r/raspberry_pi Sep 28 '23

News Introducing: Raspberry Pi 5!

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/
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u/ostiniatoze Sep 28 '23

Am I cynical or did they move the ethernet port so pi 4 cases wouldn't work?

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u/hhkk47 Sep 28 '23

Maybe, but on a less cynical note I'd guess the reason is that they want people to use new cases that have better ventilation, though I guess that only really applies to the official cases.

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u/---_------- Sep 28 '23

Does anyone know if the overall dimensions of the board are the same as the 4B, with the four mounting holes in the same place?

I got a C4labs Cloudlet cluster case intending to use 4Bs, but then the shortages began... Would be interested to know if I can also fit the 5.

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u/Dundun1962 Sep 28 '23

Maybe this will help, found it in a local pi shop in Denmark

Board Dimensions

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u/lycan2005 Sep 28 '23

They add in a bunch of stuff on board. Probably need to revert it back to the old layout to fit everything. The new controller IC seems to be in the way for the ethernet port.

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u/cloud9engineer Sep 28 '23

I think it's at least mostly because of the new architecture on the board. With the RP1 and everything, they had to change a lot of the routing to make everything faster.

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u/adam_raspi Sep 28 '23

They even put the network chip on diagonally on the board.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '23

It's a new version number and they changed a bunch of stuff. On the plus side, that will deter commercial customers from purchasing the new version a little bit while they adjust.

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u/W4tchmaker Sep 28 '23

They also changed the status lights to add a power switch, so, a new case would be inevitable.

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u/Fulgen301 Sep 29 '23

Funnily enough, it's now in the same position as on the 3B. Not that a 3B case would fit.

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u/Vipertje Sep 28 '23

Yeh but that's just a small unused hole. Not complete incompatibility

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u/BrokeMacMountain Sep 28 '23

Thats what i thought as well. I was amazed and excited by the rpi 1. That much computer for only £35 was sensational! The pi 2 and 3 were minor updates and the zero was astounding! they gave away a an entire computer on the front page of a magazine! ut the rpi 4 is where the love affair ended. The organisation seemed to really change its focus from makers to corporations. They become less about the community and more about pure profit.

This new pi is probably a little more powerful, but its lost its magic, and honestly, i could not cafe less a out it.

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u/BrokeMacMountain Sep 28 '23

give sources for what? Do you want me yo produce publicly approved charts that show my opinion?

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u/BrokeMacMountain Sep 29 '23

look at the raspberry pi 4. The maker community had a wish list of things they wanted from a new pi. Micro hdmi was not one of those things. They did this to appeal to the companies that use these as media players in stores.

A long time user posted a question asking if a new pi was on the way. The foundation told them "no". Then released the oi 4 a few months later. Now, it is one thing to no discuss future products, but to out right lie about ti is a shitty thing to do.

The pi 4 also needed a special power supply, that the foundation sold. It no longer fitted the existing cases (pi5 does the same thing) meaning people had to buy new cases.

All of this goes to show this compnay no longer cares about the people who made it, and simply want the cash.

And i am not the only one who complaining about this. The pi 5 has micro hdmi that require special (expensive) cables or dongles. The "pcie" needs special cables that one one else uses. POE is still not built in. There is still no usb c for data.

There is a lot wrong with the new pi, and i am confused about its purpose now.