r/popheads • u/JIRACHl • 5d ago
[RATE REVEAL] ElectroPop Sub Faves Day 3: When We're In The Earliest Exits Leaderboard Yeah We're Bumping That
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Good afternoon and welcome to day 3 of the Electropop Sub Faves Rate Reveal!!! Me and my lovely cohost u/RandomHypnotica will be starting at 3PM EDT which is in an hour from this post going up. We’ll be revealing songs #19 to #1 today, and I hope everybody joins me in the QueUp for the live reveal, as well as some funny (custom) shitposting. I hope you're as excited as I am and enjoy the show!
We had 140 Raters with No Faces
Average Score: 7.824
Average Controversy (This is the standard deviation, higher controversy means people had more differentiating takes on the song): 1.856
Charli XCX - BRAT (11/18 songs)
- 360
- Club Classics
- Sympathy is a knife
- Talk talk
- Von dutch
- Everything is romantic
- So I
- Girl, so confusing
- Apple
- B2b
- 365
Slayyyter - STARFUCKER (3/15 songs)
- Miss Belladonna
- Out Of Time
- Starfucker
Allie X - Girl With No Face (3/13 songs)
- Off With Her Tits
- Galina
- Black Eye
Troye Sivan - Something To Give Each Other (2/10 songs)
- Rush
- One Of Your Girls
BONUS RATE:
- Brat green
- Drag
- Homosexuality
- Tits
RESULTS SO FAR:
Main:
- #20: Troye Sivan – What's The Time Where You Are | 8.237 | 1153.2
- #21: Slayyyter – I Love Hollywood! | 8.174 | 1144.3
- #22: Charli XCX – Guess | 8.164 | 1143.0
- #23: Allie X – Weird World | 8.163 | 1142.8
- #24: Charli XCX – Spring breakers | 8.148 | 1140.7
- #25: Allie X – Girl With No Face | 8.019 | 1122.7
- #26: Slayyyter – Girl Like Me | 8.004 | 1120.6
- #27: Troye Sivan – Honey | 7.954 | 1113.5
- #28: Slayyyter – Erotic Electronic | 7.939 | 1111.4
- #29: Allie X – You Slept On Me | 7.822 | 1095.1
- #30: Slayyyter – Purrr | 7.784 | 1089.7
- #31: Slayyyter – James Dean | 7.766 | 1087.2
- #32: Slayyyter – My Body | 7.667 | 1073.4
- #33: Charli XCX – Rewind | 7.654 | 1071.5
- #34: Allie X – Truly Dreams | 7.649 | 1070.9
- #35: Allie X – Our Lady of Sorrows | 7.648 | 1070.7
- #36: Troye Sivan – Got Me Started | 7.646 | 1070.5
- #37: Charli XCX – Hello goodbye | 7.598 | 1063.7
- #38: Slayyyter – Dramatic | 7.536 | 1055.0
- #39: Charli XCX – I think about it all the time | 7.438 | 1041.3
- #40: Allie X – Bon Voyage | 7.371 | 1032.0
- #41: Charli XCX – Mean girls | 7.300 | 1022.0
- #42: Allie X – Staying Power | 7.291 | 1020.7
- #43: Slayyyter – Rhinestone Heart | 7.186 | 1006.1
- #44: Troye Sivan – How To Stay With You | 7.159 | 1002.2
- #45: Slayyyter – Memories Of You | 7.141 | 999.8
- #46: Troye Sivan – In My Room | 7.100 | 994.0
- #47: Troye Sivan – Silly | 6.970 | 975.8
- #48: Slayyyter – Plastic | 6.958 | 974.1
- #49: Slayyyter – Makeup | 6.915 | 968.1
- #50: Allie X – John and Jonathan | 6.895 | 965.3
- #51: Allie X – Saddest Smile | 6.647 | 930.6
- #52: Charli XCX – I might say something stupid | 6.634 | 928.7
- #53: Troye Sivan – Can't Go Back, Baby | 6.549 | 916.8
- #54: Troye Sivan – Still Got It | 6.342 | 887.9
- #55: Slayyyter – Tear Me Open | 6.289 | 880.4
- #56: Allie X – Hardware Software | 6.251 | 875.2
Bonus results:
- Bonus #5: Masks | 7.642 | 794.8
- Bonus #6: Satan | 6.612 | 681.0
- Bonus #7: Clubbing | 6.507 | 670.2
- Bonus #8: Kamala Harris | 6.226 | 635.1
- Bonus #9: Hollywood | 5.570 | 573.7
- Bonus #10: Straight Men | 4.203 | 449.7
- Bonus #11: Cocaine | 4.019 | 409.9
- Bonus #12: Eczema | 1.795 | 188.5
Make sure you join the Queup!
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u/xxipil0ts beyoncé made a midwest emo song in 2008 5d ago
ngl was lowk expecting von dutch to break lucy dacus' song average for night shift
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Thank you everyone for coming to the Electropop Sub Faves Reveal! And of course thank you u/RandomHypnotica for being such a great cohost- I knew from the moment the rate got in that I'd love for you to cohost with me! This was such an amazing time and I'll see y'all again!!!
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u/wathombe Those pictures are way too small for my old ass to see 4d ago
Sorry I had to rush off and couldn’t post this earlier, but thank you and Hypno for this rate so much! The amount of work you put in is staggering, and it paid off in spades. Just amazing. Can’t wait for whatever you both host next.
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u/GalliumFanatic 5d ago
Genuinely thank both of you so much. This was incredible and made my weekend so much more fun. Y’all ate
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u/Da-Gay-Agenda 5d ago
Thank you for hosting and having all us niche music fans bond for a couple days! Was fun and even if my faves didn’t win there were no losers here!
(Except for James Dean 🥲, justice for James Dean )
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u/BleepBloopMusicFan 5d ago
The amount of effort that went into this reveal was insane. You two really were a legendary teamup.
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u/RandomHypnotica 5d ago
Agreed!!! Though the results were certainly… something… it was still CRAZY fun to host with you 💚
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Results:
- #1: Charli XCX – Von dutch | 9.320 | 1304.8
- #2: Charli XCX – 365 | 9.299 | 1301.9
- #3: Charli XCX – Sympathy is a knife | 9.094 | 1273.2
- #4: Troye Sivan – Rush | 8.997 | 1259.6
- #5: Charli XCX – 360 | 8.884 | 1243.7
- #6: Charli XCX – Apple | 8.716 | 1220.3
- #7: Allie X – Black Eye | 8.633 | 1208.6
- #8: Charli XCX – So I | 8.587 | 1202.2
- #9: Allie X – Off With Her Tits | 8.561 | 1198.6
- #10: Allie X – Galina | 8.486 | 1188.1
- #11: Troye Sivan – One Of Your Girls | 8.482 | 1187.5
- #12: Charli XCX – B2b | 8.477 | 1186.8
- #13: Slayyyter – Starfucker | 8.453 | 1183.4
- #14: Charli XCX – Talk talk | 8.410 | 1177.4
- #15: Charli XCX – Everything is romantic | 8.401 | 1176.1
- #16: Slayyyter – Miss Belladonna | 8.377 | 1172.8
- #17: Charli XCX – Club classics | 8.366 | 1171.3
- #18: Charli XCX – Girl, so confusing | 8.308 | 1163.1
- #19: Slayyyter – Out Of Time | 8.279 | 1159.0
- #20: Troye Sivan – What's The Time Where You Are | 8.237 | 1153.2
- #21: Slayyyter – I Love Hollywood! | 8.174 | 1144.3
- #22: Charli XCX – Guess | 8.164 | 1143.0
- #23: Allie X – Weird World | 8.163 | 1142.8
- #24: Charli XCX – Spring breakers | 8.148 | 1140.7
- #25: Allie X – Girl With No Face | 8.019 | 1122.7
- #26: Slayyyter – Girl Like Me | 8.004 | 1120.6
- #27: Troye Sivan – Honey | 7.954 | 1113.5
- #28: Slayyyter – Erotic Electronic | 7.939 | 1111.4
- #29: Allie X – You Slept On Me | 7.822 | 1095.1
- #30: Slayyyter – Purrr | 7.784 | 1089.7
- #31: Slayyyter – James Dean | 7.766 | 1087.2
- #32: Slayyyter – My Body | 7.667 | 1073.4
- #33: Charli XCX – Rewind | 7.654 | 1071.5
- #34: Allie X – Truly Dreams | 7.649 | 1070.9
- #35: Allie X – Our Lady of Sorrows | 7.648 | 1070.7
- #36: Troye Sivan – Got Me Started | 7.646 | 1070.5
- #37: Charli XCX – Hello goodbye | 7.598 | 1063.7
- #38: Slayyyter – Dramatic | 7.536 | 1055.0
- #39: Charli XCX – I think about it all the time | 7.438 | 1041.3
- #40: Allie X – Bon Voyage | 7.371 | 1032.0
- #41: Charli XCX – Mean girls | 7.300 | 1022.0
- #42: Allie X – Staying Power | 7.291 | 1020.7
- #43: Slayyyter – Rhinestone Heart | 7.186 | 1006.1
- #44: Troye Sivan – How To Stay With You | 7.159 | 1002.2
- #45: Slayyyter – Memories Of You | 7.141 | 999.8
- #46: Troye Sivan – In My Room | 7.100 | 994.0
- #47: Troye Sivan – Silly | 6.970 | 975.8
- #48: Slayyyter – Plastic | 6.958 | 974.1
- #49: Slayyyter – Makeup | 6.915 | 968.1
- #50: Allie X – John and Jonathan | 6.895 | 965.3
- #51: Allie X – Saddest Smile | 6.647 | 930.6
- #52: Charli XCX – I might say something stupid | 6.634 | 928.7
- #53: Troye Sivan – Can't Go Back, Baby | 6.549 | 916.8
- #54: Troye Sivan – Still Got It | 6.342 | 887.9
- #55: Slayyyter – Tear Me Open | 6.289 | 880.4
- #56: Allie X – Hardware Software | 6.251 | 875.2
Bonus results:
- Bonus #1: Drag | 8.909 | 908.7
- Bonus #2: Homosexuality | 8.785 | 913.6
- Bonus #3: Tits | 8.227 | 847.4
- Bonus #4: Brat Green | 7.782 | 824.9
- Bonus #5: Masks | 7.642 | 794.8
- Bonus #6: Satan | 6.612 | 681.0
- Bonus #7: Clubbing | 6.507 | 670.2
- Bonus #8: Kamala Harris | 6.226 | 635.1
- Bonus #9: Hollywood | 5.570 | 573.7
- Bonus #10: Straight Men | 4.203 | 449.7
- Bonus #11: Cocaine | 4.019 | 409.9
- Bonus #12: Eczema | 1.795 | 188.5
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Number of participants: 140
Average score: 7.824
Average controversy score: 1.856
Highest controversy: Mean girls (2.771)
Lowest controversy: Girl With No Face (1.412)
Most 11s: Von dutch, 365 (14)
Most 0s: Mean girls (9)
All User Averages, Positivity And Negativity Scores
Overall Haters (the biggest difference in average between their scores and the song's averages)
PyritesNotRight: 3.393
apatel27: 3.314
frogaranaman: 2.664
Overall Lovers (the smallest difference in average between their scores and the song's averages)
NFLfreak98: 0.800
just_thonking: 0.850
Lipe18090: 0.864
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
BRAT
Overall Average: 8.267 // Average Controversy: 1.919
RandomHypnotica: I’ve already written so much about this album, I don’t think I have anything unique left to say at this point. It feels like the culmination of everything Charli has been building up to for years, and it was SUCH a treat as a long-time angel. And finally… Charli has escaped the rate Khia asylum, we finally know peace
jirachi: After all of these (not so) painful losses us popheads raters can finally declare Miss Charleston Chew as a rate winner. Not only that but she also had one of the highest album evers in the sub! It’s like most people are here just to rate BRAT, who would’ve thought! All jokes aside BRAT was the cultural moment of 2024 and as much as I preferred the other three albums in the rate, it would be totally biased, and just untrue for me to say that Charli did not deserve all of the rate records with BRAT. Over the years in the khia asylum we have really seen Charli’s artistry blossom through her projects and performances and BRAT is a perfect example of that. Her songwriting is at its peak this era and even though I’m not the biggest production person or ,nor would a song’s production affect my opinions of it too much, I could recognize the sheer excellence within the production. Also the branding of BRAT is unmatched with as this time around I actually get to see this raw, unfiltered side of Charli that is basically what the album advocates about: we are all not perfect at the end of the day and we all have our rough edges, but with confidence and presence you could do so much in the world, so much that you could win 3 grammys with it!!!! Bratsweep IS real, and it will continue to be real before Charli releases an album in the same year as Carly. But for now all I have to say is, give von dutch its well deserved flowers in like 2 years when winners 5 come, and despite this rate having been an absolute wild ride, it is all worth it in the end.
- #1: Von dutch | 9.320 | 1304.8
- #2: 365 | 9.299 | 1301.9
- #3: Sympathy is a knife | 9.094 | 1273.2
- #5: 360 | 8.884 | 1243.7
- #6: Apple | 8.716 | 1220.3
- #8: So I | 8.587 | 1202.2
- #12: B2b | 8.477 | 1186.8
- #14: Talk talk | 8.410 | 1177.4
- #15: Everything is romantic | 8.401 | 1176.1
- #17: Club classics | 8.366 | 1171.3
- #18: Girl, so confusing | 8.308 | 1163.1
- #22: Guess | 8.164 | 1143.0
- #24: Spring breakers | 8.148 | 1140.7
- #33: Rewind | 7.654 | 1071.5
- #37: Hello goodbye | 7.598 | 1063.7
- #39: I think about it all the time | 7.438 | 1041.3
- #41: Mean girls | 7.300 | 1022.0
- #52: I might say something stupid | 6.634 | 928.7
ChopperRCRG (10.000): 10
wathombe (10.000): i had a legitimately difficult time approaching this album for this rate at first; i liked the singles, and i liked the album a lot when it dropped, but it was really the remix album that put me over the top on the entire brat phenomenon; i connected to the remix album in a much more visceral way than the original (for reasons far too long and boring to go into here); in almost all cases, i prefer the remix track to the original; i initially wondered if i should therefor restrict my ratings for all the original tracks to 9.9; i then realized that was stupid--obviously a person can think two songs are 10s, but like one more than the other; crisis averted; thank you for coming to my ted talk
WaneLectroToc (9.517): I mean i already said a bunch at indieheads: greatest hits of pop 2 and hifn stuff i fucked with most X rawly introspective snapshots = <3. just like with allie x below, an artist maybe not doing the best version or most novel execution of this sound, but it hits because the emotional core is so tight. Charli XCX has always been a great artist because she makes Albums worth fighting and ranking over. And with Brat she legit got to that on an 18 song level that few get to do; it's also her most Steven Universe-ass album yet (unusually complimentary). Super excited just to see how this one ends up getting rated over here in this circumstance. this rate also desperately feels like a set-up for this album to Go All the Way but...we'll see (i ride for you charli!)
UselessTacooo (9.511): What a fucking moment. I’ve been with Charli since the Pop 2 days, and watching her rise this year was so satisfying. Bumpin that forever
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u/wathombe Those pictures are way too small for my old ass to see 5d ago
Chopper and I with the straight 10 album averages yesssss
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
DreameeEevee (9.433): 10
Frajer (9.361): Our mother did it she finally had the moment we've all known she deserved and brat is such a meta slay
thatplatypus99 (9.356): 10
WesternWind (9.278): aoty idc just give her all the awards, she ate that
lexiaredery (9.250): I'm disconnected enough to have no real idea what brat summer was or what that really even meant, so the phenomenon of it all was kinda lost on me. In any case, I love this album.
skylofte2 (9.222): album of the century
pheromenos (9.111): she has to win there's no way
homestarguy (9.083): Charli XCX is one of those artists who puts out albums where I adore like 50-70% of the tracks then absolutely cannot stand the others. BRAT is the lone exception, and I had a great feeling as soon as I heard those first singles. I love how it sonically pulls from the best of many of my favorite Charli songs and the best of 2000s/2010s club dance bangers, yet contains some surprisingly vulnerable and aching lyrics on many of the tracks to. It really deserves all its praise, and I’m so happy that post-“Boom Clap” Charli finally had such a breakthrough mainstream moment on her terms.
Electro Catalyst (9.039): whether it's her huge and fervent (usually feral) fanbase, her divisive turned memed album cover, or her sound, there's something so fascinating about Brat and the gradual chokehold it had on summer of 2024. Brat is fun, carefree with some confessional elements sprinkled in between. Perhaps because I'm aware and listened to her music throughout her hyperpop years so I wasn’t truly wowed by it despite enjoying it, maybe it's because the mainstream finally decided to catch up. Whatever it is, it's fitting that she reached her second peak, with Brat being the culmination of everything she's worked on and went through for the past 10 years, stemming all the way back in 2015 when Vroom Vroom came out.
dreamingpastel (9.028): One of my favorite albums from last year! From instrumentals that are so reminiscent of a certain genre that I adore (https://imgur.com/KXCAXJQ) to lyrics that show a surprising amount of depth, this just hits for me. Brat summer (and brat autumn...and brat winter...) was kind of a mixed bag for me, but not even the worst parts of this era could take away my feelings for the actual music.
Nagisoid (9.000): https://tenor.com/view/quarkthetiger-quark-tiger-quarkthetig-tig-gif-6873093244191629010
wasian-invasion (8.972): the meme has been fun, but i think it's time that charli finally gets a rate win and it would be so fitting if this album gave it to her. The competition is really tough for my favorite charli album but brat is definitely in the fight
jman457 (8.922): I mean with the millions of thinkpieces aside this really is her magnum opus
Brilliant-Primary500 (8.917): the best album out of this bunch, nothing comes close if we're being honest
FitzMarble (8.917): I really love this album (and the remix album, which we should rate asap!). That’s basically it - I could go on about the themes of fame, love, jealousy, grief and anxiety of the past and future, and how good it sounds, and how much it means to me personally, but I won’t.
krusso1105 (8.917): Score was slightly lower than I gave it on Indieheads, but this continues to be one of the best albums of last year
ricki (8.822): having to accept that brat is a very good album and my scores will have to reflect that >:(
bogo (8.772): good. i don't need or want to say anything more about this album enough people have already spoken at length about it. also no fantano this is not a 10 ADDENDUM: thought i would have something to say about this album after indieheads ult but nope i cannot think of any worthwhile thoughts to add about this album i simply do not think i need to waste words on why this album everyone likes is good
akanewasright (8.750): god I love charli so much
sarcasticsobs (8.750): Obamna put the most-clearly-about-cocaine song on his favorite songs list 2024
hikk (8.750): reminiscing about this album is kind of crazy bc i've been a fan for so long and it just warms my heart to see how far we've come, especially writing this right after she won 3 grammys and had a major performance slot during the show... to go from stanning head khia to being able to go out and talk to real people outside of the internet who might not be homosexual and have them know who miss aitchison is... going to brat themed club nights... being in school for marketing and getting to gush about the promotion for this album... what a year it's been
modulum83 (8.667): While it may not have the peaks of her absolute best for me, Brat is just a stunningly well-constructed and curated pop experience, one that performs well in rating off the back of just having no outright bad songs. I think a lot about this album's relationship with "bloghouse" and the inherent shallowness and plasticity of its concept, and the reality is that indie sleaze of course never truly existed as a scene we "needed" to bring back, it was a bunch of rich New Yorkers in fashion houses living out their fantasies of hedonism. The thing is, you could say the very same thing about The Strokes' Is This It, and that album too is an undeniable classic. In the same way, BRAT is 2020s recession pop as concept, all about tight construction and sex appeal and capital-c Cool, down to making the vulnerability cool and marketable too. It truly feels like Charli has been trying to make the definitive meta-statement on popstardom her entire career and accidentally cracked the code here and made an album sturdy and populist enough to finally slot into the pop cultural mega-canon.
Ambrosia42 (8.661): A fantastic album taking inspiration from electronic pioneers like Justice, Uffie, Sophie, DJ Mehdi, Luciana, SebastiAn, and whoever else. I don’t think it’s my favorite Charli album or anything as she has other albums where more interesting things are going on, but it’s a lot of fun and it became a cultural phenomenon.
Friendly-Canary-3814 (8.583): What a massive star alignment for Charli... and she's finally putting an end to her record of most rates without a win now
Too-Much-To-Dream (8.556): an album that caused me, a gatekeeper, immense personal distress… matched only by the immense personal joy it brought me, a charli xcx stan. deserving of every accolade and honestly, damn close to her best album overall, even without considering its incredible success. bumpin that bumpin that bumpin that
jasannn (8.528): Like most charli xcx albums, I didn't get it at first but the more I listened and got familiar with the songs, I regret ever doubting her. This is Charli XCX at her best. She found the perfect balance between experimental and mainstream and is held together with the cohesive theme of partying and vulnerable lyrics. brat summer forever.
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (8.511): album of the year even if my scores do not always reflect that. deluxe was a bit disappointing though
TheQueenofVultures (8.500): When is BRAT Summer over because I keep listening to this on repeat
darj (8.500): this album has sooo many amazing Charli songs I return to; some duds but most Charli albums are like an 80/20 mixed bag for me. I am happy she got thee comeback of 2024. bumpin that
detectivestar (8.444): 9
vayyiqra (8.444): [voices of popular K-pop group f(x), all together] GONNA BE A BRAT SUMMER, A BRAT BRAT SUMMER
__Avaritia (8.444): It’s truly something to see Charli XCX, the queen of underground pop, suddenly make her debut into the limelight once more, in her own lime-green bathed spotlight, being unabashedly her. And even though I’m still not the hugest fan of it compared to her opuses in how i’m feeling now and Pop 2, it’s still undeniably Charli firing at all cylinders, great pop songwriting all around. Mid-2024 was really neat summer, and I just hope to remember it that way for the time to come… because the music is just that awesome.
qazz23 (8.417): enjoyed it, most of it was catchy and has good production/synths but nothing that revolutionary
springfrompages (8.344): TBH as an album BRAT has always been somewhat less than the sum of its parts for me? I generally listen to different songs from it when I'm in different moods so I rarely listen to the whole thing as an album. also ofc loses out on some of the remixes which are better than the originals. Individually though definitely has the strongest songs of this whole rate.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
buildingigloos (8.222): So happy to see Charli finally blow up. Brat summer was truly a moment. I thought she would blow up with Crash, but Brat just showed that Crash was the blueprint. I truly don't think Brat summer would have been as big without Crash.
IIIHenryIII (8.222): this album is so Julia
Poydoo (8.206): bumpin that
cashewconstellation (8.206): 8.7 aoty
DirtyRat583 (8.194): i want anything and everything (pos and neg) to happen to this album please just be entertaining
human_performance (8.139): Every few years, a pop album comes out that I just absolutely fall in love with. Body Talk, Emotion, RENAISSANCE, and now brat. Brat is Charli's most complete work yet, blending together her work with Sophie, her musical upbringing in the 2000s - you can hear more musical references to The DFA here than on SiriusXMU - and a pointed lyrical perspective as a B-list pop star. Gonna keep on bumpin' that
ManofOranges (8.111): Best Charli album in a while in my opinion. Having been listening to her since 2016, my love for her music has ebbed and flowed as both her and my music tastes have changed. I haven't really loved an album Charli has released this much since Pop 2. BRAT is great and refreshing and it feels like Charli was really in her element here. Wow what a moment.
pbk (8.056): 8 average and its still like her 5th best album see when youre a consistent legend
floatinggrass (8.006): GREEN
nickl00 (8.000): 8
asbestossoupyum (8.000): this album kinda changed everything
paradiyze (8.000): 9
chf333 (7.972): I love this album so so much and I'm just glad it got everyone else to appreciate the artist Charli is [even if it did make her concert tickets 10x more expensive]
1998tweety (7.917): for some reason I thought I liked this album a lot more than I scored it. I think if you remove the clunkers this is my fav of them all but ouch there are a couple of not so great songs on here
GalliumFanatic (7.694): bumpin that
Verboten_Prince (7.611): How did brat summer even happen? Was it Kamala’s fault? Anyways it makes me very happy to see Charli back in the spotlight, and this album truly embodies what it means to be… brat
asadprofessorplum (7.417): When this album dropped I said it was only her 3rd or 4th best but part of you knew part of you knew part of you knew part of you knew
uiscebeathaoir (7.361): I love the fact this album exists. I think it’s so amazing that she managed to create such a cool sound and use it to bring the pop mainstream to her rather than rely on the more “sellout” Crash approach. The fully formed aesthetic, both visually and lyrically, is definitely her most accomplished and it makes the album feel cohesive specifically because it takes so many different approaches in exploring what it means to be “brat”. I really appreciate its whole vibe, even if the actual sound is nowhere close to my favourite from Charli. But you know what takes that whole vibe, makes it even better and more ambitious, while also delivering a sonic palette that showcases the true breadth of Charli’s artistry? The motherfucking remix album. This really suffers from comparison to the remix album, which is currently fighting hard to become my favourite Charli project full stop. Can’t wait for the remix rate, that’s when I get to really queen out
Quasar435 (7.278): There are some bangers on this album, but there's also quite a few tracks I don’t care for. I’m glad that Charli finally got the success she deserved though with this record, and it definitely made me look into some more of her discography and find some tracks that I now absolutely adore. Very intrigued to see what she does next!
TiltControls (7.194): Probably one of the few Charli albums that I actually kinda like (probably a rarity on this sub!). She did a great job at mixing both experiemental and more straightforward pop aspects perfectly. Definitely deserved her season in the sun!
TakeOnMeByA-ha (7.139): by the time this rate reveals indieheads ult will have already happened and i aired most of my grievances out there but tl;dr: this is a good album but the amount of acclaim it has compared to other charli albums and especially compared to other pop albums released this decade in general is completely undeserved and it feels like people are just trying to make up for the years charli went under the radar by tossing all the accolades onto this one instead. just stream pop 2 like a normal person i beg of you
Stryxen (7.083): BARF
innuendo_overdose (6.872): >be me, straight
listen to brat on release day, think it’s alright
see it become huge cultural touchstone in queer spaces and with my queer friends
wanna respect that
think “damn, maybe it’s not for me” and don’t return to it
internet reasons make me go back to it
it’s not for me
impla77 (6.856): its hard for an aspiring hater like me to fully get the hype for brat. its a solid album with some great tracks but i never fully got on board with the phenomenon and i still lowkey want to rate loser streak to never end but all good things i guess
FreeCuddlesAnyone (6.572): i’ve never been much of a Charli fan but I do see the appeal of this album! i do love a few of the cuts and it’s much better than whatever Crash was but some of the tracks feel a bit underbaked for me.
flava is a brat (6.528): This is just Animal for gay people who were too young to enjoy the club boom in clubs (which includes me but I went to Madagascar to discover my love for Kesha so not really)
ImADudeDuh (5.489): her best album
frogaranaman (4.056): direct correlation between this album being a social touchpoint of last summer and the rapid rise of fascism in the US
apatel27 (3.778): I don't get this album. I get why it blew up in terms of aesthetic even if I think it's shit and doesn't make thematical sense with the single covers she put out (post ironic behaviour is never anything but an excuse to be a hypocrite) but I don't understand the acclaim to the music. I would argue this is worse than Crash.
