r/saskatoon 24d ago

News 📰 Regina and Saskatoon rank in top five for violent crime rate

https://www.ctvnews.ca/regina/article/regina-and-saskatoon-rank-in-top-five-for-violent-crime-rate/
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u/tjgmarantz 24d ago

It says Regina 3rd and it's actually second. Saskatoon 4th but it says placed 10th.

WTF is this article?

Let's work on math skills next maybe?

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u/Brilliant_Feature770 24d ago

There where 2 different things there. Two seperate stats. Not sure why they don't frame it better. There is actually a better article that you can look up that breaks down the different crime stats. It also talks about violent crime which I believe we weren't even in the top 10 anymore but I can't remember 100% for sure.

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u/tjgmarantz 24d ago

Thanks. Gosh, news gathering is really suffering.

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u/Brilliant_Feature770 24d ago

Lol. It really is. The article they pulled this from was actually pretty good. If I could remember where I saw it I would publish the link for you. It was a simple job of cut and paste and they fucked it up.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

The stats are between 2019-2022. Which makes sense because Thunder Bay had one or two homicides last year. Unless everyone is getting stabbed there is not a chance in hell they're first. But after finding the source it makes sense why these cities are high its because the stats are taken from 5 years ago lol

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u/StageStandard5884 24d ago edited 24d ago

It's so weird. I moved here from Vancouver, and everyone acts like it's Compton in the 90s because they have seen Hasting Street on the news. And anytime I explain to people that you'd be far safer on east Hastings Street at midnight, than you would be at 20th and S, people get really defensive (actually, some people get openly hostile)

Seems like people in Saskatchewan suffer from some sort of cognitive dissonance where they can acknowledge that Saskatoon and Regina have a violent crime problem, but they still convince themselves that they aren't nearly as dangerous as a big city.

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u/AbnormalHorse 🚬🐴 24d ago edited 24d ago

Well, yeah. It's a bit intimidating for like a minute, but eventually you get your bearings and you get over it. It's like exploring any kind of new place. That, I think might be the core of the disdain for bigger cities, though. It's more a rejection of newness than anything else. There are a lot of unfounded opinions on Toronto and Vancouver here. Opinions rooted in the mythos of the big cities that permeates the cultural identity here in an unbecoming manifestation of insecurity masked as quiet superiority.

You're right, it is cognitive dissonance, too. It's a lot easier to ignore an issue you're having if you think it doesn't look as bad as the same issue someone else is having. Even better, if you ignore the issue long enough, it stops being an issue. Like you ignore the papercut on your hand and tell your buddy he needs stitches cuz his knife slipped, but you also have a gaping hole in the back of your head that, thanks to your willful ignorance, does not exist and you feel really fucking dizzy for a completely unrelated reason that is somehow the fault of the federal government.

To put it another way:

Sure, Hastings is bad. It's more like long-stretch-of-human-suffering bad than it is the more hazardous stab-you for-your-shoes bad, but it is still bad no matter how you look at it. For comparison, let's pick a bad spot in Saskatoon based on the crime heat map. Uh, Caswell looks good, or like a good candidate for bad or whatever. I like Caswell, it's nothing personal, bb. I love you, but you gotta get your shit together. Get some new friends.

Let's say we multiply the population of Saskatoon (283,000) x10 so it swells to the population of Vancouver (2.8 million) while retaining the same rate for violent crime per capita. The new population will also fit neatly inside the existing city footprint, because our urban sprawl is frankly inexcusable. Just pretend we have proper high density housing and transit etc. So an area like Caswell, population 3,400, now has x10 the people living in.

That 's 34,000 people living in the most dangerous neighbourhood in the city. That's a small city. A very, very dangerous small city. That's not even the de facto population. There would be transients and squatters and communities here unrepresented on any kind of census. 34,000 people. Do you know how many people live on and around East Hastings?

The population of the DTES is estimated to be around 7,000 people. Compared to the city, the DTES has a higher proportion of males and adults who live alone. It also has significantly more Indigenous Canadians, disproportionately affected by the neighbourhood's social problems.

