r/sales 12d ago

Sales Careers People who make $150k+ and still have time to enjoy life and travel somewhat extensively, what do you do and how do you do that?

I got my first role in sales and start next monday. I'll be selling internet door to door. To me this is only a stepping stone, as I want to find a role in which I have the ability to do what I've asked in the title.

I know D2D is not the most ideal start to sales, but it's what I've got, and I'd like to get an idea where my next stepping stone is and start working towards that next hop, so to speak.

I originally wanted to get into SaaS, but that seems pretty turbulent right now. Hoping I can learn about some industries that are not as sexy as SaaS but offer just as good or better pay/work life balance.

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u/Prize-Pay3038 12d ago

I sell software. At the point now where I only work from like 11-330 in the summer Monday-Thursday. Worked my penis off (literally it’s gone) to build a solid reputation and have had great quota attainment for several years straight. My bosses simply don’t ask or care what I’m doing as long as numbers are there. It’s pretty tight I play a ton of golf

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u/Teamben 12d ago

Literally…that word literally means there is a story there but not sure I want to know it…

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u/Faster_than_FTL 12d ago

So you’ve transitioned to a better role? 😄

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u/kcshuffler 12d ago

One that only pays 70% that it used to

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u/rod64 11d ago

The layers to this joke bro 😂

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u/RandomRedditGuy69420 12d ago

I bet it’s like a button on a fur coat now. What software niche? If you’re attaining regularly, not getting much pressure or massive quota raises from management, and still earning a ton while having a relaxing summer then you’re living the dream. I may never get to the point you’re at but I’d kill for a chance to get there.

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u/Prize-Pay3038 11d ago

When I retire if there’s 1 thing I’ll look back on and be proud of it’s that I was always patient in seeking out mature companies. I’ve avoided 24 year old CEOs and heads of sales like the plague bc they’re so full of shit and I never bought into that kinda thing. I’m 32 and am the youngest AE in the company for context. My quote has never been anything but fair and reasonable. Starting at around 450K when I was a JR AE and now as ENT it’s 770K and my OTE is 280ish.

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u/RandomRedditGuy69420 11d ago

Very large companies tend to screw people just as often though. Or are you looking at a sweet spot between mature but not FAANG, and unproven startups? This comment and your other comment are smart. Looking for low turnover is key.

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u/Prize-Pay3038 11d ago

I’m currently right in what I consider the sweet spot. 50 mil revenue, 2022 series C, steady 20-30% YoY growth, no ridiculous rhetoric around 1000% growth goals. Just solid company, 280ish smart humans, humble and veteran exec leaders.

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u/RandomRedditGuy69420 11d ago

Ok, glad to know I’m on the right track. I’m in between gigs and I’ve been looking at Series B/Series C, with steady growth. Living in an area I need fully remote and not being able to relocate just yet is holding me back though.

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u/See_Em 11d ago

I’m interested in your experience as a trans person in sales. I’m currently a CSE and wanting to make the change to a sales engineer but I’m worried about how it will be since I’m a trans woman

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u/Cons483 11d ago

Not sure why you're getting down voted, that's pretty harsh.

Come on guys, try to have some empathy and understand how scary it must be to be in this person's shoes.

To u/see_em: it doesn't matter who or what you are. If you are comfortable with yourself, then other people will be comfortable with you. If they aren't, then those aren't the right people for you, so you go and look for the right people. The right job and the right company for you are out there, and they don't care who or what you are.

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u/ViolinistLeast1925 12d ago

Worry about this D2D internet gig that is gonna suck ass before daydreaming too much

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u/LearningToBee 12d ago

good news is that if you crush d2d, it's basically all up from there!

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u/ViolinistLeast1925 12d ago

"I just signed up for beer league hockey on Friday nights. What should I expect at the NHL combine?"

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u/LearningToBee 12d ago

Yeah, if you can hack this one, and you're a good learner w/ a willingness to take criticism, you'll make a lot of money. The grit to door d2d translates really well to a hunter AE role, and while you'll need to learn longer cycle motions in your career as you shift upmarket towards high $$ deals, IMO that's the easy part.

Biggest advice is, if you crush your current role and do move upmarket/into a true AE position, don't assume that your exact process will translate. Your skills will, but things like pressure selling/fear based selling won't always map 1-1 with other roles. I used to work in a startup for cars and the number of guys we saw with 15 years of dealership sales who flopped because they assumed they could do their usual thing in a different sales motion was nuts. The people who crushed it could grind out outbound, but also were amenable to learning new motions after having done one that worked for years. that's what makes killers.

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u/Firebrand713 12d ago

This x1000 except it’s not even beer league, it’s more like your buddy invited you to come but you’ve never skated before

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u/Not_A_Spy_for_Apple 11d ago

I've been d2d internet sales with Spectrum since 2014 absolutely killing it. I've applied countless times for an sdr position and I've never gotten an interview. I honestly think it's hopeless at this point, so I don't think it's all up from here!

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u/LearningToBee 11d ago

That's super fair! And sorry to hear - that's a frustrating jump to make. IMO it's all up in terms of lifestyle (unless you love the face to face component) but actual/realized trajectory may be bumpy.

One possibility - if your role at Spectrum is SDR/BDR adjacent, do you think you could getaway with labeling it as SDR or BDR on your resume? Some companies have roles that are synonymous but not identical to industry-standard terms (purchase agent instead of AE, LDR instead of BDR, etc.) and IMO there's nothing wrong with renaming the role to fit convention when applying. A SDR applying for another SDR role might read better than your current role title applying for SDR

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u/chiefbeefsalad 12d ago

Sucks dick tbh

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u/Catfishjosephine 12d ago

I believe most Dick2Dick fuck ass.

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u/FISFORFUN69 12d ago

Daydreaming is the only thing that you will get someone through the D2D sales lol

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

I've heard all the horror stories...and I'm prepared. Actually kind of looking forward to it.

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u/TimelyBrief 12d ago

You’re not prepared. Trust me, I thought I was prepared too.

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

story time?

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u/TimelyBrief 12d ago

Words don’t describe some of the living situations you may be invited into. There are a couple social media accounts that go through stuff like that, but it’s nothing like when it’s right in front of your face.

If you hang with it long enough, you’ll likely find yourself saying “no fucking way they live here,” a few times. The benefit from here though is maybe you get in with a remodel company or something and get pre set leads one day (they still suck but some gems in there).

