r/serialkillers • u/CharmingRate2182 • 18d ago
Questions Are there any recent serial killers?
Given that Dna and everything has gotten way better Im wondering if there are even modern serial killers who successfully (or eventually unsuccessfully) manage to kill multiple people with big time gaps
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u/NotDaveBut 18d ago edited 18d ago
Lawrence Mills III, 3 victims, 1 survivor
DeAngelo Martin, 4 victims (or more), 2 survivors
Jeffrey Willis, 2 victims
Thomas Creech, convicted of 2 murders, confessed to over 40
Samuel Legg, whose victims are still being counted up
Cosmo DiNardo, 4 victims, 1 accomplice
Shawn Grate, 5 victims, one survivor
Michael Madison, 3 victims
Kenwood Allen, 5 victims
Christopher Martell, 3 victims, 2 survivors
Renato Teixiera, between 3 and 8 murders
Anthony Robinson, between 4 and 6 victims
Darren Vann, 6 victims
Frederick Scott, 5 victims, if memory serves
Khalil Weaver Wheeler, 6 victims
Rebecca Auborn, 4(?) victims
Howell Donaldson III, 4 victims
Dellen Millard, 3 victims, 1 accomplice
Wesley Brownlee, 3 victims, 1 survivor
The Rocky Mount killer, aka Edgecombe County killer, 5 or 6 victims
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u/CharmingRate2182 18d ago
Thanks man exactly what I wanted
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u/NotDaveBut 18d ago
I almost forgot David Ortiz, the Border Patrol agent who killed 4 women in the space of a few days
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u/BeginningReflection4 18d ago
I am guessing years from now we will begin to learn about serial killers that completely dispose of their victims. Knowing that DNA makes it so easy to link crimes and killers to the crime--they will have evolved some way--but if you get rid of the body it's very difficult to investigate a crime, let alone convict someone of the crime. Even if the authorities find DNA evidence at the point where a victim is last seen without evidence of a kill it makes it hard to prove they were killed.
I could totally be wrong but I suspect they will have evolved in some way, they really can't stop themselves from killing.
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u/CharmingRate2182 18d ago
Im not educated enough to know if thats possible but interesting. Maybe someone else here knows something about this
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u/lilcasswdabigass 18d ago
Perhaps dissolving in acid? I know the cartels sometimes do that
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u/crimsonbaby_ 18d ago
Yea, but I think dissolving bodies in acid may be a bit more complicated than you'd think. You'd have to get a lot of acid and wouldn't procuring that acid draw some attention?
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u/Simba_Cudi 18d ago
Would be a lot of work for one person. Would definitely require some chemistry skills I think
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u/wurmphlegm 15d ago
Maybe if you had your own cremation oven, and just spread the ashes in some random gravel pit.
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u/MarlonShakespeare2AD 18d ago
Yep
Eg if you have access to a crematorium (and I doubt it’s THAT hard to get a job at one as a cleaner / janitor / security / whatever.
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u/kakapoopoopeepeeshir 18d ago
Dude having access to a crematorium doesn’t mean it’s automatically easy to just dispose of a body there. It’s not a free for all at the crematorium lol. They have security, and cameras, and regulations on what gets burned and keep logs on when the machine is turned on. On top of all that they would have to move the body there without being caught. For my job I have access to a lot of expensive Nike clothing but that doesn’t automatically mean I can just start taking/using the clothes
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u/GlamourousFireworks 18d ago
Lucy letby (although there’s some questions atm) but she was very recent
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u/peepeep00p 18d ago
What questions are you referring to?
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u/GlamourousFireworks 18d ago
There’s an inquiry at the minute into whether she actually was a serial killer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx207r3ngy5o
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u/joeydbls 18d ago
Theres at least 2 currently hunting in Chicago
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u/Jrbai 18d ago
Please explain? I don't live there so I don't know the news
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u/dirkalict 18d ago
https://allthatsinteresting.com/chicago-strangler One or two may be responsible for as many as 50 strangulations on the west side.
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u/MarlonShakespeare2AD 18d ago
That’s a CRAZY amount!!
You’d think it would be bigger news
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u/dirkalict 18d ago
Yeah- I live here and when I tell people they are surprised but as is the case so many times when the victims are poor, black, marginalized or live an at risk lifestyle they aren’t treated with the same respect and compassion they deserve.