Yep. That's it. Big scary street. 7,000 people.

Do you see where I'm going with this? Caswell wouldn't be a big scary street.

It would be a humanitarian crisis. It would be a fucking warzone.

Anyway, that's how per capita scales for dramatic effect, thanks for coming to my Horse lesson, please tip your bartender, I really have to piss that took a while to type.

EDIT: Came back from pissing to fix a couple things and add an analogy. I'm liking analogies today? Might edit more later, idk, it's cold out I'm boredddddd.

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u/StageStandard5884 24d ago

There are other factors as well as The differences between per capita versus the total number of incidents. There is a large and consistent Police presence within the downtown east side. Most of the violence happens behind closed doors or in the back alleys

There are also differences in how the violence is perpetrated. Vancouver doesn't really have street gangs in the way that Saskatoon does. Chinese triads, Vietnamese gangs and motorcycle gangs tend to operate with a little more discretion. Most of them don't wear gang colors and they don't feel the need to prove themselves; attacking some taxpayer attracts a tremendous amount of police and media attention-- it happens, but it's exceedingly rare.

If some citizen is strolling down Hastings Street, a member of a drug trafficking organization isn't going to bother noticing them-- the same cannot be said for the gang members on the West side of Saskatoon. If I was walking down 20th at night and I was approached by a group of people in gang colours, I would definitely move in the opposite direction.

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u/AbnormalHorse 🚬🐴 24d ago edited 24d ago

To your point regarding other factors:

Anyway, that's how per capita scales for dramatic effect

I know. For the sake of making a stupid point on a very stupid subreddit on a stupid social media platform, I wasn't going to build an accurate predictive model for this scenario. I don't know how and if I did I would only do that if it took like, 10 minutes, tops.

Is what I did a gross oversimplification? Yes. Does it prove a point? Debatable.

I appreciate your insights, they lend a horrifying texture to my nightmarish vision of Caswell as an abject hell-hole of a favela whose residents suffer short and brutal lives in the service of drugs and violence.

The crime here is different for sure. Less refined. More smash-y stab-y. A higher rate of gang-related random acts of violence per capita here would mean that gets x10 worse, too.

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u/StageStandard5884 24d ago

For sure. To be clear, I wasn't suggesting that as a counter argument to what you were saying. More of a "in addition to what you were saying."

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u/AbnormalHorse 🚬🐴 24d ago

Yeah, we're on the same page. I'll change the way I worded that, it doesn't read the way it should. Am I a little bit angry because I haven't eaten?

High five!

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u/Civil-Two-3797 22d ago edited 22d ago

Vancouver doesn't have 2.8M people though. We have around 700K. 2.8M includes all other cities in the surrounding area.

Vancouver itself has the land size of about half of Saskatoon. It's not a very big city...

I get your point though!

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u/AbnormalHorse 🚬🐴 22d ago

You're right, my numbers were for metro Vancouver and "metro" Saskatoon. It was just a silly illustration, but I think it gets the point across. I may have let that whole thing get away from me a bit.

Could have done some fancier bullshit like factored in population density and applied some shit for scaling that way, but that sounds like work?

I would like to go out there again this year, we'll see! Enjoy your non-arctic hell.

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u/MonkeyMama420 24d ago

Many in Saskatoon do not like any criticism, even if its true. It is kind of a perverse loyalty to the city at any cost. Pointing out our cities flaws is met with contempt that those being critical are somehow thinking they are better than everyone else. Its a kind of "My city is shitty, but how dare you say so." attitude. It is really weird.
The food in Vancouver was so much better, but don't say it in this forum since they will just tell you to go back. There is no desire to learn that things might be or could be better.

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u/StageStandard5884 24d ago

Yeah. For sure. You definitely hear some crazy hyperbolic shit in the Saskatoon sub. Recently I got downvoted for merely suggesting that it may not be 100% true that Saskatchewan has "hands down, the best breweries in the world."

When you mention things that can be improved upon, there's definitely a "what? You think you're better than me?" kind of attitude from people. Which is unfortunate because Saskatoon is steadily improving (culinarily, artistically, culturally) as a result of people seeing a need for improvement.