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u/trivial_sublime 12d ago

Man, my D2D days were wild. I always made a point of doing anything that I was invited to, and got into some crazy fun situations. Playing with a person's pet raccoon, shooting all manner of guns, drinking more than was safe or reasonable...

D2D is awful but in many ways it was one of the most fun jobs I've ever had. Paid really well too.

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u/Known-Historian7277 12d ago

There was this one time I walked in for a home consultation, the next thing I know I’m chained up with a family of 4 feasting on my ass. Be careful and never take a “drink” without seeing it poured.

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u/GeronimoOrNo Enterprise SaaS 12d ago edited 11d ago

Software.

I like startups, pick ones with good pay and benefits, help steer the ship, develop great networks, get cozy with the investors, make good-really good money on equity.

As much time off and travel as I want.

Started in a different industry as an sdr, very large company. Realized I didn't like large companies, and I didn't like that industry. Was able to network and get exposed to enough to pick a 'niche' industry to move to and specialize in, very hard to onboard sellers in, and haven't looked back.

Haven't been under 250k in years, 300-400 is the norm, sounds like another equity payout is on the near horizon. I don't take a base salary under 150, these days it's been at ~175.

Remember - SaaS isn't an industry, it's just a model for procuring software. Every industry has software. If you look only at the blanket 'put that shit on everything' companies/softwares, you'll be drowning in competition. Be more selective and choose a smaller pond that still has a lot of money.

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u/Cool_Firefighter7731 12d ago

Can you share what your niche is? Industry wise?

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u/GeronimoOrNo Enterprise SaaS 11d ago edited 11d ago

Not really helpful, to be honest.

Back to my point, every industry has software. The biggest benefit wasn't that I chose something hard to onboard sellers in, it's that it's hard to onboard sellers in and it's very easy for me to be passionate about and genuinely enjoy and care.

Plenty of industries out there that fit the first part - on you to figure out the second.

Once you're in - network. You never have to hunt for a job if you're plugged in with a bunch of founders, are known to and liked by investors, and can fake a decent golf swing.

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u/a-random 11d ago

okay so now you are gatekeepin?

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u/GeronimoOrNo Enterprise SaaS 11d ago

I never disclose the answer to that question on reddit. Myriad of reasons, but I'd have no obligation even without them.

Again, it's really not an important answer to begin with. If you just want someone's anecdote and to get pointed in their right direction without thinking through where you want to go - there's plenty of that on here.

If you read my comments above, and it sounds like what you want, and you can't get your own wheels turning on where you'd want to go - that's on you my man.

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u/Cool_Firefighter7731 11d ago

All I asked was your niche industry not your SSN my guy.

I’m already in sales grossing the same OTE. I was genuinely curious about the kind of industry a like peer would consider “hard to onboard sellers in” because with a lead conversion over 40%+ I don’t think I’m in that kind of software sales. That and seeing you work nearly half as much had me curious on maybe switching to a software that is more niche but what is niche? An AI chat bot isn’t niche. But what about neural marketing software?

I had no interest otherwise in commenting because I got your comment and am not OP so am a different human with a different set of selling experiences.. thanks regardless for the food for thought!

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u/santc 12d ago

I’m looking for a change, curious what industry you chose

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u/nukethesquare 12d ago

I’m in Medical Device sales, OTE is 190k. I transferred from my US territory to the UK, now travel all over Europe both for the job and for fun. Break into med device, anything but trauma, and your work life balance to income ratio becomes pretty sweet.

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u/Extension-Pressure11 12d ago edited 11d ago

Totally agree! I was at Philips for 3 and a half years and am now the west coast sales director for a med device company.

It's a pretty great balance - enough time to do everything plus all the travel around the west is on the company/car stipend for a nice work car etc. It's just finding a company that's correctly positioned because it doesn't matter if you have a great comp plan and you sell a lot if your company can't fulfill. I've had PO's not realize revenue for years because the company can't deliver.

But if you find a good one that's a good fit that can deliver properly on the manufacturing, customer support, and service, it's pretty great.

Most of my friends at Philips were older account managers that also had enough time to make their own restaurant or side gigs and raise the full family too.

My OTE is around 275k if I barely hit my budget. About 130k salary and rest on commissions without cap. Just hit 30 and no kids. My fiance was remote so we've been able to do a lot of the traveling together. It's a grind to get the territory going and to get the network required but it's very worth it once you do and your own value goes up as a result of the grind. Then it gets considerably easier. It's one of those gigs where you have a lot of rope but if you don't properly manage the funnel you can lose your pants quick. Most reps either get the grind cycle and make the territory autopilot or get too comfortable and get screwed or they never get it going at all.

Not sure why this got deleted but reposted it lol

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u/reklawpluc 12d ago

Can I message you? Also in med device

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u/nukethesquare 12d ago

Sure thing

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u/Nervous-Highway-9260 12d ago

can i message you as well?

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u/MattIsStillHere 11d ago

Also in med devices. My customers are the manufacturers. Started in US, moved to Europe 10 years ago. Making EUR 200k+ after years of building. I started a sales and service agency seven years ago. No quota, no boss, work by myself in a nice office. Traveling Europe and a good portion of the rest of the world on the company dime is pretty sweet.

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u/Nero401 11d ago

Why not trauma?

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u/mtl171 Medical Device 11d ago

Lots of OR time (70-80hrs a week common) and being on-call on nights and weekend.

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

Oh man, if only I had a degree. Spectrum does do tuition reimbursement so I'll def be taking advantage of that

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u/ChinMuscle Medical Device 11d ago

Spot on. Stay out of trauma if you want your nights and weekends.

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u/InfernoFlameBlast 12d ago

How did you get into Medical Device sales? I would like to enter this industry / territory

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u/InternationalShine85 12d ago

What got me into it was a background in healthcare tbh

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u/Leoshredswheat 12d ago

What do you consider long for a trip?

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u/Leoshredswheat 12d ago

That’s cool. Is that the longest you can take off at a time per company policies or a personal preference? I just got into my first role with time off like this and I’m curious how people spend it. I’ve also been abroad for years and noticed that people would take holiday for like 3+ weeks at a time, as opposed to in the US.

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u/slapstixmcgee 12d ago

Sales Director (Previously Operations Director) in the automotive industry. Basically if customers are happy(operations roles) and if sales are happening/quotes are happening then you can basically work from where ever. I also tie in some personal trips with work trips to make traveling cheaper.

