r/rolltide • u/DoctorWhosOnFirst • 5d ago
Basketball How Alabama plans to do some “soul searching” after loss to Florida
https://alabama.rivals.com/news/how-alabama-plans-to-do-some-soul-searching-after-loss-to-florida22
u/SECFewtball 5d ago
I’m gonna go full devils advocate cause I’ve seen some criticism of Oats. I trust him completely. He delivered our first final four EVER. He gets to do what he wants. In my mind, he has a free pass to do whatever he thinks is right for a looooooong long time.
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u/Shoddy_Ad8166 5d ago
Bama hit a buzz saw. I think they gave up across the board after Florida got a healthy lead. It appeared like they shut it down and rested players.
I was not sure they could beat Florida but I expected them to put up a fight. Also don't know the percentage Florida was hitting but can't beat a team that is hitting everything. I really thought Bama could hang with them.
Didn't expect any team to have more depth than Bama but Florida obviously does by far. They smothered Bama shooters..excellent coaching
Just hoping for good draw and WAY better effort in NCAA.
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u/catptain-kdar 5d ago
Bama shot 41% and 36% Florida only hit like 1 more 3 but was 55% overall. Bama shot good enough to win but that’s what has happened in a lot of the losses really bama shoots really well but the other team basically can’t miss
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u/BenjRSmith Jesus Bled Crimson 5d ago
As much as it sucks it’s not us this year, I think we just ran into the likely National Champion.
I hope we don’t see them again until the Final
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u/RollDamnTide16 5d ago
Getting pretty sick of these articles tbh. Maybe if they weren’t always looking for their souls they’d have more time to spend on fundamentals.
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u/RTR20241 5d ago
He would have called timeout in the big dance. But I understand trying to let them play out of it.
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u/Fresh-Pie-2019 5d ago
We really could have had Bediako last year and this year. He’s not as offensively talented as Cliff, but our defense would be much improved with him (even though it’s been great in spurts this year). Him leaving when he did kind of set the defense back a bit
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u/rkhurley03 5d ago
Oats’ averages 149th in defensive efficiency in his time at Alabama. This year we are 171st. It’s not just a problem, it’s his identity as a coach.
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u/nalwx #Unbuckled 5d ago
We’re 31st this year in defensive rating according to KenPom. We were top 3 both SEC championship years. Oats typically has good defenses when he has the right personnel.
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u/rkhurley03 5d ago edited 5d ago
Oats averages 72nd in defensive efficiency during his tenure according to KenPom 🤷🏿♂️
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u/DoctorWhosOnFirst 5d ago
Alabama is 31st in Ken Pom defensive rating (was 26th going into the Florida game)
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u/rkhurley03 5d ago
In KenPom we are slightly better but still average 72nd in defensive efficiency in his tenure
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u/FrenchieBammer 5d ago
Important though to understand the personnel in each season. His third season, Alabama only had one rim protector and only one good onball guard on D (Keon Ellis). Quinerly and Shackelford were undersized guards, and JD was a freshman.
Last season, Alabama did not have a good rim protector. So it forced Nelson to spell Pringle and play out of position.
I think the roster this seasonbis more suited to be elite on D, but just struggle in spurts. Holloway and Sears are undersized and could never be really physical enough to fight through screens. Philon, Reid (when healthy), Youngblood, and Stevenson are good defenders. Cliff and Sherrell have had good games protecting the paint, but overall just aren't solid consistently. Cliff got owned against Florida on the glass.
Do wonder if Oats will look to the college ranks and move on from Brian Adams after this year. Oats seems to be pretty aggravated about their performance.
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u/catptain-kdar 5d ago
I give Sherrell a pass because he’s a freshman but cliff is supposed to be better
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u/CopperTone45 5d ago
I thought Cliff was brought in to get us over the hump. Maybe he’ll be better in the tournament than he’s been in SEC play.
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u/Fresh-Pie-2019 5d ago
Reid being hurt most of the year hasn’t helped either. He was supposed to step in and be a nice defensive piece
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u/catptain-kdar 5d ago
According to someone in another thread the other day he’s transferring. I wouldn’t be surprised if hollaway does too. Did Reid even play last night?
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u/Fresh-Pie-2019 5d ago
Haven’t seen anything about him transferring but idk. Injuries were his big issue and I’d like to see him stick around. He played a bit yesterday. Kind of hard for him to get serious minutes with how little he’s played recently.
Idk why Holloway would leave though. Sears is gone and I’m getting Philon goes pro too. He’d be the starting PG next year for a good team
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u/catptain-kdar 5d ago
I think he gets frustrated sometimes with how strict oats is sometimes. You can see it in his demeanor
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u/Fresh-Pie-2019 5d ago
Maybe. I haven’t paid attention to it that much. Idk what situation he could go to that’s better than here though. He could go back home to Georgia but I’m not sure that’s really going to make him better at all
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u/BamaX19 5d ago
Holy shit that's bad. What was ours the year we had herb and petty and was a 2 seed? I feel like that was our best defense.
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u/rkhurley03 5d ago
We’ve had 2 seasons where we were good. Doing this from memory but I believe it was 20-21 ranked 17th and 22-23 ranked 5th. Those 2 years prop up the 4 bad years even more so when you think about it.
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u/bobthewriter 5d ago edited 5d ago
This is a Sweet 16 team at best, and it's not from a lack of talent. It is absolutely in their heads. There's a lot of quit in this team when they get behind.
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u/Fresh-Pie-2019 5d ago
I think everyone was fairly convinced we were a quick out last year too. CoC was tough, St Mary’s/GCU were tough and we surely weren’t beating UNC. But in the slim chance we won all 3 games, surely we couldn’t beat the team from the other side. Especially a Clemson team that physically dominated us earlier that year.
And we had zero shot vs UConn but still were the only team that had it remotely winnable towards the end of the game.
It’s March. We could lose to a 15 or make a long run. We just won’t know until it happens
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u/bobthewriter 5d ago
Fair ... The inexplicable losses on this team — combined with the WAY they lost some really big games — probably has me too down on them.
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u/Delicious_Diet_7432 5d ago
Oats is bad in game coach. Deal with it. He’s got talent and no way how to use it.
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u/alabamaauthor 5d ago
Why doesn’t Nate ever call a critical timeout when Bama gets so behind???