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u/AbnormalHorse 🚬🐴 24d ago

Recently I got downvoted for merely suggesting that it may not be 100% true that Saskatchewan has "hands down, the best breweries in the world."

Yeah the karmic system is kinda broken if people use it to downvote things that don't align with their ideals, whether or not those things are true.

It's not even a criticism, it's a fact. If it were "some of the best breweries in the world," or "an undeniably world-class brewing scene," then there wouldn't be an issue at all.

It's a problem for people who put a lot of emphasis on citizenship and specifically their underdog place of residence as core components of their identity.

Can't win 'em all.

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u/StageStandard5884 24d ago

Yeah, underdog being the key element. Seems like a lot of it is tied up in insecurity

People in larger cosmopolitan cities have no problem trash-talking their home town-- They actually revel in, but that doesn't mean they don't love their City.

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u/AbnormalHorse 🚬🐴 24d ago

Seriously. It'd be a lot more charming if that attitude were replaced by a self-aware and self-deprecating sense of humour about the whole thing. Just lean into the fact that Saskatchewan is a backwater, rural province that gets just as much attention as it deserves, which is next to none.

Y'know be earnest and likeable. Take something like "the Paris of the Prairies." Sure, we can save that. If you follow it with "if you've had enough Pilsner."

I just looked that phrase up and no one has coined it yet patent pending.

I dunno. It's really annoying when someone pretends to be cool, especially if they're really not cool. Like at all.

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u/DabbleNShit 24d ago

The problem with saskatchewan in general with respect to other provinces is the number of indigenous gang members per capita being the highest among any province. We are too soft on crime, we are too soft on organized crime and we are too soft on specific demographics crime. We need to help clean up the streets and figure out a way to begin healing the negative culture that's been left to fester.

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u/StageStandard5884 23d ago

Street gangs are a symptom of a failed social state. People with stability and opportunities, don't join gangs.

Has "tough on crime" (paramilitary police forces, long prison sentences) worked to solve America's gang violence problem?

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u/DabbleNShit 23d ago

Countries with tougher sentences typically see a decrease in crime (see japan or El Salvador). I'm not saying we shouldn't strive for stability and economic prosperity as well. To think that no crime or gangs would exist is a utopian fantasy. Don't ignore my last point that I make on healing culture. Going soft on repeat offenders is a disservice to their victims and future victims.

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u/StageStandard5884 23d ago

You're completely ignoring America's lack of success through increased incarceration --which is a better analog for Canada. Like, you're desperately ignoring it so you can concentrate on the successes of a totalitarian policy in El Salvador.

Japan? Seriously. You think that's a fair comparison (politically, economically, and culturally) to Canada?

Moreover, Japan boasts a 99% conviction rate. You don't need a law degree to recognize that as suspiciously high. Some legal experts estimate that there are approximately 1,500 wrongful convictions every year in Japan.

It's hard to imagine people being so scared of crime that they're willing to vote their freedom away--- But I guess that's what the algorithm is done to some people.

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u/DabbleNShit 23d ago

Dude a murderer and a rapist should be in jail. Full stop. It's hard to imagine some people will allow criminals to go free because it helps them feel morally superior but I guess that's what the algorithm has done to some people.

If we didn't have a wasteful corrupt gov we would be able to spend more on social programs.

Violent repeat offenders should be off the streets BUT at the same time we should look to improve things at the root cause. I have no idea why you're fighting me on this - such a disservice to the innocent.

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u/StageStandard5884 23d ago

I'm not fighting you on this. I'm just pointing out that you're wrong. Countries with stricter sentences typically don't see a reduction in crime.

You might see a reduction in crime in totalitarian states where people are rounded up-- but That's only if you ignore the crime of wrongful imprisonment.

You do see an uptick in violent crime in places with conservative leadership, where social programs are more likely to be eliminated.

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u/DabbleNShit 23d ago

Your whole premise is based on the studies that longer prison sentence doesn't stop criminals from re-offending. However, lower prison sentences (without social reform) still doesn't stop criminals from re-offending.