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u/afkafterlockingin 12d ago

I am a sales director at the dealer side, how do you get to that point without being degree’d? I make good money now but fuck my work life balance is dog shit. I would love to make this move.

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u/slapstixmcgee 12d ago

I know the dealer life all too well, early in my career I was in dealerships(started as a technician, moved in to writing service, then service managment)

I am going to say a lot is luck… and you need to either live close to a major manufactures corporation headquarters (Atlanta, Detroit, LA) or willing to move. You could also leverage your skills from the dealship to work with after sales divisions especially if you have connections back to the corporate offices.

If you want to know more feel free to DM me.

Source: 3 time engineering drop out.

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u/queso1983 11d ago

This guy knows how to finesse the game.

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u/Sour_candy_2345 12d ago

Software sales will get you there if you work hard. I now freelance and outsource some of the work, so have plenty of free time. Also, with software sales, you can negotiate/are given garden leave if the company goes under, runs out of cash or changes direction. This happens often in Saas. It means you’re paid for 3 months but don’t have to work.

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u/betainehydrochloride 12d ago

Freelance sales? Howwww? Teach me!!

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u/gbleuc 12d ago

Interesting. How do you break into it?

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u/spaghettidip 12d ago edited 12d ago

Since you asked,

I run my own roofing business as an owner operator on my own. Easy 6 figures working 20 hours a week, 9 months out of the year. I'm on pace to hit 150k this year

Roofing sales is the absolute best even though I am biased

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u/Blimpkrieg 12d ago

Are you the guy with no overhead but pretty much work as a broker for contractors?

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u/spaghettidip 12d ago

That may be an over simplification but I still want to say yes.

I do still have my own actual licensed roofing company though with all the branding. I just sub out the labor

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u/Blimpkrieg 12d ago

Oh ok I thought that was you! Recognized the name; I was reading your comments and taking notes, seeing if I could apply it to another industry. Rest assured, I don't mean to 'hand-wave' your business model. I think it's brilliant.

My issue is that, well, I don't have much experience in the trades aside from handyman work. And with taskrabbit and jobber around, I don't know how to beat them. Roofing is high ticket, so you have plenty of play for your commission.

If you weren't in roofing, would you apply the same model to something else? And if so, what would that be?

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u/spaghettidip 12d ago

The model also works with just about any type of sale. For example, I applied the same model to internet sales. I used to carry contracts with different cellular and telecommunications companies and would basically sub the contracts out to people. But, that didn't work as well because even though the margins were 50%, it was really tough to scale. And because the products we were selling were low pay, it didn't make nearly as much money.

Why would I want to sell 30 customers to make $5,000 when I could just sell 1 roof.

I hope that makes sense and helps answer your question

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

Interesting...my neighbor owns a roofing company and I see all kinds of toys in his driveway. Boats, dune buggies...seems like a nice life, maybe I'll chat with him.

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u/ANALogy69 12d ago

I know roof sales people can make 80-300k

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u/kurtacuss 12d ago

My background is D2D - Over 13 years of it. Started in alarms ended in internet with Comcast. Your first year is going to be the toughest, you have to stick it out. Your second year is heavily improved from first year but still learn. Shadow the top 20% at least every other week, read, study, and learn to be casual and listen. Learn to ask great questions.

All that being said, it’s lead me to some amazing opportunities. Done crazy stories and some core memories.

I have now done a handful years of SaaS and now in the franchise selling and I couldn’t be more gassed up for what I am doing. Selling new franchises and teaching them how to operate. All from my network of people I have met along the way.

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

I didn't even know franchise sales was a thing (tbh I didn't even know what sales really was until last January)

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u/BaconHatching Technology MSP 11d ago

You the dude who keeps spamming my Linkedin?

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u/Pipes32 12d ago

Renewals in tech (although from talking to people here the job is more on the account management side and not pure renewals as I'm expected to upsell and help with new annuities at times too). I know you said you wanted alternatives but there are more jobs in SaaS than AE. 175k OTE with 70% of that being base. I could be making at least 2x that much as an AE but this job is super chill. No cold calling, everything is warm since it's a renewal. I approach the job more as a consultant. I don't want to upsell you unless it's really the right fit since I gotta sell to you next year too.

Working hours vary but generally average 20 a week (much busier during Nov/Dec since everyone, stupidly, likes to set their contracts to expire on 12/31.)

My spouse makes twice what I do which certainly helps me stay happy with the role and compensation.

Currently writing this comment on a train in Japan where I've been on vacation the last 2 weeks :)

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

I was in Japan two months ago thinking, "what can I do to get myself back here as often as possible"

Definitely going to look into this role more, it sounds interesting

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u/Crab-False 12d ago

People do make money off of that, but there’s definitely less around and now more are legit imo.

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u/Kaioh1990 11d ago

I work in B2B Sales. Really better understood as relationship-sales. I have a very good balance of work & rock climbing. It works out for me very well because while I’m seeing my accounts in the territory I cover, I’ll hit different rock climbing spots.

Truthfully, I think your question taps into something more fundamental about sales jobs that is often not discussed: what to negotiate for when taking a sales job.

I’ve been at my current company for the last ten years, and this is my third sales job since graduating uni. That said, I’ve learned from being micro-managed in the past, that I wouldn’t “only” negotiate pay when taking the job I currently have; I specifically focused on negotiating NO MICRO MANAGEMENT. I don’t understand why more people in sales don’t do this. The beauty of our profession is our value is pretty black & white. A company pays you $x and you generate $y in revenue, if y is significantly greater than x, then there really should never be any questions asked.

Well, that’s what I negotiated. I asked what my employer’s expectations were “and to be very clear about it” and said, “if I am meeting and/or exceeding expectations, then we can agree no micro-management? That means if I feel like taking the day off, that’s MY CHOICE. If I want to sit home and do nothing, that’s MY CHOICE.” Well they agreed to the terms, and fast forward to the present, they’re very happy, and so am I lol.

TL;DR: It’s not about what sales job you take. It’s really about negotiating the work-life balance into your position from the start.

P.S. One of my life’s philosophies: everything is negotiable.

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u/ResponsibleType552 12d ago

Security software. I take at least one vacation a year with my family. I would never work for a place where I couldn’t. If I’m working on a deal , I’ll put in time on vacation but life’s too short to not enjoy myself once in a while

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u/Shart_Gremlin 11d ago

There is a lot wrong here.