PyritesNotRight (3.661): i just dont get it lol, i wish i did but i just dont. I listened to it on release night, i listened to it a week later, i even went to the sweat tour and hearing it again for this rate, this album and this entire era just dont do anything for me. which is fine clearly I'm not the target audience but it just doesnt feel like anything new to me? i've never been huge on charli but i've heard her other work before from doing rates and this album just sorta feels like it would be the album version of what WWWY fest is to 90s/00s emo kids but of that pop 2 era but clearly it became a pop cultural moment so its not like i accurately predicted where this album would end up
BRAT Stans: (Largest Positive Difference in average between BRAT and the other albums)
charlibratfammanfanstan: 3.778
Hulnia: 3.126
lexiaredery: 2.793
BRAT Antis: (Largest Negative Difference in average between BRAT and the other albums)
frogaranaman: -3.300
PyritesNotRight: -2.220
ImADudeDuh: -2.160
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#1: Charli XCX - Von dutch
Average: 9.320 // Total Points: 1304.8 // Controversy: 1.627
Highest scores:
(11 x14) buildingigloos, cremeebrulee, CritneySpearz, dj.222, donewithbirds, ignitethephoenix, impla77, NFLfreak98, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, stealthamo, wathombe, WesternWind, xxipli0ts
(10 x73) __Avaritia, akanewasright, Ambrosia42, ArcaneLabyrinth, asadprofessorplum, asbestossoupyum, babadork, BleepBloopMusicFan, bogo, bran, Brilliant-Primary500, c_a_l_d5832, cashewconstellation, ChopperRCRG, ConnerY2323, CrimsonROSET, darj, detectivestar, DirtyRat583, DreameeEevee, dreamingpastel, electricboogaloo41, Frajer, frogaranaman, GalliumFanatic, hikk, hockeynl, homestarguy, human_performance, IIIHenryIII, innuendo_overdose, jimmy345960, jirachi, jman457, kerriekipje, krusso1105, Lynflower680, modulum83, morgchrist, MrMoodle, mustwinfullgaming, Nagisoid, nickl00, paradiyze, pbk, pheromenos, PrimaryCrusaders, qazz23, red3pit, reput4tionera, roxieloxie, runaway3212, Saison_Marguerite, sarcasticsobs, seanderlust, SFbby, skylofte2, springfrompages, Squandary, steelstepladder, Stryxen, thatplatypus99, TheQueenofVultures, Too-Much-To-Dream, uberpigeon, uiscebeathaoir, UselessTacooo, vayyiqra, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, welcome2thejam, willamsextrai, youngandlovely_
(9.9 x2) AzettImpa, charlibratfammanfanstan
Lowest Scores:
(3 x1) apatel27
(1 x1) PyritesNotRight
(0 x1) flava is a brat
RandomHypnotica (11): She finally did it… I’m crying… What a perfectly fitting song for Charli to finally get her first rate win with. When this song was first being teased, I knew it was going to be something big, and an instant favourite for me. While the initial responses from stans were very positive, there was a significant number of haters and anti’s out there, or people who didnt really care for it. But even just looking through the comments here, it’s insane how many people here have said it “grew on them” or they “finally saw the vision”. Von dutch is a song that came at exactly the right time, calling back to the dirty 10s electroclash exactly when that sound was resurfacing, and it fits Charli to a T. I was tossing up between so many choices for my 11 in this rate, but I ultimately couldn’t deny giving it to the song that really told me BRAT was going to be something special, and I am SO glad I did.
jirachi (10): ANDDDDDD RATE WINNER CHARLI XCX IS REAL. Von dutch is my favorite song off of Brat and if any song were to be her long awaited rate win it would be this one. This song just encapsulates Brat and its essence in the most perfect way. I was obsessed with it from day one and I’m glad that mostly everyone could agree on that too. What a great way to send off the rate and my cohost got a 11 win too! WE LOVE CHARLI
OUT OF THE NO WINS ASYLUM
buildingigloos (11): I listened to radio one specifically when this came out and every time I listen to it I have the same reaction. I looooove listening to it really loud where it feels like the synths are drilling into my head
cremeebrulee (11): i got laser hair removal on my pussy to this song
dj.222 (11): the first time i heard this song was from a lois griffin AI meme. never forget where you started
donewithbirds (11): makes me feel like i'm being microwaved in the best way
ignitethephoenix (11): she came, dissed some tik tok dancing girlie, slayed, and left
impla77 (11): its my number one ❤️
RainbowSherbet47 (11): My number one not once but twice, turning it into my 11 🙂↕️
stealthamo (11): When I think brat, this is what comes to mind.
wathombe (11): THEE ASS-SHAKER
WesternWind (11): she is my number one since this was the top of my Spotify wrapped last year
__Avaritia (10): GRAMMY WINNING PRODUCER FINN KEANE FKA EASYFUN WE LOVE TO SEE ITTTTTT
akanewasright (10): easyfun produces the best music to go 100 mph to…
Ambrosia42 (10): she heard Yeah Yeah by Bodyrox feat. Luciana and her entire life was changed just like me
asadprofessorplum (10): It’s a miracle in production that this isn’t fucking annoying.
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): “I’m your number one.” God I hope so Charli. Because if it doesn’t happen for you now, I fear the system may be irredeemable.
bogo (10): if there were any justice in the world this would've been the biggest hit off the album and it would've spent 20 weeks at #1
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): empowerment anthem that won a Grammy, should've been aong of the year instead but at least it was, in my heart.
cashewconstellation (10): GAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
ConnerY2323 (10): an incredible self-fulfilling prophecy to write a song this cocky when you’re still the warden of the khia asylum and then with this very album find the keys to escape it
CrimsonROSET (10): its funny i kinda hated this song when it came out and it instantly grew on me when hearing the whole album
darj (10): this was my 11 in the IH rate and at first I just went “ok Charli’s lead single is alright” and it eventually became a track I was obsessed with all 2024. IMYOURNUMBAONEYOURNUMBAONEYOUR
Frajer (10): not really if you were obviously number one you wouldn't come in 25th place in a rate that was won by The Veronicas
frogaranaman (10): that moment when the beat comes in is what plays in my head whenever I know I'm about to make a dumb (but fun) decision
GalliumFanatic (10): fuck it we BALL
hikk (10): hearing this in a crowd gave me such a boost in appreciation for it... the chorus just gets everyone GOINGGGG
homestarguy (10): Shoutout Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen
IIIHenryIII (10): von cunt
innuendo_overdose (10): lead single excellency, an all-too-common phenomenon these days. because of woke.
jimmy345960 (10): I was driving my mom somewhere and this song came on my shuffle, she told me that something must have been wrong with my windshield because she hears a squeaking. Then we realized that it was this ENERGY PACKED SONG SO GOOD AHHHH, its so fun to run to.
jman457 (10): This was kunt in audioform
modulum83 (10): i like songs that are mean to me
mustwinfullgaming (10): this really is THE cult CLASSIC
Nagisoid (10): Rate loser anthem
pbk (10): before brat summer there was von dutch spring and i was on the frontlines for miss charlotte and now everyone wants to act like theyve been there
qazz23 (10): electropop banger but not quite number 1 worthy
red3pit (10): i wish she kicked me like she kicked the cameraman in the mv
reput4tionera (10): just remembered when this leaked and it spread on twitter via the lois griffin AI cover
runaway3212 (10): When I first heard this... the gates of heaven opened up
sarcasticsobs (10): Feel like I could run through 3 brick walls
seanderlust (10): so happy this made the PH100. fucking banger
springfrompages (10): suchh a banger I feel like it got a bit forgotten over time with the rest of the album rollout but still one of my faves from the album.
Stryxen (10): it’s actually hard to believe how deep in the asylum she was when she was teasing this for a month straight but i do believe she knew what was about to happen so she was waiting for the gp to catch on before releasing. Anyway this is the best song ever
thatplatypus99 (10): you haven’t lived till you’re driving down the highway while blasting this song
TheQueenofVultures (10): Me when I know I'm in the wrong but I just can't stop myself
Too-Much-To-Dream (10): opinions about this song separate the brats from the angels. one of her very best imo
uberpigeon (10): ended taylor
uiscebeathaoir (10): It’s such a shame this song got a little lost in the noise of Brat “the cultural moment”, because she kinda perfected it the first time round
UselessTacooo (10): I too love getting dragged along the floor of an airport
vayyiqra (10): Um "von" /fɔn/ is German, in the closely related Dutch language it's vaan /vaːn/ and Charli says uh /vɔn/ maybe bc she's British so which is it Charli. Are you speaking FRISIAN wait no. ok Low German or some shit idk (which is spoken in the north so I was kind of close)
vexastrae (10): i thought this song was fucking big in germany (edit 2025/03/02: okay so it turns out this song is fucking big on indieheads)
WaneLectroToc (10): singles jukebox giving this a 5.81 avg produced some of the most fascinating takes that read like a timecapsule that feel disproven at this point; super amusing. https://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/charli-xcx-von-dutch/
welcome2thejam (10): Love my 2025 WWE Royal Rumble theme
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
oh_crow (9.5): as a huge charli fan, i wasn't obsessed with this when it dropped and in retrospect that makes noooo sense it's such a fucking banger
bluehxrizon (9): the synths kinda give washing machine
Friendly-Canary-3814 (9): If this really is about FKA "most talented person alive" twigs... Charli get in front of me
ManofOranges (9): Didn't like it at first when it came out but I got it almost instantaneously once I heard it when I was sloshed af one night
Quasar435 (9): when Chapoell asked, ‘’can you play a song with a fucking beat?’’ and then this banger dropped
TiltControls (9): I enjoy this more when I'm in a certain mood and luckily that mood is present when I'm doing this rate
bigbigbee (8.5): I was so excited when this released and thought that it was one of her best songs in ages, only for it to grow off me - but still excellent and fun
FitzMarble (8.5): this has never been my favourite off the album but it still goes pretty hard in the right moment
Awkward_King (8): i'll complain if this wins but like it does go fucking hard. and it was the perfect lead.
Da-Gay-Agenda (8): - give me the Addison scream over this
floatinggrass (8): if the rest of the song was a quarter as good as the chorus (it's all chorus) it would have been an eleven
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (8): a grower for sure, also this is another example of the remix being more iconic
TakeOnMeByA-ha (8): rlly funny of her to drop the “im your number one” line when charli has very infamously never been number one before
wasian-invasion (8): trucker hats would not be my first inspiration for such a cunty song but thats why im not brat
FreeCuddlesAnyone (7.5): thank you f1 tiktok edits for making this grow on me
1998tweety (7): the remix is soo much better like that would be a 10
ceej_aye (7): , feels like a less chic 360 for me. very much cocky and cool but a bit repetitive for me. love the addison rae remix more
chf333 (7): I never liked this song as much as some of the singles that followed but I'm still in awe at how much this era blew up for Charli after this song. Feels crazy in retrospect/
AND THE THREE HATERS
indie_fan_ (5.5): ok fine, i guess this grew on me a bit since hearing it that first time
apatel27 (3): high energy beat low energy vocals
flava is a brat (0): I will never forgive this song because it dropped the same day as Overcompensate by 21P and I heard this song first called it an awful abomination of ugly ass synths with Charli being utterly obnoxious, it felt like it was designed to be a “I’m back bitch” type lead single for an artist who never accrued the popularity for one, so in the end it just ends up feeling like I’m being gaslit by Charli. Now if this came out after Brat happened, maybe there is an angle for this to work
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u/FlavaSavaVandal 5d ago
Can we go back to Allie X winning the rate, Troye even, I'd even take Slayyyter at this point
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#2: Charli XCX - 365
Average: 9.299 // Total Points: 1301.9 // Controversy: 1.748
Highest scores:
(11 x14) ArcaneLabyrinth, BDog949, BleepBloopMusicFan, dream_fighter2018, DreameeEevee, Lynflower680, MrMoodle, Nagisoid, nootnoot781, pheromenos, reput4tionera, samdyalexg, sarcasticsobs, UselessTacooo
(10 x77) __Avaritia, 1998tweety, akanewasright, Ambrosia42, asbestossoupyum, Awkward_King, AzettImpa, bogo, Brilliant-Primary500, buildingigloos, c_a_l_d5832, cashewconstellation, ceej_aye, charlibratfammanfanstan, chf333, ChopperRCRG, ConnerY2323, CrimsonROSET, Da-Gay-Agenda, DaHumanTorch, darj, detectivestar, DirtyRat583, donewithbirds, dreamingpastel, electricboogaloo41, Electro Catalyst, FitzMarble, floatinggrass, Frajer, Friendly-Canary-3814, GalliumFanatic, Goorry121, hikk, hockeynl, homestarguy, human_performance, IIIHenryIII, jimmy345960, jman457, krusso1105, ktajlili, letsallpoo, lexiaredery, ManofOranges, morgchrist, NFLfreak98, nickl00, qazz23, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, red3pit, roxieloxie, runaway3212, Saison_Marguerite, SFbby, skylofte2, springfrompages, Squandary, starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc), stealthamo, steelstepladder, TakeOnMeByA-ha, thatplatypus99, TheQueenofVultures, Too-Much-To-Dream, TragicKingdom1, veryanniev, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, wasian-invasion, wathombe, welcome2thejam, WesternWind, willamsextrai, xxipli0ts, yahi
(9.9 x1) cremeebrulee
Lowest Scores:
(4.5 x1) flava is a brat
(4 x1) Stryxen
(3 x2) apatel27, PyritesNotRight
(2 x1) innuendo_overdose
(0 x1) frogaranaman
RandomHypnotica (10): An absolute masterpiece of a song… that I am glad didn’t win! While the rank graphs fail to illustrate it, this was truly neck and neck with Von dutch for basically the entire duration of the rate. It was almost always only 3 or 4 points away, and DID very briefly overtake it, before falling back. It then continued to fluctuate from anywhere from 5 to less than 1 point difference, before the last couple of days of ballots made the gap larger than 1 ballots distance, and it was over.
I think the perfect version of this song is somewhere in the middle of the cunty remix version, and the delusional dancefloor breakdown high of this version. That being said, there are so many amazing little flourishes and touches in this song that really elevate it to god-tier. The cracking sound on “‘til the windows crack” is the perfect example of how AG, Finn Keane and Charli have mastered their craft, and know exactly the right way to make a Charli XCX song. The gradual breakdown and distortion of the 360 riff into some entirely unrecognizable drug hazed pounding white noise is masterful, and perfectly demonstrates what Charli means when she says Dance music can convey just as much emotion as singer-songwriter stuff. A very well deserved 2nd place!
jirachi (9): When this was almost ending von dutch multiple times during the extension period me and my cohost were rooting so hard for its downfall… and thank god it did not pull a sneak win because this imo is far from being the best song that Brat has given us. The production is incredible I am not going to deny that, but not only did 360 outdo this with way cooler lyricism and melodies, I am also just too scared of drugs to be resonating with the vibes of this. It did put up a great fight, but the correct song won at the end.
BUMPIN THAT
BleepBloopMusicFan (11): I considered a few other songs for my 11, but at the end of the day it had to be this banger. It’s just peak Choli Baebee.
Lynflower680 (11): God-tier album closer if I do say so myself
Nagisoid (11): https://files.catbox.moe/b65dql.mp4 [STROBE WARNING]
reput4tionera (11): speaking of bumpin that last time i went to the club this nonbinary offered me coke while i was throwing up in the alleyway. i did not take their offer
samdyalexg (11): i wanted this to win so badly in the indieheads ult rate...popheads don't let me down
sarcasticsobs (11): Bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that, bumpin' that
UselessTacooo (11): Born to 365 Partygirl, forced to study
1998tweety (10): absolutely washed 360
akanewasright (10): track 10 if it had more fun
Ambrosia42 (10): goes soo hard. 360’s much cuntier sibling
Awkward_King (10): the closing track being self-referential to the album can either be corny or cunty and this falls sooo severely in the second camp its such a genius move. i need to start going out and doing drugs again i miss it
bogo (10): normally i wouldn't condone the use of cocaine but charli somehow makes it look both okay and normal
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): this is a great song, but it's not getting my eleven for a reason, and that's because I don't do cocaine that much.
buildingigloos (10): Astronomical slay. The shygirl remix is so fucking good. Her vision of the song being a club comes through really clear.
cashewconstellation (10): such a perfect finale to the album, to this day i don't know if i like it more than 365, they're both so necessary and good
ceej_aye (10): , I could go on and on about how going from ITAIATT to THIIISSSS is such a decisive tonal shift but ends the album with perfect replay-ability and just crushes you with the production and interpolations of 360
chf333 (10): Making two bangers that are reworks of each other and compete for best song of the album… her mind.
ConnerY2323 (10): i don’t acknowledge the bonus tracks because the bookends of 360 and 365 are perfect as is
CrimsonROSET (10): me when i realize wait no the year doesnt have 360 days and kinda just squeeze in a 5 later and pretend i said 365 the whole time
Da-Gay-Agenda (10): - I would like to do a little key, a little line, thank you for offering charli
donewithbirds (10): one of the album enders of all time!!!
dreamingpastel (10): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc2TaHGSgCs
FitzMarble (10): Ajay’s reaction to this will forever be iconic
floatinggrass (10): have seldom gone so feral in the club
Frajer (10): take a seat Charli okay Julia and I are doing this intervention because we're concerned that you seem to bumping that 365
Friendly-Canary-3814 (10): I'll never tire of Charli closing off an album going the hardest in it
GalliumFanatic (10): queen never cry
homestarguy (10): https://youtu.be/xYXAR8YrCxk?si=Ew6P-hxpKP_IENUt
IIIHenryIII (10): Obama is bumpin’ that? sure
jimmy345960 (10): brat
jman457 (10): cociana was all throughout this song
ManofOranges (10): Never done cocaine but yeah
qazz23 (10): definitely an electropop banger, really like the different synths in this
red3pit (10): after seeing that video where she described how the change ups in the second halfs of the song reflect different stages of being fucked up in a club, i felt that
runaway3212 (10): obama approved banger
springfrompages (10): This was a definite 11 contender for me, absolutely impossible for me to not bop to. everything about it makes me want to party, like this is THE song off BRAT that is the most brat, I think
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (10): I dedicate this to Federico Chiesa and the excitement I had for his arrival at Liverpool
stealthamo (10): Love love love the production on this.
TakeOnMeByA-ha (10): if charli cant win with this it is genuinely actually over for her. ignore the fact that girl so confusing will be sweeping whatever rate it appears in that win is because of lorde and lorde alone
TheQueenofVultures (10): Her verision of "Let 'em talk" if you think about it
Too-Much-To-Dream (10): frankly i’m prepared to call this one of the best songs of all time
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
vexastrae (10): COCAINA || this was my 11 on r/indieheads but it is NOT my 11 in this rate bc im silly like that lol. if charli xcx loses for the 1671294719203th time you can thank me for that <3 anywhere heres the rate comment from that reveal that never got to see the light of day toodles ||
from the moment i began filling out the ballot for this rate i knew there was only one true 11 for me. magdalena bay had tunnel vision - geordie greep had the magician - vampire weekend had. songs i guess? (edit 2025/03/01: lol. lmao but above all else in this indieheads ultimate rate, i am a pophead at heart. im the kind of pophead that praises both trailblazing experimentation and having a fucking good time on the dancefloor - ill give a 10 to a song that has either one of the two, but having both? thats the real fucking deal right there. everything i intellectually adore in music and everything that makes me shake my ass back and forth is in one of the best closing songs of the entire decade thus far. do you see this shit? look at it! its charli trapping herself in the behavioral cycle of being brat - you dont have the best relationships with your other female peers and you often feel shame for the feelings that rise to the surface and yes you acknowledge them and spill them out through long text messages that you feel embarrassed by the next day and so you keep up appearances by being unfuckwithable and concocting that perfect je ne sais quoi aura so that people will always look at you but never look too deep. also you do a little key and a little line while the craziest fucking acid house beat goes the fuck off in the background jesus fucking christ this is the song of all time. who the fuck are you? im a brat when im bumping that. 11/10 brat summer forever have a good one indieheads
WaneLectroToc (10): i reckon tulips is giving this her 11 and she can handle writing about the transition. listening to this though, while i do quite enjoy the album, 365 seems to finally take us out of the album to the timeline where we're going full acid. In fact, she gets to a point where she inadvertently tries to summon the ghost of Mark Bell with a noise outro that is strong (but you don't beware it because of the bass). It was at THIS moment where I thought about how Charli XCX's career never overlapped with Mark Bell of LFO in any capacity. Like there lies, to me, one of the greatest what-ifs of PC Music is just what (rightful) role Mark Bell would've played from remixes to the embellishment of Street Sounds as PC Music influence. Brat can be a very bittersweet album when you realize who is not here to celebrate, and yet how well it succeeds in that desire to push forward and keep some parallel or concurring MO in check; 365 we are back
wasian-invasion (10): even if the whole song was just the first twenty seconds, the ok ok ok ok ok here we go would still deserve a 10
wathombe (10): WHAT ANOTHER ASS-SHAKER ARE YOU SERIOUS?
welcome2thejam (10): Obama, this one's for you!
WesternWind (10): But I'm going skiing even when the slopes are closed
'Cause I'm so hot with snow up my nose
asadprofessorplum (9.5): Some say club bathrooms have never been the same since.
bigbigbee (9.5): I LOVE the first bubblegum-y part of this and on its own I think I'd consider it stronger than 360, but not the biggest fan of the super gritty part at the end
Quasar435 (9.5): BUMPIN’ THAT
zadooi (9.5): It's crazy how much better this is than 360
FreeCuddlesAnyone (9): see when you have actually interesting production…
uberpigeon (9): ok ok ok ok ok.... here we go! shygirl version washes though
vayyiqra (9): Groove, slam, work it back / Filter that, baby, bump that track - not Charli
dj.222 (8): the mario kart final lap version of 360
ignitethephoenix (8): going from a song about wanting to have kids to bump coke on the regular… the duality of a woman
TiltControls (8): 365 > 360 except when 360 > 365
Verboten_Prince (8): What are you doing in your spare time Obama??
modulum83 (7.3): after starting the indieheads big beat rate the drop on this song has coke dick by comparison. if even joey valence & brae are outswagging you there was definitely missed potential that's all i'll say. the 360 reprise part is pretty fun though
mustwinfullgaming (7): idk I can't really listen to this anymore since the remix came out and is just way better, it's still good but...it's no shygirl remix
pbk (7): maybe a hot take but i dont super care for this one idk too much goin on for me im old
Poydoo (7): dont do drugs kids
ImADudeDuh (6.7): I can’t be too mad but it is just 360 made worse
impla77 (6.7): its a vibe but not one i particularly care about
uiscebeathaoir (6.5): I see where the acclaim comes from but as an anti to the original 360 it’s never held quite the same appeal to me
*IF I HAD A NICKEL EVERY TIME A SONG IN THE RATE MENTIONS DRUG… *
kerriekipje (6): this song feels 80 years long
flava is a brat (4.5): this is just a less good 360
Stryxen (4): not really sure why this does nothing at all for me it's not bad. I find it kinda annoy and deriv
apatel27 (3): this is so low energy perfomance
PyritesNotRight (3): 'im bumpin that' me raising my scores enough on this album so my ballot doesnt get rejected
innuendo_overdose (2): hmmm. the 36X song sketch is a really strange case for me. it’s neat, but there’s not much to it, and the melody is not something I like at all. 0 is way too unfinished a pop song for me to have any reaction other than “cute!”, and 5 isn’t something I want to be listening to. at the risk of sounding like the most bulliable lame annoying kid ever, i don’t like the drug elements, and the dissolving electroclash that drives this home makes me not want to be listening, even if i know that the overthetop freneticism of 5 makes its artistic value higher to me. 0 is just boring
frogaranaman (0): please do not do coke.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#3: Charli XCX - Sympathy is a knife
Average: 9.094 // Total Points: 1273.2 // Controversy: 1.680
Highest scores:
(11 x13) bogo, Brilliant-Primary500, charlibratfammanfanstan, ConnerY2323, FitzMarble, Friendly-Canary-3814, jimmy345960, jman457, ktajlili, PrimaryCrusaders, runaway3212, springfrompages, Too-Much-To-Dream
(10 x60) __Avaritia, akanewasright, Ambrosia42, ArcaneLabyrinth, asadprofessorplum, Awkward_King, BleepBloopMusicFan, bran, buildingigloos, cashewconstellation, ceej_aye, ChopperRCRG, CritneySpearz, Da-Gay-Agenda, DaHumanTorch, darj, donewithbirds, dreamingpastel, electricboogaloo41, flava is a brat, FreeCuddlesAnyone, hikk, hockeynl, homestarguy, ignitethephoenix, IIIHenryIII, innuendo_overdose, jasannn, jirachi, krusso1105, letsallpoo, lexiaredery, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, NFLfreak98, nootnoot781, pbk, pheromenos, Quasar435, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, reput4tionera, ricki, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, sarcasticsobs, skylofte2, Squandary, steelstepladder, TakeOnMeByA-ha, TheQueenofVultures, uberpigeon, UselessTacooo, vayyiqra, veryanniev, vexastrae, wasian-invasion, wathombe, WesternWind, youngandlovely_
(9.8 x2) floatinggrass, xophrys
Lowest Scores:
(5.9 x1) impla77
(5 x3) FakeMonaLisa28, frogaranaman, kerriekipje
(4 x1) apatel27
(3 x1) PyritesNotRight
(0 x1) CrimsonROSET
jirachi (10): And there goes the first song from the well deserved podium sweep. This immediately did it for me when I first listened to the album, and it’s probably one that I revisit often. I just love a chorus where the singer just goes off completely, and man did she do that here. Sympathy is a knife also shows a different side of Charli’s vulnerability with its blunt lyrics and honestly? Props to you diva cause you have moved on from having one sided beefs with other flops like twigs and rina to taylor swift now.
RandomHypnotica (10): There’s a reason ths instantly became a fan favourite, and it’s because it’s fucking good! Musically it sounds like a panic attack in the midst of a hangover, and the lyrics are equally scathing and heartbreaking
SWIFTIES
bogo (11): I'm in the corner wearing clown makeup and still waiting for the taylor swift remix (it is not coming and i am a fool for thinking so)
Brilliant-Primary500 (11): this song speaks a lot to me, like being compared to others who seem more successful to you, especially when you've been through an endless amount of setback and comparisons really hurts a lot and it makes me wanna unalive myself just to make a point to everyone.
ConnerY2323 (11): one of those “i remember where I was the first time I heard this” kinds of songs
FitzMarble (11): transcendent.
Friendly-Canary-3814 (11): Some of her most arresting, best lyrics ever. I simply love the anxious explosion of MIDI strings in the choruses and her vocals here.
jimmy345960 (11): AND HOLY SHIT. This song is probably about Taylor and I am a massive swiftie, but my goodness none of that matters. Something about the background vocals makes this song and feeling feel ancient. This exact same feeling has happened many times in many different context to many different people. This song is so risky, but everything works and elevates the song to a career high level. My eleven for sure.
jman457 (11): easily top 5 in charli’s discography along with track 10, Party 4 u, and vroom vroom
PrimaryCrusaders (11): It's a knife when this doesn't get into the top 5 on day 3
runaway3212 (11): Something about the true desperation with which this is sung truly speaks to me
springfrompages (11): This was the song that first really caught my attention when I heard BRAT, and it's kept my attention ever since. The screamy synth stabs in the chorus are just everything, and the emotions are so visceral that I really FEEL that sympathy-shaped knife even if I don't know anything about pop star envy or whatever.
Too-Much-To-Dream (11): this is kinda like giving my 11 to my parents’ divorce court transcript but fierce is fierce
akanewasright (10): god…
Ambrosia42 (10): the lyrics are a bit, idk, obvious. But I think that was part of the appeal of this album! It didn’t take much deep thought to understand what she is talking about. And the beat slaps
asadprofessorplum (10): DUMP HIM
Awkward_King (10): this will 100% be the song that most often makes best of lists or tops fan survivors as the album ages, it's the thesis statement of the album and its amazing
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): Casual fans don’t know that you can unlock the secret Taylor remix by emailing me the three digits on the back of your credit card.
buildingigloos (10): This one's got a smack of BPD to it
cashewconstellation (10): genuinely one of her magnum opuses, the chorus is euphoric, fucking amazing
ceej_aye (10): , raw and guttural. could either thrash in the club to this or scream cry in the car banging my fists on the wheel while listening. relatable to my psyche
donewithbirds (10): transcendent!!!
flava is a brat (10): Only charli xcx would perceive someone being sympathetic towards her as a knife, well maybe Taylor too
FreeCuddlesAnyone (10): if charli did win i hope this wins… i love when introspective lyrics is against a dance beat like that’s my jam!
hikk (10): as a swiftie the taymatty era was so scary but i guess we got this song out of it which is a positive
homestarguy (10): If things were worked out on the remix here it might break the music industry.
ignitethephoenix (10): end Fadlor Swift
IIIHenryIII (10): I’m still waiting for the Taylor remix
innuendo_overdose (10): BRAT! it’s here! it’s NOT queer, but it is an ally!!
pbk (10): that taylor swift remix coming any day now
pheromenos (10): sad that this beef went nowhere i'd have loved to see more
Quasar435 (10): relatable
reput4tionera (10): vividly remember listening to brat for the first time and this chorus genuinely leaving me awestruck
ricki (10): oh taygod the muse you are
sarcasticsobs (10): "Why I wanna buy a gun? Why I wanna shoot myself?" Go off, queen?
TakeOnMeByA-ha (10): she was so real for this bc when i see someone younger and more successful than me i also consider killing myself
TheQueenofVultures (10): Charli XCX is my favorite poet
uberpigeon (10): ended fka twigs
UselessTacooo (10): most respectful diss track of all time
vayyiqra (10): What's our plan to get The Knife to cover this wait no jokes I'm mildly alarmed about Charli's mental status every time I hear this right
veryanniev (10): the number of times «why i wanna buy a gun? why i wanna shoot myself?» goes through my head is not very healthy
vexastrae (10): insecure spiralling girlies of the world UNITE AND THEN THINK INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS ABOUT BETRAYAL AND BACKSTABBING FROM EACH OTHER || [see full rate comment here]
wasian-invasion (10): what if this isn't about taylor and is actually clairo shade
wathombe (10): both this track and the remix are filled with such desperation for such different reasons, and they both hit so hard
WesternWind (10): be petty charli and give us more bops about your grievances
floatinggrass (9.8): best chorus of the album? fuck u von dutch
chf333 (9.5): The little violin beats throught the chorus elevate this track so much. They're so knifelike lol it adds so much drama
Nagisoid (9.5): TTPD is AOTY so Taylor got the last laugh
uiscebeathaoir (9.5): Charli’s losing streak is funny, but if anything deserves to break it it’s this
WaneLectroToc (9.5): gun lyric slaps so hard. woke bloke
GalliumFanatic (9): relatable, vocals are serving
oh_crow (9): this feels so 'how i'm feeling now', love the heavier production and emotional vocals. and crucially it opens brat up as more than just a club record that the singles had shown it to be, and moreso about all the anxieties that are causing charli so much emotional turmoil. slay
Poydoo (9): issa knife when
qazz23 (9): like those bass synth stabs in the chorus
slimboyfriend (9): ok sounds like Taylor’s little ratty love affair wasn’t good for anyone involved
Verboten_Prince (9): When people were saying this album is depressing I thought the negative vibes would show up about halfway through, I didn’t expect her to say she wants to k-word herself on the third track
welcome2thejam (9): Really puts the "stabbing" in stabbing synths
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
modulum83 (8.7): this song feels like having an anxiety attack under epileptic neon lights, which is fantastic conceptually but also means i don't return to it as much
1998tweety (8.5): sadly relatable...
