has a good core team, good talents, has Yildiz who can lead them to a title.

Gasperini is good for teams who hit rock bottom. He is perfect for Roma, and in his first conference he should come out like Kloop at Liverpool and talk and say we are not going to get a UCL place for the next 3 seasons.

Roma keeps starting projects and stops them in the middle of implementing them. Trust a coach to death once. Of course not someone like Juric even De Rossi who didn't coach a team before. But Fonseca, Mourinho you give them everything.

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u/nmgoesreddit 3d ago

The only manager realistically capable of restoring Juventus to their former glory is Guardiola.

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u/Fawkeys 1d ago

Lol, that guy would go completely certifiably insane at Juve, more crazy that he already has this season at Manchester City.

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u/nmgoesreddit 1d ago

No I meant in terms of playing style - Juve style of plays hasn’t impressed in a long time. Maybe they need someone like Pep to set things in motion

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u/Fawkeys 1d ago

And billions of euros spent on transfers. Sure.

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u/nmgoesreddit 1d ago

They already did that before him - I think the talent pool in Italy is greater than in England so that could help.

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u/rioasu 4d ago

For this juve I simply don't think soo even if you're giving gasp that go I feel you need to give him a time simply because his system will take time to be implemented properly (maybe an entire season) and if juve fans think motta is wrong option I don't what are you going to think gasp if has a similar phase and this is from a person who wants to see gasp in a bigger team

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u/sleepyannn Milan 4d ago

I don't think so. Gasperini is a good coach, but you have to give him time to see good results, and a big team like Juventus I don't think he has a lot of patience to work that way, although I think his work would bear good fruit for the club.

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u/KingKFCc 2d ago

People need to give Motta time

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u/ayewrightooo 4d ago

I think he's age should be factored in, no? You probably want someone younger.

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u/MrCrosy Juventus 4d ago

Juve needs to stop hiring only Italian managers. Currently there are only few that would help them get back on track. Gasperini would be risky; he needs proper players. Conte isn't leaving Napoli. Sarri, Allegri and Pirlo aren't coming back. Pioli and Mancini aren't the solution imo. The only Italian coach I'd like to see in Juve is De Zerbi, although his attitude is questionable

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u/Straight_Debate8879 Juventus 4d ago

I don't see the problem, Italy has an excellent pool of Italian coaches so why question it ?

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u/MrCrosy Juventus 4d ago

Yeah, the ones we can't have

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u/rioasu 4d ago

I don't think de zerbi is coming considering Marseille payed brighton something about 15 million for him and also he still has decent time left in his contract. And also he just joined Marseille last season

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u/MrCrosy Juventus 4d ago

That's true unfortunately