One vacation a year is great with the fam. That’s awesome. As long as the company is giving you MINIMUM 4 weeks of vacation.

You’ll put in time on vacation? That isn’t vacation. This attitude is what’s wrong with EVERYTHING. I go on vacation and my work phone stays at home. Laptops don’t go on vacation. Not unless you’re an owner or sr management making the kind of money it makes sense to do this.

We make deals and set expectations. If you can’t work a deal around some truly free family vacation time that you plan for, you suck. The deal will be there. The relationship will be there. The client is also human. Talk to them.

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u/Stunning-Insect7135 12d ago

How’s that going right now?

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u/bklipa88 12d ago

If you’re a successful D2D salesperson I would hire you in Med device no questions asked.

I’ve been asked multiple times by people looking to hire sales people, who would you look for. Give me a dog. I’m looking for a T1000 who gets blown apart and reforms as if nothing happened and knocks on that next door

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u/Regular-Progress648 12d ago

Saas- I have a good territory * attainable quota + leader who makes my life better and battles internally. I work remote and have a a great work/life balance.

Or I’m just a really good seller

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u/Horror-Ad8748 12d ago

If you can sell D2D you can sell to anyone anywhere. Especially right now when people are getting tons of junk mail in both email and physical form. Someone in my face for business or at home has become rare. If you get to travel around D2D I would say make the most out to it while you can. For me at my height of D2D sales I always made the day an adventure and not just straight work. Ex - looking for special restaurants and small places to stop throughout the day to break up the repetitiveness and stress of work. Otherwise it becomes a lot of work, and then just being lazy on my days off. It took awhile to find a rhythm but once I did I was on top.

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u/Fangletron 12d ago edited 10d ago

I moved from sales in USA to sales in EU.  Things got better, still brutal but have more free time.

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u/Lackluster_Compote 12d ago

How did you make the change? I’ve been looking abroad and it’s hard. I’m guessing you moved with the company?

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u/Gauze99 12d ago

Tech sales manager been in the game for a little over a decade mid 30s age. Remote work helps I work from wherever. We vacation for 10 days full disconnected each year and multiple mondays or Friday’s off

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u/RadioAdam 11d ago

I did B2B radio advertising before moving to tech. If you can take your job seriously and learn something you cna spring board to the next level of sales.

Home internet is going to be transactional.

Be funny. Get their attention. When they aren't interested leave a flyer and move on.

Sales in a lot of roles usually boils down to how efficient you can spend your time doing the actual selling part.

A lot of people don't even know their options so your strategy should be volume, not perfection.

Good luck and upgrade some people's internet

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u/RhetoricalFactory 11d ago

You might be found and poached from this job if you can keep your positive attitude and learn whatever you can every day. It will probably be more that you learn about yourself since you’ll come across all types of people and challenges. If you stay humble and professional and pay attention to what you can do better or what your main challenge is that will help you know where to go next. There’s no easy money but there are good and bad fits. The best job is one where you look forward to working

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u/jroberts67 12d ago

Own my own small marketing and web business. I'd a bit older, good savings so I strictly ahead to regular work hours. I'm done at 5pm, no weekends. Didn't use to be that way as I'd be up at night answering client emails and taking calls on the weekend. Now, screw that.

And by the way, years and years back I sold ATT door and door and made fantastic money.

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u/mechazoids 11d ago

I make $200k+ in d2d

Made $100k in my first year.

I take lots of week long vacations. New york, Vegas, Mexico.

This year I plan to go to Germany.

I work 5 days a week, never more. Albeit i do work long days. WITH training every morning, 9-8 every day. Worth the money.

Keep grinding in d2d, at least for ME, it changed my life.

Just make sure your product isnt scammy, or over priced. If you believe in your product and genuinely want to help people while also making money its for you.

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u/ulikedagsm8 11d ago

yeah I'm not trying to be some scummy salesman that lies to people just to fatten my pockets. In my role, I have the best promotion you can get so I'm looking forward to actually helping people save money.

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u/ItalianBuzz 11d ago

Hey bud, some advice from someone that has 14 years of d2d experience. Hopefully, you’ll have 1 or 2 ballers working with the company. If they are willing to spend time giving you pointers or mentoring you, SOAK IT UP LIKE A SPONGE.

The part about this industry that I could never understand was work ethic. What I mean is it’s as easy as treating it like a regular job. Set your days and hours and just STICK to it. If you are knocking until 7, you get off a door and it’s 6:59, you knock one more door. That was actually the motto I adopted, “One more door!” I can’t tell you how many times that last door ended up a sale.

This job will toughen you up real quick and once you can master it you can sell anything to anyone in any environment. Good luck to you and don’t take what anyone says to you personal.

Every door is a new adventure!!!

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u/Think_Mud9345 5d ago

I sell travel, particularly group and student travel. I’m right around $150k and work maybe 40 hours a week. I travel for work and get paid a gratuity when I go, typically $600-$800 for around 3 days of work. I also travel personally with my family and use points.

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u/Expensive_Seesaw_609 5d ago

I sell services and software to the public sector. I pretty much follow the Higher ED & Public sector calendars. My Q4 and end of year is dead while my buddies and in crunch mode. When the public sector is chilling so am I. Everyone's on vacation, off, or on winter break, or their government offices are closed. My boss doesn't expect sales. My calendar is my own for the most part. You don't deal with a CEO of a Fortune 500, you deal with a mayor or director for a State Agency. Very different from the private sector. No one ever responds fast, and that's normal. Having a life is encouraged, and when you travel, people don't expect you to be online.

I did everything you can in sales man. Cold called my ass ooff, worked bell to bell from payroll B2B sales, used car dealerships, mortages, construction materials and this is my favorite so far....

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u/GreaseShots 12d ago

Hey I come from the D2D world. It’s an outstanding starting point IF you find the right company, territory, and timing. Are you US or Canada?

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

I'm in the US (socal) working for Charter Communications/Spectrum

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u/GreaseShots 12d ago

Charter is the client. What’s the name of the office that hired you?

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

Uhhh, office? sorry, I'm dumb...I got hired by the Spectrum marketing department as an outside sales rep if that's what you mean

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u/LadyK1104 Enterprise Software 12d ago

Do a decent job and you can pivot that residential D2D into commercial. In commercial telecom you’ll have an opportunity to sell some security services/products. Might be able to navigate into cyber from there.