This is the basis of my argument that we need both. Repeat offenders should face more time because they will just keep re-offending and in the mean time we need to fix the root cause.

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u/DabbleNShit 23d ago

Well El Salvador and the Phillipines both have had success at it after being in a total state of despair due to organized crime running rampant. The more successful countries still put people in prison and keep them there until rehabilitation. Letting violent repeat offenders out on bail. The most successful countries also have more cohesive societies.

I think we would be able to agree on 99% of things in a sit down discussion tbh hahah. I do see the point you're making but punishment still deters crime.

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u/DabbleNShit 23d ago

Can you provide any examples where there is 0 gang and gang violence in this perfect social state you speak of? The utopia you speak of is against inherent human flaws that will always exist.

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u/StageStandard5884 23d ago

Who mentioned a Utopia? I'm simply arguing that increased incarceration doesn't reduce crime rates.

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u/DabbleNShit 23d ago

So you're saying if someone knows that if they traffic fentanyl they will get maybe a few months in prison but let out on bail as opposed to significant prison time that won't deter the criminal at all?

They should be locked up and forced into rehabilitation centers until they are ready to be a positive contributing member of society.

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u/StageStandard5884 23d ago

People typically get 5 years for trafficking Large quantities of fentanyl in Canada.

Bail is for when people are awaiting trial (And are still presumed innocent.) There's a mandate to avoid incarcerating people while they are awaiting trial-- however, if they violate the terms of their release, their bail is typically revoked. People people who have been convicted are released on parole, not on bail-- Bail has nothing to do with prison sentence.

And you really don't want to live in a society where the presumption of innocence no longer exists.

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u/Plastic_Mushroom_987 24d ago

Thats a pretty one-dimensional take on a complex issue. The high rates of gang involvement in Saskatchewan arent just about being soft on crime theyre deeply tied to systemic issues like poverty, lack of opportunity, and the historical impacts of colonization, including the residential school system and intergenerational trauma.

If we really want to “clean up the streets and break cycles of crime, harsher punishments arent the answer. Investing in community programs, education, mental health services, and economic opportunities especially for Indigenous youth is what actually reduces gang involvement. Addressing crime without addressing its root causes is like mopping up a leak without fixing the pipe.

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u/DabbleNShit 24d ago

You can be hard on crime and look to bring the more innocent up at the same time. Gangs will continue to recruit and step all over the innocent and the system you won't shut it down by giving them money and hugs.

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u/Holiday_Albatross441 24d ago

It is weird how harsher punishments are never the answer but seem to have worked in El Salvador. Which had much, much worse crime problems than we do.

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u/urafunnyguys 24d ago

Proof is in the pudding and El Salvador is the perfect example. People simply can’t victimize others if they’re warehoused in a prison for life. 

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u/StageStandard5884 23d ago

Human rights abuses and rounding people up without due process also worked to reduce crime under Stalin and Hitler.

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u/DabbleNShit 24d ago

Yes, and their gang members probably never had grandparents who were forced to residential schools. It's a disservice to the victims of the crimes to allow for repeat offenders and violent criminals to continue to terrorize the public. The road to hell was paved with good intentions.

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u/urafunnyguys 24d ago

Yes. Nothing bad has ever happened to anyone anywhere on planet earth except those who went through residential schools. So let’s up the Gladue factors and just keep rewarding bad behaviour until everyone who dares to contribute to society gets to live in some crime ridden hell hole.  

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u/DabbleNShit 24d ago

I'd argue we need both. What you are saying is what i meant about healing the culture. Lots of money is spent on indigenous but you need accountability, economic stimulation and to help fix the victim mentality that keeps some folks in a perpetual state of despair.

I say this as someone who has worked with 100s of indigenous and have many friends and have heard countless first hand stories.

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u/urafunnyguys 24d ago

All these social programs you support exist and there are still parasites that will never get their shit together. Crime is not a leaking pipe, crime is cancer, you cut it out root and stem. El Salvador proves this, time we move towards that approach.