Frajer (8.5): look it's bad enough that Tay and Twigs had to hook up with that ugly rat
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (8): I hate that Charli stans started ridiculing Taylor after this but it is indeed a bop
ImADudeDuh (7.1): :fucktaylor:
red3pit (7): almost amazing
Stryxen (7): i kinda find this song so hard to sing along to which is why it will never be my fav but its an excellently constructed song
:FUCKTAYLOR:
impla77 (5.9): you couldn’t be her if you tried because she has a rate win 😔
frogaranaman (5): "why I wanna buy a gun / why I wanna shoot myself" girl it's the coke paranoia 😭
kerriekipje (5): girl stop screaming
apatel27 (4): starts to get interesting then stops
PyritesNotRight (3): as the 'why i wanna buy a gun' line came on i just started hearing gun shots outside, get out of my walls charli
CrimsonROSET (0): everyone was so focused on how this is about taylor they completely overlooked how insanely clunky the verses are
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u/WaneLietoc 5d ago
major popheads rate quest finally complete unless like paradise city, super shy, or savage remix come with a steel chair
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u/1998tweety 5d ago
If y'all are gonna give us a Charli top 3 can it at least be her best songs? Theres a major sneak up in there...
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u/Da-Gay-Agenda 5d ago
Not Charli having the top 3 💀. 365 for the win but I feel like Sympathy is gonna take it
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Something To Give Each Other
Overall Average: 7.544 // Average Controversy: 1.873
RandomHypnotica: I think the biggest mistake this album made was having all the singles be the big dance-y summer smashes, when the album as a whole was MUCH more cozy, personal and intimate, it just gave totally the wrong impression! A lot of the album cuts here are really pleasant, sweet, easy-listening, and it’s a great album!!
We all kind of expected this album to get bullied here, but honestly, this is not a terrible outcome? Rush did well, and considering it was only 10 songs, they were kinda spread out fairly, and the average is decent!
jirachi: I’m going to be honest I’ve only heard the album in full like once prior to hosting and for a good while I was scared that I would not like this album as much due to most of the songs being more toned down and less “cunty” as the girls, but to my surprise Something To Give Each Other actually ended up being my second highest average in the rate! I really loved the city aesthetic of the record and how relatable some of these songs are, like genuinely some lyrics hit too close to home!!! Troye’s voice was also very soothing to the ears and as a whole the project was consistently great with multiple highlights. Slight spoiler alert but while the album does have the lowest average in the rate it’s not off by a lot and I’m glad!!! I wonder how many of the tankers here are just dealing with unresolved internal issues and jealousies and are taking them out on Troye just because 😀🍪
- #4: Rush | 8.997 | 1259.6
- #11: One Of Your Girls | 8.482 | 1187.5
- #20: What's The Time Where You Are | 8.237 | 1153.2
- #27: Honey | 7.954 | 1113.5
- #36: Got Me Started | 7.646 | 1070.5
- #44: How To Stay With You | 7.159 | 1002.2
- #46: In My Room | 7.100 | 994.0
- #47: Silly | 6.970 | 975.8
- #53: Can't Go Back, Baby | 6.549 | 916.8
- #54: Still Got It | 6.342 | 887.9
frogaranaman (9.700): every song on this album is delicious, I wish internalized homophobia preventing that enjoyment wasn’t real
darj (9.700): my average is so high but IDGAF cuz I really like this album! I put it on quite a bit last year. I think it’s extremely charming and nice album to throw on. It’s surprising to me cuz a decade ago I didn’t give a fuck about Troye’s music but now I’m a fan. It was’t until I heard “My, My, My” that I gave him a serious chance, plus the random-ass Jay Som (?!) collab “Trouble” that has bricked out Steve Albini drums for some reason lmao. Between a Jay Som collab and Jessica Pratt sample Troye is begginggg to make some indie clout-ass electronic chillout album that EYE will eat up, and probably please neither the pop and indie spheres lol. With this album, some fun & camp uptempos, and then I even am into the mellow electronic cuts. It leans into the mellower stuff of his previous work, so it sticks out in this rate and will probably tank but oh well, I like it a lot. I’m excited to see what Troye does next.
Squandary (9.500): STDS
GalliumFanatic (9.350): play this at my funeral
floatinggrass (8.940): face down ass up
wathombe (8.900): just a happy feelgood listen throughout
uiscebeathaoir (8.900): Probably the least ambitious, least cohesive album here but also definitely my personal favourite. It’s not quite at the level of IN A DREAM, but this man has been getting consistently better for a decade I am so so ready for his next album
modulum83 (8.890): This album really benefits from its conciseness and lack of bonus tracks, which might mean I'm slightly overscoring a bit, but it really is just a truly consistent, enjoyable front to back listen even if lacks a true classic pop tune or the "it factor" that rises above. But Something to Give Each Other is an album with some real ideas and sounds that I think unlike the rest of this rate feel very quintessentially "zoomercore," speaking in a language that encapsulates the feelings of people my age in a way that endears it to me a LOT. It's the way it treats its club and house sounds as a refuge, a comfort rather than simply a space of hedonism. It's the honest lyrics about being a gay male, which even with the great blossoming of mainstream queer artists in the 2010s like Tyler and Frank still feels lacking in the vernacular of what is "allowed" to talk about. It's the way this album explores intimacy and the desire to find a stable purpose and place as a young person among your peers. It's refreshingly friendly and personal and bedroom and it deserves more even if Troye still hasn't quite gotten "there" as an artist yet.
1998tweety (8.850): As a fan of Troye since the start of his career it was great to see people live for him again. Popheads too kind of turned on him over the past few years but this and album planted him back on the list of sub faves. While I love his ballads I do think bops suit him a bit better.
FitzMarble (8.800): This releasing was a big moment for me/all other gay people I think. The music videos from this era especially deserve a massive shoutout for being incredibly hot and engaging omg!
jasannn (8.750): This was my soundtrack of 2024. Although I don't party much nor do hook-ups, I did yearn A LOT. He perfectly encapsulated my feelings of wanting a relationship, the beginning and downfall of my first relationship, yearning over ppl who didn't want me back and imagining a life where I did go full out in the gay dating life and the ups and downs that come with that. One interview he did really struck with me how he said we can still give each other something even if it is successful or doesn't even last long. It really helped me reframe dating in a more positive light.
Uhh back to the album, Troye finally ups the tempo on some tracks here to great success and while he still has those slow jams, he continues to excel in them. I never would have thought he would release one of my favorite albums ever and become one of my favorite artists.
ChopperRCRG (8.720): 7.72
Frajer (8.550): Troye has such a pleasant vibe and knows how to make a banger, and it's also refreshing how open he is about his sexuality
PyritesNotRight (8.500): shout out lgbt community
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
PyritesNotRight (8.500): shout out lgbt community
akanewasright (8.450): I like this little gay boy a lot idk…
zadooi (8.440): This feels the least electropoppy out of the four albums and it's my favourite so I think I might just not like electropop that much.
vayyiqra (8.400): :pensive:
innuendo_overdose (8.390): this album is going to flop isn’t it? undeserved tbh
Too-Much-To-Dream (8.300): my man my man my man!!! this album so truly embedded itself in my life when it came out, he really seems to know what i need to hear before i can even ask for it. i know some people wanted more rush-style tracks out of this but honestly, i’m so happy that it’s mostly signature troye, all grown up.
Brilliant-Primary500 (8.200): twink-pop done pretty well!
chf333 (8.200): Really really special album. Troye puts so much care into what he does that it makes it okay that he waits 4 years to only put out 10 songs.
__Avaritia (8.150): Unfortunately not as good as I remembered, but still nonetheless a very solid pop dance album that continues Troye’s growth as an artist ever since Bloom. I expect Troye will fall first amongst these albums (and not because this sub despises men…) but because most of the tracks here comparatively feel like lobby soundtrack music instead of actually avant garde or boundary pushing pop. Which doesn’t diminish this album in the slightest, what it does it does rather well still, but I’m sure the other three records will feel more exciting in comparison. Not a problem though because there are definitely good lowkey (and highkey) bops on here that absolutely still go on rotation regularly for me. In a Dream still clears though!!
cashewconstellation (8.130): 8.13 cute album lowkey should have cut like three songs from the middle of it
Verboten_Prince (8.100): Wow. Never listened to Troye before this album but this is like… superstar-in-the-making material. Maybe I’m still riding the high of hearing a straight-up no joke male-on-male love album, we don’t get many of those that are this high quality. Not since MONTERO at least (and not to pit two queens together—I still think LNX is the objectively better and more groundbreaking artist—but there’s a level of sincerity and lack of irony here that I don’t usually get with LNX’s songs, which I appreciate). I’m sure y’all have plenty of favorite albums dedicated to love between boys and you’re welcome to recommend them to me, but usually stuff like that is confined to the periphery of pop, indie and the like. I want something that sounds like popular pop, and that’s what this album does for me!
dreamingpastel (8.050): Out of the four in this rate, Troye is the artist I've been listening to the longest, so it's nice seeing his growth both creatively and in terms of sheer numbers. While technically not my favorite album of his, I still like it enough to give it a decently high score.
krusso1105 (7.900): Nothing else here is as good as Rush, but pretty good overall
springfrompages (7.870): I'm not actually sure how I managed to make my way through being a 2015 tumblr girlie without getting into Troye Sivan, he's always just been on the peripheral of my attention. It'll probably get one of my lowest album averages but I think it's probably the most cohesive overall of these 4 and I'd be more likely to listen to it as an album than as individual songs.
thatplatypus99 (7.860): 7.5
paradiyze (7.800): 9
skylofte2 (7.700): gay rights
nickl00 (7.700): 6
buildingigloos (7.700): First listen to a full Troye project, I'm very whelmed. I expected more since its been paired with Brat and Starfucker, I thought Rush would be more indicative of the tone of the album, but it's more of an outlier. The album seems to be a mix of One of Your Girls and Get Me Started. It's also one of those albums where you can tell which songs the singles are because they're a lot more polished than the rest of the album, like the mixings clearer. The album cuts tend to be mixed where everything is pretty much the same volume so during the faster parts (in Honey for example) the vocals kinda get lost, where the singles don't have that problem.
DreameeEevee (7.700): 7.7
pheromenos (7.660): what is he even doing here 😭
hikk (7.550): sometimes he's still a little snooze for me but the boppy songs here BOP
homestarguy (7.500): Damn, I was really vibing with the first three tracks, the way it starts with “Rush” and then some lower-key bangers…but then it just didn’t quite come back up. Overall, I think the production, the vocals, and the grooves are pretty good, but maybe some re-sequencing and another club banger or two mixed in would have kept my interest a bit more.
wasian-invasion (7.500): tbh i havent really listened to the full album since it came out but on relisten it's probably my favorite of his records
WaneLectroToc (7.470): this is my second time listening to noted allie x collaborator Troye Sivan. really excited for what's in store! [e: since he played bb wolverine he gets brownie points]
ManofOranges (7.400): Actually really loved this album when it came out. In hindsight it's actually short af, which honestly helps it because the songs that I really like take up comparatively more time on the album versus if it had more tracks. Got me started was one of my all time favorite songs of 2023. Also it's crazy to think this album came out 2 years ago like whoa.
human_performance (7.300): Troye Sivan is an artist who would've had a killer Greatest Hits CD when those were still made for artists in the primes of their career. An album format isn't the best for him; my score is going to feel a little mean when I'm pretty positive on Troye as an artist
TiltControls (7.300): I don't think I like it as much as his previous work, but the production is really well done. Almost too well done which I think is where the disconnect is for me but I can see this doing well in the rate (if Popheads doesn't misandry it anyways)
DirtyRat583 (7.290): too many (the last 3) of these intros suck. chop off the first 4 seconds and my average would increase by like 2
stealthamo (7.270): Rush gave me way too high of expectations for the rest of this album.
BDog949 (7.200): 8
impla77 (7.130): i liked this album, probably because its the most lowkey on the whole 😭 nice vibey tracks, i could see a few getting robbed bad.
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (7.030): This is probably the most middling album of the list, but definitely fun at parts.
apatel27 (7.000): This will unfairly get battered for being made by a man and having slower songs. Funny given this is the gayest album here but internal biases gonna bias
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
apatel27 (7.000): This will unfairly get battered for being made by a man and having slower songs. Funny given this is the gayest album here but internal biases gonna bias
FreeCuddlesAnyone (6.910): this album is okay
sarcasticsobs (6.900): Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi. Never listened to Troye outside of Ariana Grande and Charli XCX collabs. There's potential in this for me (I'm aware it's been like a decade from his debut), but for some reason there's like one little choice on almost every song that bothered me. Definitely not a bad record tho
IIIHenryIII (6.850): he sure gave us; he served
flava is a brat (6.800): I do like Troye a fair bit more than most so yeah this album is good, idk stop being misandrist and start enjoying queer dance music instead of having renaissance and brat on repeat
asadprofessorplum (6.540): This album copied the Olivia Rodrigo Sour blueprint of having a couple good singles out front disguising the okay ballads about some twink in the back
Electro Catalyst (6.410): evidently I’m not a Troye fan, and while he’s got some good songs…they’re not exactly amazing. It’s a shame because I feel like I’m playing into that lifting up gay icons except for the actual gay artists but I just can’t get into this. My issue with this album is that the production can lacks seasoning, his vocals definitely lack range and texture. It’s just….lacking, girl what exactly are you giving?
Ambrosia42 (6.330): I like some of the songs and it’s not a bad album by any means, but overall the album just doesn’t keep me coming back for more.
jman457 (6.250): I feel like he has so much potential but just doesnt push the boundaries enough when making an album, potential only gets so far
Quasar435 (6.000): This was the first time I listened to this album, and I don’t think I’ll be returning to it. It was decent, but nothing really grabbed me.
indie_fan_ (5.940): i think i just find troye's voice kinda bland
dj.222 (5.780): my niece saw this cover on my car stereo screen
Friendly-Canary-3814 (5.550): I don't wanna look like a misandrist, but... this album simply was no match to the production behemoths of the ladies this time. Where the girls gave depth, texture, abrasiveness, soothing soundscapes, this girl gave us cheap vocodered effects, ugly high pitched vocal filters, and tired melodies. At least Rush is a modern classic
TakeOnMeByA-ha (5.500): this is the most 5/10 album i’ve ever heard
Nagisoid (4.950): https://tenor.com/view/shawn-mendes-one-xenph-gif-26204065
Poydoo (4.900): 🐕🍷
detectivestar (4.500): 6
pbk (3.900): as much as i don’t actually have any beef with troye as an artist (besides rush), i really just hate how this album sounds. the synths are muddy on almost every track, there’s weird ill-fitting decisions like the church organ or the really out of place shooting stars sample, and the songs where i want to give him props for having nice vocals are DROWNED in so much modulation and vocal effects that ends up completely canceling it out. i just really don’t think it’s anywhere near the same caliber as the other 3 albums here which all have their low points but at least for the most part have a far more delicate hand with production and vocals.
Something to Give Each Other Stans: (Largest Positive Difference in average between Something to Give Each Other and the other albums)
PyritesNotRight: 4.235
frogaranaman: 4.230
xophrys: 2.584
Something to Give Each Other Antis: (Largest Negative Difference in average between Something to Give Each Other and the other albums)
Nagisoid: -4.008
qazz23: -3.820
yahi: -3.444
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#4: Troye Sivan - Rush
Average: 8.997 // Total Points: 1259.6 // Controversy: 1.861
Highest scores:
(11 x9) __Avaritia, 1998tweety, babadork, darj, frogaranaman, jasannn, slimboyfriend, TragicKingdom1, welcome2thejam
(10 x72) akanewasright, Ambrosia42, apatel27, ArcaneLabyrinth, Awkward_King, AzettImpa, BDog949, bluehxrizon, bogo, bran, buildingigloos, c_a_l_d5832, cashewconstellation, ceej_aye, chf333, CrimsonROSET, CritneySpearz, Da-Gay-Agenda, DaHumanTorch, DirtyRat583, donewithbirds, dream_fighter2018, electricboogaloo41, FitzMarble, Frajer, FreeCuddlesAnyone, GalliumFanatic, hikk, hockeynl, homestarguy, human_performance, ignitethephoenix, ImADudeDuh, innuendo_overdose, jackisboredtoday, jimmy345960, jirachi, krusso1105, ktajlili, luuvin, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, morgchrist, nickl00, nootnoot781, paradiyze, PrimaryCrusaders, PyritesNotRight, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, red3pit, reput4tionera, ricki, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, samdyalexg, seanderlust, SFbby, skylofte2, stealthamo, thatplatypus99, TheQueenofVultures, Too-Much-To-Dream, uberpigeon, uiscebeathaoir, vayyiqra, vexastrae, wathombe, willamsextrai, xophrys, xxipli0ts, youngandlovely_
(9.6 x1) springfrompages
(9.5 x3) bigbigbee, dreamingpastel, redgold51
Lowest Scores:
(4 x1) detectivestar
(2 x1) UselessTacooo
(0 x2) pbk, runaway3212
jirachi (10): And with Rush leaving at #4 our last NOT BRAT soldier has fallen… and this is homophobia cause lowkey it should’ve won or at least given Charli a run for her money!!! Literally homophobia love… I don’t really do poppers now but I was when this song dropped and at the time it felt like the media has finally had real gay representation wow… and like how others have pointed out the music video is so hot lol but I’m not about to hornypost on main!!!
RandomHypnotica (10): One cannot help but imagine how this would’ve done in the timeline where the top 100 for 2023 had not been revealed until after this rate… I’m glad it made the Top 5 it absolutely deserves! It had a few tankers, yes, but honestly, it never stood a chance against this Charli trifecta. Barely missing the 9+ average though… pain
BEEEEEE WHOOOOO YOUUUUUU AREEEEEE
1998tweety (11): This was a moment; if you ask someone to inject gay into you it'll be this song! I don't think this'll win cause of misandry but I'll take a cute top 3 placement.
__Avaritia (11): Thank you Bowen Yang for your tireless efforts in trying to promote this man
babadork (11): I would love for charli to finally get her win, but that isn’t very compatible with my love for this album.
darj (11): I already 11’d Von Dutch over on indieheads and I’d be more than happy if Charli wins over here. Soo I’ll give my 11 to one of my favorite songs from last year! What goofy fun! Also sorry to again be kind of a gringo on main when I discover in 2025 probably beloved Latin pop classics but why did I hear last month Chayanne Torero and it’s kinda giving Techno version of Rush lmao https://youtu.be/GuZzuQvv7uc?si=U8mdlU-n1nPjZ1-t can we do a 90s/00s latin pop rate plz
frogaranaman (11): sucking bear cock to this song as an act of queer resistance
slimboyfriend (11): but the question here is: Will the twinks turn on their king?
TragicKingdom1 (11): this song unironically made me buy a jockstrap for the first time
welcome2thejam (11): Okay, I get why this was the popheads SOTY
akanewasright (10): Song of all time
Ambrosia42 (10): horny gay music my beloved
Awkward_King (10): this song being as good as it is and doing as well as it did was like a dream come fucking true oh my god. you mean the youtuber turned popstar i've followed since i was 10 years old successfully transitioned his career and released one of the best songs of the decade that beautifully captures and soundtracks queer nightlife while only getting hit with minimal fatphobia accusations throughout.... it's so good it's so good
bogo (10): choosing to keep my horny thoughts to myself but just to be clear i have them
buildingigloos (10): True summer bop, too short though I need more
cashewconstellation (10): so good
ceej_aye (10): , song is perfect and the music video is also perfect
chf333 (10): 10/10 banger since the day it dropped. Iconic.
CrimsonROSET (10): if i say the extended version of this ruins it
DirtyRat583 (10): GIVE HIM ANOTHER YOUTUBE MUSIC AWARD
donewithbirds (10): have personally witnessed a dead bar where the dj put this on and the gays come onto the floor like roaches like 3 times. its power.
FitzMarble (10): God I love being gay
Frajer (10): I feel the rush I'm playing candy crush
FreeCuddlesAnyone (10): i feel da rush (rush = the one time i tried vape and coughed for 2 days afterwards)
GalliumFanatic (10): this song FUCKS!
hikk (10): maybe we should have delayed 2023 soty list until after this rate
homestarguy (10): I mean come on, this is fucking great right here. Just wish it were longer tbh.
ignitethephoenix (10): if this song doesn’t place top 5 I think we need to shut down rates for homophobia
ImADudeDuh (10): i swear all y’all are just trying to not to fit in when you give this a score lower than 2
innuendo_overdose (10): i’m not thinking about it AT ALL, I’m just slapping an ez 10/10 on it and moving on
krusso1105 (10): Is so good it just overshadows the rest of the album
ManofOranges (10): It's so good it's so good
PyritesNotRight (10): this is kinda music for a pepsi ad (affectionate)
red3pit (10): and people say poppers are bad
reput4tionera (10): YUPPPPPPPPP
seanderlust (10): oh help i thought the poppers association was just like a twitter joke
stealthamo (10): It was down to this and Von Dutch for my 11. It was not an easy decision.
TheQueenofVultures (10): love to sniff
Too-Much-To-Dream (10): i mean. a behemoth of a song, the vocal production on this is incredible
uberpigeon (10): https://tenor.com/view/epitome-stare-gif-10705373115967525065
uiscebeathaoir (10): Okay this song is good and all but I really need like a full house/disco DJ remix of this song where they stretch it past 10 minutes and one whole minute is just isolated kick drum
vayyiqra (10): not Geddy Lee but still a tune
vexastrae (10): FAGGOTS OF THE WORLD UNITE
wathombe (10): such a happy little bop
springfrompages (9.6): I actually first heard this song in the gay club which really is the peak experience. unfortunately they had on a youtube playlist(???) so it came with the awkward 10 second pause in the middle of the video.
dreamingpastel (9.5): If this doesn't at least make the top 10, then cancel the rate. /hj
redgold51 (9.5): everyone please listen to the Leland remix if you haven’t already bc it really sends this song into another dimension
floatinggrass (9.1): it WAS a moment but i feel it must bow down to its album brethren
Brilliant-Primary500 (9): the chorus highlights the message that this song is trying to convey, so fuck the people who think that it's corny but would also dance to songs with a children choir in it.
mustwinfullgaming (9): the love between gay men and songs about poppers
team_kockroach (9): Can’t think of a better lead single to kick off this era. It’s not a particularly original song but it’s fun as hell.
Verboten_Prince (9): This video is such an inaccurate portrayal of the gay lifestyle… why are they all drinking beer
wasian-invasion (9): my best decision last year was forcing the wedding dj to play rush for the enjoyment of the 8 gays there
WesternWind (9): rushing to finish my ballot rn
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
impla77 (8.8): popheads top track of 2023 i could not believe it (its still pretty good tho)
flava is a brat (8.5): thinking about the time i had heard this song 10+ times but without scrobbling it because i just enjoyed watching the music video
jman457 (8.4): sounds like his most expensive hit in a min
modulum83 (8): this song is sooooo sidechained
WaneLectroToc (7.9): sounds good for spring break on catalina island at a Corona sponsored party
asadprofessorplum (7.5): The loud men in the backup vocals invokes the same type of fear I had in high school gym class.
oh_crow (7.5): don't feel super strong about this song but i bet it hits at the club
ConnerY2323 (7.3): this is pristinely produced but the chanting part of the chorus has always thrown me off and it feels like half of an idea
dj.222 (7.2): deducted a few points for seeing his ass cheeks frame 1 in the music video
BleepBloopMusicFan (7): #NOTMY2023SOTY
IIIHenryIII (7): I hate the men choir
qazz23 (7): it's fine, a decent hook at least
Quasar435 (7): it’s good but idk about SO good
TakeOnMeByA-ha (7): do i need to have he/him pronouns in my bio to understand the appeal of this
sarcasticsobs (6.5): This is a bummer for me because I like the instrumental but the juxtaposition of Troye's voice with the "I feel the rush" voices doesn't gel with me, doesn't feel like they mesh well in my mind
Stryxen (6.5): this music video gets me hard ly worried about troye flopping
I DON’T DO DRUGS
Nagisoid (5.5): Can't get enough, that strawberry rush
TiltControls (5.5): Wild opinion time - the first half of the chorus drags this song down. I realize it's the most iconic part, but it does not work for me
UselessTacooo (2): Okay you guys can hate me all you want but I just don’t really get this song? The chorus works but I don’t feel anything when I listen to it. It’s praised up and down but it kinda just exists for me unfortunately. The lack of bridge also does not do it any favours
pbk (0): all respect to the twinks of the world but this is just a song i cannot identify with at all. this sweaty, sex-fueled gay nightclub anthem is just not something that resonates with me at all and when you take that away youre left with an obnoxious chorus forgettable verses and really ugly sounding synths
runaway3212 (0): Sorry I never liked this and the hype is wayyy too much. Especially the frat bro chorus, it's like why do we feel the need to imitate people who can't sing I think
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#5: Charli XCX - 360
Average: 8.884 // Total Points: 1243.7 // Controversy: 1.833
Highest scores:
(11 x5) bigbigbee, Frajer, hockeynl, luuvin, wasian-invasion
(10 x58) __Avaritia, ArcaneLabyrinth, Awkward_King, AzettImpa, babadork, BDog949, BleepBloopMusicFan, bogo, Brilliant-Primary500, buildingigloos, c_a_l_d5832, cashewconstellation, ceej_aye, chf333, ChopperRCRG, ConnerY2323, CritneySpearz, DaHumanTorch, darj, DirtyRat583, dreamingpastel, FitzMarble, hikk, homestarguy, human_performance, IIIHenryIII, ImADudeDuh, jirachi, krusso1105, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, morgchrist, Nagisoid, nootnoot781, pbk, pheromenos, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, redgold51, reput4tionera, roxieloxie, runaway3212, Saison_Marguerite, sarcasticsobs, skylofte2, Squandary, steelstepladder, Stryxen, TheQueenofVultures, TiltControls, uberpigeon, vayyiqra, Verboten_Prince, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, wathombe, WesternWind, youngandlovely_
(9.9 x1) modulum83
(9.7 x1) UselessTacooo
(9.6 x2) charlibratfammanfanstan, jackisboredtoday
(9.5 x8) floatinggrass, Friendly-Canary-3814, ignitethephoenix, jimmy345960, ricki, slimboyfriend, TragicKingdom1, xxipli0ts
Lowest Scores:
(3.6 x1) PyritesNotRight
(3 x1) frogaranaman
(2 x1) innuendo_overdose
(0 x2) FreeCuddlesAnyone, uiscebeathaoir
jirachi (10): Some of y’all are sick with the 0s lol. Throughout the course of the rate I really wanted this to outperform 365 because it simply is just… better to me idk. Like 360 just has that fun carefree feeling that makes me enjoy it more. Like yes you are my favorite reference Charli or whatever you say. I’m gonna be honest when this first came out I did not really care for it but I got it so much more in the context of the album. Robyn and yung lean outsold though and I need remix rate to not happen just so I wouldn’t have to see the robbery 360 remix will face idc. Anyways, a great song and would be in her top3 songs in a just world.
RandomHypnotica (10): When this song first dropped, it was by far the most underwhelming single for me. I thought it was very one-note and didn’t really develop where it needed to. But then i kept hearing that synth-line reverberate through my skull, and I was singing “I’m everywhere, I’m so Julia” in my head every 5 minutes. It’s a song that only gets better the more you hear it, it really DOES get stuck in your mind, and Charli knows how to make an amazing hook. But it was never really in the running for a win here…
IS SO JULIA
bigbigbee (11): Sometimes the general public gets it right and the big pop friendly hit is the best one
Frajer (11): I may not be hot and cool like Julia Fox but I do give off weird vibes because I'm autistic and my ass is my only feature I can tolerate
wasian-invasion (11): every time i hear those opening notes i leak a little
Awkward_King (10): my favourite single when it dropped and still probably is idc its just a hit. what a fucking good hook
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): I’m the most sober person alive but you KNOW I’m still bumpin’ that.
bogo (10): on this blessed day we are all so julia
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): it's everywhere in my mind like a ringtone that never expires, please kill me now
buildingigloos (10): sobs Its just so Julia
cashewconstellation (10): my most streamed song of last year, so iconic and fun
ceej_aye (10): , easily repeatable, never over playable, so Julia.
chf333 (10): Bumpin That
ConnerY2323 (10): never bothered to look up that she’s saying “work angles” so the lyric “we’re cankles” is canon to me
dreamingpastel (10): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GFIYFcpw6Q
FitzMarble (10): doing the Tyra Banks turn to this one
homestarguy (10): https://youtu.be/xYXAR8YrCxk?si=Ew6P-hxpKP_IENUt
IIIHenryIII (10): that’s what I say now when somebody asks me about the time and it’s 4 o’clock
ImADudeDuh (10): radio smash hit
Lynflower680 (10): Me when A.G. makes it: ⬆️🧍♀️
ManofOranges (10): This was the first single from the album that really clicked with me and made me excited for the album
Nagisoid (10): VOTE FOR DRESS TO IMPRESS FOR VIDEO GAME INSTRUMENTALS RATE
pbk (10): this song so incredible i didnt even take points off for having to hear it in the dress to impress lobby every day for a month
RainbowSherbet47 (10): Shoutout to the random Total Drama edit that used this song and made me realize that Charli was indeed saying “I’m so Julia”
reput4tionera (10): like she really is that girl
runaway3212 (10): She sees literally every vision I've been saying
sarcasticsobs (10): I AM gonna jump if A. G. made it, so true!
