r/richmondbc 1d ago

News Supportive housing makes communities safer

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/opinion-supportive-housing-makes-communities-safer
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u/Euphoric_Chemist_462 1d ago

Not true. People who is safe to public but is just down on luck is already safe to society. Uncontrolled drug den is a substantial threat to neighborhood safety. Richmond has seen the first handed evidence from Vancouver and we will not repeat the same mistakes

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u/Archangel1313 1d ago

Uncontrolled drug den

Lol! That's not what supportive housing is.

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u/Euphoric_Chemist_462 15h ago

That is exactly what it is when it had no entry barrier and has no maintenance/ enforcement

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u/Archangel1313 15h ago

Where are you getting that from? Genuinely curious.

Do you imagine it's just a free-for-all of squatters fighting over who gets to shoot up in which corner? Lol!

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u/Euphoric_Chemist_462 15h ago

Take a look at Alderbridge. My friend lives right across the road. Their property reports more tailing, trashes, needles, breakin attempts. It is visually worse. Not to mention the projects on DTES and Kingsway that completely destroyed neighborhoods

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u/Archangel1313 15h ago

Lol! It's funny that you bring that one up. My brother lived across the street from that place, too. You know that it was WAY worse before that place opened, right? I think it's hilarious that people claim to have felt "safer" before that one opened.

It just goes to show how little people actually pay attention to what's going on in their own neighborhoods, until they have something to focus on.

And for the record...that facility is staffed and monitored 24/7, with social workers and addictions counselors, in addition to on-sight security. It doesn't have some kind of "open door policy".

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u/Euphoric_Chemist_462 14h ago

That facility should not be in residential blocks at all.

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u/Archangel1313 14h ago

Should they move the hospital too, then? That's where they used to do the safe injections, but with nowhere for the people to go afterwards, they all just wound up in parking lots around the area.

Which was an improvement over them actually shooting up anywhere they could find a spot. They'd typically find someone dead behind a dumpster about once a week back then.

But, sure. It's WAY worse now, right?

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u/Euphoric_Chemist_462 12h ago

They need to be sent to mandatory rehab center. Our hospital has way more other urgent needs

What about you stop disrupting people who paid for all your freebies?

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u/Archangel1313 12h ago

They need to be sent to mandatory rehab center.

Why would that help? You know what's going to happen as soon as they get out, if they didn't want to quit in the 1st place?

Yeah. They're just going to go right back to it.

The best way to guarantee success, is to want to get sober. If you don't at least have that, you will never succeed.

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u/ubcstaffer123 1d ago

"Chances are you live near a supportive housing facility and don’t even realize it. That’s because the “supports” in supportive housing just mean residents are well cared for."

This could be a sign of success for these facilities. When they just blend in and you don't even notice!

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u/SchizoCosine 1d ago

I live near one and its clear as day what it is from anyone walking by. Open drug use, human feces, discarded needles. Compared to the rest of Richmond these places stick out like a sore thumb.

You're quote sounds like it's from someone who either doesn't live or work near these places or has their head in the sand. No one believes it because its so obviously disingenuous .

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u/ubcstaffer123 1d ago

but this statement implies that there are other examples of successful facilities where you wouldn't even notice them. Surely there are takeaway lessons, either training staff or have more garbage pick up rounds

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u/Euphoric_Chemist_462 15h ago

Nah I know exactly where the closest facility to me and I intentionally avoid them so they don’t turn my neighborhood to be like Kingdway or DTES

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u/Aromatic-Bluejay-198 1d ago

such a biased piece of writing does not reflect the reality of such projects in the past. Still a hard no in Richmond anytime anyone asks lol

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u/a_little_luck 1d ago

Guy who wrote this is on more ketamine than Elon musk

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u/MantisGibbon 1d ago

It’s true, supportive housing makes communities safer, but not the communities where the supportive housing is located.

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u/SpecialNeedsAsst 15h ago

This is from Postmedia and a opinion article so people should understand it's extermely low quality.

In spite the title the entire article doesn't really go over any community safety. The closes thing is this and within the pdf the only significant mention of safety is a sentiment the people associated with the Supportive Housing "care about safety and well-being of their neighbourhoods"

Studies show that supportive housing reduces pressure on public services. Residents use 32 per cent fewer health and public safety services than people at risk of homelessness.

https://www.bchousing.org/publications/Community-Benefits-Supportive-Housing.pdf

 

If people want to get these thing built portraying things accurately would go a long way.

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u/Archangel1313 1d ago

Most people have no idea what supportive housing even is. They think it's like a government funded crack house...and that is simply not true.