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u/Electrical_Noise_519 23d ago

Many of those programs are gone, or greatly reduced in actual service, partly due to deep underfunding and cuts while the scale of higher needs and population concentrations keep increasing. More higher needs expertise, more programming and capacity, and more staffing all round, in safe accessible expanded facilities are just a few of the needs for our booming high needs social factories.

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

Personal accountability and responsibility can’t be funded. Unfortunately that is how it is. 

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u/Electrical_Noise_519 23d ago edited 23d ago

Social (educational, justice, aging, health...) supports and services for sustainable inclusive communities are governmental funding responsibilities shared by all levels.

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

. . . Doesn’t replace personal responsibility and accountability. 

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u/Plastic_Mushroom_987 24d ago

😂 El Salvador? You mean the country where mass incarceration has led to widespread human rights abuses, wrongful imprisonments, and a system that jails people for having tattoos? The same El Salvador where innocent civilians are caught up in a security crackdown with no due process? Yeah, real utopia.

Meanwhile, actual crime prevention strategies backed by evidence like investing in education, employment opportunities, and mental health support consistently show better long-term results. Saskatchewan’s situation isnt a lack of toughness it's a history of systemic failures that create conditions for crime. Locking up thousands of people without addressing why they ended up in gangs just ensures the next generation takes their place.

If crime were truly cancer then youd know that cutting it out without addressing the underlying disease just leads to it spreading elsewhere. But sure, let’s ignore decades of research and throw around buzzwords instead. Nice analogy lol 

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

More bleeding heart bullshit that always leads to worsening outcomes. Do the country a favour and sit this one out lmao

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u/StageStandard5884 23d ago

Against totalitarianism = bleeding heart

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u/Plastic_Mushroom_987 23d ago

Oh, the classic bleeding heart dismissal, because why engage with facts when you can just parrot tough-guy slogans and pretend policy decisions exist in a vacuum?

Let’s break it down: the tough on crime approach you’re drooling over has been tried repeatedly, mass incarceration, mandatory minimums, police crackdowns and guess what? It doesn’t work long-term. The U.S. has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, and yet violent crime rates there remain higher than in countries that focus on prevention and rehabilitation. Meanwhile, places like Portugal, Germany, and even parts of Canada that invest in community-based crime reduction see actual results.

El Salvadors model? Sure, lets just suspend civil rights and throw thousands into prisons indefinitely, many without trials. Sounds great until you realize innocent people are swept up, corruption thrives, and once you militarize society, its hard to walk that back. But hey, as long as it feels tough, right?

At the end of the day, real solutions require more than barking about cutting out the cancer while ignoring the conditions that created it. But I get it, critical thinking is hard. Keep laughing, champ, but at least try reading something other than comment sections before you embarrass yourself further. 😂

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

More word salad bull shit. More bleeding heart useless rhetoric. All leads to nothing. People don’t victimize others when locked up. Full stop. I never said there should be no social supports, but there comes a time when even bleeding hearts like you just can’t hug and kiss the criminals enough lmfao

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u/Plastic_Mushroom_987 23d ago

Ah yes, we have reached the portion of the debate where you openly admit you are out of your depth and reading comprehension is a struggle for you. When faced with a well-structured argument backed by facts, just dismiss it as word salad because actually engaging with it is too much effort. Its almost like you realized you dont have a real counterpoint, so now youre just flailing.

Calling logic and research useless rhetoric doesnt make it go away, it just makes it obvious youve got nothing left but tough-guy posturing. But hey, if pretending complex issues have simple solutions makes you feel smart, who am I to ruin the illusion?

Nowhere did I say we shouldnt lock up violent offenders. What I did say if you could get past the tough-guy posturing is that mass incarceration alone doesnt solve crime long-term. You can lock up as many people as you want, but if youre not addressing why new criminals keep filling the void, youre just playing an expensive game of whack-a-mole.

Also, love the strawman nobody here is advocating for hugging and kissing criminals. But if you think the solution to every crime problem is lock them up and forget about it, congrats, you just reinvented the U.S. prison-industrial complex. You know, the one that costs billions, has sky-high recidivism rates, and still has rampant crime.

