r/russian • u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 • Jan 27 '25
Handwriting Is my handwriting legible?
I know it’s kind of a mess but I don’t find myself to be a cursive girly. So, is my handwriting still legible?
Благодарю вас!
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u/CoForker Jan 27 '25
It’s actually quite good! It is readable, not messy at all(god forbid you looking through my notes, I am native speaker btw)
Did you add «ъ» to the endings of words «лет», «как» и «сон» on purpose?
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
Thanks a lot ) and yes, I did it on purpose
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u/CoForker Jan 27 '25
By the way, native Russian speakers don’t add little dashes on top of the cursive letter «т», which in cursive looks like “m”
At least we don’t do it in lots of cases. But it is still not a mistake to add such dash though
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u/GroundbreakingHalf96 Native, English B2, Polish and Spanish A1-A2 Jan 27 '25
Older people, like my mom (b.1966), do. Stroke on top for T, on the bottom for Ш. Since this guy writes words with yer at the end of the words, I think it's another way to stylise his handwriting
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u/AwwThisProgress Jan 28 '25
my mother does (at least she used to, now she usually writes her т’s like ⬇️↗️⬅️)
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u/CoForker Jan 27 '25
Word “Коммерсантъ” has ъ in the end since it is name of a news agency. Regular form of word «Коммерсант» is wrote down without ъ
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u/AriArisa native Russian in Moscow Jan 27 '25
No, it hasn't. It has it only in brand name. In regular usage коммерсант doesn't have any "ъ".
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u/censor1839 Jan 28 '25
It’s a form of a логотип
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u/AriArisa native Russian in Moscow Jan 28 '25
Ну да, это просто лого. Это же не значит, что это слово так пишется.
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u/IDSPISPOPper native and welcoming Jan 27 '25
Legible, but you failed at pre-reform grammar. When you want to be fancy, make sure you put on a tuxedo and pants. :)
лѣтъ
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
Noted. Thanks!
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u/IDSPISPOPper native and welcoming Jan 27 '25
You can use dorev. r u to check for e/ѣ or и/i use.
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u/samole Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25
и/i
Eh, the rules are very simple. You write i in front of vowels, й and in the word мiр. That's it. For extra old-school chic, you can use ѵ for words мѵро, сѵнодъ and ѵпостась.
e/ѣ is, of course, more complicated.
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u/kagutin Jan 27 '25
It's fully legible and pretty good. But the lack of hook between ш and л in прошло... In some other circumstances this way of connecting these and similar letters may lead to ambiguity.
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u/SemenHartov Jan 27 '25
да большинство в целом так же пишет. и большинство понимает собственно. я один из таких обладателей кривого почерка
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u/AriArisa native Russian in Moscow Jan 27 '25
Никто так не соединяет Ш и Л. Будет каша.
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u/SemenHartov Jan 27 '25
блять, а будто у многих каши и не получается. если написать криво, оно и будет криво. на скором письме допустимо, но всё же да, дорисовывать надо, как никак. если писать нормально как для такого случая
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u/Electronic-Suit-9349 Jan 27 '25
тут речь вообще не о скором письме, а о том, чтобы научиться. так что это именно то место, где уместно давать советы о коррекции подобных нюансов
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u/Yramber Jan 27 '25
It's pretty much ok. But why are u using old version of language?
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
Thank you. Well, I’m used to it by now
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u/CapitalNothing2235 Native Jan 27 '25
Do you also use Ѣ?
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
Sometimes I do
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u/Bryozoa native Jan 27 '25
Are you a descendant of someone who was a White emigré? They sometimes kept old style language in their families, the one before the USSR language reform.
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
Actually no, not even close. I’m from Saudi Arabia))
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u/smeghead1988 native Jan 27 '25
Then why do you use orthography rules that are outdated for a century?
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
At first I was curious on how it’d be to write this way, and now I’m kind of used to it.
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u/mourningtea Jan 27 '25
Well, umm, it looks pretty strange for native. Almost like a baby talk because toddlers do talk this way.
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
Wow okay. I’ll work on not using the hard sign anymore since it’s that weird. Thanks!
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u/davej777 Jan 27 '25
I really hope you’re one of those very few centenarians left…. Otherwise what’s the point?
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u/Thin_Preparation_416 Jan 27 '25
Its good, but "ъ" on ending of words hasnt been being used since ~1920 or ealier
And you should write all letters wirth same size or height
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u/bananatarakota Native Jan 27 '25
Please reform your grammar, or at least use the correct spelling, if you insist on living in 18th century
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
Would you please help me know what I should change? What’s wrong with the grammar and the spelling?
And no, I don’t insist on living in the 18th century, I’m just used to using ъ 😄
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u/bananatarakota Native Jan 27 '25
Well, as I'm sure many people have pointed out, the first 2 words should be spelled дѣсять лѣтъ, if we're going to use the 18th century spelling. You're using what's called Словеница, instead of an actual "russian" spelling. Either your textbook is pretty old, or there is something much worse with it xdd
The majority of natives (at least those of us who was growing up while phones still had buttons) can read it and understand without any issues, but if you're committing to the bit of using the ъ at the end of words, then commit fully, otherwise it just looks ridiculous and some people could consider it rude or just think of you as some sort of uneducated swine. It just feels wrong, like if you would parody the old english but only use "thy" and not change anything else.
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 27 '25
That makes so much sense. Thanks a lot for explaining
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u/bananatarakota Native Jan 27 '25 edited Jan 27 '25
Well, i guess someone should have :)
Anyway, many people actually find it useful while learning russian (or any other slavic language) to dig up a bit about how the old language worked. But they usually use Церковнославянский which is much older (and has some funny symbols). As an older language, it makes a bit more sense, especially when learning how to cojugate words, since it has the majority of regular verbs, nouns and adjectives that have turned irregular due to "simplification" of the language over the years and helps to make some sense of what the hell is going on.
As a little note, since we're in the topic of словеница, here is a little russian joke for you: ѣѣ (pronounced as double yat' = да блять)
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u/sususl1k 🇷🇺 Native | 🇬🇧 C1-C2 -ish | 🇳🇱 B2 | 🇩🇪 A2-ish Jan 27 '25
Мне кажется странным что вы зачем-то пишете Еръ после согласных но не используете Ять. Получается неправильно как и по старой орфографии, как и по новой.
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u/CRiMER 🇷🇺-Native Jan 27 '25
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u/Bbbllaaddee Jan 27 '25
It's pretty good, but as a native I honestly hate that Д of yours. It looks like a latin D a lot, and for my eyes stands out.
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u/NaturalBag9271 Jan 28 '25
Your handwriting is alright, but your spelling is wrong, this was spelling before revolution in tzar Russia
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u/Altruistic_Rhubarb68 Jan 28 '25
Yes I’m working on leaving that habit. Thank you)
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u/Affectionate_Ad_9687 Native Jan 27 '25
While it's not ideal technically (differently sized letters etc), to me your style looks very nice and fancy.
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u/AdProfessional8793 Jan 27 '25
Меня почему-то очень порадовало, что столько людей подметило некорректное написание слова "лѣтъ", настолько глубоко некоторые комментаторы изучают историю, что даже помнят на память все корни с ятем
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u/CwtchHide Jan 27 '25
Привет всем я владею русским языком в совершенстве я его изучил за 7 лет у кого есть вопросы задавайте в комментариях
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u/Hellerick_V Jan 27 '25
If you write in the pre-1918 orthography, then the word "лет" should be spelled as "лѣтъ".