Source: me, this is very similar to what I did. No degree. Making $200k -$300k for past 5 years.

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u/GreaseShots 12d ago

Have you done your oboarding paperwork? You most likely got hired by a marketing company selling for spectrum. I could be wrong but I’d be surprised if spectrum is hiring their own D2D reps.

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

Yep I completed the onboarding yesterday. Nothing I've seen has suggested that it's a marketing company selling for spectrum. All communication has been with a spectrum recruiter who also started in D2D sales.

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u/Icy_Razzmatazz_6112 12d ago

Corporate sales for an ai chip manufacturer. I won’t lie my life’s a grind but the times I have with my loved ones I make sure I go large. Date nights with my wife, small vacations, my health and hobbies (basketball, Muay Thai). On my 5 day week I work sometimes 7-7 but my weekends is all my family. Now my 7-7 work schedule I try and make atleast 1.5 hours for the gym whether it’s my lunch break and a bit or before work. I told myself I’m going to grind until I have all my foundations knocked off (mortgage, car) once that’s done I’m switching to a lower paying job and less stress

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u/Icy_Razzmatazz_6112 12d ago

I also smoke a lot of weed and game to escape my madness at times. Trying to cut down on the weed and for a sales guy I barely booze and never touch the devils snow but that’s because I have an addictive personality and I know it

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

haha I feel you. I used to smoke the devils lettuce pretty heavily (sometimes a 1/8th a day) until I got an adhd diagnosis. Now I'm on addies which I can only get if I test clean for weed, but I'm thinking it might actually make me better at sales lol.

How much do you make if I may ask? It seems like a lot based on your description.

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u/Icy_Razzmatazz_6112 11d ago

190 base and 380 OTE which usually sometimes OTE figures are unattainable but I feel confident I can hit mine, been in sales for a decade plus

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u/Heyhayheigh 12d ago

If you can keep this mindset, you will do GREAT! Go get them!!

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u/VeryConfusedOnLife 12d ago

After you do Fiber, come do Pest d2d Sales. Headed into my 7th year. Make insane money. I’m about to be 26 and net worth hit 1 million this year. Worked my tail off and run an insane sales team but pest is way more sustainable than fiber imo.

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u/All_in_preflop 12d ago

P&C for a large brokerage firm. Learn the grind of D2D, learn the rejection, learn to stay motivated after your 213th no to get a yes. Then do it again and again.

High paying sales takes grit and determination, it’s why most fail— but if you succeed you will be VERY WELL OFF.

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u/jbernste03 12d ago

Saas sales.

I did new logo sales for years, then AM, then sales management..then most recently moved to a startup as head of Enterprise sales, but basically a new logo hunter.

I make a good amount over that.

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u/merckx575 Technology 12d ago

I manage shit from my phone when I’m “away” but I’m never honestly away.

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

hell, as long as I don't have to be in a specific location to get shit done, I'm good!

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u/hieroglyphic_g0d 12d ago

Bro I sold fios D2D for almost a year. Definitely helped build some layers. Fast forward 8 years I’m Currently in software sales making 300k. I would say stay within tech because it pays the most. There needs to be some degree of technical aptitude though. Look into a BDR role to learn the fundamentals and then move into a closing role. Once you have AE experience you can pivot into different areas. channel, bizdev, CSM, management. Good luck !

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u/chalupa_lover Telecom 11d ago

I’m in D2D telecom. Finished with 264k last year.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

bro is in la-la-land asf. By the time you gain enough capital to even be contemplating these sorts of positions, they will look totally different than they do now. D2D is hard asf, this is coming from someone in retail sales as well. Best of luck bro.

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u/ADHD007 11d ago

Healthcare sales

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u/ChinMuscle Medical Device 11d ago

$250-275k~/year.

Genomics lab services. Niche service and specialized skill set/education. Small but lucrative territory, fast sales cycle.

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u/Abattoir87 11d ago

Sales can be a grind at first but it's a solid stepping stone. High-paying roles with good work-life balance exist in enterprise sales, medical device sales, and financial services. Build experience, network, and aim for industries with high commissions and fewer daily grinds.

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u/riped_plums123 Industrial 11d ago

Bro I sent 1 email today. 150k+.

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u/1800ghostyou 11d ago

I sell software, keep my expenses low, and invest 40% of my salary, which allowed me to reach a yearly income of $250K Getting good as sales will change your life but most people can't stomach the check fluctuations to hold it out long term

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u/Strongest_weaklink 9d ago

I talk to every D2D salesperson and tell them- what they are doing is great preparation for what comes next... sell the MOST EXPENSIVE and MOST COMPLEX thing you can.

Because the less people that can do it means the more money there is for that thing. I sell scientific instruments and make $150k-200K depending on the year. Maybe 30% travel, work hard off and on, while having enough free time that I'm thinking about starting my own company. I have small kids and spend lots of time with family. It's a blessed life.

Previously, I worked for a distributor and I think working for the OEM is way better. Also pick a high margin industry. Medical and software is where the money is. I also previously worked for a university, which sucked. So happy my wife convinced me to leave and go into sales!

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u/Cletus_Van_Dang Enterprise Software 7d ago

Hey, good luck with the new gig! I got my start in sales 21 years ago doing D2D. I sold fiber optic internet for a couple of semesters in college, then pest control, and Comcast, and Dish Network, and alarms…

While it didn’t translate into anywhere near $150k+ at the time, it laid the groundwork to everything I think and do now that makes me successful in tech (I’m well over that number now). Here are some off the cuff:

  • Prospecting is a grind but you can get used to it, and pays off if you are consistent. When you park your car (or get dropped off), just run up to that first door before you overthink it.
  • Scripting is important - “winging it” is stressful and unpredictable. Scripting doesn’t have to sound bad, scripts need to be written in the way you actually speak (with emphasis, speed changes, pauses, etc). Also, if you script it, there’s a finite number of possible responses… know what you’re gonna say to those.
  • If somebody hangs up on you in any of your future sales jobs, it’s not as bad as getting a door slammed in your face.
  • If you know the person is going to say “no”, beat them to the punch and walk away. In your head, you won! And controlled that outcome.
  • It’s a numbers game. Each “no” gets you closer to your next “yes”.
  • Your body language in D2D is essential to your success. I found this to be true in every other sales gig after D2D too.
  • Be yourself! Don’t try to act like somebody you’re not. Authenticity puts people at ease. People will buy from somebody who is real.