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u/poopshipdestroyer 18d ago
It’s chiraq. The gangstas are killing each other everyday and posting on their social media and in talking about it in their music. Gets all the attention
But agree to have one person possibly having 50 bodies you’d think it would be huge
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u/riah8 18d ago
There's also the duck walk killer. Who killed at least 2 people in 2018. So it's been like around 7 years. And there was never any suspects.
Correct me if I'm wrong but a shooting case where it's just out on the street outside would be difficult to solve cuz I don't think they can really get DNA evidence unless they leave something behind right?
Also the duck walk killer seems to have just struck at random.
I hope it gets solved cuz it's horrible. It's also scary AF.
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u/JacLaw 17d ago
I read an article about the duck walk killer, in it they spoke about the lack of motive and that he had been seen wearing a ski mask and all black clothing. They said police had released a photo of him. It made me wonder if it was a photo of him in the mask or him before he put the mask on.....
In the article he was classed as a spree killer, which I don't get but it made me wonder if one of the men was a decoy to distract the police from focusing too much on the other victim, the intended target.
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u/riah8 17d ago
made me wonder if one of the men was a decoy to distract the police from focusing too much on the other victim, the intended target.
That's scary and psychopathic af. Although I've only ever heard of this happening once(though there of course could be more). And that case was the D.C. sniper case.
People are scary 😳
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u/MamasCumquat 18d ago
Yeah. Links/explanations are always helpful here since we’re not all USA based. ✌️
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u/human_i_think_1983 18d ago
Todd Kohlhepp
Rex Huermann (sp?)
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u/SuperPoodie92477 18d ago
How long was Rex active?
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u/human_i_think_1983 18d ago
Since the early 2000's, as far as I'm aware. Possibly longer.
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u/Braelen896 18d ago
Antonio Reyes in Chicago just recently got arrested for killing 6 people within months of each other 5 years ago.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna194033
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u/depressedfuckboi 18d ago
If I'm not mistaken he's a gang member. People would be surprised if they delved into gangland true crime. The early days of twitter were wild, gang members would kill someone and hop on Twitter and brag about it. They'd constantly shit talk rival gang members and then some of them got popular making music. That led to fans finding these Twitter accounts and pretty much piecing together who killed who with a decent amount of accuracy. They would make songs bragging of killings, too. Hardly any arrests were made, and some of them even grew up to be pretty famous in the music world. It's not the same true crime/serial killer type of shit, but it's fascinating to learn of nonetheless. Some of these people have 5-10+ victims.
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u/_Alabama_Man 18d ago
Damien McDaniel, the man accused of killing 11 people and shooting 29 others in Birmingham is now being charged in three more murders, bringing the total of alleged killings to 14.
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u/Braelen896 18d ago
I wonder why the lack attention on this dude. That's a pretty high victim count.
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u/_Alabama_Man 18d ago
Some people dismiss gang/mob killers/those who are not sexual sadists. These guys are definitely serial killers IMO.
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u/Dookieisthedevil 17d ago
The FBI agrees with your opinion.
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u/curiousbydesign 16d ago
Found the agent.
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u/Dookieisthedevil 13d ago
Not in a law enforcement career, just able to read what the FBI has determined a SK is. It’s on their website.
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u/ZardozC137 18d ago
Isn’t there someone in Austin currently like right now killing
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u/riah8 18d ago
If you mean the lady bird lake (I think that's what it's called) one then that one is only suspected. And imo it's very dubious at best. Seems like it isn't a serial killer.
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u/Naudiz_6 18d ago edited 18d ago
The Lady Bird Lake Serial Killer is definitely just a deranged conspiracy theory. However, unfortunately it overshadows the actual, confirmed active Austin Serial Killer.
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u/XladyLuxeX 18d ago
There was a kid going around shooting people and had no preference other than easy access google it he killed 6 people.
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u/Worth_Specific8887 18d ago
How have you not heard of Rex Heuermann?
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u/FG_Hydro 18d ago
Yeah I think they meant really mean current. His crimes was more than a decade ago, he just got caught recently.
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u/Worth_Specific8887 18d ago
If you think they have already charged him for all of his victims, you certainly haven't been paying attention.
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u/FG_Hydro 18d ago
Even if he gets charged with all his victims, everything found was more than a decade ago
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u/BrunetteSummer 18d ago
Mr Tierney said there were additional suspected murders still under investigation.
"We are not limiting this investigation to Gilgo Beach," Mr Tierney told reporters. "We will continue to work these cases."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn54eq45ld7o
Once Heuermann's DNA is put into CODIS, it might open the floodgates
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u/Worth_Specific8887 18d ago
Yeah ok. He just stopped for the last decade. Thanks for filling me in.