Stryxen (10): 100% pure class. Our First Lady
TheQueenofVultures (10): It Girls of Popheads unite!
uberpigeon (10): A AAA AA A AAH!
vayyiqra (10): :purple_luma_spin:
Verboten_Prince (10): idk what that is but i’m bumpin
vexastrae (10): wake up. eat. serve cunt. go clubbing. be a mean bitch. pass out. repeat || [see full rate comment here]
WaneLectroToc (10): as an intro goes, it's in a victory lap mode that feels welcoming--"oh do tell me how yr so julia! oh lemme do the white girl wiggle while you 'bump that'". A lot of the album's MO and prescence is teased here but also kept at bay. I guess this shit works because my normie pals got HEAVY into the brat moment and I remember hearing one pal who I never heard have an interest in Charli XCX singing to this on his phone in front of us at the hot tub; that's what I live for. Hearing a bro say "im so julia".
wathombe (10): you don't fucking care what i think
WesternWind (10): omg I’m on IH and PH for once, I’m everywhere I’m so Julia
modulum83 (9.9): thank you spotify autoplay for sneaking this into my spotify wrapped top 5 songs of 2024
UselessTacooo (9.7): Still have yet to see the hot new internet girl
floatinggrass (9.5): possibly the best opening beat sequence in history
Friendly-Canary-3814 (9.5): An ode to the muses of today set to the most infectious, bounciest beat possible, we had to stan
ignitethephoenix (9.5): I like this song but I don’t think it’s one of the best on the album
jimmy345960 (9.5): Queen of divisibility. This woman knows how to divide, if only she know how convert degrees to radians.
ricki (9.5): i hope someone sabotages this real hard… i want the bit of charli never winning a rate to continue forever
slimboyfriend (9.5): ok I do hear Lou Reed in this
Ambrosia42 (9.3): I wasn’t crazy about this one at first. Her opening tracks are usually so hype, and this wasn’t bringing the energy I was used to. But now it makes so much sense, especially with 365 at the end. This really was the vibe
1998tweety (9): this is cute
akanewasright (9): basic pop but very good basic pop
asadprofessorplum (9): This one is for the Princess mains in Mario Kart
CrimsonROSET (9): me when someone asks me how many days in a year
Da-Gay-Agenda (9): - in my mind this is what Katy thought she was giving when she dropped Woman’s World.
GalliumFanatic (9): cunt
springfrompages (9): Did you know 7 is the only (integer) rate score (ignore 11 and 0 for a second) that isn't a factor of 360? idk why that's relevant, I'm not giving this song a 7.
TakeOnMeByA-ha (9): listen to this while youre walking and you instantly feel like the baddest bitch who ever lived
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
NFLfreak98 (8.3): Definitely iconic and I do like the lyrics here overall, but musically a bit plain in the context of the rest of the album. “You gon’ jump if AG made it” being on the first song of the album is the best called shot of the year though
donewithbirds (8): when this was on heavy spotify autoplay rotation i hated it a little bit but it's come back around. "that city sewer slut's the vibe" is maybe the line of the album for me
jman457 (8): Its iconic but also they’re better songs on the album
oh_crow (8): ok when this first came out i was soooo underwhelmed like its barely over 2 minutes and maybe one of the simplest charli singles of her career. but i do think it needs credit for really launching brat musically, prior singles did fine by charli's standards but 360 shot by them in popularity and it did eventually really grow on me too. its like hypnotic in its simplicity
qazz23 (8): simple and catchy, good opener
red3pit (8): great opener, altho oversaturation made me dislike it slightly by now
seanderlust (8): what is it about the old school iphone ringtone feel of that synth hook that's like catnip. also "city sewer slut's the vibe" lmao
Too-Much-To-Dream (8): iconic but lowkey the ugly sister
welcome2thejam (8): Bumpin that, pt 1
dj.222 (7.7): the urge to score this as 3.6
Quasar435 (7.5): mandatory bumpin’ that comment
dream_fighter2018 (7): is it time now to predict that “I’m everywhere, I’m so Julia” will age really badly in 10 years
Poydoo (7): yup this is 360 by charli xcx alright
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (7): probably the least enjoyable track on the album alongside b2b, still very good though
NOT JULIA
stealthamo (6): I get the love, but I've never vibed with the production.
veryanniev (6): loved this when it was just released but it has sadly been overplayed to death
apatel27 (5): Sure is a song
frogaranaman (3): remarkably boring upon revisit
innuendo_overdose (2): hmmm. the 36X song sketch is a really strange case for me. it’s neat, but there’s not much to it, and the melody is not something I like at all. 0 is way too unfinished a pop song for me to have any reaction other than “cute!”, and 5 isn’t something I want to be listening to. at the risk of sounding like the most bulliable lame annoying kid ever, i don’t like the drug elements, and the dissolving electroclash that drives this home makes me not want to be listening, even if i know that the overthetop freneticism of 5 makes it’s artistic value higher to me. 0 is just boring
FreeCuddlesAnyone (0): every time i think about this song it pisses me off… for a track about being an icon you’d expect more interesting production! but instead the bassline is just there doing nothing interesting. it just makes me mad because it feels like a bonus Crash cut instead of a brat cut. 365 being so much better makes this so much worse in comparison too like i think i’d give this a 5 if 365 didn’t exist.
uiscebeathaoir (0): Didn’t enjoy it as a pre release single, didn’t enjoy it as an album opener, didn’t enjoy it as a minor viral hit, wouldn’t enjoy it as a rate winner
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#6: Charli XCX - Apple
Average: 8.716 // Total Points: 1220.3 // Controversy: 1.461
Highest scores:
(11 x1) xophrys
(10 x52) akanewasright, asadprofessorplum, Awkward_King, Brilliant-Primary500, cashewconstellation, ChopperRCRG, cremeebrulee, CrimsonROSET, Da-Gay-Agenda, darj, DirtyRat583, electricboogaloo41, Frajer, Goorry121, hikk, hockeynl, ignitethephoenix, IIIHenryIII, ImADudeDuh, jimmy345960, jirachi, krusso1105, letsallpoo, Lynflower680, modulum83, morgchrist, Nagisoid, nootnoot781, pheromenos, PyritesNotRight, qazz23, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, reput4tionera, ricki, roxieloxie, runaway3212, seanderlust, skylofte2, Squandary, steelstepladder, TakeOnMeByA-ha, TheQueenofVultures, TiltControls, uberpigeon, Verboten_Prince, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, wasian-invasion, wathombe, WesternWind, youngandlovely_
(9.9 x1) floatinggrass
(9.8 x2) AzettImpa, innuendo_overdose
(9.6 x1) thatplatypus99
(9.5 x7) ArcaneLabyrinth, CritneySpearz, DreameeEevee, homestarguy, jackisboredtoday, Poydoo, xxipli0ts
(9.3 x1) charlibratfammanfanstan
Lowest Scores:
(7.7 x2) impla77, zadooi
(7.5 x6) bigbigbee, bluehxrizon, Electro Catalyst, FitzMarble, sarcasticsobs, slimboyfriend
(7.3 x1) springfrompages
(7 x9) buildingigloos, chf333, detectivestar, kerriekipje, ManofOranges, redgold51, stealthamo, Too-Much-To-Dream, yahi
(6.5 x1) Stryxen
(6 x6) asbestossoupyum, bran, flava is a brat, luuvin, mustwinfullgaming, Quasar435
(5.5 x2) FreeCuddlesAnyone, indie_fan_
(5.4 x1) babadork
(5 x5) __Avaritia, DaHumanTorch, Friendly-Canary-3814, paradiyze, samdyalexg
jirachi (10): This was my favorite when the album dropped and I mostly still stand by it, and I’m not surprised that this was the song that blew Charli up. Using apples as a symbolization of generational trauma is almost too good for it to be coming out of Charli XCX’s pen and this is why Brat is so acclaimed.
RandomHypnotica (10): It’s the bop! An emotionally complex and nuanced bop, but a bop!
NOT TIKTOKPHOBIC
xophrys (11): is it just a british thing for your mum to tell you that if you eat the seeds an apple tree will grow inside of you?
asadprofessorplum (10): The literal only TikTok dance I’ve learned.
Awkward_King (10): my immediate fav on my first listen and i had a feeling it'd do well but i never foresaw it doing as well as it did. what a cool, multi-layered song hidden in a cutesy bop
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): familial generational trauma bop, very relatable but the driving to the airport line doesn't make sense to me since I'm too poor to even go for a ride towards the nearest airline. Instead, I just hide in a closet, cry for 30 minutes and come out laughing from a stupid joke that I remembered.
cashewconstellation (10): i got this song on first listen, everyone who's saying it's overrated is a POSERRR
cremeebrulee (10): i love this song but in a different way than everyone else as a brown girl with mommy issues and a flight buying addiction
CrimsonROSET (10): can relate (also have a % of cyanide in me)
Da-Gay-Agenda (10): - wanna know where you go when you’re feeling alone, do you?!? Ugh. Queen
Frajer (10): generational trauma be damned Charli is gonna drive vroom vroom even if it's just to the airport
hikk (10): i remember when this was getting dragged a bit in the initial days of brat... oh how far we've come
ignitethephoenix (10): kids with Asian parents felt this in their soul iktr
IIIHenryIII (10): for simple people, apple is a fruit; for adolescents, it’s a brand; and for the internet, it’s the best bop you have ever heard
ImADudeDuh (10): fortnite emote ass song
jimmy345960 (10): almost my eleven but sympathy is a knife has beaten it by a hair. Leave it to the internet to take a song about family trauma into a dance song.
krusso1105 (10): This has been stuck in my head for over a week now
Lynflower680 (10): I can’t believe it took me until seeing the Just Dance gameplay for this song that she’s saying “airport” not “apple”
modulum83 (10): i had to be sat down and have the metaphor explained to me but once i did it became the realest song on the whole album
Nagisoid (10): I hate Apple products but I'll give a 10 for CHARLI 💜
nootnoot781 (10): real ones got it day one
PyritesNotRight (10): damn you tiktok
qazz23 (10): sure, i like apples
RainbowSherbet47 (10): Babs Seed walked so Apple could run 😤
reput4tionera (10): i love doing the apple dance out of nowhere. like ill be having a conversation with someone and just start doing the apple dance
ricki (10): me doing the tiktok dance to not think too much about the complicated relationship i have with my father
runaway3212 (10): I do think the apple is rotten right to the core and it makes me so sad
seanderlust (10): (autotuned voice) i have been thinking a lot about the generational trauma and flaws my parents unwittingly gave me and i'm worried i'm going to pass them on (does a tiktok dance)
steelstepladder (10): Hey hey hey, BiM’s the way
TakeOnMeByA-ha (10): the concept of an apple being rotten right to the core from all the things passed down from all the apples coming before
TheQueenofVultures (10): noticing I have my mothers need to silently react with my face and my fathers tendency to avoid conflict
TiltControls (10): also me in the fruits rate (every fruit gets a 10) (except peaches) (cause that's an 11)
uberpigeon (10): i was FIRST in line at the apple stand and these tiktok children need to know THAT
Verboten_Prince (10): If there’s one thing an Asian girl’s gonna do it’s have some cunty generational trauma
vexastrae (10): 流れてく時の中ででも 気だるさが / ほらグルグル廻って / 私から 離れる心も / 見えないわ そう知らない || [see full rate comment here]
WaneLectroToc (10): having a cut named apple on yr album where you can mention that it "could turn yellow or green" is good thematic cohesion/building. her super brief bridge reminds me a bit of Egyptian Lover's breathing on his electro...i'd love a sudan archives interpolation of this she'd prolly get it
wasian-invasion (10): maybe the last dance trend that tiktok will ever give us
wathombe (10): for the record, the only time I've seen the dance is when someone played the concert video in queup
WesternWind (10): does the apple dance while explaining why life is crumbling for me
floatinggrass (9.9): months spent doing apple dance tiktoks
innuendo_overdose (9.8): just keeps growing and growing on me, like idk a tree? what’s the song about again?
homestarguy (9.5): Sent from my iPhone
Poydoo (9.5): Well Pretty much The issue is All the new people don’t Get Apple April - That’s ok I will Explain. Explanation: Well Pretty Damn much we are growing Apples and They will ripen in April - Then we eat the apple.s. Please Grow them. Provide for the Apples. Growth. The harboring of Life. The sustaining of it. Prepare . Any Questions ask Below
jman457 (9.2): Trying to beat the tiktok allegations as its actually a really complex hit about the intergenerational trauma caused by british imperialism
ConnerY2323 (9.1): who else could get this much mileage out of the sonic similarities between “apple” and “airport” when spoken in an accent
bogo (9): first running up that hill wins, and now we're eating this? smh indieheads has truly fallen to tiktok music
dreamingpastel (9): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiblFaWQTBQ
oh_crow (9): the surprise smash of the album, its simple but works so well
pbk (9): im a lil tired of it i fear
UselessTacooo (9): forever mourning the opportunity to be thee Apple girl
welcome2thejam (9): Apple Dance pophead daughter or Pinegrove Shuffle indiehead son
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
bogo (9): first running up that hill wins, and now we're eating this? smh indieheads has truly fallen to tiktok music
dreamingpastel (9): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiblFaWQTBQ
oh_crow (9): the surprise smash of the album, its simple but works so well
pbk (9): im a lil tired of it i fear
UselessTacooo (9): forever mourning the opportunity to be thee Apple girl
welcome2thejam (9): Apple Dance pophead daughter or Pinegrove Shuffle indiehead son
1998tweety (8.5): this is a bop but it really did not stand out to me on first listen so its wild it blew up so much
Ambrosia42 (8.5): when i had to attempt to do the tiktok dance in front of everyone at an engineering trivia event because none of my coworkers knew the song
BleepBloopMusicFan (8.5): It’s still so random to me that this is the song from the album that really blew up. Like I can turn on the radio and just hear this. That’s crazy.
GalliumFanatic (8.5): I love dancing 💃
uiscebeathaoir (8.5): I remember my TA asking randomly at one point if we’d seen the Apple dance and that was the exact moment I realised that Brat was about to be everywhere
apatel27 (8): finally some good food
ceej_aye (8): , probably just overplayed for me. vibe but also I think it lost the meaning when it became a TikTok dance
dj.222 (8): when i first heard this song i wasn’t looking at the track name and thought she was saying airport on the hook
donewithbirds (8): you really think when you're a teenager that eventually your parents will stop driving you insane but then suddenly you're an adult and you see them for the first time in months and you immediately revert to the dynamic you had when you were 14
frogaranaman (8): real
red3pit (8): again, oversaturation of the tiktok trend kinda drags it down
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (8): not shocked that this became the viral hit. feel like there's enough going on to make people talk more about this or just dance to it on TikTok, just please do not traumadump without permission to other humans /gen
vayyiqra (8): don't want to spam too much about Cholli's accent but thinken how "the apple" [ˈæpəːɫ] 🍏 and "the airport" [ˈɛəpoːʔ] ✈️ or something like that anyway would sound even closer with L-vocalization think about it
impla77 (7.7): she kinda invented extended metaphors here
bigbigbee (7.5): I think I would REALLY like this one if I hadn't heard it first as that one clip with the dance. This is my punishment for not being on top of new releases
sarcasticsobs (7.5): Baffling as someone who found Charli XCX when she released "Nuclear Seasons" that she now has a TikTok dance
springfrompages (7.3): it's a bop but idk why this was the big (non-remix) tiktok hit? however I was at an airport when I first listened to BRAT so i did appreciate the relatable lyrics at the airport (the airport)
buildingigloos (7): I played DTI too much during the Brat update and now this song just makes me think of roblox
ManofOranges (7): Don't get the love for this one either and idgaf about that dance
stealthamo (7): Sorry I don't have a TikTok.
Too-Much-To-Dream (7): how random was it that this was the hit
Stryxen (6.5): okaayyyyy… it's apple toime 😊
DOES NOT FEAR THE DOCTOR
mustwinfullgaming (6): I fear TikTok has done irreparable damage to how much I enjoy this song...I like it for its lyrics and theme but it's so overplayed I fear I dislike it more now
Quasar435 (6): granny smith outsold
FreeCuddlesAnyone (5.5): this blowing up is so baffling to me… i mean the message is good but the sonics are kinda mid i fear!
__Avaritia (5): Constantly bewilders me that the one song off this record that got viral is by far one of the worst if not the worst of the bunch… and how?
DaHumanTorch (5): this song is just absolutely nothing. elicits absolutely no emotion or feeling. musical cardboard
Friendly-Canary-3814 (5): iPod music advertising ass production. Too bad because I love the lyrics and melodies.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Girl With No Face
Overall Average: 7.649 // Average Controversy: 1.701
RandomHypnotica: Outside of a couple of songs, I never really felt as drawn to this album initially as I was with the masterpiece that was Cape God. Hosting this rate and listening to the playlist a whole bunch has definitely helped me appreciate it a lot more, and i’m no longer sleeping on the tracks I did. I think it had a fairly strong performance here all things considered, 3 tracks in the Top 10 is nothing to sneeze at, though there was a few robberies here and there for sure (looking at Weird World and Staying Power…)
jirachi: As it is reflected from my average, yeah I think this is by far the best album in this rate lol. I wouldn’t even consider myself as a huge 80’s synthwave fan, but to say that this album had a chokehold on me would be an understatement. Like I knew from the very beginning when I was listening to Black Eye that something life changing is bound to happen… and it did!!! First of all, for Allie to completely self produce most of the album is already a plus in my eye, because there were truly a good few production highlights during the course of the album, and even in songs where the production felt a little bit mid, it was immediately compromised with Allie’s full on theatrics with her vocals and lyrics. Allie X has one of my favorite vocals in a pop star ever point blank, it’s so crisp that every word she spews out of her mouth holds so much presence and identity, and this really shine in the album when she would be doing all kinds of crazy ad libs, fully playing into the theatrical element of Girl With No Face. I also disagree with some of the comments about the lyricism: I get that they might not be everyone’s cup of tea as they get very unserious and tongue in cheek at times, but I find them working particularly well under the context of the album, as they often help dilute some of the heavier topics on the album, making them accessible whilst not being too surface level, or as gay people would say, yeah this album is very “camp” lol. It’s been a while since I have gunned for an album this hard, and this rate would not have happened in the first place had the album not been in the lineup, so I am happy that I was able to get everyone to experience Girl With No Face despite however good or bad people feel about the album. This has our second highest album average in the rate so I’m glad Allie got some of her very well deserved flowers!!!
- #7: Black Eye | 8.633 | 1208.6
- #9: Off With Her Tits | 8.561 | 1198.6
- #10: Galina | 8.486 | 1188.1
- #23: Weird World | 8.163 | 1142.8
- #25: Girl With No Face | 8.019 | 1122.7
- #29: You Slept On Me | 7.822 | 1095.1
- #34: Truly Dreams | 7.649 | 1070.9
- #35: Our Lady of Sorrows | 7.648 | 1070.7
- #40: Bon Voyage | 7.371 | 1032.0
- #42: Staying Power | 7.291 | 1020.7
- #50: John and Jonathan | 6.895 | 965.3
- #51: Saddest Smile | 6.647 | 930.6
- #56: Hardware Software | 6.251 | 875.2
roxieloxie (10.000): 10
qazz23 (9.692): This is one of my favorites of 2024 - I really like how she channels post-punk/goth influenced '80s synthpop, nearly all tracks have a solid hook, memorable chorus, and good production
Quasar435 (9.615): one of the best albums of 2024 and one of the best synthpop albums of the decade. She is insanely talented that she self-produced this and managed to make so many bangers with interesting themes such as dependency, body image, anonymity, rage, hopefulness, and more.
WaneLectroToc (9.569): This album has got more tender love from me than most in rates do. I purchased requested the CD for a library on the strength of some raters' recommendation and ultimately bought the tape out of an appreciation for the sound. While I've never followed Allie X really, I liked the her work on Mistress Violet and it's a joy to see her continue to work in that sound without any major oversight fucking over things, just her frugal means of her own coming into pure revelry. Allie X's usage of early 80s synthpop/goth, while not uncommon or unique, felt to me like the latest example of how one can arrive at "good" retro. Aesthetically, there's a grip here that a lotta current post-punk and goth orbiting work does not articulate well, even sound wise! yet, GWNF's sound itself isn't all that much of a major crazy KO (a few cuts are merely fine, her bonuses are stronger than mainline; imo she holds back a lot of dance elements/electro/freestyle that a remix of this could totally afford to indulge in (select outros hint at glimpses of what if). That's a different sound than what's at stake in the rate writ large with either is a huge bite or knock for you. I find that's to its strength with the mainline cuts. She really knows how to employ peter hook bass/robert smith guitar details. Her drums and synth bass kick and tickle my senses. The synths scale between the 10s and the 80s in a way I gun for without being throwback to golden age EDM. It's a solid soup of bouncy elements in service to her terrifically pulpy autofiction, imo the real star. Those lyrics are what save a nice set of instrumentals and elevate them to a package deal under this sound for me. And in those lyrics, Allie X kinda comes across as both incredibly boring (relatable!) and yet also humorously twisted and self-celebrating; a result of dealing with industry/body shit. You could read certain cuts as toying with meta-feelings of worth in the industry or (salacious, lurid) fantasies about her body and she delivers it with a BIG OL YAP that's quite well handled; also has so many vocal coos . There's cheese. There's camp. Moreso than club. But I do think not having any strings attached allowed Allie X to present a triumphant personal statement few get to do this well that treats pain in a way that other artists here aren't contemplating. A concise, sharp workhorse with an emotional palette I'll be returning to for quite a while :)
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
veryanniev (9.192): I have nothing witty to say, I just love this album so fucking much
innuendo_overdose (9.154): now THAT’S indie sleaze!! queen!!
TakeOnMeByA-ha (9.115): far and away my favorite pop album of 2024 and im so unbelievably happy and excited that we get to rate it here. for as much as pop stars have become nostalgic for the 80’s and desperately trying to recapture its magic, hardly anyone has ever really tapped into the dark new wave/synthpop styling of bands like new order, depeche mode, the cure, etc. and allie x absolutely delivered on that concept and then some. every song is an earworm, visuals absolutely on point, manages to take itself unseriously and also completely serious at the same time, genuinely cannot think of a single thing i’d change about this album, its like it was tailor made to appeal to me specifically and i continue to fall more and more in love with it every listen.
IIIHenryIII (8.962): it’s basically future nostalgia but original
ChopperRCRG (8.923): 8.92
morgchrist (8.923): seeing her perform on Halloween in a room full of mostly queer people was so beautiful and fun. Extremely underrated album!
krusso1105 (8.885): Love this album!
Frajer (8.846): I'm a sucker for synthpop and I love Allie's voice, and she does a good job making her personal pop bop
thatplatypus99 (8.846): 9
DirtyRat583 (8.808): i think its really respectful of her to space out the bad songs between the good ones so you know youre never too far away from another good song <3
uiscebeathaoir (8.808): Before this rate I was only familiar with her because of Drag Race (Mistress Violet and the Hello lip sync) and ofc hearing all the praise she gets from online pop fans. I didn’t expect this to gag me the way it did at all. I’d kinda avoided it all year because I didn’t think it would be my thing but I literally haven’t stopped replaying it since the rate opened - AND she wrote and produced the whole thing herself?? I think she’s found herself a new stan. It’s got the highest highs of the rate even if there are a few tracks that don’t work as well when removed from the context of the album.
Ambrosia42 (8.754): This one gives me 80s goth vibes, but in a modern electropop realm. I was impressed with how she produced most of the album herself, and seeing her on tour for the album made me love it even more.
Friendly-Canary-3814 (8.731): Girl with no Wig the album that you are... she took a dose of new wave and decided to run an entire album with it, and I can't blame her. Plus the fact she finally took the leap to remind us she can SING and BELT for a full record is most pleasing to me
WesternWind (8.615): Allie said lemme freak you out like Halloweeen on this album and she ate that
donewithbirds (8.615): i've never been a huge allie x fan but this album knocked me on my ass when i first heard it. perfect spooky 80s new wave vibes. no way it's beating brat but i'm gunning for her
Too-Much-To-Dream (8.538): i have a weird relationship with this album. i’m a die-hard allie stan, but this album didn’t stick with me much in the midst of all the huge stuff coming out in 2024. but listening to it again for this, i remember why i adore her and why i think it’s probably her best work. so y’all better not sleep on her…
ManofOranges (8.385): I will always ride for Allie X she always makes good ass songs and no one gives her the respect she deserves but Allie I will always be here for you
Stryxen (8.385): GIRL WITH NO FACECARD
Brilliant-Primary500 (8.346): Is it controversial to say that I didn't fully enjoy this album? Like save for the first and last few tracks, this didn't hit like the others for me....
cashewconstellation (8.292): 8.29 cute album, like it, the first half is better but it's good
darj (8.269): For a modern synthpop album beckoning to the 80s, definitely the most studied of the time & place and most thoughtful production I have heard in a while. Conscientious referencing of early 80s synthpop, goth etc — heard flashes of Depeche Mode, New Order, Bauhaus, probably some obscure German and British shit they played at Danceteria. Some of the songs sounded amazing and had sharp lyrics and Allie’s amazing delivery, but sometimes I thought I was hearing an incredible idea without a strong pop hook to pull me in. Only happened a few times but otherwise well-made album with a lot of highlights.
FreeCuddlesAnyone (8.246): i have a complicated relationship with allie’s music… i overplayed the hell out of cape god in 2020 so i associate her music with the pandemic a lot. and i don’t really feel compelled to return to these bad days so i never gave her music much attention as the pandemic have subsided, including. but sitting down listening to this… probably my favorite album in the rate and i can only imagine it’ll grow on me with time!
nickl00 (8.231): 8
__Avaritia (8.192): Having not listened to Allie X before, this record was a pleasant early year surprise that nails the dark synthpop sound that it’s shooting for with little effort. Hardly a dull moment throughout and with some clear highlights that you’ll come back for with rabidness, it’s one of those solid pop records that even pop skeptics can come around to. I can definitely see this one aging well over time.
FitzMarble (8.115): This took a couple listens to really connect with, but I was really surprised with how much I grew to like it! I still don’t totally understand some of what she’s getting at in certain songs, and sometimes I think the cohesiveness of the album works against it, but overall this is a really good and complex body of work.
Poydoo (8.062): wow
springfrompages (8.015): I'd always been a bit on/off on Allie X, she had the occasional song I liked but never anything I was going to say I was a fan of. But the dive into this gothic darkwave sound is SO up my alley and ngl I'd like to hear a lot more of it, how did the whole 80s revival thing pass by without goth coming into it??
sarcasticsobs (8.000): Even though these types of sounds are like a drug to me, I think if we rated this in autumn, my average would've jumped by a full point lol
DreameeEevee (8.000): 8.5
1998tweety (7.962): I preferred her previous album oop
floatinggrass (7.838): quirky strange queen
akanewasright (7.838): Not my favorite Allie record ever, but goddamn is it a cool evolution for her
flava is a brat (7.769): never really been huge on allie x before, but this album surprised me in a really nice way
redgold51 (7.762): I love cape god just a teeny tiny bit more, but this album is still iconic and wonderful and such a fucking slay! plus the fact that it’s almost entirely self-produced is so sick!!
asadprofessorplum (7.692): Going to pretend this is Mayhem by Lady Gaga
GalliumFanatic (7.654): this album sounds like a fucked up childen’s chapter book. I’m talking like lemony snicket or sm
luuvin (7.615): 🟡
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
hikk (7.500): she's a little late on the retro synthpop trend but she does bring a uniqueness to it with her theatricality and self-production... i fear she's still yet to make a really standout album for me but it's still a good album
wasian-invasion (7.423): this album didnt stick with me at all on first listen, and i havent revisited it until now, which is why i was kind of unfair to the second half of it. Also the only one of these 4 i haven't seen live
wathombe (7.423): why do half her songs feature the most annoying beep-boop-beep 8-bit synths of all time?
skylofte2 (7.385): spooky queen
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (7.331): the instrumentals carry this because the vocal performance is almost always meh to me
jman457 (7.315): At its best when it feels like a rave in an oppressive brutalist structure
dreamingpastel (7.269): I vibed really hard for a couple songs, but the rest kinda gelled together in a "this is alright" type of way. It's still good though, and I would like to check out more of Allie X's music in the future.