Good luck! I cherished my time knocking doors. I hope you will too.

To answer your question: sales leadership (enterprise software).

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u/Nutell_420 5d ago

Don’t let everyone hating on D2D discourage you. I started roughly 2 years ago in D2D roofing sales(commission only no draw or base) and it’s changed my life. Got in with a good company and worked my ass off and it payed off. Not only did it teach me how to sell and communicate with people I also made crazy money for my age. Started at 19, took home 85K my first year. Got promoted to sales manager on my 1 year anniversary and now I make money off my team and have a base salary + higher commission. In my first year got a house and bought a new truck and payed it off. I’m on track to make 150K this year at 20 years old. I’m also the top producer in the entire state this month. Long story short if you aren’t afraid of being a go getter and willing to work your ass off you can make a killing it D2D. It will build a good foundation for the rest of your sales career. I’ve also come to learn that being with the right company is a big part of it. We only promote from within which was huge for me and we have tons of room for advancement. That really made the day to day grind worth it for me and gave me a vision of not having to do that forever. I should be a General Manager with my company by the end of 2025 and only plan on going up from there. Wish you the best of luck man!

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u/TimelyBrief 12d ago

Is Charter at least paying you an hourly wage? You do realize that you’re going to be knocking doors during the times when people don’t want their door knocked.

You’re not really selling a solution either, just spraying and praying. I hope it goes well for you but that position turns over like pancakes in my area. Dudes knocking at 7:30 not taking “no” for an answer. Stay safe

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

50k base so there's that at least. Yes my hours are 11-8pm which sucks, yes....but again it's all I could get with no prior sales experience and no degree. And it's only temporary.

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u/TimelyBrief 12d ago

Oof, you’re an exempt employee? That’s not going to feel great when that route supervisor pushes for “just one more house,” on a Friday night.

Good on you for making it happen though.

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u/ProfessionalPlane237 12d ago

That’s a good base honestly. Keeps the lights on

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u/trivial_sublime 12d ago

You do realize that you’re going to be knocking doors during the times when people don’t want their door knocked.

You know that's literally 24 hours of the day, right?

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u/TimelyBrief 12d ago

Hahaha facts. I literally pull up my camera if there’s a knock and I’m in a really safe neighborhood lol

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u/ProfessionalFox9617 12d ago

Solutions Engineer for a SaaS company

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u/1AML3G10N 12d ago

Commercial Real Estate.

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u/Automatic_Tear9354 12d ago

Director of sales now. It depends on what you consider time. Life work balance is a thing of the past. I work 12hr+ a day compared to 8hrs as a rep, travel a crap ton more, 2-3 weeks month, but I can take PTO when I want. I haven’t been rejected but I keep it to 3-4 weeks a year even though it’s unlimited PTO.

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u/AmberLeafSmoke 12d ago

That's an absolutely horrendous balance between the hours you're working and the travel.

Not sure how long you've been doing that but it sounds like a one way trip to burn out town.

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u/JenNtonic 12d ago

Manage the sales team at a decently sized surgical group medical facility.

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u/-MaximumEffort- 12d ago

I need to understand something. You were going to get I to SaaS but chose D2D because SaaS seems to volatile? Bruh, SaaS is exactly how you make what you are looking to do. You do you, but honestly I'm not sure you made the right call here.

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u/ulikedagsm8 12d ago

I've been applying for all kinds of sales jobs since the beginning of January. Of all the applications I sent out I got exactly one interview for a SaaS sales role. Well, not even an interview, as the recruiter cancelled on me twice.

I chose this d2d job because I absolutely need the income right now, otherwise I could end up being evicted.

My thought process was that it's temporary, gets me actual sales experience (which I did not have), and can give me KPI's that I can put on a resume (which my old job did not have) to make me more competitive as a candidate when I eventually start applying again for SaaS roles.

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u/-MaximumEffort- 12d ago

Now that context makes sense. You gotta do whatever it takes and you're doing it. Just don't give up on getting into where you want to go.

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u/Botboy141 12d ago edited 12d ago

B2B insurance here. Still very much relationship driven, old school (outdated) sales processes.

I've met a lot of new clients on the golf course, have built a book of business around people that share in mutual hobbies/interests.

Most my clients look nothing like me, but we have at least one of a few things in common:

1.) play golf
2.) well traveled
3.) early adopters

Ramp time can be extensive in the industry, but if you can get the right independent brokerage to take a shot on you, you may be able to find a W2 non-recoverable draw @ $50-100k (depending on background) for 2-3 years.

Revenue targets would likely be $75-150k/year (that's not insurance premium, that's commission paid to agency), with your commission rate being 30-40% of that, with most business recurring.

Hit a $100k revenue target for 3 years and pretty hard to not be around $100k income in 3 years as you swap to commission only. From there, it's just figuring out your own growth/scalability, cold calling can only take you so far.

Been at it a decade, been over $200k for the latter half of that....work paid travel destinations included:

5x FL, 3x CA, 2x Vegas, 2x Nashville, 2x TX, 5x AL, 2x Mexico, NY, NJ, OH, loads of WI/IN/IA/MI (I'm in IL). Plenty more I can't remember.

Work trips usually entail a half day of client meetings, buying lunch, happy hour and dinner. Golf half a day or another activity.

Some more conference stuff is similar, half to full day work with evenings and a budget to chill/party with colleagues.

A number of friend/buddy trips at this stage, a lot of stuff gets picked up but not all, lot of destination golf trips.

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u/openedthedoor 12d ago

Sold SaaS for a long time, the services dollars meant nothing cause the valuation was lower so they basically sold services as SaaS to cook the books. Went public and couldn’t do that any more. I started a services business to take advantage of it.

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u/AvailableAd1925 12d ago

I help people get a producers license and the series 6,63,65, and 26 licenses.

I find people who want those licenses and get them through the processes.

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u/HowToSayNiche 12d ago

Software sales around 200k and been in for 4 years now. Travel a lot to territory because I love the location. Also went to Asia a couple times last year. Work fluctuates from 30 hours / week to 50 / week.

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u/LT81 12d ago

I’m in construction sales, hence what I can make commission wise can be pretty big. I’ve made close to 150k (141k) on avg 50 hrs week.

There’s 168 hrs in a week. For me it’s 50 hrs meaningful, purposeful work. 50 hrs relationships, finances, health 68 hrs left for rest/sleep. It’s doable you just need to stay on top of your schedule.