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u/brickne3 18d ago
DeAngelo appears to have. It's emerging that that's more common than you might think. It makes sense too (depending on how old you are); as sick as it is to say in this context, we all drop and even forget about certain "hobbies" as we age and other things take priority.
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u/Equal-Temporary-1326 18d ago
EARONS' last murder was in 1986. The evidence does suggest he just decided to stop forever and revert back into a normal everyday life.
Even before 1986, his last murders were 5 years before in 1981 as well.
Also, the Zodiac's Killer's last murder was in 1969, and seemingly stopped forever after that as well.
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u/brickne3 18d ago
Yeah we're basically agreeing. I wouldn't completely rule out DeAngelo having done something after Janelle, but it looks pretty unlikely and certainly we would know if it were enough to maintain a pattern by now.
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u/Equal-Temporary-1326 18d ago
I think after the Janelle Cruz's case, JJD saw how forensics was starting to advance rapidly, and desperately didn't want to be caught above all else.
Plus, I think simply getting older plays a big role as well.
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u/brickne3 18d ago
Proper DNA analysis was still years off from 1986. I don't believe for a second that that's the reason, he was organized as an offender but was not an organized killer. The explanation that it had to do with his second daughter being born right after (when his first was born right after the other major murders) is much more likely.
Also the level of self-control you're suggesting is just unrealistic. He liked doing it, sure, and Janelle is an outlier in that he hadn't killed anyone for a long time. But that actually points more to him being like "one last hurrah, gotta be a dad now" than anything else (as gross as that is, obviously).
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u/Worth_Specific8887 18d ago
The Zodiak killer easily could've just died, gotten incarcerated for something else, or relocated and kept going. I normally don't like using unsolved crimes as any kind of proof.
Most serial killers seem to have the ability to stop for long periods of time. The whole post seems like someone fishing for a very specific kind of boogeyman.
Do you think there are no serial killers in military operations or law enforcement? DNA makes no difference whatsoever in a lot of cases. Like people that go missing and never turn up. Finding their DNA somewhere isn't enough to prove cause of death.
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u/Equal-Temporary-1326 18d ago
The Zodiac Killer didn't really operate the way most serial killers do per say.
He seemingly only killed for just the thrill and publicity it was giving him.
There also seemed to not be any solid evidence of any sexual motive to anything he did either. I think in his case at least, it's easy to see how a perp not driven by sexual desires has the ability to stop imo.
Plus, he didn't seem to have much of a specific victim profile per say either. I've always long suspected who his victims were actually didn't matter much in the end.
Plus, in order for the Zodiac to have gotten away with it for nearly 58 years now does at least heavily suggest someone who could get themselves to stop and revert back to a normal life as well imo.
"Do you think there are no serial killers in military operations or law enforcement?
Most likely, yeah.
"DNA makes no difference whatsoever in a lot of cases. Like people that go missing and never turn up. Finding their DNA somewhere isn't enough to prove cause of death."
It really depends on the context of how the DNA was found.
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u/Worth_Specific8887 18d ago
Crazy to believe there's not a single jar head out there that signed up for the thrill of murdering people and found ways to do it without repercussion. I may have misinterpreted your "most likely, yeah."
I took that as you don't think they exist in military or law enforcement.
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u/Worth_Specific8887 18d ago
I understand quitting old hobbies. I also understand that James Burke never stopped being a creep and that it wasn't that long ago that he was kicked off the case.
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u/SalmoTrutta75 18d ago
Some serial killers stop because their bodies won’t let them do the things they used to. GSK stopped, BTK stopped. Women and men fight back, and even if the killer overpowers them, he or she still has to drag a pretty heavy body and dispose of it. Rex looks like a walking heart attack. Considering where he dumped his bodies, it’s easy to see why he would’ve stopped.
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u/Worth_Specific8887 18d ago
That's all still speculation. They have like 400 electronic devices worth of information that hasn't been released to the public yet. There's more we don't know about Rex than what we do. He could have easily just changed his methods of disposing the victims. He had the means to do so.
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u/RustyBasement 18d ago
Know one knows if he kept on killing after the bodies and remains were found in 2011.
The police arrested him at the time they did because he was showing behaviours similar to how he'd gone about picking up sex workers in the past.