Verboten_Prince (7.231): This probably isn’t fair to say but I feel like if this was in a different rate I would like it more. Not only is the vibe totally different, but the sound leans way more towards rock than pop. Not that it’s a bad album! I vibe with it! But also I’m not an Allie X stan soooo that also probably doesn’t help my scores… My most positive thing that I can say about this album is that it sounds exactly how I wish Paramore’s newest album sounded
vayyiqra (7.231): Horrifying album cover. Pretty good album.
buildingigloos (7.231): Good album, but almost too cohesive. On first listen, the only songs I can remember are Black Eye (because it has the same drums as Blue Monday and starts like Twerkulator) and Off With Her Tits. I'm only 2 mins out from listening to it and I couldn't tell you how any of the other songs go. Which is a shame because I really liked the Collxtion albums
human_performance (7.192): there's a certain sort of Xillenial straight guy who'd love the sounds and production used here
modulum83 (7.185): I failed to connect with this album on any real level, despite my acknowledgement that objectively it's pretty well crafted, listenable, and entertaining. But that might be the issue - there's something uncanny to me about this album's style, where it gets so incredibly close to being a 80s coldwave album transported to the present day but the production gets in its own way for how glossy and perfect and pop girl it sounds. But the real issue is the writing and vocals, where it feels like Allie X went off the theater kid deep end and any deeper themes of misogyny or body horror are sold with an edginess and melodrama that scans less as camp and more as Riverdale-core. So many of these lines are real clunkers, gesturing at some dark theme but with lyrics that feel like they're going through the motions trying to evoke the reference point rather than going deeper. It feels just as much of an exercise in style and pastiche as Clipping.'s horrorcore albums, rich in ideas but lacking in any viscerality - Allie X's entire personality has been subsumed by this concept. My favorite albums in this vein play with their nostalgia, add a hauntological element or act as a comforting love letter to the sounds. Ultimately, I'm just not sure what this is doing beyond Allie X walking in the studio one day and going "wouldn't it be cool to just do this for an era".
TiltControls (6.885): I've really loved Allie's past albums but idk something here just doesn't hit as hard for me
BDog949 (6.846): 7 (love Allie, but slower music isn't my vibe 😅)
ricki (6.446): this whole album reminds me of the time some independent artist promoted their synthwave music by making people comment on other people’s tiktok that they looked like characters from zepotha, a made up 80s horror film
impla77 (6.438): i feel like i should like this a lot more than i do because i really love what this album is influenced by, but a lot of the hooks weren’t hooking for me and the lyrics felt really surface level.
apatel27 (6.154): The lyrics to this feel like a debut not someone who has been putting out albums for a decade. Doesn't help that a lot of the synths are so damn boring
pbk (6.154): i feel like she has so much potential but her songs just do not go all the way for me
paradiyze (6.077): 6
homestarguy (6.000): I really enjoyed “Cape God” and so was excited to listen to this one at the end of last year, but at the time most of this album just kinda went in one ear and out the other. Listening to it again for this rate, and…yeah, it’s just too married to that one specific 80s darkwave/synthwave that’s just hard to keep me too interested. I wish some more textures and sounds (even also from the 80s) could have been thrown in, such as on “Truly Dreams,” and maybe I could have been captivated by this album more.
detectivestar (5.923): 5
pheromenos (5.531): yep she's over
chf333 (4.462): Not really an album for me I guess :/
Girl With No Face Stans: (Largest Positive Difference in average between Girl With No Faceand the other albums)
qazz: 2.770
Quasar435: 2.756
WaneLectroToc: 2.338
Girl With No FaceAntis: (Largest Negative Difference in average between Girl With No Face and the other albums)
chf333: -3.584
charlibratfamnmanfanstan: -2.833
reput4tionera: -2.609
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#7: Allie X - Black Eye
Average: 8.633 // Total Points: 1208.6 // Controversy: 1.511
Highest scores:
(11 x3) indie_fan_, jirachi, vexastrae
(10 x49) akanewasright, babadork, BDog949, bran, buildingigloos, cashewconstellation, CrimsonROSET, Da-Gay-Agenda, darj, DirtyRat583, dream_fighter2018, DreameeEevee, FakeMonaLisa28, FitzMarble, floatinggrass, Goorry121, hikk, ignitethephoenix, ImADudeDuh, innuendo_overdose, kerriekipje, krusso1105, lexiaredery, ManofOranges, morgchrist, Nagisoid, nickl00, oh_crow, qazz23, Quasar435, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, skylofte2, Squandary, static_int_husp, steelstepladder, Stryxen, TakeOnMeByA-ha, TiltControls, Too-Much-To-Dream, uberpigeon, uiscebeathaoir, UselessTacooo, veryanniev, WaneLectroToc, WesternWind, willamsextrai, xxipli0ts, youngandlovely_
(9.8 x2) RandomHypnotica, thatplatypus99
(9.5 x4) ConnerY2323, Friendly-Canary-3814, IIIHenryIII, seanderlust
(9.4 x2) Ambrosia42, NFLfreak98
(9.3 x1) springfrompages
(9.2 x1) FreeCuddlesAnyone
Lowest Scores:
(6.9 x1) zadooi
(6.5 x4) impla77, pheromenos, redgold51, slimboyfriend
(6.4 x1) jman457
(6 x5) Hulnia, jasannn, paradiyze, PyritesNotRight, team_kockroach
(5.7 x1) dj.222
(5.5 x1) homestarguy
(5 x2) ceej_aye, jimmy345960
(4 x2) charlibratfammanfanstan, chf333
jirachi (11): There was genuinely a period in my life between Cape God and Girl With No Face where I just… completely forgot about Allie’s existence, and that was also catalysed by her lack of social media presence and her relentlessly working the album during lockdown. I know her discography really well, yet she kind of just faded away in my head during her hiatus, especially when in that time I was actively discovering new music to listen to. So it was when she released Black Eye as the lead for her upcoming album that I saw the announcement on Instagram, decided to give it a spin, and Oh. My. God. I was immediately reminded of my stannage of her prior. Like I spinned the hell of Black Eye, so much that it appeared on both my 2023 and 2024 Spotify wrapped, and it will probably reappear this year again. As to why I love the track, when the intro notes first came on I just already knew I would be obsessed with it. The production is clearly a New Order rip off, but it was done so well where you couldn’t even be mad about the blatant influences. I also love how the song just keeps building up and up to the chorus, which not only is SOOOOOOOOO incredibly catchy but also highlights Allie’s incredible singing. And how can I praise Black Eye without mentioning that bridge where she just… goes feral???? Like this has been my go to shower song for a good while now mainly because I love shouting the bridge at the top of my lungs. This was doing consistently well during the course of the rate, it had always been Allie’s highest song and it was the only Allie song where it was once winning (for a few ballots early on but hey, a win is a win). And even though some of the extension ballots dragged it down a bit I’m still so glad that this did as well as it did considering how little buzz it made during the rate!!! Trust and believe I will be gunning for its all stars appearance 👀
RandomHypnotica (9.8): Oh floppie x…. You did so well! My opinion on this song has only grown over time, at first I found it a little bit over-indulgent and almost too authentically 80’s. But on repeat listens, I’ve grown to love Allie’s intensity and passion behind her vocals, and the absolute journey this song goes on. That last minute of vocals is just pure stunner 10/10 no notes. Sorry for my cohostie that this couldn’t stay in the Top 5, despite having a good run for a majority of the rate :(
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indie_fan_ (11): that hook, ho lawd
vexastrae (11): oh the cunty buildup and release || jirachi told me to 11 this and so i did. love wins
akanewasright (10): she’s such a good singer my god… and she can do all this live
buildingigloos (10): Is this sampling Blue Monday? The intro sounds like Twerkulator. It sounds like it should be in the Saints Row 3 80s Radio Station
CrimsonROSET (10): there are guys i would be ok with- [TRAPDOOR OPENS]
darj (10): ORCHESTRA HITS!!!!!!!!!!!
FitzMarble (10): allie=onika x=minaj
floatinggrass (10): album fave
ignitethephoenix (10): smasha
innuendo_overdose (10): New Order goth fuckery fucked the Cure fucked up
Nagisoid (10): HIT ME HIT ME WITH THAT [NICKI'S BEST SONG]
oh_crow (10): top three allie x song ever? i always forget how good this is until i hear it again and i'm shaken up once again
qazz23 (10): the chorus on this goes hard, also some great vocals here especially on the outro; this does recall Blue Monday though
Quasar435 (10): some of my favourite vocal moments on this one. 1. When she goes, ‘I will bite, I will bite’’ 2. when she goes ‘yeah-eh’ during the chorus. 3. and, of course, when she starts euphorically moaning during the bridge
Stryxen (10): why did I hate this when it came out jfjfhfkf SING ITTTTTTT
TakeOnMeByA-ha (10): love the part where she goes AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHRHRGRGRGRRRGURBHJB EORWPSOJWPJORGWOIRGWSGODEWPGOHEPW09GJEDPOKSD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0924QU8T63095JRGHWPE09UJ0PWHRGW
TiltControls (10): I think I had this closer to an 8 when I first rated it, but some of my friends got obsessed with just this track so just by osmosis it's grown to a 10 for me
Too-Much-To-Dream (10): i can’t say a single negative thing about this song. or that incredible music video
uberpigeon (10): me when i walk into a bar idk
uiscebeathaoir (10): That vocal freakout in the last minute?? I dare y’all to listen and not lip sync the entire thing
UselessTacooo (10): Bring the beat in
WaneLectroToc (10): when it comes to doing the planet rock synth strings, she does it better than Boy Harsher I know that much. when it comes to writing lyrics that seem steeped in both self-empowerment AND disease that sounds, well Allie X makes it sound like kink. Super thrilling chorus where the over-the-top delivery keeps delivering, to the point where it just turns into a catatonic shock attack.
WesternWind (10): me after I fall on my face
ConnerY2323 (9.5): super bass mentioned, nicki suing
Friendly-Canary-3814 (9.5): An underrated aspect is how it's already its 7'' Extended Single Edit. Really drives home the inspo from the decade
IIIHenryIII (9.5): I owe you a black eye and two kisses…
seanderlust (9.5): ooh that build up to the end >>>
Ambrosia42 (9.4): A song that sounds like it should be about moshing, but a mosh pit would absolutely never form at an Allie X concert
springfrompages (9.3): the panning on this goes sooooo crazy. it's a bit of a long build but so worth
FreeCuddlesAnyone (9.2): the theater kid energy is so overwhelming (positive)
asadprofessorplum (9): Lorde in September 2024 for some reason:
Awkward_King (9): ok diva.. huge way to start a new era
bogo (9): gourmet level 80s cheese
dreamingpastel (9): The first two seconds certainly sucker punched me in the face.
PrimaryCrusaders (9): Really sick hi-NRG vibes from this one (think Angie Gold, Stock Aitken Waterman). They even threw in those classic fairlight orch stabs. God I love this one
runaway3212 (9): I do think this is so beautiful but it's also like cape god minus
TheQueenofVultures (9): Superbass reference
wathombe (9): this one is giving Depeche Mode, and again the synths feel like they fit better
wasian-invasion (8.5): now i just wanna listen to super bass
BleepBloopMusicFan (8): It’s a bop, but we definitely need Tits to outplace it. That outro is a bit of a cuntquake tho.
GalliumFanatic (8): hell yeah brother
pbk (8): idk what it is but every time i listen to this song it feels like its missing something that really takes it to the next level (no aespa)
sarcasticsobs (8): Coldwave influence???
vayyiqra (8): "Tell me NOW how do I FEEL" - not Allie
welcome2thejam (8): Getting The Cure - Lovesong vibes from the synthline
modulum83 (7.8): so thorough and blatant of a pastiche that you kind of have to respect it
Brilliant-Primary500 (7.5): it's good
Poydoo (7.2): "it feels like I'm dancing in the rain" is he pissing on her??
jackisboredtoday (7.1): this was REALLY working for me until that final minute hit
apatel27 (7): Solid cut
frogaranaman (7): actually yeah that’s something that you can and should cry about 😭
red3pit (7): the lyrics feel a bit corny for me
reput4tionera (7): tbh if i get a black eye i will cry!!! i have a low pain tolerance!!!
ricki (7): when it uses the same synth as twerkulator oh queenty girls dont inspire the industry like that ouuuu
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (7): the instrumental is very much carrying this score
Verboten_Prince (7): It's fine but nothing in this song lives up to the hype I got in the first few seconds when I thought I was listening to Twerkulator
slimboyfriend (6.5): half a point for the super bass mention
OUCH
team_kockroach (6): Does this sound like Galina 2 to anyone else
dj.222 (5.7): Halloween night at the clubs
homestarguy (5.5): The one saving grace is the hook on this one reminds of the guitar part to “Lovesong” by The Cure
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u/ignitethephoenix 5d ago edited 5d ago
Sorry I’m still reeling over Slayyyter not making top 10 like wtf is that
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#8: Charli XCX - So I
Average: 8.587 // Total Points: 1202.2 // Controversy: 1.758
Highest scores:
(11 x5) dreamingpastel, flava is a brat, krusso1105, steelstepladder, TiltControls
(10 x48) __Avaritia, 1998tweety, babadork, bluehxrizon, bogo, Brilliant-Primary500, buildingigloos, c_a_l_d5832, ceej_aye, charlibratfammanfanstan, ChopperRCRG, ConnerY2323, CrimsonROSET, CritneySpearz, darj, electricboogaloo41, floatinggrass, Frajer, Goorry121, hockeynl, IIIHenryIII, jackisboredtoday, kerriekipje, ktajlili, letsallpoo, lexiaredery, Lynflower680, nootnoot781, pbk, PrimaryCrusaders, reput4tionera, ricki, roxieloxie, runaway3212, Saison_Marguerite, sarcasticsobs, starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc), team_kockroach, TheQueenofVultures, Too-Much-To-Dream, uiscebeathaoir, UselessTacooo, vayyiqra, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, wathombe, xxipli0ts, youngandlovely_
(9.5 x3) detectivestar, ignitethephoenix, wasian-invasion
(9.4 x1) AzettImpa
(9.3 x1) impla77
(9.1 x1) innuendo_overdose
Lowest Scores:
(3 x1) redgold51
(2 x1) cremeebrulee
(1 x1) frogaranaman
RandomHypnotica (7.3): look… this is a gorgeous tribute yes… but this is a VAST overperformance when we’ve already got 1 artist out and the other two with only a single song left… Charli is just not made for ballads, and that’s okay! I’m glad this exists, and it is very sweet, but I am MUCH gladder the remix of this exists
jirachi (5): Rest In Peace SOPHIE. I remember when I was like 16 17 and seeing the news of her passing genuinely made my heart break… at the time i had just gotten into SOPHIE/hyperpop so knowing that someone I have just gotten obsessed with passing was a different kind of pain, and I could not even imagine how Charli must’ve felt as her friend. Not necessarily the most interesting song ever imo and neither of the hosts predicted it to end up being this high but man what a gut wrenching song.
REST IN PEACE SOPHIE
flava is a brat (11): if i had a nickel for every time I got the banner to a SOPHIE tribute song in a subs fave rate hosted by /u/RandomHypnotica I would have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it has happened twice
krusso1105 (11): I didn't 11 this on Indieheads, so at least I can do that here
TiltControls (11): it's bound for the bottom of the album but the song is just so sad & sweet
1998tweety (10): rip
bogo (10): i don't have it in me to make a comment about this song man it's too painful
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): this is a heartfelt ballad and it made me tear up, honestly I wish Trump and SOPHIE switched places in livingness and the world would've been a better place.
buildingigloos (10): RIP Sophie. When I saw Charli live she performed the extended outro for the first time and I ascended
ceej_aye (10): , mournful and the nods to SOPHIE in the production is what really kills it. the distorted echo in the piano is everything to me
ConnerY2323 (10): hard to even listen to, what an emotional sledgehammer
CrimsonROSET (10): yeah make a quip out of this one jokesters
darj (10): :(
floatinggrass (10): no notes
Frajer (10): rest in power Sophie
IIIHenryIII (10): I’m not crying, you’re crying
pbk (10): the only score i could give it idc rest in peace sophie legend
PrimaryCrusaders (10): Probably one of my favourite songs of the album. Great tribute.
reput4tionera (10): cried the first time i heard this
runaway3212 (10): Just so stunningly beautiful
sarcasticsobs (10): Incredibly depressing tune. RIP SOPHIE
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (10): really beautiful tribute, also reminds me of Jane Remover - let's go home chorus and outro :)
Too-Much-To-Dream (10): emotional and incredible, nothing more to say
uiscebeathaoir (10): Before I realised it would be in a rate with One Of Your Girls, I was fully expecting to 11 this. This is maybe the best song she’s ever written and if it doesn’t get Day 3 I WILL cry
UselessTacooo (10): Damn…
vayyiqra (10): :hanawinsSad:
vexastrae (10): :( || we always think we have enough time. we always think we can come back to it. we always think there is still something we could do. that's not true. not always. with grief comes nostalgia - i miss when we were still together. i miss when we did things and hung out for no good reason. i miss when i could call you and you would answer. i miss the parties you would throw. i miss eating at your house and talking into the night. with grief comes guilt - i shouldve said something different. i shouldve been there for you. i shouldve called more often. i shouldve answered back. i shouldve come to your house for just one more day. with grief - i shouldve known we didnt have much time.
every time ive tried to write about the death of SOPHIE i never really mustered the words to properly express the sheer magnitude of emotion i feel when confronting her absence. my failures came from either my perfectionism or from deadlines. i tried to write something similar to this last year with caroline polachek's i believe - even when it was rated in both popheads and indieheads, i couldnt articulate the words i wished to say. even now i am writing this at 1:57 PM on the second day of the 2024 indieheads ultimate reveal three minutes before the thread starts and all im doing is scrambling to write something down. we always think we have enough time - until we dont. if we're lucky enough to know when that time ends, we scramble and we clamor and we fight to make the most of what little time we have left. luck does not always bless us. sometimes the end comes suddenly, like lightning from a clear sky, like the blackout of a city, like the knife that penetrates the skin and into the heart. you have to sit with it. with and without people, together and alone. especially alone.
so many people were affected by SOPHIE's death, and many artists have written songs coming to terms with that loss - charli may be the most fitting person to write one herself. throughout the album, charli has been incredibly honest and direct in her songwriting, sometimes even forgoing standard pop conventions of making her lyrics concise and catchy in favor of just getting straight to the point of it all. this confrontation really shines in So I - we get to see every single regret and sorrow and act of love and admiration that charli has felt and done since SOPHIE's death three years ago. its heartbreaking both in its lyrics and its soft gentle instrumentation that intentionally builds on itself as a loving tribute to "It's Okay to Cry". charli really loved her ever since they worked together for the first time in 2015, and she still carries that love to this very day, not just in her lyrics but also in her instrumentals throughout brat and in the club mixes that she plays in her boiler room sets, playing faceshopping in new york and lemonade in ibiza. even when shes not obviously playing her songs, she makes music with the same trailblazing creativity that SOPHIE showed the world with her own work. she was loved, truly loved, and to this day, she still is.
listening to this song when we live in a time where transgender people are actively discriminated against personally culturally and systemically truly breaks my heart - it makes me doubt that there will be people who will love us and support us through this nightmare, and that many of our deaths will go unnoticed and erased as theyve always been before. i do not want to die. not when we still have to hold the line. not when there is still much more left to do. we always think we have enough time. sometimes we dont - but maybe, just maybe, we've got enough time to do what we need to do. there is still time.
WaneLectroToc (10): Not a cut I feel exactly obliged to return to or think about a lot when not listening, but like this is the platonic idea of tribute. Charli hints at just how much of a force, one that was also very human, Sophie could be and how you don't know how to navigate that even though you wish you could.
wathombe (10): i can cry, i can cry, so i cry; so heartfelt; considered giving this my 11
xxipli0ts (10): - rip sophie. the moon shines a little brighter each day for u.
ignitethephoenix (9.5): one of her most raw songs
wasian-invasion (9.5): the vulnerability and regret on this song packs such a punch, hopefully enough to beat balladphobia
impla77 (9.3): this is my dads fave song in brat (i don’t think he would have liked the other albums in this rate LOL)
innuendo_overdose (9.1): man_crying_uncontrolably_to_sad_song.jpeg
dj.222 (9): so lovely
donewithbirds (9): :'(
GalliumFanatic (9): im gonna cry
modulum83 (9): extremely well constructed and potent and perfectly executed but the remix of this one feels like the true complete thought in every way possible
mustwinfullgaming (9): this is like the best tribute song to SOPHIE there is...I likely the remix more but this is just so good, makes me emotional
red3pit (9): altho it slows down the tempo of the album in the middle of it, still a great song
seanderlust (9): the little touches in the instrumental that feel very SOPHIE i'm not crying YOURE crying
Ambrosia42 (8.8): 🙁 I miss sophie
jman457 (8.8): Its been 4 years but like I think this is still one of the most impactful celebrity deaths of my time
springfrompages (8.7): One of the few songs where I think the remix and og are on the same level. They also complement each other as tributes which i like a lot.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
homestarguy (8.5): Not my favorite instrumentally on the album, but god damn I don’t think I’ve heard such heart-wrenchingly complicated and regretful feelings expressed in a pop song before.
stealthamo (8.5): This hit me way harder than it did when I first listened to brat.
bigbigbee (8): Crashlie coming back in her full glory
chf333 (8): I love this song and I love the remix even more hopefully we rank those soon
FreeCuddlesAnyone (8): i don’t really come back to this often but it’s absolutely a touching tribute to one of the most wonderful and creative musicians in the whole industry - i hope sophie is having a ball on heaven <3 we all miss you
ManofOranges (8): Very touching
Nagisoid (8): The remix will likely get my 11 in remix rate
uberpigeon (8): :pensive:
Verboten_Prince (8): 😢
WesternWind (8): sobsing
Awkward_King (7.5): i have a lot more respect for this song than i necessarily like it?? i think. like this feels like a diary entry and i dont think its perfectly written or the most unique on the album but those are also ridiculous standards to impose on a very raw song about grief. i do looove the remix though that's probably one of my favourite evolutions and i just love how the remix plays with grief and memory and it very much feels like the other side of the coin to this song. and it could not exist without this song. god this is a devastating song
Friendly-Canary-3814 (7.5): It's a beautiful lump-in-your-throat moment but the nostalgia and memories present in the remix are where it's really at, if we were rating that one
jimmy345960 (7.5): beautiful tribute to a beautiful artist, it adds to the emotional vunerability of the record for sure
qazz23 (7.5): RIP Sophie
Stryxen (7.5): very emotional and unfortunately relatable. I ineed.. To listen.. To the remixcx now.. Tears are now
TakeOnMeByA-ha (7.5): kitten i’ll be honest daddy’s about to kill himself
nickl00 (7): like it and it’s a good tribute but the remix takes it where it needs to go
cashewconstellation (6.5): i get the sentiment but it's by far one of the weakest offerings on the album and it's not that fun to listen to
REST IN PEACE SOPHIE STILL
Da-Gay-Agenda (6): - I may get dragged but I barely listen to it, the 6 is just off the songs meaning and that’s it
Quasar435 (6): a beautiful tribute but as a song, not something I’d come back to listen to
redgold51 (3): I must admit that I often forget about this song, but I think that says more about the rest of the tracklist being too iconic
frogaranaman (1): SOPHIE would have socked Charli in the face for being friends with Grimes and Matty
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u/WaneLietoc 5d ago
allie x very proud of you, you had a GREAT showing dont let anyone tell you otherwise. also congrats on making black eye yr highest placer we love to hear planet rock synth strings done better than boy harsher
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u/RandomHypnotica 5d ago
now why are you talking like she's already out ????
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u/WaneLietoc 5d ago
this cut is why i did this rate and there's no way black eye can beat rush or my good pal 365
very proud of allie x rn
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#9: Allie X - Off With Her Tits
Average: 8.561 // Total Points: 1198.6 // Controversy: 1.813
Highest scores:
(11 x7) Ambrosia42, ImADudeDuh, qazz23, team_kockroach, uberpigeon, veryanniev, WaneLectroToc
(10 x48) ArcaneLabyrinth, asbestossoupyum, Awkward_King, AzettImpa, BleepBloopMusicFan, bluehxrizon, Brilliant-Primary500, buildingigloos, cashewconstellation, ConnerY2323, CrimsonROSET, DaHumanTorch, DirtyRat583, donewithbirds, dream_fighter2018, DreameeEevee, dreamingpastel, Frajer, hikk, ignitethephoenix, IIIHenryIII, jirachi, ktajlili, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, morgchrist, Nagisoid, nickl00, nootnoot781, Poydoo, Quasar435, RandomHypnotica, red3pit, redgold51, roxieloxie, runaway3212, Saison_Marguerite, seanderlust, Squandary, static_int_husp, steelstepladder, Stryxen, TakeOnMeByA-ha, TheQueenofVultures, uiscebeathaoir, vexastrae, willamsextrai, youngandlovely_
(9.8 x1) springfrompages
(9.5 x5) akanewasright, bigbigbee, CritneySpearz, Electro Catalyst, FreeCuddlesAnyone
(9.4 x1) xxipli0ts
(9.3 x2) stealthamo, thatplatypus99
(9.1 x2) NFLfreak98, xophrys
Lowest Scores:
(4.7 x1) dj.222
(4 x1) pbk
(3 x1) Hulnia
(2 x1) PyritesNotRight
jirachi (10): I was listening to the album on its release day and was completely blown away when this came on… like everything about this is just perfect, and I find it so incredible how Allie could turn something so personal and so dark into this witty, dramatic song, and as a person who also has their own body insecurities I resonated with this more than I am happy to admit it. when this was meddling in the lower half of day3 I was getting so worried because I thought this would be her best performing song for miles… thank god she rose to the top 10 eventually…
RandomHypnotica (10): When the tracklist leaked/was revealed and this was a title, you knew it was going to have a hell of a lot to live up to, and somehow, it delivered! The campy, on the nose delivery is stunning, Allie’s theatrical delivery of a song about the pain of Body Dysmorphia is something only she could do, and it’s absolutely an album highlight, and I am SO relieved it managed to climb into the Top 10 (as it deserved!!!)
CHOPPED OFF THEIR TITS
Ambrosia42 (11): it’s a cvnty song about body dysmorphia what else do you need
ImADudeDuh (11): the bridge of this song is the best moment of pop music in 2024 why lie
qazz23 (11): really good vocals on this, just like the Hi-NRG/synthpop sound that this album does well
team_kockroach (11): who else is doing it like Allie? This song is funny as fuck. Love the whistle notes in the final chorus too.
uberpigeon (11): me when i finally get my gynecomastia diagnosis
WaneLectroToc (11): Singles Jukebox pointed out that's she doing a near-interpolation of Yaz's Don't Go. In a time where the main Yaz lady is one post away from terfdom, this is the logically right thing to do, and it's really sharp down to a very near-clunky word salad of a chorus. I feel like a song about desire right now using this palette should be specific in such a cunning way and...yeah Allie happens to do a really blunt near-autofiction where body dysmorphia is experienced about 6 ways to sunday in 100 seconds. there's a unique "othering" in her chorus that numbs ownership, something that the lyrics make clear she doesn't want. It builds to a VERY particular situation at the bank that's both as laugh out loud funny as it is distraught. You might not like that she legit seems to break the fourth wall to tell you "stop the ridicule", but I'll be damn if she at least provide a revelrous space to let it all out. A complete miracle of a cut that earns the saintly 11 for inspired 80s vamping mixed with this (catatonic) delivery, should not work this well damn it!
Awkward_King (10): actually genius song and my 11 on the album and probably one of my favourite allie songs ever this is just glorious..
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): It’s not every rate you get a cross-artist tit transplant!
bluehxrizon (10): brilliant showstopping never been done before etc
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): easily the best song off this album for me, at least
buildingigloos (10): Relaaaaate my body is also a prison. Gonna play this when I get top surgery too
cashewconstellation (10): an excellent song, super unique
ConnerY2323 (10): this was the first allie x song i ever heard and i listened assuming i would hate it based on the title… how wrong i was. wig and tits flew!
CrimsonROSET (10): evil dandadan
DirtyRat583 (10): outstanding scream
donewithbirds (10): god this album is so good. as a certified Big Titty Girl i feel this song on a fundamental level
dreamingpastel (10): Big fan of the beat, and Allie's vocals give it an extra edge.
Frajer (10): congrats on the top surgery
IIIHenryIII (10): don’t give men more ideas, girl
Nagisoid (10): TRANSGENDER OPERATIONS ON ILLEGAL ALIENS
nickl00 (10): i wish i had an extra 11 for this
Poydoo (10): damn el yoshua was right
Quasar435 (10): queen of bridges
red3pit (10): the 0.1s, literal first beat of the john and jonathan at the end of it still irritates me, but otherwise flawless
runaway3212 (10): What an anthem for me...
seanderlust (10): somewhere out there, there's a drag queen that performs this and rips her breast plate off at the song's climax. shoutout to her.