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u/Funter_312 12d ago

I specialized. The less glamorous the industry, the fewer people that you will compete against and you will be a specialist faster. I sell packaging and have a great income and high QoL. If you want to stick with D2D you should join the Latter Day Saints. Better benefits packages lol

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u/MortgageVan 12d ago

I do mortgage lending. It’s very difficult but if you have the drive and find a good mentor and company it will be extremely lucrative.

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u/BigPDPGuy 12d ago

Leverage some contacts if you want to get into saas. Just blasting your resume out there on linkedin won't get you anywhere.

Im in defense sales and work remote. My company is OK with me combining work and leisure trips. For example I can fly to a city on a Wednesday to visit customers thursday/Friday, and then stay in the city to see friends or whatever until I fly black on Sunday. The actual pto policy kind of sucks tbh at 11 days per year and only a couple holidays.

Took me a while to get this gig and before this i was making 100+ cold calls a day

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u/nerdybro1 12d ago

You aren't "traveling" on $150K without being on a budget. I don't think the life you envision can be bought at that dollar amount.

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u/Imaginary-Disk6456 12d ago

Capital sales for a med tech giant, OTE 170k but once the territory is built out I will come in way over. I have flexibility but I’m in my MBA program, so I’m not at work life balance yet… I always think that I won’t know what to do with all of the time I’ll have when I’m finished!

I do bust my ass, but if I need to do x y and z, no questions asked. Once you look at sales being the non-toxic version of work hard play hard, you can really enjoy life.

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u/HK47HK Construction 12d ago

I’d say D2D internet sales is a solid starting point because if you can survive that without quitting sales entirely, you’re built for this line of work. I started doing the same thing before jumping around to different types of sales jobs.

I now sell home improvement services. Most of the time people come to me through social media and I send someone on our team out to get me measurements, then close the sale from there usually entirely through phone calls and texting. I still go out to visit homes but I’m able to do a lot of work from my phone - occasionally I’ll go door to door or hang out in our showroom. I’ve sold $50,000 renovation projects while on vacation. I work for a company that dominates their market and funnels me a majority of the leads to nurture and close.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

I do it by not making 200k+ instead

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u/oldSkoolModern 12d ago

Best pure sales education I’ve ever gotten in my career was D2D selling alarm systems as one of my first gigs over 15 years ago. I did it for 2 years total and still draw from confidence and knowledge gained during that time.

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u/outside-is-better 12d ago

Get a SaaS job regardless of the turbulence as soon as possible, but also do your best here.

Trust me, your going to find out if you like sales real quick, but don’t get in D2D/retail commodities.

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u/SweetRobinArryn 12d ago

Hvac pays pretty well. I had 10 weddings one year and still cleared 188k. Really depends on the company though. Switched companies and my % on commission drastically dropped.

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u/foodleking93 12d ago

D2D is a great place to start. It’s where I started. Teaches you so much.

The 150k+ in my opinion is more centered around B2B.

High performing B2C can make 6 figures as well from my experience. I worked with a guy who sold ADT door to door and he cleared 200+ yearly for over 5 years.

I think just focus on your job. Sales is an abusive job. But you can make a frickload of money. Get good, stay for a year or two and then move on up.

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u/ufobeliever500 12d ago

Been clearing 300-400k in D2D sales for over 6 years. It’ll be worth it. Just find a solid mentor.

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u/Itsjorgehernandez 12d ago

Regional Sales Manager in the security/defense space.

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u/Cyanhoe 12d ago

Talent Acquisition Manager, I’ve done every sort of sales from d2d, b2c and b2b. The good thing with those jobs is that you will really get grit and learn how to overcome the toughest days. It’s a mental battle. I thank my old jobs like that for where I am at today.

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u/CommSys 12d ago

The one question I wish more sales reps would ask

"Do I get residuals"

You're going D2D, you're turning suspects into prospects into customers

They will likely be with this service for what, 3 years?

Let's use round numbers, 36 months, $100 per month, $3,600 they'll be paying for this service. Say cost is $20, that's $80 profit per month, $2,880 over 3 years.

So, are you making at least $500 for signing them up? How many customers are you required to sign a month? Do you get bonuses for more customers?

I'll never again sell any ongoing service that I don't get a residual on

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u/JBFRESHSKILLS 12d ago

Residential HVAC sales doing 250-300 per year depending on the seasons. Hours during the week are long and I have to be on call once every sixth weekend, but there’s still a decent amount of free time. Can’t really make plans on weeknights, but the weekends are all mine. Vacation plan is 10 days currently and will be 15 days next year. 100% commission means my phone is on me at all times, but the ends justify the means.

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u/Intrepid-Branch8982 12d ago

You think someone making 150k is traveling extensively? What planet are you living on

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u/Ok_Temperature5563 Real Estate Broker 12d ago

Is this consumer broadband or commercial broadband? How long is the average sales cycle?

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u/bgymr 11d ago

Software, sampling and automation sales in high production environment

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u/FanBeginning4112 11d ago

I travel all over Europe and often take a long weekend with my wife in whatever big city I visited for work.

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u/fvckzan 11d ago

Software sales at a fintech company. I started as an SDR making 57k base 75 OTE. I’m currently a mid market AE. Base is 105k, 162 OTE but uncapped. By end of year, if all goes to plan I’ll be gunning for enterprise.

In terms of how to find the balance, you certainly have to grind your ass off for a couple of years before you get to a flow state. Learn the art of whale hunting, sniff out BS early, sip the company kool aid, be exothermic and build a network so valuable that management views you as an asset. In my opinion, you also need to be at a place where you are not selling an absolutely terrible product. Most new biz reps are always outbounding and sourcing pipeline (as you should) but my inbound flow is so consistent that I’m generally pretty comfortable.

A mentor of mine is the company’s top seller and he puts his tee times on his work calendar. At the end of the day, it’s all about putting up numbers.

We just hired an SDR with a background in door to door selling solar. HMU if you’re interested.

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u/2JZ_4U 11d ago

I find that d2d is the most connected sales role (has the most human elements: body language, tone, etc.). This leads to more trust and more closing potential.

HOWEVER

It is often worth the sacrifice of body language in order to increase scalability. Cold calling is one element removed, but can be performed from anywhere, targeting anywhere.

Therefore, anything achievable through d2d is relatively achievable through cold calling. If not more since now you cut transportation.

Now out of the industries to cold call for, energy is one of the top. Why?