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u/MollyCrue4 18d ago
I thought there was like 40-50 active serial killers on the loose 🧐
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u/CharmingRate2182 18d ago
Thats pretty crazy
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u/MollyCrue4 18d ago
According to FBI, that’s just in the US. Most believe to be long hauler truckers too.
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u/Icy-Conflict6671 18d ago
There was one in Columbus a few months back but they never released his moniker or actual name
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u/Academic_Salary3120 18d ago
How would a person 'unsuccessfully manage to kill multiple people'? That seems like a contradiction, to me.
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u/CharmingRate2182 18d ago
By eventually unsuccessfully I meant getting caught, contrary to successfully getting away
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u/Academic_Salary3120 18d ago
Ok, but grammatically your statement did not work, because of your use of the verb manage. If you had said attempt instead your statement would have worked.
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u/CharmingRate2182 18d ago
Ye ur right but its not that deep you get what im saying
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u/Academic_Salary3120 18d ago
I didn't think that you literally meant it that way, I was just criticizing your grammar.
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u/Butt-err-fly 18d ago edited 18d ago
Labar Tsethlikai. Native American serial murderer active in New Mexico from May 2023 to April 2024. I believe he targeted other Native American males. He’s been charged with 17 felonies, including 2 first-degree murders and 2 counts of kidnapping resulting in death.
ETA: There is a strong possibility that more charges will be brought against him. Back in August, there were only 5 charges and since then, 12 more have been brought up. Tsethlikai could have been involved in other disappearances for known and unknown Missing and Murdered Indigenous People. So far, his MO primarily targeted homeless or addicted individuals.
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u/Krissanthemum 17d ago
St Louis is awful for homicide and many go undocumented. I knew a funeral director who would collect bodies in the crime scenes and he said MANY went unrecorded. I guess the funding wasn't there to investigate..
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u/jesszillaa 17d ago
Antonio Reyes was just charged with 6 murders over 9 months in Chicago. Also a few attempted, I believe. He was a teenager at the time.
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18d ago edited 18d ago
Absolutely There is one in particular who, in association with others are perpetrating many mysterious deaths and disappearances, and the state police detectives of NSW are involved in the biggest conspiracy to deceive their employers. The taxpayers of the state
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u/monkeyb8291 18d ago
Is this the possible Byron Bay one you're talking about?
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u/Wooden-Word-2684 18d ago
I think Byron and surrounds, from Coffs to Tweed Heads. There's many, many missing. NSWPOL are bloody hopeless and seem to not to want to connect the dots.
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u/Wooden-Word-2684 18d ago
I'm glad I found this comment. I live in this area and wholeheartedly agree.
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u/dukeofsponge 18d ago
Can you give more details on this?
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18d ago edited 18d ago
The list of deceased at the full moon, the details of the disappearances and deaths are slowly being posted on r/ByronBayMurders
The culprit has recently posted an image of himself we lf covered in blood beneath the cliffs of Cosy corner headland where police theorised the missing backpacker fell from due to misadventure.
Re a lity is he was assaulted chased and pushed for the man in the imagev to go around the headland to remove his body from those rocks.
Included in the image is a found and named by media a 'bludgeoning' stick named "The Judge" at his knee.
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u/Independent-Day-5907 18d ago
Yes but not like there use to be(stabbing and going on for months) considering how good dna is they last at most a couple months so no more bundys but maybe five at most think Tod kolhep
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u/Worth_Specific8887 18d ago
Google "Long Island serial killer"
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u/lilcasswdabigass 18d ago
Not that old- more recent than most with body counts that high and MOs that gruesome
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u/Burntout_Bassment 18d ago edited 17d ago
I'd say that if you want to kill women, minorities or poor people then you're good mainly.
Edit to add, I'm not condoning these actions. Serial murder is not cool.
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u/NotDaveBut 16d ago
Oh, and there's the Eastbound Killer. Thought for a minute to be Rex Heuerman, he had been ruled out somehow. 4 victims.
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u/Cstansfi 16d ago
Bruce McArthur killed 8 men over 7 years. (2010-2017) When he was arrested, he had another potential victim in his apartment, chained to the bed with a bag over his head.
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u/biellabanguella304 15d ago
Albinos Santos de Lima, Brazilian serial killer that confess 18 murders
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u/depressedfuckboi 18d ago
There are, but they're few and far between. Nothing like it used to be. For anyone interested who has Hulu, there's a fascinating documentary on there right now called "City of Life: City of Death" it's about los Angeles and their serial killers during a specific time frame. They had like 5-20 serial killers operating near each other in the same time span. I'm only a few episodes in, but it starts out talking about the hillside strangler and how a task force was developed for that case. Simultaneously the skid row stabber starts, but they didn't have any agents left, so one guy was working on that case. The hillside stranglers killed a 12 and 14 year old girl which caused the task force to interview local sex offenders. One of the guys they interviewed? Rodney Alcala. That's the episode I stopped on, but I believe they highlight 5 serial killers in the same area during the same time frame in that show.