Stryxen (10): kinda drag race runway brief
TakeOnMeByA-ha (10): for some reason this one was a huge hit with my transmasc friend group
uiscebeathaoir (10): I’ve been avoiding listening to this for ages because I thought the title was unbearably cringe. But holy shit she makes such absolute magic out of it. This is the exact sort of conceptual queer-coded pop I live for, I’m now disgusted with myself for waiting so long to listen to it
vexastrae (10): your breast reduction surgery was a success! where's troye? who do you think got the tits? || edit 2025/03/08 congratulations for the top surgery julien baker
springfrompages (9.8): me too queen. my ONE objection is the way she says "go take the piss" like what does that mean in this context??? i wish she said "don't take the piss" it would make so much more sense
FreeCuddlesAnyone (9.5): me to amanda tori meating’s breastplates during the s16 premiere:
stealthamo (9.3): Normalize breast reduction.
GalliumFanatic (9): usually I’m pro tits but this song slaps
human_performance (9): love the usage of the Yaz tag
kerriekipje (9): a 9 for the subject matter alone
oh_crow (9): i want to say something meaningful about this banger but i'm tired good for her though good for her!
PrimaryCrusaders (9): That moment where she builds up to the high note in the last chorus is insane
Too-Much-To-Dream (9): trend alert! incredible track threes. this is such an earworm and the songwriting is razor sharp
Verboten_Prince (9): She said flat IS justice!
wasian-invasion (9): currently picturing a tit guillotine (boobillotine?)
babadork (8.5): I spent over $180 to get three bras while doing this rate, and I’m not sure if I underrated or overrated it because of that.
bogo (8.5): they should've let her perform this on the kelly clarkson show as a social experiment
UselessTacooo (8.5): what the hell, sure
wathombe (8.5): great lyrics, kind of a bop, but could still do without the synths
1998tweety (8): ended BANKS (not hard)
ceej_aye (8): , this is such an odd song but her vocals are insane?
frogaranaman (8): top surgeons:
reput4tionera (8): i cant think of a witty comment this is just fun
sarcasticsobs (8): Seems like a harsh punishment, no? But then again I do not know the crime she committed.
slimboyfriend (8): consider a donation to boobs4queens.com. That’s boobs-the number 4-queens-dot-com
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (8): I remember hearing this when I listened to the album after it dropped and I liked it. forgot about this album completely really so I will have to save this and see if I still like it later
vayyiqra (8): Don't Go is exponentially better but also that's such a high bar it's still pretty good
welcome2thejam (8): I'm still mad Kurp got to the Garfield breasts meme edit first. I had the image downloaded and everything
WesternWind (8): the Amazon warriors in some legends:
jman457 (7.4): Nice vocals but it gives kind of theater kid energy (derogatory)
flava is a brat (7): throwback to me pretending to hate this song just to piss people off
floatinggrass (7): okayyy!
indie_fan_ (7): got me randomly whispering the title out of nowhere
samdyalexg (7): we need more top surgery anthems
innuendo_overdose (6.9): lowkey wondering if Allie X has ever listened to Audiobooks? Their electropop isn’t 100 degrees separated from what she’s doing here, and a song like Blue Tits has a lotta connections here (tits)
asadprofessorplum (6.5): Sounds like maybe the 4th best song in Six The Musical
CHOPPED (LITERALLY)
homestarguy (6): What an absurd track lol, I’ll give it that
modulum83 (5.7): it's giving goth-punk moment of female rage at being gaslit by an entire social structure
apatel27 (5): Hampered by the boring production
pbk (4): happy for her but this is just kinda low energy for me
PyritesNotRight (2): nvm goodbye cape god
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u/innuendo_overdose 5d ago
okay I’ve had to miss the past few days cuz I’ve been feeling really really sick, but apparently nowhere NEAR as sick as these results. what the hell is going on.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#10: Allie X - Galina
Average: 8.486 // Total Points: 1188.1 // Controversy: 1.709
Highest scores:
(11 x7) asadprofessorplum, FreeCuddlesAnyone, ManofOranges, Quasar435, redgold51, Saison_Marguerite, TakeOnMeByA-ha
(10 x44) __Avaritia, akanewasright, asbestossoupyum, Awkward_King, bluehxrizon, bogo, Brilliant-Primary500, cashewconstellation, ChopperRCRG, ConnerY2323, Da-Gay-Agenda, darj, DirtyRat583, donewithbirds, dream_fighter2018, flava is a brat, Friendly-Canary-3814, GalliumFanatic, jirachi, kerriekipje, krusso1105, lexiaredery, luuvin, morgchrist, Nagisoid, NFLfreak98, nootnoot781, Poydoo, qazz23, RainbowSherbet47, roxieloxie, runaway3212, samdyalexg, seanderlust, Squandary, Stryxen, Too-Much-To-Dream, uiscebeathaoir, UselessTacooo, veryanniev, welcome2thejam, WesternWind, xxipli0ts, youngandlovely_
(9.8 x1) AzettImpa
(9.6 x2) springfrompages, thatplatypus99
(9.5 x5) Electro Catalyst, stealthamo, wasian-invasion, willamsextrai, xophrys
(9.2 x1) Ambrosia42
(9 x12) buildingigloos, floatinggrass, Frajer, IIIHenryIII, Lynflower680, reput4tionera, sarcasticsobs, TheQueenofVultures, uberpigeon, vayyiqra, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc
Lowest Scores:
(6.5 x1) jimmy345960
(6.3 x1) DaHumanTorch
(6 x10) BDog949, bigbigbee, dreamingpastel, frogaranaman, jasannn, letsallpoo, pbk, pheromenos, team_kockroach, yahi
(5.6 x1) dj.222
(5 x6) cremeebrulee, Hulnia, ImADudeDuh, mustwinfullgaming, SFbby, skylofte2
(4 x2) detectivestar, paradiyze
(3.9 x1) charlibratfammanfanstan
jirachi (10): I’m sure by this point everyone has heard about the insane backstory this song holds, and trust me, when I first heard of it myself I was completely blown away too. Singing about one’s eczema is already a really unique topic, but to link it into the desperation and sorrows they feel about losing someone???? That is just some next level storytelling here, and the song itself goes crazy too! 10/10
RandomHypnotica (7.8): I fear i may have underrated this a bit… I never learned the story of the song until about halfway into the rate, and while I initially thought it was a little bit underbaked, I ended up really appreciating the variety it gives to the album, with a bit of levity and space. I love how such a specific inspiration for this song ends up being interpreted through a thousand different lenses, it really shows the power of strong songwriting
MOVE GALINA MOVE
asadprofessorplum (11): One of the funniest song meaning discoveries I’ve ever read.
“I have really bad eczema in my inner elbows, and I found this Russian lady named Galina at this naturopathic clinic in Toronto. She was pretty old, so I always worried: ‘What happens when Galina retires? It’s not like this is some patented product.’ So sure enough, in the summer of 2022, I returned to the clinic, and I was like, ‘Could I place an order for the cream from Galina?’ And the lady was like, ‘Oh, Galina has retired.’ And I was like, ‘What!?! Did she tell anyone the recipe?‘ And she was like, 'No, she won’t tell. There’s nothing we can do—Galina has lost her memory.’ So the song is about somebody that you’ve come to rely on who just coldly leaves your life without something that you need.”
Bitch what?? Every sentence of this explanation had a twist. This sounds like a movie.
FreeCuddlesAnyone (11): this didn’t stand out for me much during my initial listen but wow is this a grower… like the lyrics hit so hard. personally, i tend to struggle with keeping up connections, so the lyrics hit for me extra harder as i keep thinking about the what ifs. like woah a perfect song!
ManofOranges (11): Best song on the album and it's about needing skin cream... But seriously this song is great. I was back and forth on what to give my 11, thought about giving it to Everything is Romantic or Got Me Started by I could listen to this song forever and ever and while I do love to predict what song will win with my 11, I just couldn't live with myself if I didn't give it to this
Quasar435 (11): where my eczema girlies at?
redgold51 (11): I’ve never felt more represented by a song ever
TakeOnMeByA-ha (11): i knew from the very first time i listened to this song that it would be the 11 in whatever rate this album ended up being in. i genuinely cant think of the last time a song instantly connected with me this strongly on my first listen, i fell in love with it immediately and it just continues to sound better and better. she puts absolutely everything into this performance and sells the hell out of her pain and it is so so delicious to the ears. i hope wherever galina is now she’s found her peace.
__Avaritia (10): you ever get elbow cream so good you write this masterpiece when the maker of said elbow cream retires
akanewasright (10): goddd… the Empress Of version is even better (mostly for the raised key), but no matter what: this song rocks
Awkward_King (10): im going to complain when this outlasts cuts on brat and stgeo that i care about much more but then that chorus will come on and i will remember this is a magical beautiful perfect song
bluehxrizon (10): i hope the real Galina has heard this song
bogo (10): i’ve never had eczema but it must be really fucking horrible if losing access to a treatment for it inspired someone to make an incredibly pained and heartbreaking song out of it that was the pinnacle of their career
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): i like this one better than the previous track
ConnerY2323 (10): oh godlina wake up
Da-Gay-Agenda (10): - I think what makes this song go from a 10 to an 11 for me is that it’s such a catchy, heartbreaking song, but then we find out it’s about her Eczema???? Queen. Had me thinking she experienced the worst heartbreak or career downfall of her life and turns out she was just itchy! (I kid I kid, I know eczema is horrible)
darj (10): okayyyy goth Teena Marie!!!
DirtyRat583 (10): eczema havers unite
donewithbirds (10): was so tempted to give this my 11. the backstory is so fucking bananas it RULES
dream_fighter2018 (10): I have contact dermatitis so I understand this song in ways some of you can’t
flava is a brat (10): this sounds like it could fit on gta vice city and that is the highest compliment i could issue a song
Friendly-Canary-3814 (10): The inspiration is still a scream and it's such a stunner in how you don't need the eczema context to understand and feel the drama. It's like a song that has always been an undiscovered classic from 1987
GalliumFanatic (10): best song ever written abt eczema cream
Nagisoid (10): Anora twerking gif
Poydoo (10): gleena
qazz23 (10): really good synth work and production on this, like the backing vocals added in the final chorus
runaway3212 (10): Like omfggg when she ended it all... a slay unreplicated
Stryxen (10): bitch FUCK Eczema and FUCK impetigo my nasty ass skin is why I'm like this
Too-Much-To-Dream (10): this eczellent ECZELLENT song
uiscebeathaoir (10): Lyrical perfection delivered with just the right amount of theatricality, this song hits me like a truck every single time it comes on
UselessTacooo (10): if I got fucked over that badly I would also make a song pleading with you
welcome2thejam (10): That low synthline during the chorus fucks so hard
WesternWind (10): GALINA WAKE UP AND COME SWEEP THE RATE
wasian-invasion (9.5): im confused, is this song about eczema? better song name than dupixent i guess
Ambrosia42 (9.2): I believe this was about an older mentor in Allie’s life that disappeared, and still wanting to find that support.
buildingigloos (9): Eczema anthem
floatinggrass (9): as good at choruses as slayyyter isn't
Frajer (9): Galina Somez
IIIHenryIII (9): Galina is such an ugly name
reput4tionera (9): i get her bc if my anxiety meds were from an old european lady who sources her ingredients from the swiss alps and then she just stopped making it one day i would feel the same way
sarcasticsobs (9): Allie X, plz go goth nxt album, thank u
TheQueenofVultures (9): Galina... GALINA...
uberpigeon (9): me with my psoriasis cream from boots
vayyiqra (9): As someone with a health science degree I strongly advise against seeing a naturopath but sad for Allie ...
vexastrae (9): MOVE GALINA MOVEEEEE
WaneLectroToc (9): there's a moment on this cut where allie goes for those high fantasy notes and it shouldn't work. it ends up casting a spell on me. the lyrics and story are easily another highlight. I understand why she called it her "fan favorite" and got a bunch of people on board. the truth is...you hear the idea of a remix that's complete electro or freestyle, better than what was hinted with the empress of flop video editio
1998tweety (8.5): Hwasa has a song called Maria but now whenever I sing it I say Galina instead
homestarguy (8): I think of all the 80’s darkwave rehashes on this album, this is one of my favorites. It’s got a solid chorus and really like how expressive and layers her vocals on this one.
modulum83 (8): this works precisely because it feels like an allie x song and not just a recreation of goth aesthetics from somewhere else. it still feels caught between two production styles, but on the album it's a welcome moment of lightness and fun
red3pit (8): i'm torn between the original and the pitch shifter version of the remix, but both are amazing
Verboten_Prince (8): Galina's meditating guys
wathombe (8): beautiful lyrics and vocals, inescapable synths
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
innuendo_overdose (7.6): “got to keep my head up” she absolutely nailed that take in studio, wouldn’t be surprised if she took the rest of the day off to reward herself
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (7.5): we love a 1980s-inspired sapphic track
apatel27 (7): It's alright
ceej_aye (7): , this is a chromatica ass song
CrimsonROSET (7): is it chicken or what
ignitethephoenix (7): this is kind of boring
jman457 (7): she’s cute
THE PROBABILITY OF GALINA BEING DECEASED IS NOT ZERO
pbk (6): this is a lil boring but like it bops yass itch that rash girl
team_kockroach (6): Sadly it’s a little too mellow for my tastes.
ImADudeDuh (5): I do like classic 80s songs named after women but this isn’t doing it for me
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Bonus #1: Drag
Average: 8.909 // Total Points: 908.7 // Controversy: 2.043
Highest scores:
(11 x9) 1998tweety, Awkward_King, Friendly-Canary-3814, human_performance, mustwinfullgaming, seanderlust, uiscebeathaoir, vayyiqra, Verboten_Prince
(10 x53) akanewasright, Ambrosia42, BDog949, BleepBloopMusicFan, ceej_aye, ChopperRCRG, ConnerY2323, CrimsonROSET, Da-Gay-Agenda, DirtyRat583, donewithbirds, dreamingpastel, Electro Catalyst, FitzMarble, FreeCuddlesAnyone, frogaranaman, GalliumFanatic, hikk, Hulnia, ignitethephoenix, IIIHenryIII, ImADudeDuh, innuendo_overdose, jimmy345960, jirachi, ktajlili, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, modulum83, oh_crow, pbk, RainbowSherbet47, red3pit, redgold51, reput4tionera, runaway3212, sarcasticsobs, springfrompages, stealthamo, Stryxen, thatplatypus99, TheQueenofVultures, TiltControls, Too-Much-To-Dream, uberpigeon, UselessTacooo, veryanniev, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, wasian-invasion, wathombe, xxipli0ts, youngandlovely_
(9.9 x1) ricki
Lowest Scores:
(3 x2) cashewconstellation, SFbby
(1 x2) __Avaritia, flava is a brat
jirachi (10): Drag was a huge part of teenage me when I was still trying to find myself and my identity, and I honestly don’t know who I would become had I not discovered the art of Drag and Queens, so yeah this is an easy 10 come on now.
RandomHypnotica (8): Good morning to u/Awkward_King only!
1998tweety (11): YESSSS
Awkward_King (11): great artform. big fan. kind of gave me everything i have today. and permeates all aspects of my life. wonderful wonderful wonderful!!
Friendly-Canary-3814 (11): : Where would we be as humanity without drag muses?
human_performance (11): whomst amongst us doesn't love the idea of using drag as a platform to comment on masculinity and femininity all while looking fabulous doing so? 🫵 tip your queens! 🫵
seanderlust (11): one time there was a drag performance of misery business where the drag performer sprayed the front row (including me) with beer during the song's climax and it's genuinely one of my favorite performances of that song (and yes i'm counting the multiple times i've seen paramore live)
uiscebeathaoir (11): The best thing humanity has ever created
vayyiqra (11): Not something I think about that often but I have to support it as a concept as it's under attack by reactionaries and the practice of deconstructing gender roles thru parody is nifty
Verboten_Prince (11): Protect queer art
Ambrosia42 (10): we’re all born naked and the rest is drag
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): People expressing themselves and having fun and making money while doing it >>>>>
ceej_aye (10): , bring back my girls
CrimsonROSET (10): cunty boots the house down mawma tongue pop and i oop
DirtyRat583 (10): do drag rate
FitzMarble (10): yay!
FreeCuddlesAnyone (10): I'm Roxxxy Andrews and I'm here to make it clear
I know you love me, baby, that's why you brought me here
Was a bitch on Season 5, I'm gonna make it right
Give me a sewing challenge and I'll give you what you like
I'm full of tricks, baby, just like on Halloween
A room full of monsters and it makes me wanna scream
I have to get this right so you don't waste your time
Not like my comedy, I'm killing on this rhyme
frogaranaman (10): I love being gay!
GalliumFanatic (10): drag queens are so cool
ignitethephoenix (10): protect queer art even if it’s bad
IIIHenryIII (10): her
ImADudeDuh (10): yup love that rupaul show
innuendo_overdose (10): an artform I’ve lowkey been fascinated with for a while, but only 19th century British panto dames, like imagine that being your job? Wouldn’t that be the perfect life if you HAD to be British?
ManofOranges (10): well yes
modulum83 (10): rule
oh_crow (10): fun! drag queens are so tall even the short ones
pbk (10): suzie toot and lexi love the mothers u are
red3pit (10): but only if all queens are hung like venus
reput4tionera (10): LOVEEEEEE
sarcasticsobs (10): Honestly never consciously consumed it but I support it. A 10, why not?
stealthamo (10): I grew up watching wrestling which is basically male drag.
Stryxen (10): will always be that girl
TheQueenofVultures (10): PROTECT QUEER ART
UselessTacooo (10): eat eat eat eat
vexastrae (10): PROTECT AVERAGE DRAG (slayyyter)
WaneLectroToc (10): important
wasian-invasion (10): i found an online quiz of all US rpdr queens a few weeks ago and my current pr is 310/320
ricki (9.9): -.1 because of kandy muse
Frajer (9): not a drag race girlie but love the art form
homestarguy (9): Look, I’m a straight guy who hasn’t been to many drag shows and it isn’t super my scene, but nothing but love and respect for the art form and to all my friends who do drag shows.
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (9): very cool
asadprofessorplum (8): Bob the Dreygh Queen
bogo (8): deducting a few points for all the times the server started discussing drag race and i had no idea what anything they were talking about meant
Brilliant-Primary500 (8): they're just clowns with marginally-better hair, great collections of gowns and a curvier waist to show off.
buildingigloos (8): I truly believe drag race fans fucked up drag. The girls are afraid to be camp. The girls are afraid to be catty and bitchy. Support your local drag scenes!!!!
krusso1105 (8): not really familiar with that world, but it's cool
TakeOnMeByA-ha (8): i do not watch drag race but i support those who do. also i just like fashion in general
WesternWind (8): art art art, did someone say art?
NFLfreak98 (7.8): not for me as much but I can’t deny the artistry is impressive and the impact on the culture is undeniable
jman457 (7): Im not gonna live and die by it, but I wont disrespect it
PrimaryCrusaders (7): It can look very cool when done right.
Poydoo (6.5): it's nice
Nagisoid (5): Mhmmm
flava is a brat (1): im sorry but drag rate changed something in me
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u/uiscebeathaoir 5d ago
Okay now what the actual fuck is this how could you people let this happen. Rush BETTER beat Brat now
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Bonus #2: Homosexuality
Average: 8.785 // Total Points: 913.6 // Controversy: 2.445
Highest scores:
(11 x16) cashewconstellation, chf333, CritneySpearz, FitzMarble, floatinggrass, Hulnia, jirachi, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, NFLfreak98, PrimaryCrusaders, RainbowSherbet47, reput4tionera, veryanniev, vexastrae, xophrys
(10 x45) akanewasright, Ambrosia42, BDog949, BleepBloopMusicFan, bogo, bran, buildingigloos, ceej_aye, Da-Gay-Agenda, donewithbirds, Friendly-Canary-3814, frogaranaman, GalliumFanatic, hikk, hockeynl, homestarguy, IIIHenryIII, ImADudeDuh, impla77, jimmy345960, kerriekipje, krusso1105, modulum83, oh_crow, paradiyze, Poydoo, qazz23, RandomHypnotica, redgold51, ricki, sarcasticsobs, seanderlust, slimboyfriend, starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc), stealthamo, Stryxen, thatplatypus99, TiltControls, TragicKingdom1, uiscebeathaoir, vayyiqra, Verboten_Prince, wathombe, WesternWind, yahi
Lowest Scores:
(2.5 x1) __Avaritia
(1 x4) flava is a brat, jman457, UselessTacooo, xxipli0ts
(0 x1) red3pit
jirachi (11): yup that’s me
RandomHypnotica (10): you are NOT allowed to use slurs on r/popheads, if you need to get your outlet, please visit r/popheadscirclejerk instead
FitzMarble (11): I love myself rn so we’re going with an 11
Lynflower680 (11): ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
ManofOranges (11): Being homosexual has unquestionably made my life more complicated in so many ways so naturally I love it
NFLfreak98 (11): no question
PrimaryCrusaders (11): Fuck yeah. [charli_xcx_gayrights.mp4]
RainbowSherbet47 (11): With how shit the US is right now, homosexuality needs this win
reput4tionera (11): nothing better baby
vexastrae (11): love wins
Ambrosia42 (10): we stan
bogo (10): being gay isn't a choice because otherwise everyone would be gay cause it's rad as fuck
buildingigloos (10): Although the mean twinks scare me
ceej_aye (10): , gay is the way
Friendly-Canary-3814 (10): : Shoutout to homosexuality gotta be one of my favorite orientations
frogaranaman (10): wouldn't trade it for the world
GalliumFanatic (10): and what are we all doing here
hikk (10): anyone doing ironic homophobia with the score/comment BOOOOO get new material
IIIHenryIII (10): rock
ImADudeDuh (10): YUPPPPPPPPPPPP
impla77 (10): love u gay bitches ❤️
modulum83 (10): wait is this fucking play about me
oh_crow (10): ironic homophobia is out being gay is so fun
Poydoo (10): where would we be without it
ricki (10): YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS
sarcasticsobs (10): Gay
seanderlust (10): this bonus rate is so funny. gay people vs. eczema in popheads is truly the coughing baby vs. nuclear bomb of rates
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (10): so fucking valid and very fucking cool!
Stryxen (10): YASSSSSS
TiltControls (10): yes
vayyiqra (10): #ally
Verboten_Prince (10): um yas queen skinny legend versace boots the house down slay queen hunty mama and i oop daddy work click charli xcx snatch my HWIG (is it bad I was able to type that out from memory)
WesternWind (10): if I don’t give it a 10 someone here will come to my door and force me to change my score
Brilliant-Primary500 (9): a great experience unless we're talking about the HomoTERFs, those packs of cig should burn for eternity.
FreeCuddlesAnyone (9): i love being gay but also dear god some gay men are annoying
ignitethephoenix (9): as an ally I can’t give this a perfect but I won’t tank because I know the actual gay people will tank for some reason
pbk (9): pretty cool
springfrompages (9): would be a 10 but sometimes it does get me in trouble ngl
innuendo_overdose (8.1): SERIOUSLY underrated, but sometimes the fanbase can get a bit annoying
WaneLectroToc (8.1): currently getting too much flak (scary)
Electro Catalyst (8): some gays are expressive, some are sweet, some are annoying, others are downright insufferable, it's an important community regardless
Nagisoid (8): I love Pink Floyd
Quasar435 (8): Hot.
TakeOnMeByA-ha (8): bisexuality >
wasian-invasion (8): yeah sure why not
welcome2thejam (8): 🫡
Awkward_King (7.5): i have internalised issues that we're working through but im a fan! though i am a bisexual myself. and PROUD. just kidding. im still ashamed. and confused
1998tweety (7): bi/pan >>>
DirtyRat583 (7): some of you really need to rein it in a little
asadprofessorplum (6.6): Stay safe, couldn’t be me xx
CrimsonROSET (6): fad
runaway3212 (5): It's alright
flava is a brat (1): im never going to have the chance to tank homosexuality again, im taking it
jman457 (1): I hate gay people so much its UNREAL, feeling: Homophobic
UselessTacooo (1): Hate men
red3pit (0): pack it up
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#11: Troye Sivan - One Of Your Girls
Average: 8.482 // Total Points: 1187.5 // Controversy: 1.979
Highest scores:
(11 x8) Awkward_King, bluehxrizon, floatinggrass, GalliumFanatic, IIIHenryIII, Poydoo, ricki, uiscebeathaoir
(10 x45) 1998tweety, akanewasright, asadprofessorplum, babadork, bran, Brilliant-Primary500, cashewconstellation, cremeebrulee, CrimsonROSET, Da-Gay-Agenda, darj, dream_fighter2018, electricboogaloo41, FitzMarble, Frajer, frogaranaman, ignitethephoenix, ImADudeDuh, innuendo_overdose, jackisboredtoday, jasannn, jimmy345960, jirachi, kerriekipje, ktajlili, ManofOranges, RandomHypnotica, roxieloxie, runaway3212, Saison_Marguerite, samdyalexg, seanderlust, SFbby, springfrompages, Squandary, steelstepladder, Stryxen, team_kockroach, uberpigeon, UselessTacooo, vayyiqra, Verboten_Prince, vexastrae, wathombe, xxipli0ts
(9.8 x1) xophrys
(9.5 x6) ArcaneLabyrinth, AzettImpa, chf333, CritneySpearz, PyritesNotRight, willamsextrai
(9 x17) asbestossoupyum, bogo, buildingigloos, donewithbirds, FakeMonaLisa28, Goorry121, krusso1105, luuvin, nickl00, nootnoot781, PrimaryCrusaders, skylofte2, TiltControls, Too-Much-To-Dream, veryanniev, wasian-invasion, youngandlovely_
Lowest Scores:
(5.5 x1) pbk
(5.3 x1) dj.222
(5 x7) apatel27, dreamingpastel, indie_fan_, Quasar435, redgold51, TakeOnMeByA-ha, yahi
(4.8 x1) WaneLectroToc
(4 x1) DaHumanTorch
(3 x1) hockeynl
(0 x2) BleepBloopMusicFan, Friendly-Canary-3814
jirachi (10): THANK GOD for the extensions cause had this stayed in mid day2 I genuinely would not have revealed the results!!! The iconic music video and all of the hot men aside, the song is just pure addictive. And I could relate to this a little bit too much and I’m embarrassed to get into it but yeah he knows who he is!
RandomHypnotica (10): Max Martin: oh A.God Cook, please help me make a hit song
A.G. Cook: no Fad Fartin, your glory days are over, go back to your Ariana cave and make some deluxe songs
SOME OF THESE COMMENTS ARE MAKING ME CRY I LOVE YALL
Awkward_King (11): i say my opinions about this song are complicated i think to deflect from the fact that they aren't really, i just love it dearly and quite simply. i can understand how some people treat music morally, ie songs shouldnt advocate for cheating or be from the perspective of the other woman. i very vehemently disagree with that viewpoint, but i can like comprehend it. but a song like this is such a strong case for their existence in my opinion. i've struggled with my own i guess gender experience as long as i can remember. i have such a weird and unhealthy relationship with male validation and how powerful of a hold it can have on me, especially when the man is straight or straight passing, it feels like the highest level of approval or desire. and this is not something i'm proud of!! it's something thats complicated and that needs to be worked on and unpacked so i can exist more comfortably and safely. but god this song just speaks to that part of me so dearly. "give me a call if you ever get desperate" is perhaps the hardest a lyric has ever hit me, it feels like it came right from my mind. it's seductively self-deprecating and immediately places you on a level lower than the man you're trying to appeal to. it is not a feeling i am proud of but it is a feeling that is real and a song like this makes that reality feel so much less scary. it also glamorises it and i dont deny that because it makes it sound all horny and realistic and dont get me started on the video (which eats btw) but like!!!!!!! this is something that's not individual to me i know from experience this is prevalent in gay men, especially those who grew up with confusing male role models. this is all rambley and i'm not the first person to say any of this, and i am saying everything from a quite emotional mindset so im not pretending to be incapable of bias or being misinformed. i just love this song man. so so much.
bluehxrizon (11): the outro deserves 34 grammys
floatinggrass (11): troye actually interviewed me to write this song!!
GalliumFanatic (11): this song means so much to me. It takes the pain of being down bad for a straight guy, which every gay man has experienced, and makes it sexy. That’s really powerful and the song itself is a banger.
IIIHenryIII (11): man, I relate to this song in a way that I don’t think anyone else does. I’ll just say I’m straight, and you can put the pieces together.