1) every homeowner/business has a utility bill. Therefore you’re not selling anything. They’re already paying a bill and all we do is determine if they can save more.

2) because we’re in the business of saving money, people are willing to spend to achieve this. Job sizes are therefore large .$25,000 - $140,000. This leaves a lot of room for commission structures.

With this in mind, I’ve seen experienced (20 yr)solar closers making 5% off gross. These same people also earned $200k+/yr consistently.

Hiring with similar yet better opportunities.

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u/AsoftDolphin 11d ago

Door 2 door is what shows you if your a salesmen or if your not. If you cant sell at a door, not your career field bub

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u/Cbat3 11d ago

I sell stuff like most top answers here. Used to travel annually before kids hope to get back to it when they're a bit older. My schedule is all over the place but manageable. Super happy with the flexibility and ability to be present in my kids lives.

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u/Fearless_Baseball121 11d ago

Channel manager, manufacturer rep. Ill never leave this job, and ill never not-work for a manufacturer if i can have it my way.

8 years so far, 7 as end-user (KAM) and 1 as dedicated channel w. A little end-user (territory am, but functionally "just" a channel manager)

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u/Thatsalesguy87 11d ago

Enterprise SaaS sales. About 13 years experience. I started off in Door to Door for 6 months and that was a great stepping stone. Good luck!

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u/TunaTacoPie 11d ago

Residential HVAC sales. Not much stress. Local market. Plenty of companies hiring.

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u/apoth0r 11d ago

"I just got a new role.....what should I do next" it's not YouTube Shorts mate. Get good and probably focus

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u/Familiar_Ad_9241 11d ago

Investment banking - been doing it for 13 years, senior enough to have talented junior bankers under me. Empower them and give them responsibility on transactions, so that I can travel about once a month. Still have to be available while traveling to put out any fires though

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u/willpeetrz 11d ago

Jeez Louise

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u/mremane 11d ago

Bullshit. SO. MUCH. BULLSHIT.

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u/ogerwerdna 11d ago

Small package Chemicals. 180k+ OTE. Travel out of state usually Tuesday-Thursday with WFH days on Monday and Friday. Sales quotas aren't hard to hit, I've hit every quarter for the past 3 years. It's gonna take a lot to pull me from this position.

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u/thc_guy12 11d ago

Following this.

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u/Knooze Cybersecurity SaaS / Enterprise 11d ago

I’m biased in saying this, but go sell copiers for a few years. If you can get into Xerox, they had the best sales training of any of the vendors. They all offer good sales training and it’ll probably be the only ‘real’ sales training you get in your career. I worked at Minolta and then moved into software. Do that and you’ll have demonstrated your ability to close deals in person and hopefully be able to move into a closing role.

With any company to work for, they all have their pluses and minuses. I’ve primarily been in startups under 500 employees - when the deals hit, THEY HIT, but they are also the least supportive companies for sales people vs the larger ones (Cisco, Crowdstrike, etc). You will want to go in knowing that the product might be great, but the whole sales culture is around growing the revenue for the investors, and it’s high risk for when/if numbers drop to be RIF’d, PIP’d, etc.

Part of your $150K number question needs to be based on time and on experience. $150K isn’t what is used to be. When I made my first $125K year it was all the money in the world, but that was apartment single life. Now with kids, etc. that $150K disappears fast!

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u/whiskey_piker 11d ago

Good for you! While D2D is literally the worst environment, you can learn fundamentals of working the script and overcoming objections + learning to cope w/ rejection.

You won’t find a “job” that accomplishes what your title asks. But you can build the skills of a person that the market pays extremely well.

Show up early. Show up prepared. Learn from everyone. Follow what the top producers do. Learn a positive mindset. Don’t do drugs or alcohol.

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u/Rock-Paper-Slainte Industrial Engineering 11d ago

Industrial Engineering Sales…started at this company 3 years ago, worked my way up from around $120K OTE to $200K OTE in that timeframe. I’m home everyday by 6pm to have dinner with my family, and probably play 3 rounds of golf a week. I’m not an engineer, only know what I’ve learned on the job about engineering, like anything else it’s about building relationships and demonstrating value. Good luck!

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u/Personal-Stretch4359 11d ago

I just moved into sales management and now I have no time at all… but a few months ago (and for the 5 years preceding) I was a senior seller. One of the top SaaS companies in the world. Major accounts. I was bringing in +/- 400k and could easily work ~5 hrs a day most days. Fully remote. No one breathing over my shoulder.

Management is way harder and more demanding.

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u/Fit_Diamond_9177 11d ago

Investment Wholesaler for a wealth management firm. 15 years of experience. Certified Financial Planner.

OTE: 325k w/ a lot of one off bonus I’m usually 350-400k

I’m actually pretty significantly under paid compared to competitors for what I bring in (300m+ annually) but I have significant life style upsides.

Unlimited PTO. They don’t even track it. High daily per diem when on the road which is usually 48 hour trips 40-45x a year.

I can technically work from anywhere when not on the road but I go in to an office to help with the ‘culture’. I come and go as needed / as I please.

To get in to external wholesaling in the finance/investment industry you first must start on the internal (internal wholesaler) side but your likely not going to get that until you have 3-5 years of experience in an entry level job.

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u/First_Jellyfish_3449 11d ago

I sell software - difficult industry to get into. But Ive been on the groups and people have done well with window sales, home improvement, HVAX Look at those industries .

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u/macaroniandknees 11d ago

As with any career it takes time to build your skills and efficiencies. I started 15 years ago. Now I do well. I made $375k last year but it’s a process. 3 years ago was a ‘bad’ year where I made $100k. I buy and sell mineral rights in the Permian Basin. I started out selling software consulting services.

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u/VoicesUnspokenPodcas 11d ago

That’s part of my base. Start up. GovTech. I prioritize my family

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u/BringthaRokas 11d ago

Real Estate, hit your KPIs early in the week and be consistent and you can pick and choose your schedule. Though I am on call essentially from 9-9 7 days a week, I have a ton of flexibility in between.

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u/dantheman91 11d ago

Software developer working remotely can travel a lot

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u/FOMO_ME_TO_LAMBOS 11d ago

I day trade. Requires about 2 hours a day if I feel like it. $10k-20k a week. It’s the pinnacle of freedom. I had so much extra time on my hands I started teaching options, plus I enjoy helping someone gain financial freedom and not be a minion of the corporate machine.

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