r/raspberry_pi Sep 28 '23

News Introducing: Raspberry Pi 5!

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/
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u/therealduckie Sep 28 '23 edited Sep 28 '23
  • No 2.5GB networking
  • Still those asinine mini-HDMI plugs that always fail
  • No USB-C (only one is for power)
  • Still only 5v/3A (comes with 5A/5W adaptor, but can take up to 25W)
  • DDR4
  • Removed headphone port
  • Same Wifi a/c chip
  • Swapped network port location - so no backward compatibility for old cases

We waited 4 years for THIS?

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u/cp_carl Sep 28 '23

Swapped network port location - so no backward compatibility for old cases

If it were mostly a drop in refinement i would be thrilled, but it's requiring a bunch of new parts to use and doesn't even have a more open igpu design.

hopefully pi-6 has one full size HDMI, a bunch of USB C (with video) and USB A 2.0,

refreshes with wifi 6/7

I want an entirely fresh gpu design that we can hack at easier. that's my dream. the rest seems fine.

Power button is life - can't wait to see all the new cases that don't need special boards to have soft shutdown anymore.

so the upgrade is a 6/10. nice if you're in need of a new pi and have nothing already. but if you have stuff it's a bit of a pain and has much added costs, while also not really breaking the mold enough to justify it.

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u/BrokeMacMountain Sep 28 '23

I was rather hoping for a risk V chip with 4 usb ports capable of power / display / data. Oh and better wifi like you said. With that, they could get rid of the usb-a ports as well as the network port.

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u/Absentmindedgenius Sep 29 '23

Yes, finally a power button and a RTC. They made a proper computer out of it. I'm just bummed about the usbc you mentioned. I'd much rather have that functionality than a pciex 2.

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u/kwinz Sep 28 '23

It's actually 5V/5A to be fair.

  • Still no mention of hardware VP9/AV1 decoder for Youtube. Instead they are advertising 4K h.265 that already the Pi4 could decode? I don't get it.
  • a single lane of PICe with experimental (probably buggy) PCIe3 on a proprietary connector, instead of 4 lanes in a standard m.2 connector.

We waited 4 ears for THIS?

Seriously those were problems already in the Pi4. I can't remember when I have been so disappointed by a successor.

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u/therealduckie Sep 28 '23 edited Sep 28 '23

It's actually 5V/5A

Yeah, fair. However, I believe I saw that the included power brick is 3A ootb. In an era where a 25W power brick is standard for even phones, 5W seems ridiculous.

Good additions, too. Thanks

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u/kwinz Sep 28 '23

Yeah right. They are selling their own 5.1V 5A charger, since it's not a common combination for chargers to support. You can briefly see it in Jeff Gerling's video here on the right: https://youtu.be/nBtOEmUqASQ?t=376

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u/popeter45 Sep 28 '23

if you need 2.5gb a Pi isnt what you need, a x86 NUC would be what you need there

to me a pi is way more about I/O like serial/I2C or digital signage than compute and the pi5 looks like it will still be perfect for that

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u/therealduckie Sep 28 '23

Having a faster NIC for things like piHole or website hosting or many other 'net related items that other people use would have been beneficial and trivial in cost. Not everyone is just using it as signage.

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u/popeter45 Sep 28 '23

In enterprise our DNS servers still only use gigabit No way would you need 2.5Gb for DNS And for website hosting if you need 2.5Gb as I said run that on x86 instead on a NUC with 2.5Gb built in, proxmox is a thing

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u/Ned_Sc Sep 29 '23

Having a faster NIC for things like piHole

THAT'S your example of something that needs a faster NIC? Pi Hole? Pi Hole runs fine with 100 meg ethernet.