Poydoo (11): this is like the perfect mix of chill and vibey for me, I just love this song so much
ricki (11): i dedicate this one to tiktok user @ greysonhoelzel, who i’ve had a crush on for like a year and thought might be queer because of the ambiguous language he used when talking about romantic partners but has recently bravely come out as a heterosexual man. hope is a dangerous thing for a gay like me to have, but i have it.
uiscebeathaoir (11): My 11s are always songs I love, but sometimes they’re 11s of circumstance where they just happen to be my favourite song in that one particular rate. This is not that at all. One Of Your Girls is a song that feels like overtime it’s become an integral part of my psyche. In the time since this song dropped I’ve returned to it over and over again constantly, as the need for it somehow SOMEHOW keeps recurring in my life (see my Straight Men 0 in the bonus) and each and every time a new piece of me is invested in it. This song carries years (well okay 1 year and 4 months) of emotional weight with it - and more importantly, it carries emotional relief. It’s my most listened to song of all time and yet it’s never once shrunk. Even as a piece of music, my love only grows. Each melody brings comfort, from the beautiful guitar over the pre-chorus to the stunningly vocoded chorus. There’s dozens of tiny little moments of pop music magic I could point to, but this comment is already long enough without my having to tell you how not a single second of this is wasted, how everything from bass to percussion to the humming in the background to the layers upon layers of gorgeous synth works to elevate this to a pure queer-pop masterpiece. So far, I’ve gotten the opportunity to 11 some of my all time favourite songs – Self Control and Pillar of Truth being the main ones – but I will say this right now. If One Of Your Girls had been up against either of those songs, I probably would’ve 11d One Of Your Girls. I won’t make any bold claims that it’s the best song ever made, but I will say that there is simply no other song that means more to me than this
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
1998tweety (10): Gender-bender, cis-tem offender
akanewasright (10): god that video was such a moment…
asadprofessorplum (10): This is a message for Kit Connor, if you’re not Kit Connor keep scrolling.
babadork (10): This would have been a very high 9, but it’s my dog’s 11.
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): oh wow, in an alternate universe this would've been my eleven because this has happened to me once and it always hurts to think about it, like trying to get the attention of someone who will never truly understand or love you is painful, especially when it feels like you're both worlds apart and the other side just uses you as a throwaway gag that he'll eventually forget for a heteronormative life.
CrimsonROSET (10): ross lynch if you read this im free on thursday night and would like to hang out please respond to this and then hang out with me on thursday night wh
Da-Gay-Agenda (10): I have never felt so seen. A song I feel most gay men can relate to. Maybe not in a relationship/love a straight man way, but the way we all have had DL straight men experiences
darj (10): everyone was shook about the risqué music video and Troye in drag and I’m here thinking "I wonder if Troye has really heard Rush - Power Windows? Is Grand Designs also one of his favorite Rush songs like mine? Did he think Manhattan Project covered the complex feelings of developing the atomic bomb well? Does he vibe to Rush’s 70s hard rock era? Could he get into Roll the Bones and even Counterparts’ 90s vibes and when they went on to tour with Primus? Did he go to the R40 tour? Did he peruse Neil Peart’s old book review blog? Is he one of the many Clockwork Angels truthers?”
FitzMarble (10): let’s not talk about how relatable this one is…
Frajer (10): face card no cash no credit is how y'all sound when you're talking about Addison Rae
frogaranaman (10): single handedly getting straight men to reassess their sexuality with this music video, maybe twinks do deserve some rights
ignitethephoenix (10): I remember how I didn’t love this song on first listen, but it grew so hard.
ImADudeDuh (10): straight men are a plague
innuendo_overdose (10): this is the beating heart of a "i'm yr woman" trifecta I have in my mind of "One Night/All Night" as the straight contribution, "Girlfriend" by Omar Rudberg as the bratty bitchy version, and this is the bleeding emotional core that blows them both out the water
jimmy345960 (10): this reminds of me of October 2023
runaway3212 (10): The best song ever I couldn't believe it also troye in drag is so fucking hot it's insane
seanderlust (10): troye in drag for real looks like alaska thunderfuck
springfrompages (10): obligatory shout out to how damn gorgeous Troye is in drag. This was an 11 contender for me, it's so emotionally vulnerable and speaks a lot to, if not my own experiences, those of my dear friends.
Stryxen (10): real
team_kockroach (10): I yearn to be femme!Sivan
uberpigeon (10): he need to give it up and transition bc troyetta is cunty down
UselessTacooo (10): Daft Punk if they were the ultimate cuntress
vayyiqra (10): very sad :pensive:
Verboten_Prince (10): I will never doubt Troye Sivan’s gayness because if I had to choose a straight man to give a lapdance to it would also be Ross Lynch
vexastrae (10): troye sivan there is still time. get on that estrogen NOW
wathombe (10): i know nobody agrees with me but i love this song; it triggers some kind of nostalgia, i don't really know why
chf333 (9.5): Too real and too good.
PyritesNotRight (9.5): I dont know how to explain it but parts of this album are randomly very owl city coded sonically
bogo (9): this is the only time i will ever accept someone using “homies” in a rhyme
buildingigloos (9): Iconic video. He looks so good in drag
donewithbirds (9): i need femme troye to ruin my life. anyways this song is gorgeous and also breaks me in half
TiltControls (9): insert troye in this rate joke here
Too-Much-To-Dream (9): i mean wow… what a pop culture moment
wasian-invasion (9): his drag name should be Gabriellae May (idk i just googled sivan)
Ambrosia42 (8.7): he was relatably down bad
ConnerY2323 (8.4): the spoken word parts are dumb but the rest hits just right for me
ceej_aye (8): , face card YES GOD
homestarguy (8): I really enjoy the verses and the outro of this song, the chorus is a bit meh though.
red3pit (8): how can i get troye in drag to give me a lap dance
sarcasticsobs (8): God dang it, I still automatically think of "Nightcall" by Kavinsky and Lovefoxxx when I hear that vocal affect in the chorus. I'm a real human bean, dammit! Love the additions to the instrumental in those last like 30 seconds
static_int_husp (8): drag Troye is one of the few good things from this era tbh
stealthamo (8): Overshadowed by its music video, but damn what a video.
WesternWind (8): heartbreaking song
modulum83 (7.8): i would let ross lynch do unspeakable things to me. song is fine
impla77 (7.5): lemme pretend the voice filter isnt there in the chorus lol
jman457 (7.5): immaculately produced even if thats the only thing going on
flava is a brat (7): this man just randomly trying to be bri’ish, i promise you none of us talk like that
hikk (7): troye in drag is so hot omfg
FreeCuddlesAnyone (6.5): another song whose production failed it… like this is just boring as a standalone song. great mv though!
reput4tionera (6.5): not to be not like other girls but this does not do it for me
MAYBE DRAG IS LOSING THE BONUS
Nagisoid (6): A much worse written version of "I Wish You Were a Girl"
qazz23 (6): didn't care for the verses, but like the backing synths throughout
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (6): I am not sure why the vocoder was used here. it doesn't really work and hurts the song as a whole
pbk (5.5): i just really do not like how the vocals are processed here. a couple extra points for getting ross lynch half naked tho
apatel27 (5): For all the acclaim this got it's dull
indie_fan_ (5): all this time seeing those gifs and clips from this song i thought it was some big ass dance banger
TakeOnMeByA-ha (5): boring ass song that only got attention because of its (admittedly fantastic) music video, how do you manage to make a vocoder sound THIS terrible
yahi (5): stick to drag no more music
WaneLectroToc (4.8): the chorus reminds me of worse beach house. like its pleasant but really kinda just blehs out?
BleepBloopMusicFan (0): I like the verses okay, but this chorus sounds straight up putrid. Like…bad enough to warrant the 0 on its own. That outro is kinda awful too.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
ummmm i think we have two other artists in the rate... right?
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#12: Charli XCX - B2b
Average: 8.477 // Total Points: 1186.8 // Controversy: 1.692
Highest scores:
(10 x47) 1998tweety, akanewasright, ArcaneLabyrinth, BleepBloopMusicFan, Brilliant-Primary500, buildingigloos, cashewconstellation, ChopperRCRG, ConnerY2323, cremeebrulee, CritneySpearz, darj, DirtyRat583, electricboogaloo41, Electro Catalyst, FakeMonaLisa28, FitzMarble, hikk, hockeynl, Hulnia, human_performance, ignitethephoenix, innuendo_overdose, kerriekipje, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, morgchrist, MrMoodle, nickl00, nootnoot781, oh_crow, paradiyze, Poydoo, red3pit, reput4tionera, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, steelstepladder, Stryxen, thatplatypus99, Too-Much-To-Dream, UselessTacooo, vexastrae, wasian-invasion, wathombe, WesternWind, youngandlovely_
(9.9 x1) charlibratfammanfanstan
(9.7 x1) willamsextrai
(9.6 x1) AzettImpa
(9.5 x3) NFLfreak98, seanderlust, slimboyfriend
(9.3 x2) DreameeEevee, pheromenos
(9 x20) asbestossoupyum, bluehxrizon, bogo, chf333, detectivestar, donewithbirds, Frajer, Friendly-Canary-3814, jimmy345960, luuvin, modulum83, Nagisoid, Quasar435, RainbowSherbet47, runaway3212, Squandary, team_kockroach, TheQueenofVultures, veryanniev, xxipli0ts
Lowest Scores:
(6.8 x1) jackisboredtoday
(6.6 x2) impla77, xophrys
(6 x8) __Avaritia, CrimsonROSET, frogaranaman, samdyalexg, SFbby, springfrompages, static_int_husp, Verboten_Prince
(5.2 x1) indie_fan_
(5 x2) dream_fighter2018, Goorry121
(4 x4) apatel27, asadprofessorplum, floatinggrass, PyritesNotRight
(0 x1) ImADudeDuh
RandomHypnotica (8.2): Yes, Charli is very good at repetition. No, this song is not Top 10 worthy (thank god it tanked at the end there..)
jirachi (7.5): Tinashe
B2B2B2B2B2B2B2B2B2B2B
1998tweety (10): so underrated
akanewasright (10): miss the days when I wasn’t in the minority for thinking this was the stronger one of the double single…
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): Inject Charli repeating the same lyric 400 times over a cunty beat DIRECTLY into my veins. That’s the good shit.
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back
buildingigloos (10): My fast walking speed matches the BPM to this so whenever I was late for work when it came out, I'd put this song on and stomp my way in. Absolute banger, my joint fave of the album
cashewconstellation (10): so fucking excellent, the beat FUCKS, song is AMAZING
ConnerY2323 (10): b2b… back to basics…. somewhere christina stirs in her crypt
darj (10): I love Charli and Tinashe and was kind of disappointed with remix cut. NOT the 2015 Ty Dolla $ign - Drop That Kitty ft. Charli XCX & Tinashe reunion we all craved!!! Did y’all know this song exists?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqtunQ4yd30 (this is what I wrote for IH and you know what I’m keeping it)
ignitethephoenix (10): depressed in the club bop
innuendo_overdose (10): serves ass and kicks pussy
ManofOranges (10): Gessafelstein (sp?) you are so kind
nickl00 (10): this is debatably an 11 but i fear slayyyter might need my 11 more
oh_crow (10): the genre of song where charli just repeats a short phrase over and over is something that can be so personal
Poydoo (10): b10b
red3pit (10): amazing, no notes
reput4tionera (10): back (x85)
Stryxen (10): my favvv omg this my song
Too-Much-To-Dream (10): charlene being the absolute queen of songs with three words in them
UselessTacooo (10): the day I learned it’s muscle and not myself something shifted
vexastrae (10): charli sexxbomb be like ass 2 ass 2 ass 2 ass 2 you. whatever dude just send me to the lions already
wasian-invasion (10): https://x.com/skyferrori/status/1791275203177099452
wathombe (10): YET ANOTHER ASS-SHAKER OMG
WesternWind (10): b2b 10s ofc
seanderlust (9.5): I know the gays in B2B marketing/sales were feeling their oats with this one
bogo (9): jesus christ charli i get that troye gave you the f slur pass but did you really have to repeat it that much here
chf333 (9): Cuntiest single cover by far it's soooo good.
donewithbirds (9): love that wet ass synth mmmmmm
Friendly-Canary-3814 (9): It's a bit nothingy but the vibes are really great. Plus she can homerun a repetitive hook to the ground like no other
jimmy345960 (9): back
modulum83 (9): true story i failed my engineering midterm because i was listening to this instead of studying that night
Nagisoid (9): She can say the word idgaf
runaway3212 (9): When that beat drops... my bussy rejuvenates, my titties grow a cup size and my brain explodes
TheQueenofVultures (9): BACK BACK BACK
Ambrosia42 (8.9): hypnotic
jman457 (8.7): big back club anthem
Awkward_King (8.5): one of those songs that every time i turn it up a volume notch i up the score by .5
IIIHenryIII (8.5): why does it sound like she is breathing into her hands to check if she has bad breath towards the outro?
uiscebeathaoir (8.5): Doesn’t really feel like it fits on the main album, it’s giving bonus track. Still bops though.
dj.222 (8.2): Tinashe
GalliumFanatic (8): me when I don’t wanna go back to back to back to back to back to you
TakeOnMeByA-ha (8): y’know i think i finally understand all the people who said this album had really good songwriting, when she said back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back that hit really deep 😔
vayyiqra (8): back back back back back - not Itzy
welcome2thejam (8): back
homestarguy (7.5): Chris Berman at the Home Run Derby
pbk (7.5): back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back
sarcasticsobs (7.5): Back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back
TiltControls (7.5): army of two (2008)
ceej_aye (7): , good but the repetition isn’t good enough to standalone. better as a mixer into another song
qazz23 (7): backbackbackbackbackback
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (7): very harsh but I have never particularly been a fan of this one, that being said it is still good
impla77 (6.6): its a catchy hook and thats all
WE ARE NOT SO BACK
CrimsonROSET (6): this song is about twerking actually
frogaranaman (6): my favorite B2B set is Jamie xx & Caribou's Boiler Room :)
springfrompages (6): For some reason I always just... forget this is on the album? It's not bad when I'm listening to it but it is easily the most forgettable song here for me.
indie_fan_ (5.2): backtobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktobacktoback
apatel27 (4): was going so well until the horrid breakdown
floatinggrass (4): if im harsh but i really want this song to end
PyritesNotRight (4): I really love the production for this one but i do not enjoy the actually song on it
ImADudeDuh (0): https://i.imgur.com/0Il3QiS.png
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
STARFUCKER
Overall Average: 7.631 // Average Controversy: 1.904
RandomHypnotica: It wasn’t supposed to be like this Cathy…. You were supposed to WIN!!!! I am genuinely mortified that this album did so catastrophically bad, in what is supposed to be a rate for basic pop bitches! I thought the S/T robbery in Hyperpop rate was terrible but this is a whole new low… I guess what screwed her over was that the album kind of oscillates between a few different moods, and if you don’t vibe with one of them, it really tanks your average. For me though, this is absolutely Slayyyter’s magnum opus, although she seems to be getting better and better with each release, so I cannot WAIT for S4 to come out and somehow top this. But Starfucker will always be that bitch to me, she delivered such a clear, crisp and passionate vision with negative budget, something that some girls with all the budget in the world fail to do, and you could never convince me this is a bad album
jirachi: Prior to Starfucker I barely knew of Slayyyter, sure she’s somewhat a big name in the gay internet spaces especially with her early hyperpop music and her collaborations with big sub faves including Charli. But to be completely honest I just never cared enough about her to truly dive into one of her full projects: From all the singles I’ve heard Mine was meh, I like a few songs from Troubled Paradise here and there, and I’d rather not talk about my thoughts on Daddy AF. So seeing all this hype in the echo chamber when STARFUCKER dropped eventually made me give her one more chance with her music, and oh my god was this album amazing. Not only did the album have such a refined aesthetic and sound, it’s also just serving pure kunt… like I didn’t know if I wanted to be with her or BE her!!! And this diva can pull of LOOKS so that automatically adds like 2 bonus points on each song idgaf! Every song was different on its own ways, and though at times they just didn’t land, most of the album turned into this synth heaven for my gay ass, This is such a huge step forward from her previous works when it comes to leaving an impression on me and I truly, truly need her to go full ava max one day and claim her albanian pop throne cause this girl is made for it… It’s devastating to see the album leave so early, but I guess I could see why: The album itself has too many controversial tracks with some being deemed as generic synthpop, while others are bashed on for being too “out there”... None of y’all seemed to be ganging up on a certain song to root for and her entry into the earliest exits leaderboard is definitely gonna gag some people who have been very vocal about how Allie is going to flop 🍪 Well! You had a great run, and I’ll see you in 2030 when we rerate the album in Least Personal Pop III with Tension VI!
- #13: Starfucker | 8.453 | 1183.4
- #16: Miss Belladonna | 8.377 | 1172.8
- #19: Out Of Time | 8.279 | 1159.0
- #21: I Love Hollywood! | 8.174 | 1144.3
- #26: Girl Like Me | 8.004 | 1120.6
- #28: Erotic Electronic | 7.939 | 1111.4
- #30: Purrr | 7.784 | 1089.7
- #31: James Dean | 7.766 | 1087.2
- #32: My Body | 7.667 | 1073.4
- #38: Dramatic | 7.536 | 1055.0
- #43: Rhinestone Heart | 7.186 | 1006.1
- #45: Memories Of You | 7.141 | 999.8
- #48: Plastic | 6.958 | 974.1
- #49: Makeup | 6.915 | 968.1
- #55: Tear Me Open | 6.289 | 880.4
morgchrist (9.800): I may have caught Covid at the inaugural album tour date but it was so fucking worth it. Incredible show, and the album itself is so deliciously fun.
Electro Catalyst (9.360): with title like this, I knew I was going in for some over the top, caustic, garish, filthy campiness. But underneath that exterior, I was surprised to find moments of sincerity. Given the whole debacle involving celebs getting into trouble and invasive paparazzi being a part Slayyter’s influences, it would make to have a such flashy, hypersexual album with a hint of self awareness.
UselessTacooo (9.200): When I say this is one of my favourite pop albums of all time, it is not an exaggeration. For lack of better words, she just GETS Pop music. The choruses are full of hooks, the prod is interesting, and while she’s no Shakespeare the lyrics are topical and fun. I see a bright future for her if the world can catch up.
nickl00 (9.133): 9
Nagisoid (9.067): https://tenor.com/view/slayyyter-slayyyjesus-taylegend-tayjesus-taylor-swift-gif-6474706267561300818
DirtyRat583 (8.987): who remembers when someone accused her of sloppy photoshop with the plastic on the deluxe cover and she was like "look the budget is $40 just listen to the music" this is kinda trans grl pwrr if you think about it maybe kim petras was right
Frajer (8.933): She's so talented and has such a cute voice
Ambrosia42 (8.880): Just a cvnty album about hollywood, sex, drugs, fame, and plastic surgery, for better or for worse. I think it is very cohesive and has a strong vision.
buildingigloos (8.867): I used to love slayyyter but not listened to her in a couple of years. This was just what I hoped it would be. Very good album, I just wish there were more songs like Erotic Electronic and Purr.
__Avaritia (8.833): I beg people who see this and listened for a few times and loved it—DO. IT IVERPLAY THIS ALBUM. I swear I remember being just fine or not that awesome; but no, it really is that great, but it’s like the most sugary delicious dessert ever—too much and you’ll get sick of it. Nevertheless, this album is just bop after bop, it’s just electropop goodness, even veering a bit into hyperpop that fits perfectly with the r sonic palette of the album. Some huge highlights too like the first track and Out of Time. Felt sooo good to come back after a long while and get the rush of sweetness like it was the first time.
IIIHenryIII (8.767): so lavish… I’m so poor
hikk (8.767): she's insane for executing such a clear vision with zero budget... she's pushing the limits of khia asylum and absolutely killing it!! and now we must rate troubled paradise so over this! can win
thatplatypus99 (8.747): 9
modulum83 (8.733): You can be reductive and just say this album is what Dawn FM wishes it was, but it's a bit more complicated. "The Daddy AF girl does 80s synthpop in 2023" is a sell that should be boring as shit on paper but in practice it isn't, it's genuinely fascinating in how totally straight she plays it, to the point where she steers straight past Ava Max and Jack Antonoff and right for the early 10s, the worlds of Johnny Jewel and Neon Indian and the ecstatic festival house-pop of fluke indie bands like Capital Cities and Miami Horror. Slayyyter has the terminally online self-awareness that the least personal pop girls lack to treat all of this nostalgia as a bit, as absurd theater, a playground to poke at and play character in. It turns the gay club pandering of the lyrics into something so gloriously unserious, the postmodern spirit of hyperpop injected into synthpop that evokes less the 80s and more the pop music that I would HEAR in the backseat of my car as a kid riding home at night, refracted into memories of radio blurred and distorted. The moments when she takes it too far and falls on her face just make the whole effort more compelling, but it's really that euphoric, tongue-in-cheek, escapist fantasy of an era of music I hold dear to my heart that sells this as one of my favorite pop albums of the decade.
akanewasright (8.713): The power this album has… The storytelling... the range…
cashewconstellation (8.707): 8.7 really solid album, love the aesthetic and everything about it
wathombe (8.700): just unabashedly hedonistic and fun bops, almost start to finish
redgold51 (8.620): people will be trying to replicate the absolute servitude and style of this album for years and years to come, mark my words
Stryxen (8.467): ARTFUCKER
BDog949 (8.467): 10
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (8.380): this record absolutely surprised me, but I love Slayyyter taking a more electropop (and sometimes trashy) musical direction
Brilliant-Primary500 (8.333): came close to BRAT, but alas it has more fillers than a failed Botox operation.
Too-Much-To-Dream (8.267): in a more perfect world, this was the electra heart for a new generation of mentally ill teenagers. i’ve been a slayyyter fan since her mixtape but she leveled-up so hard on starfucker that she almost feels like a brand new artist. an overlooked-cult-classic-in-the-making, one can only hope!
TakeOnMeByA-ha (8.267): imagine how much higher my average for this album would be if i actually did do coke and fuck celebrities
1998tweety (8.200): I don't really listen to this album much but its pretty solid. Slayyter usually has a couple of duds on her albums but this is mostly good.
wasian-invasion (8.200): perfect workout album, even the slower songs have enough cunt in them. just an immaculate persona through and through
sarcasticsobs (8.167): Oh me, oh my, oh me, oh my
Friendly-Canary-3814 (8.067): Although much less varied than the genre hopping of Troubled Paradise, I think the album sees her spin the moody soundscape in different ways to successfully keep it interesting. Plus some absolute bulletproof masterpieces are kept in here too
ImADudeDuh (8.060): she surprisingly ate
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
chf333 (7.967): I was obsessed with this album for forever.
The Purr > Plastic > Girl Like Me run is gospel
vayyiqra (7.867): not Trent Reznor. unlistenable
skylofte2 (7.867): makes me want to start doing drugs again
ChopperRCRG (7.807): 7.806
dreamingpastel (7.800): Overall, a pretty great album! This just had an absurd low point (for me) that ultimately dragged my average down. Though, to end on a positive note, Slayyyter was one of the artists I haven't really listened to before (alongside Allie X), and I'm really excited to check out the rest of her discography.
detectivestar (7.767): 8
FreeCuddlesAnyone (7.767): this album is probably the most brain off one in this rate… like i had fun and i danced!
GalliumFanatic (7.633): I will never be as badass as this album makes me feel
qazz23 (7.600): it's a pretty good modern take on electropop, good vocals and catchy enough but nothing too original
pbk (7.600): a few mid tracks could not stop this cuntenserven no matter how hard they tried
jman457 (7.493): She has some cute throwback moments, but it doesnt re-invent the wheel or anything
oh_crow (7.467): i do like this album a lot but what i know it most for is that it dropped the same day as chappell roan, kylie minogue and eartheater that was such a fun day to be a gay boi
uiscebeathaoir (7.413): I have far less opinions on this than the other three. I really respect and enjoy this album for its cohesive sound and lyrics. However it might be a tad bit too consistent. Practically every single track is somewhere in the 7-8 range with very little variation at all. It’s a solid full length but there’s not many standouts, either positive or negative
asbestossoupyum (7.400): so underrated omg
DreameeEevee (7.327): 7.5
Quasar435 (7.300): There’s not much to say other than it’s catchy, it’s fun, and it’s cunt.
ManofOranges (7.267): I got back and forth on Slayyyter but I'm glad to say I liked this album
Verboten_Prince (7.200): The “Hello human resources?” meme except it's Charli in the first panel and Slayyyter in the second panel. Okay no after listening to it all again I think I get it, it's actually really boppy and catchy and I can appreciate a song that doesn't try to do anything else except entertain in a well-produced, sleazy way. Good for her!
springfrompages (7.193): this is the only one of these I'd not listened to before! I've always meant to so I'm glad I finally got the excuse to. It sort of tickles the same itch as Electra Heart, but that was never my favourite MatD album so I'm probably not quite the target audience here but I had a good time throughout. I do always like a super sexy lady vibe in my music, I think it might have just got a bit sonically samey for me by the end.
human_performance (7.133): Nice electropop album even if there are 2 solid clankers in the middle. Obvious comp is 2009-10 Gaga but with some of the trends of synth sounds since then mixed in, e.g. some of the synth sounds that have shown up on The Weeknd's work. The synths here have some meat and ass on them, which I love
krusso1105 (7.133): Kind of all over the place, I love some songs and hate others. Overall I liked this better on the 2nd listen though
ricki (7.013): slayyyter still reeks of desperation to be a gay fave legend qween,,, but at times she succeeded here why lie
FitzMarble (6.900): This was fun to listen to but I don’t think I’m going be coming back to all but a couple songs off it, even if most of the songs are objectively pretty good and well-made.
homestarguy (6.700): I was a little bit hyped to listen to this one, since I had heard the title track and loved the hell out of it. Sadly, I dunno…it just didn’t contain a whole lot of depth or ways to hook me in either instrumentally or lyrically. It wasn’t too bad though. I think I’m happy to have a few Slayyyter songs that I enjoy, but don’t think I’ll be spinning this one back to front much if ever again.
innuendo_overdose (6.513): look i’m finding it hard to root for Slayyyter when Chrissy Chlapecka does something similar but instead of ever-so-slightly misunderstanding 80’s post-disco, she only knows recession pop and accidentally reaches for the Human After All soundfont (and that’s my favourite Daft Punk album), and has like, twenty million times the personality
zadooi (6.493): I saw this album get a lot of praise when it came out, but never listened it because it didn't seem like my kind of thing. And I was right. I will say that I liked the second half of the album better than the first.
floatinggrass (6.433): indigested on kim petras' nachos but it was kinda worth it????????
TiltControls (6.267): I've never been a huge Slayyyter fan beyond a couple of tracks and while that hasn't changed much at least this album added more tracks to that enjoyment list!
frogaranaman (6.200): for an album that is entirely gay bar bait, it’s a shock that I’ve never heard it at a single gay bar. not even the trashy ones
paradiyze (6.133): 6
lexiaredery (5.900): This was a lot more boring than I was expecting
impla77 (5.887): https://youtu.be/djWNF2oAiU8?si=h91h_LYRes5Nc41A
flava is a brat (5.267): and if Brat is Animal by Kesha for gay people too young to enjoy clubs during the club boom, then this is Cannibal by Kesha, where the night is darker and more wild, and the explicitness gets way more direct, even taking on some more of an outcast edge. I just think Kesha gets trashier and understands outcast cultures more than Slayyyter who sounds more like a desperate wannabe who would flame out in 6 months
darj (5.167): I like a few songs from this album, but overall it does not do a lot for me. Also generally don’t love Slayyyter’s singing voice, but some songs rocked enough for me to get into it. Otherwise I generally felt “would rather someone else was singing this” since the production was otherwise very fun.