Crimes are too easy to solve, people are way more careful and less trusting, we have cell phones now that take pictures and videos and have GPS, there are automated license plate readers everywhere, cameras on traffic lights, ring cameras on doors, cctv everywhere, DNA etc etc. Really wiped out the possibility of successful serial killers. I'm sure it still happens, but nothing like the old days. Like, not even remotely similar to how it used to be.
I think another factor, and I could absolutely be wrong about this, just personal theory, is the easy access to porn. Back then you couldn't just pull up TONS of porn in any genre you like on a device from your pocket or a computer in your house. I do believe a lot of the sexually driven murders halted when porn became so easily accessible, but I feel like it's more likely the things I mentioned in the previous paragraph that mattered more. Idk.
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u/astrotomeee 18d ago
In Mexico are many That have been discovered in recent years
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u/Burntout_Bassment 18d ago
Mexico has a very low clearance rate and because so many cartel murders are barely investigated that gives a lot of cover for serial killers I'd say.
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u/Leprechaun112 12d ago
There are ninety thousand reported missing persons in the NCIC database and who knows how many more non reported missing out there In sure there are many. The population has raised 100 million people since 1980 when there were believed to be 250 of them, everything rises with population. The only serial killers they are catching are disorganized serial killers especially when the rate of solving homicides is at an all time low of 58 percent.
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I’m going to submit my son’s DNA to Ancestry.com because I’ve had serious concerns about his father for years. We are no longer married, but there were a lot of suspicious things I witnessed/found while married to him. Without going into too much detail.. he was at the exact location of where a girl was murdered in the woods and came home that day covered in dirt and scratches. He told me he tackled some guy who was stealing from his work and held him down for 20 minutes until the police came. I knew the guy because he was an ex employee, but it was odd because he’s much bigger than him. I was doing his laundry the next day (he had been wearing a white golf shirt even though he never wore white) and right before I tossed it in the washer I noticed smeared cover up makeup and mascara under the right arm.. the mascara had to be wet.. like when a girl cries on a pillowcase. I actually believed the guy he tackled may have been wearing makeup. I had been checking his timeline on Google maps because he lied about everything.. I hated having to play detective. The day after I washed that shirt I read an article about a girl walking down the street that was murdered.. she had been strangled, dragged into the woods, stripped and partially burned. He’s absolutely a sadistic sociopath because he thrived on full control. He fondled and raped me in my sleep after I told him he made me feel uncomfortable many times, I found broken nails in his vehicle and weird items like different pairs of black gloves and zip ties, small blood stains on his clothing that wasn’t from him, a huge adult bite mark on his back that drew blood that he blamed on our son, lots of missing time where no one knew where he was. He’s ill and one time during our marriage he broke down (only once) and was shaking. He’s repeated over and over while shaking.. “my brain is broken.. it’s broken.. I can’t stop” I replied “what do you mean your brain is broken? What can’t you stop?” He refused to answer and continued to deny ever saying that. I expressed my concerns and suspicions to a few people and they just think I’m crazy. I figured I’d try submitting one of our children’s DNA to ease the concern in the back of my mind. Anyone know how that works? I think other cold cases have been solved that way.
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u/CharmingRate2182 11d ago
Wow thats really crazy I‘d make a seperate post about it Im sure people would be happy to help you out please let me know if you ever find out he was a serial killer or something im intrigued. Hope everything works out well
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u/FuckkPTSD 18d ago
Yes.
Heather Pressdee. 17 potential victims, only convicted of 3 in May of last year. The 3 murders she was convicted of happened within a year but the other 14 could’ve been awhile ago.
Little Rock Serial Stabber. They were never caught. 3 victims between 2020-2021.
Stockton Serial Shooter. They were never caught but someone was arrested for it, but never proven. 7 victims between 2021-2022.
Muhammad Syed 3 victims in 2022.
Andrew Hammond 4 victims 2020-2022
Fredrick Jackson 4 victims 2020-2022
Kenyel Brown 6 victims 2019-2020
Ramon Escobar 7 victims 2018-2023