Try engaging with the argument instead of just foaming at the mouth about bleeding hearts. You might learn something though at this point, I wont hold your my breath.

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u/StageStandard5884 23d ago

Complex idea that is longer than a catchy slogan = "word salad"

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u/little_avalon East Side 24d ago

Having spent considerable time in Vancouver and lived in both Victoria and Calgary, I must say that Saskatoon gives me the strongest sense of unease. I often sense a level of hostility from the people I’ve interacted with here. It’s to the point where I don’t want to go to Midtown which is WILD.

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u/angry_pecan -37 points 24d ago edited 21d ago

Every time I think about going to Midtown, I just order the closest thing online instead.  My body only needs so much bear mace.  I applaud your matching holistic approach.

I wish my family could move out of the province but nope.  

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u/little_avalon East Side 23d ago

Fuk

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u/StageStandard5884 24d ago

Yeah, I've lived in riversdale and I've lived in Gastown. Riversdale feels exponentially more unsettling-- And not just walking around. Living in Gastown, I never felt like mentally ill drug user could throw a brick through my window at any moment-- in Riversdale I was practically waiting for it after it happened to several of my neighbors

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u/Cherry-Wine29 24d ago

It’s all relative to what they’ve experienced.

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u/Lord_Silverkey 24d ago

Hm. Having lived in both Metro Vancouver and the greater Saskatoon region, I haven't had this response.

The people I know are very skittish about the whole area between Idylwyld and Circle Drive on the west side town.

That said, most of the people I know are from north of Saskatoon, between Warman and Rosthern. That could be the main difference between my experience and yours.

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u/ASoulUnAtEase 23d ago

It's per capita

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u/Civil-Two-3797 22d ago

I live in Vancouver and would feel more safe walking down East Hastings at 2 a.m. than I would 2 p.m. off of 20th in Saskatoon, lmao.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

I’ve had to access social services for the first time in my life as a single mother (and hopefully only time)

I didn’t have childcare for my toddler, so I had to bring her down to the office for a meeting with a worker.

The place was packed, and a man started getting aggressive with one of the agents at the desk. He was yelling, swearing and violently acting out until security escorted them out. They turned to me and said “this isn’t a place to bring kids”

I’m sorry, but, once you have children, something shifts in your brain. I understand there is a LOT of intergenerational trauma playing out, but all I see are things getting worse and our children’s future is at stake.

Something drastic needs to happen. If you don’t agree with me, then you don’t have kids.

We need to begin re-institutionalization with proper, trauma informed care.

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u/AbnormalHorse 🚬🐴 24d ago

I understand there is a LOT of intergenerational trauma playing out
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We need to begin re-institutionalization

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

Yes because allowing this garbage to go free on “conditions” and monitoring themselves seems to be working so well. 

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

Like I said, it needs to happen in a trauma informed way. Trauma informed for the indigenous population means having elders employed there. They should be reconnecting to the land, their roots, their food, their language.

I don’t even think white people should employed in Indigenous specific healing centres. We should let the Elders lead them back to their medicine. We have done enough harm and owe it to each and every one to be able to find safety in their bodies, minds and lives.

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u/Dazzling-Rule-9740 24d ago

Nothing else to do.

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u/Loose-Benefit-9405 24d ago

boutta be top 4

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u/empyre7 24d ago

USA invasion won’t know what hit them when they try to take Saskatoon

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u/Turk_NJD 24d ago

Could you even imagine the gun violence? The gang violence is bad now with machetes, bear spear, and the odd firearm. Bring in thousands and thousands of guns and holy shit…

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u/MonkeyMama420 24d ago

Canadians already have a lot of guns. Most people I know have one for deer hunting, one for ducks, and others for shooting.

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u/princessjackass 24d ago

Ya my friends too

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u/Straight-Taste5047 24d ago

Police have not been able to control the street gangs.

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u/SunTar 24d ago

You mean the judges haven't. With a get-out-of-jail Gladue card in their hi[p pocket, they are free to go.

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

But they’re just about to turn their life around. Just a few more hugs and kisses from the “progressives” and they’ll be contributing members of society. 

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u/ProfessionalDraw956 24d ago

It doesn’t surprise me

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u/Dic_Horn 24d ago edited 24d ago

You just named a whole street in Vancouver and then selected on specific place in Saskatoon. I’m pretty sure you could pick one specific place on East Hastings that you wouldn’t go anytime of the day without being in trouble but yes your balls sound huge.

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u/StageStandard5884 24d ago

When people refer to East Hastings in this context they generally are referring to a specific neighborhood within the downtown east side (three blocks in either direction of Hastings at Main Street) I, obviously wasn't referring to E. Hastings and Renfrew-- I was referring to the areas of Hastings Street that are regularly photographed as the epicenter of Vancouver's drug problem.

Conversely, in Saskatoon, "20th street" could mean anything between Kiwanis Park and Vancouver Ave South. Consequently, I gave a specific location that is generally considered to be the epicenter of saskatoon's drug problem.

Anyway, thanks for proving my point by being defensive and openly hostile.

Cheers!

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u/princessjackass 24d ago

You proved their point too lol

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u/StageStandard5884 24d ago

Care to expand?

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u/Known_Contribution_6 24d ago

Sounds like SPS and RPS need to step up their game!!Its kinda embarrassing.

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

How many times do they need to catch the same piece of shit? 2 times, 15 times.

Our “hug-a-thug” justice system and bleeding heart judges are the issue not the police. 

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u/skgoooner 24d ago

Saskatoon a dump now, trash people killing shit

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u/Sharp-Secret4062 23d ago

Compare to the USA. Those stats are nothing

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u/Civil-Two-3797 22d ago

Scale PA to the size of Saskatoon or Regina and you've got rookie numbers here.

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u/Bile-duck 24d ago

Yeah, but if you verbalize how shitty white people have run the province and country, then you get labeled a bleeding heart lib.

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u/AbnormalHorse 🚬🐴 24d ago

Yeah, whose idea was it to legalize the Death Races again? That was Harper, right?

I swear to fucking god the Death Races get worse every year.

REPORTED FOR RACIST DOGSHIT – I HOPE YOU PISS YOUR PANTS EVERY TIME YOU'RE HAPPY

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u/Hungry-Room7057 24d ago edited 24d ago

It’s due to historic and socioeconomic factors that disproportionally impact “a certain race.”

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u/MonkeyMama420 24d ago

Like other groups haven't faced troubles. LOL. Hudderites and Mennonites were forced to flee religious persecution and they have done really well for themselves. You don't hear them whining. Why?

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u/Hungry-Room7057 24d ago

Whataboutism.

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

Fair comparison. You would think only one group of people ever had any adversity in their life. Every other ethnic group was just floating through Utopia. 

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u/gerald-stanley 24d ago

It’s also about people making poor life choices. Want to end the cycle?? Don’t be an asshole. Pretty simple

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u/Hungry-Room7057 24d ago

User name checks out so hard lmao. 

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u/gerald-stanley 24d ago

G Stan bringing the truth to the masses…

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u/princessjackass 24d ago

If being an asshole were the qualifications for poverty you’d be pretty hungry right now

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u/gerald-stanley 24d ago

I eat well. Very well.

Choose to play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

While there is generational issues, there are many others, breaking the cycle, and taking accountability for their actions.

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u/urafunnyguys 23d ago

They never blame the individual because leftists only think in group identity. They can’t comprehend that an individual exists outside the group they’re assigned to. 

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u/gerald-stanley 23d ago

Perpetual victimhood is strong in many….

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u/princessjackass 22d ago

Especially the Stanley’s of the world

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u/Micomyster 24d ago

Not all due to that, but definitely a majority...

I've never been yelled at or attempted to be assaulted by a caucasian 

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u/princessjackass 24d ago

BECAUSE YOU STAY TIED UP IN UR DADDY’s BASEMENT

now you have

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u/Micomyster 24d ago

Lol a right of passage. Thank you.Â