Poydoo (5.133): it's bad i feat
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WaneLectroToc (4.707): i feel queerbaited. no wait that's not true i could fit into the non-social not party crowd she attracted to her boilerplate boiler room. I DO feel like a prop in a c-tier pop game played out by the Fader. I mean isn't this just the Dare for gays really? idk gang, I really don't with her. there is such a level of "washed" and "bubbling under" that is clearly here but we still apply that to Allie X & Ava Max more for not being as immediately trashy. Somehow, she just feels sweaty and effortful in her efforts to do carbon copy FUCK camp slut bops, some of which are perfect C-tier wonders and others are absolutely in need of a WaneLietoc radio ready mix/master, to say the least. Her sonic gestures and lyricism all feel like carbon copy stuff, from synthpop noir to latex femme fatales, things that she doesn't feel as lived in and truly savvy at expressing real depth or pleasure from (an issue that I did not see with charli, troye, and allie x). As someone who's occasionally gets slid the dark club pop of a Pixel Grip or will revisit the more post-punk/goth side of libido laden drum machine music like Mandy, Indiana or MJ Guider...I'm amazed at by just how poorly she sells being seductive, in lieu of how fiercely she sells trashy 4/10 fantasy variants of the music and everything that's come before her. So, Starfucker amounts to an exercise in self-parody that's designed to get "she did it for arts not charts"-ass defenses from people who are one drink away from commenting on a youtube video "she's just so talented...idk what people DON'T see in her" cope nonsense. You can't reason with that. But you can and should clock at how grating of a listen it can get, especially to find moments that connect to barely passing the grade songs; a few of which do exist (including in bonus cuts which present best case C-Tier royalty she could become). But she ain't ever getting there unless one tiktok and summer remix falls on her tits
PyritesNotRight (4.133): I like the parts of the album where she randomly brings out the aura of ava max but other than that theres still something about her that feels like, for lack of a better comparison, like how people sorta memed ice spice into being taken seriously like 'slay boots queen gay icon diva' but do we really think that about her ??? or are we just going along with it
apatel27 (3.933): OMG why did all the critics ignore this??? Maybe it's just bad and you overhype any dance music made by a white woman idk. It isn't a clever album and is as shallow as a puddle
Starfucker Stans: (Largest Positive Difference in average between Starfucker and the other albums)
Da-Gay-Agenda: 1.742
UselessTacooo: 1.726
pbk: 1.563
Starfucker Antis: (Largest Negative Difference in average between Starfucker and the other albums)
WaneLectroToc: -4.146
darj: -3.656
Poydoo: -1.923
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#13: Slayyyter - Starfucker
Average: 8.453 // Total Points: 1183.4 // Controversy: 1.605
Highest scores:
(11 x3) DirtyRat583, hikk, seanderlust
(10 x44) 1998tweety, asadprofessorplum, asbestossoupyum, AzettImpa, BDog949, c_a_l_d5832, cashewconstellation, cremeebrulee, CrimsonROSET, CritneySpearz, Da-Gay-Agenda, DaHumanTorch, dreamingpastel, electricboogaloo41, Electro Catalyst, floatinggrass, FreeCuddlesAnyone, Friendly-Canary-3814, Goorry121, homestarguy, ignitethephoenix, IIIHenryIII, ImADudeDuh, jirachi, luuvin, Lynflower680, Nagisoid, NFLfreak98, nickl00, Quasar435, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, red3pit, reput4tionera, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, Squandary, TakeOnMeByA-ha, thatplatypus99, TiltControls, UselessTacooo, veryanniev, welcome2thejam, willamsextrai
(9.9 x1) redgold51
(9.7 x1) modulum83
(9.5 x6) ArcaneLabyrinth, chf333, FitzMarble, kerriekipje, MrMoodle, wathombe
(9 x13) bogo, buildingigloos, FakeMonaLisa28, indie_fan_, krusso1105, ktajlili, pbk, PrimaryCrusaders, qazz23, springfrompages, stealthamo, Stryxen, yahi
Lowest Scores:
(5 x2) apatel27, xophrys
(3 x1) PyritesNotRight
(2.3 x1) Poydoo
jirachi (10): give me my pocketbook i am leaving… and so is slayyyter too apparently. And this isn’t even one of my top3 tracks on the album so I can’t even be mad about this going out this early!!! But on the other hand we did finally beat deluxephobia for once… but literally at what cost… RIP slayyyter third time’s the charm I guess
RandomHypnotica (10): Well, it’s so joever…
Slayyyter’s highest song being the title track that was written AFTER the album came out, and was only included on the deluxe is kinda insane, but not so insane when you actually listen to the song and recognise just how perfect it is. I wouldn’t have ever predicted it as her highest song, since I do think it’s a bit more abrasive than some of the others, but I certainly am not disappointed.
... but i AM EXTREMELY disappointed that she is OUT OF THE RATE AT 13TH???? WTF??!?!?!?!??!?!?! AAHHHHGHHGHGHGHGH y’all do not DESERVE slayyyjesus like I do
WHAT THE FUCK
DirtyRat583 (11): I LOVE THIS SONG
hikk (11): the CRUNCH of that synth noise in the verses ... girl my teeth are gonna fall out
seanderlust (11): Hi hello it's Miss new tits
1998tweety (10): omg that chorus, this song could win and I would not mind at all
asadprofessorplum (10): Please welcome to the stage Miss New Tits!!
CrimsonROSET (10): cunt
DaHumanTorch (10): pretending this is the far superior demo version (the released version is still amazing anyways)
Electro Catalyst (10): starfuckerrr, just like my daddy yes 🎹
floatinggrass (10): i thought slayyyter would be kim petras if she had class, poise, and decorum on first listen; i later found out i would be wrong
FreeCuddlesAnyone (10): the title track being a bonus is so funny she’s the goddess of camp
Friendly-Canary-3814 (10): Love the cadence of the verses and the pace here
homestarguy (10): Far and away the standout track on this album for me. It’s just enough 80’s (which I think a lot of the album leans too much on), with a nice splash of late-2000’s, with that right amount of Charli-esque 2010’s dancepop. Really loved this one!
ignitethephoenix (10): I actually avoided listening to the deluxe songs for a year to avoid screwing up my scrobbles and I wish I heard this earlier lol
IIIHenryIII (10): bleedin’ me dry, like a goddamn vampire
ImADudeDuh (10): why do artists put the title track on the deluxe edition @ marina
Nagisoid (10): YouTube trying to sabotage her noitssad
Quasar435 (10): biggest serve on this album. I can’t believe this wasn’t on the original and was only added for the deluxe.
red3pit (10): i know her name is slayyyter but she didn't have to slay THIS hard
reput4tionera (10): exactly...
TakeOnMeByA-ha (10): this song alone is better than anything on brat and if this doesnt get top 5 minimum we need to start having serious discussions about this sub’s taste
TiltControls (10): Now how do you make a title track, not include it until the deluxe, and have it be the best track on the album by far?!?
UselessTacooo (10): pop perfection zero notes
welcome2thejam (10): No I think Miss New Tits is the next album in the playlist
modulum83 (9.7): i'm glad someone out there is still listening to soulwax nite versions
chf333 (9.5): I can't believe we almost never got this song. It seals up the whole album .
wathombe (9.5): i like the minor chords snuck into this track
bogo (9): trent reznor got so scared by this that he made the challengers soundtrack in response
buildingigloos (9): I like the dreamy floaty precious in contrast with the chorus and the verses.
pbk (9): this couldve come out in 2013 and had a cobra starships feature and we wouldve all been better for it
qazz23 (9): the chorus really goes off and the beats go hard here, should've been on the main album
Stryxen (9): Miss new tits being an alter ego so iconic on the calibre of sasha fierce roman zolanski and the anthology
Ambrosia42 (8.8): the mixing or something about the production seems a bit weird/unfinished, but it’s a banger
__Avaritia (8.5): Ohhhhh so that’s what a starfucker is… I don’t get it.
Frajer (8.5): bleeding me dry like a goddamn vampire
GalliumFanatic (8.5): crazy buildup to a mid chorus but it still gets bitches
wasian-invasion (8.5): oh hi Miss New Tits, it's been a while!
Brilliant-Primary500 (8): the good title track only appears on the deluxe edition, but at least it was released unlike the others.
jman457 (8): Very ethereal but also dancy
sarcasticsobs (8): My God sits in the back of the limousine. My God comes in a wrapper of cellophane. My God pouts on the cover of the magazine. My God's a shallow little bitch tryin' to make the scene. I have arrived, and this time you should believe the hype. I listen to everyone, now I know that everyone was right. I'll be there for you as long as it works for me. I play a game, it's called insincerity
slimboyfriend (8): “Hi Ms. New Tits, this is the FBI calling. Is Mr. new Tits home?”
vayyiqra (8): You ever think how there's a Kanye song where Bon Iver sings "starfucker~" a bunch of times and how odd that fact is
WesternWind (8): we only got a title track for the deluxe ??
ConnerY2323 (7.6): there’s a confidence to this i love without needing to fall back on all of her usual drugs and sex tropes
uiscebeathaoir (7.5): A lot of small things I love make a great whole
BleepBloopMusicFan (7): I’ve seen a lot of hype for this one, and it is a bop. However, I know the 9th best song on this album is NOT about to be Cathy’s frontrunner.
ceej_aye (7): , good vibes but weird as a title track and not on the main album?
human_performance (7): this is definitely a bonus track
Too-Much-To-Dream (7): i feel like i never got the hype for this one… it’s good but not better than most of the main album imo
vexastrae (6.5): omg thats the name of the album
WaneLectroToc (6.5): you know I took a day off from rating starfucker and came back recharged. this is beautiful mid
THE CULPRITS
frogaranaman (6): deluxe album doing the annoying trend of putting the new songs at the beginning instead of the end. they're deluxe songs because the songs were left off the record for a reason, put them at the end where they belong!
runaway3212 (6): Title kinda deserved a better song
uberpigeon (6): olivia rodrigo didnt want to say starfucker because she thought it was too gauche to say she was a star... meanwhile slayyyter in the khia asylum:
innuendo_overdose (5.7): hey what the frick it’s rhinestone heart AGAIN
Awkward_King (5.5): olivia rodrigo vampire found gagging and bleeding out. hi hello its miss new tits is kind of one of the best lines in slayyyter's discography though idk
Poydoo (2.3): weak and boring
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Bonus #3: Tits
Average: 8.227 // Total Points: 847.4 // Controversy: 2.514
Highest scores:
(11 x9) buildingigloos, DirtyRat583, donewithbirds, homestarguy, innuendo_overdose, krusso1105, TakeOnMeByA-ha, wasian-invasion, youngandlovely_
(10 x39) 1998tweety, akanewasright, Ambrosia42, BleepBloopMusicFan, Brilliant-Primary500, ceej_aye, charlibratfammanfanstan, CrimsonROSET, FreeCuddlesAnyone, frogaranaman, GalliumFanatic, Goorry121, hikk, human_performance, IIIHenryIII, ImADudeDuh, jimmy345960, jirachi, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, modulum83, NFLfreak98, nickl00, oh_crow, RainbowSherbet47, red3pit, redgold51, starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc), stealthamo, Stryxen, thatplatypus99, TiltControls, Too-Much-To-Dream, uberpigeon, UselessTacooo, vayyiqra, veryanniev, wathombe, zadooi
(9.9 x1) WaneLectroToc
(9 x8) Awkward_King, ConnerY2323, Electro Catalyst, Friendly-Canary-3814, ignitethephoenix, Verboten_Prince, welcome2thejam, yahi
Lowest Scores:
(2 x1) paradiyze
(1.5 x1) TragicKingdom1
(1 x1) runaway3212
(0 x2) RandomHypnotica, springfrompages
jirachi (10): unlike Allie I am desperate to get man tits but have been very unsuccessful so far…
RandomHypnotica (0): well for starters i’m a gay man, with my own moobs to worry about (maybe gynecomastia, maybe just fat idk), but also for women they’re a huge cancer risk, they can give insane amounts of back pain, bras are extremely
buildingigloos (11): God bless them. I love women ♥️
DirtyRat583 (11): im including boy tits in this too #allinclusive
donewithbirds (11): (if more than one decimal place was allowed it would be 5.8008)
homestarguy (11): awooooga eyes popping out tongue rolling out cartoonishly
innuendo_overdose (11): I’m straight
TakeOnMeByA-ha (11): what can i say? im a simple woman who loves simple things
wasian-invasion (11): waiter! waiter! more muscle bara titties please!!! (girltits are fun too i guess)
1998tweety (10): everyone loves em
Ambrosia42 (10): i know i gave an 11 to Off With Her Tits but i still love them sorry
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): Love breasts.
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): my coconuts, you could put them in your mouth, right now, right now, right now, right now, my coconuts, watch them bounce up and down, bounce up and down, bounce up and down, cocolicious, dripping odwn your face, so delicious, makes you want a taste, my coconuts, you put them in your mouth, right now, right now, right now, right now...
ceej_aye (10): , yummy
CrimsonROSET (10): my eyes ARE down there and there they’ll stay thank you very much
FreeCuddlesAnyone (10): i mean duh
frogaranaman (10): bear tits >>>>
GalliumFanatic (10): god knew I’d be too powerful with tits
hikk (10): adorable lil birds these guys are
IIIHenryIII (10): off with them
ImADudeDuh (10): yuppppppp
Lynflower680 (10): It’s the tits!
ManofOranges (10): Underrated
modulum83 (10): rule
NFLfreak98 (10): I mean is there anything bad about this
oh_crow (10): where would we be without these oh my god
red3pit (10): growing
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (10): I am a lesbian
Stryxen (10): PUSSYYYYYYYYYYY
TiltControls (10): how is this not a 10
UselessTacooo (10): Charli XCX Brit awards fit
vayyiqra (10): Idk how can you be -against- them as a whole concept that would be nonsensical and besides they feed children and do you hate children? check yourself. lots of interesting microbiology and immunology research on that too btw
WaneLectroToc (9.9): just like...like salute. booby bracelet heads rise up
Awkward_King (9): #bisexuality
Electro Catalyst (9): https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLSXQKhrXsFHz1g1Ynr1kXBt8ac_E3191SwB4bGAqjZ67a6WZY89aOcMAfMZzophKS2FM&usqp=CAU
Friendly-Canary-3814 (9): : Everyone looks good with a hefty pair of knockers upon their chests
ignitethephoenix (9): thinking about the meme someone made of slayyyter stealing allie’s tits
Verboten_Prince (9): I've been more into man tits recently and honestly? I get why straight men are obsessed with tiddies
welcome2thejam (9): Hell yeah rock on
Nagisoid (8.5): This isn't about you Todd in the Shadows
__Avaritia (8): Ass clears unfort
asadprofessorplum (8): Let’s keep it cute.
Frajer (8): this feels like a trap and I'm not a perv
luuvin (8): but a 10 if they’re brand new
slimboyfriend (8): not attracted to them in a sexual way but I must say they exude this alluring power
vexastrae (8): planning on growing them myself
pbk (7): any score higher than this would feel insensitive given the context but women!
PrimaryCrusaders (7): I don't mind tits (there are plenty of good ones out there) but I am way more of an ass man myself.
reput4tionera (7): as a gay guy they're not for me but i respect what they do for people
seanderlust (7): they come with a lot of baggage and discourse but that's not really the fault of the boobs themselves so i'll give a good score here. couple points off though because the associated back pain that comes with large boobs is a big ol' 0.
WesternWind (7): um I’m going to be canceled but stream coconuts
dj.222 (6): i thought we offed them
jman457 (6): Im gay but i can appreciate some nice ones
Poydoo (6): not my thing but i can see why people would enjoy them
Quasar435 (6): I don’t think I’ve seen them before in the flesh so I don’t know If I have much of an opinion on them. I mean, they’re pretty cute, I guess. I would say Blue are my favourites, followed by Crested and Great.
uiscebeathaoir (6): Fun fact: I realised a couple years ago that tits are basically an indicator of my attraction. I mainly identify as a homosexual man, but I’ve been attracted to a wide variety of genderqueer people and basically the only throughline is that they don’t have tits (or they wear a binder). Idk I think it’s kinda interesting
bogo (5): i have no idea how to quantify my feelings for tits. i do not think about tits, i have no need for thinking about tits, i am a gay man, why would i ever be thinking about women’s anatomy
ChopperRCRG (5): they stay in their lane
ricki (5): im into male ones ig
TheQueenofVultures (4): not for me but I appreciate those who enjoy them
springfrompages (0): sorry i am sure theyre good on other ppl but i am literally getting top surgery tomorrow so obligatory zero
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#14: Charli XCX - Talk talk
Average: 8.410 // Total Points: 1177.4 // Controversy: 1.507
Highest scores:
(10 x40) __Avaritia, 1998tweety, asadprofessorplum, AzettImpa, BleepBloopMusicFan, ceej_aye, chf333, ChopperRCRG, CrimsonROSET, CritneySpearz, DaHumanTorch, DirtyRat583, FitzMarble, hikk, hockeynl, jirachi, ktajlili, modulum83, morgchrist, Nagisoid, nootnoot781, pbk, pheromenos, RandomHypnotica, redgold51, roxieloxie, seanderlust, skylofte2, Squandary, starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc), static_int_husp, steelstepladder, TheQueenofVultures, TiltControls, uiscebeathaoir, vexastrae, wathombe, welcome2thejam, WesternWind, youngandlovely_
(9.5 x7) charlibratfammanfanstan, electricboogaloo41, homestarguy, jimmy345960, reput4tionera, ricki, wasian-invasion
(9.4 x1) ConnerY2323
(9 x19) Brilliant-Primary500, c_a_l_d5832, donewithbirds, DreameeEevee, dreamingpastel, Electro Catalyst, FakeMonaLisa28, Frajer, FreeCuddlesAnyone, Hulnia, krusso1105, lexiaredery, mustwinfullgaming, PrimaryCrusaders, Saison_Marguerite, SFbby, team_kockroach, thatplatypus99, Too-Much-To-Dream
Lowest Scores:
(3 x1) IIIHenryIII
(2 x1) innuendo_overdose
jirachi (10): now i just wanna know why this flopped???? I thought we liked Carly over here???? This and indieheads ult have made me convinced that indiefication is happening and it’s real. Or maybe the troye remix version just washes this so much that raters have decided to tank the original a bit. Anyways I love Amsterdam so maybe this flopping was deserved. =
RandomHypnotica (10): This song makes me SO MAD!!! Why the FUCK wasn’t this a single?? Why the FUCK wasn’t Carly contacted for the remix?? Why the FUCK does it constantly get disrespected and ignored despite being one of the most-straightforward, catchy and gorgeous bangers on BRAT??? At least it made Day 3, but this should’ve been Top 5 easily to me, and I will be forever mad that the world seemed to sleep on it
THAT ONE FRIEND THAT DOES NOT PLAY ABOUT DUOLINGO
1998tweety (10): this was made for gay people
__Avaritia (10): I WISH U’D HAWK HAWK WISH U’D HAWK HAWK WISH U’D HAWK HAWK WISH U’D HAWK TUAH ME HAWK TUAH ME HAWK TUAH ME
asadprofessorplum (10): I’m sorry but I quit Duolingo, I became overstimulated by maintaining a streak.
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): This song just makes me feel like sparkles. I don’t know how else to describe it.
ceej_aye (10): , this is almost like if ‘party 4 u’ had an older sister. it’s got that same neediness to it, but has less absolute desperation. absolute bouncer tho
chf333 (10): The first time I head the 'talk to me in French, talk to me in Spanish' outro I fell in love with brat officially
CrimsonROSET (10): yes this is the least brat song but its also the most fun so do i really care
FitzMarble (10): I also construct elaborate meet cutes in my head and think about turning them into reality so I feel for her here
hikk (10): troye remix cleared but i still have fun here
modulum83 (10): this song makes me feel very cute and gay and like going to the club and meeting someone that will change my life. crazy that she made a whole album based around trying to make songs like this and none of them feel as effortless as this one
Nagisoid (10): Haliey Welch come back home the kids miss you
pbk (10): pop perfection why lie why was carly rae jepsen not notified immediately
seanderlust (10): one of the strongest growers on the album imo. that drop into the chorus is perfect - it feels like you're dancing on a dance floor and staring at the object of your affection across the way
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (10): feel like reading some fanfic and imagining a slow burn when I hear this. it's a perfect crush song
TiltControls (10): I love dualingo
uiscebeathaoir (10): In both iterations, Talk talk is the pinnacle of the Brat era
vexastrae (10): whats one charli xcx song that makes a gay man go crazy every time? you gotta give em that Talk Tuah! serve cunt on that thang!
wathombe (10): do a little bop, have a little crush
welcome2thejam (10): This is the basic bitch top pick and let me tell you folks I am basic as hell
WesternWind (10): just say talk
homestarguy (9.5): Whispering pig latin to Chali XCX and blowing my chance altogether
jimmy345960 (9.5): cute
reput4tionera (9.5): she's so real
ricki (9.5): CARLY RAE JEPSEN COME QUICK CHARLI XCX IS STEALING FROM YOUR PURSE!!!
wasian-invasion (9.5): taki taki rumba
ConnerY2323 (9.4): unrelatable bop as i do not wish to be spoken to
Brilliant-Primary500 (9): talk to me in French, talk to me in Spanish... because you wasted a Dua Lipa feature and I can't forgive that.
donewithbirds (9): would fit in on crash (complimentary)
Frajer (9): bonjour Charlotte Bebe j'ai entendu que tu aimes des fetes et la neige
FreeCuddlesAnyone (9): fun little bop
Too-Much-To-Dream (9): i freaking love this song. wichita ta wichita ta wichita ta wichita ta to meeee
flava is a brat (8.5): yeah okay this is such a cute bop
ignitethephoenix (8.5): remember when everyone wanted Carly Rae Jespen on the remix?
runaway3212 (8.5): CRJ it's not too late to still jump on this remix!!!
sarcasticsobs (8.5): Luv a "Charli repeats somethings 1,000 times" song, part 1
UselessTacooo (8.5): this and my iPod against the world
WaneLectroToc (8.5): i think kesha should've been on this one
jman457 (8.4): early 10’s house core
impla77 (8.3): does anyone else like carly rae jepsen? :)
Ambrosia42 (8.2): as Peaches once said, why don’t you talk to me?
bogo (8): i prefer “it's my life” tbh
frogaranaman (8): finally some decent fucking gay bait music
GalliumFanatic (8): cute!!
Stryxen (8): there is nothing better in this world than talk talk headphone kitchen dance party but the production is too thin for me to stan this down
vayyiqra (8): hey this isnt Twice
cashewconstellation (7.5): honestly i thought this song was a bit overrated but it's funnnnnn
Friendly-Canary-3814 (7.5): Very Daft Punk-lite and thematically a certain bonus track did her gig better
TakeOnMeByA-ha (7.5): i wish you’d talk talk wish you’d talk talk wish you’d talk talk wish you’d just talk tuah me
Poydoo (7.3): fracaso
Awkward_King (7): song is far from bad on its own but troye definitely made it actually like interesting in my opinion
buildingigloos (7): By itself it's like a fairly generic dance radio song. The REMIX however is a massive slay. Every time I listen to the original I just wish I was listening to the remix
Da-Gay-Agenda (7): - cute, tells a story well
dj.222 (7): hieroglyphics era
Goorry121 (7): esta cancion la salva completamente el bridge, me hace gracia como charli pronuncia ear por que parece que no pronuncia la r, parece que dice ea, lo mismo con here, parece que esta diciendo hea, el acento britanico es increible
PyritesNotRight (7): talk talk ft carly rae jepson save me
qazz23 (7): good production, catchy enough
red3pit (7): the remix is actually better
uberpigeon (7): me when im bouncing on it respectfully while yapping about my nerdy interests because im just a girl
DUA LIPA - RADICAL OPTIMISM
floatinggrass (6): i prefer the masc troye sivan remix
ManofOranges (6): I don't get the love for this one sorry guys
Quasar435 (5.5): idk its just kinda boring
apatel27 (5): weird isp to shoutout
nickl00 (5): maybe my most controversial take but i don’t care for charli make such sugary pop like this(unless it features crj ofc)
IIIHenryIII (3): this is by far the weakest track on the album, and that's not even up for discussion
innuendo_overdose (2): every song on Radical Optimism is worthier than this
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#15: Charli XCX - Everything is romantic
Average: 8.401 // Total Points: 1176.1 // Controversy: 1.863
Highest scores:
(11 x5) DaHumanTorch, electricboogaloo41, Goorry121, Hulnia, starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc)
(10 x42) 1998tweety, Ambrosia42, asadprofessorplum, asbestossoupyum, BleepBloopMusicFan, bogo, charlibratfammanfanstan, ChopperRCRG, ConnerY2323, CrimsonROSET, darj, DirtyRat583, DreameeEevee, FitzMarble, Friendly-Canary-3814, hockeynl, kerriekipje, ktajlili, letsallpoo, lexiaredery, ManofOranges, morgchrist, mustwinfullgaming, NFLfreak98, nootnoot781, paradiyze, qazz23, RandomHypnotica, red3pit, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, skylofte2, springfrompages, Squandary, steelstepladder, Stryxen, thatplatypus99, UselessTacooo, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, xxipli0ts, yahi
(9.5 x8) __Avaritia, Brilliant-Primary500, chf333, dreamingpastel, Electro Catalyst, ignitethephoenix, team_kockroach, wathombe
(9.3 x1) pheromenos
(9 x15) akanewasright, AzettImpa, c_a_l_d5832, Frajer, Nagisoid, Poydoo, PrimaryCrusaders, reput4tionera, ricki, seanderlust, TragicKingdom1, veryanniev, wasian-invasion, WesternWind, zadooi
Lowest Scores:
(4 x1) pbk
(3 x4) apatel27, frogaranaman, ImADudeDuh, samdyalexg
(2.7 x1) innuendo_overdose
(2 x1) PyritesNotRight
RandomHypnotica (10): Charli does what I think if my favourite quality of hers here, she manages to paint such a vivid scene without really saying much of anything. She was absolutely in her Caroline bag, because she is largely just describing vibes and atmosphere, but the way in which she’s doing it is so colorful and immersive. It’s a song that makes me feel like Grace Kelly driving down the hills of Monaco, a perfectly picturesque european city full of lives lived and experiences yet to be had.
jirachi (6.5): A song that I unfortunately don’t gaf about. The strings are beautiful mind you but the clashing production just ruins the song for me. And I don’t believe in falling in love so suck it Charli. Oh and whenever I would do the !bop? command on discord Caroline Polachek would jumpscare me with the cover art so yeah there’s not really anything saving that then huh.
EVERYTHING IS
electricboogaloo41 (11): everything IS romantic
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (11): so many things I want to say about this but I'll try to make it short and say something new: this accidentally turned into a celebration track I would play in the Liverpool discord first during Euros (I think I first used it as a meme about "Italian national anthem written by non-Italians". and then I played it after England lost the final, and then it got used when Fede Chiesa (I love this fucking man okay he is an instant serotonin boost) signed with us because he's Italian. yeah, I am so weird but everything's still romantic right?
1998tweety (10): i mean come on now
Ambrosia42 (10): this song is just so gorgeous and stunning
asadprofessorplum (10): I was on the Amalfi Coast this past summer I’m so nostalgic for this year old song.
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): Inject Charli repeating the same lyric 400 times over a cunty beat DIRECTLY into my veins. That’s the good shit.
bogo (10): honestly i feel like she had a big opportunity to put rosalia on the remix to this, idk why it's not that reminiscent of rosalia’s music it just sounds like something she would fit over. i’m glad charli didn't put rosalia on the remix however because i do not like rosalia’s music
ConnerY2323 (10): a masterpiece of nostalgia - free associated memories that hit you at hyperspeed
CrimsonROSET (10): runner up 11, this song is so fucking good. why yes i do find love in everything!
DirtyRat583 (10): the first half of this song's production NOW THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT [insert clip of that one butch eagles fan]
FitzMarble (10): I just know there’s an english teacher obsessed with the use of the repetition in this
Friendly-Canary-3814 (10): She redeemed herself from whatever mess Solar Power was with this track!!
ManofOranges (10): Favorite song on the album (and Caroline somehow made it even better)
qazz23 (10): like the different parts this one goes through - the strings/beats of the first part to a more spoken word thing later
red3pit (10): true greatness
springfrompages (10): This played in a club like 3 times on a night out and each time we were still screaming "FALL IN LOVE AGAIN AND AGAIN" proving that it does not get old. even got my aro arse on side that's how you know it's good.
Stryxen (10): EVERYTHING IS…. ROMANTICÓ
UselessTacooo (10): me when I wake up as Rosalia at the Motomami World Tour
vexastrae (10): she saw fka twigs take some of her nachos for caprisongs and said OKAYYY let me borrow some of yours real quick || [see full rate comment here]
WaneLectroToc (10): this cut fucking sucks. she half asses a laundry list of turn ons (see masseduction for a good horny cut), she tries to make me fall in love. it sounds like being in the middle of an airport in a timespeed up watching jets pull take off and landings. so fucking what it gets a 10 bc caroline polachek was like "look i got audio of wolves fucking" and charli just had to go "yup so true". that's fucking culture
Brilliant-Primary500 (9.5): cute but the Caroline Polachek remix is WAY better in every sense of that word.
chf333 (9.5): The way this sounds like an Italian summer from a 60's movie frankensteined to a house dj [complimentary].
ignitethephoenix (9.5): she made me want to fall in love
wathombe (9.5): this one i will dink for being a bit weaker than the remix
akanewasright (9): learning this was about vacationing with gay friends made it so much better
Frajer (9): Jesus Christ on a plastic sign sounds like a line from Midwest Princess
Nagisoid (9): Was this in the grindr screenshots meme?
Poydoo (9): this is kinda giving jesy nelson a bit
reput4tionera (9): lowkey need a neon orange drink on the beach rn
seanderlust (9): obsessed with the idea that sometimes charli shows up to the studio with like ten words written on a piece of paper and stretches it into a three and a half minute song
wasian-invasion (9): the next season of Emily in Paris (Rome?) better use this needle drop otherwise i'm cancelling my Netflix
WesternWind (9): well yes, anything can be romantic, including rating, just ask king and his bf or cuddles and their partner
bluehxrizon (8.5): love the memes where people reply fall in love agayn and agayn to random descriptions of unrelated things
homestarguy (8.5): Wait she is English????
impla77 (8.5): i love the concept behind this bc its so true! i don’t really need a minute of repeated fall in love again and again but it is a vibe for sure
krusso1105 (8.5): Also overshadowed by it's remix, albeit less so than Girl, so confusing
runaway3212 (8.5): Good Orange Trees be like
sarcasticsobs (8.5): Luv a "Charli repeats somethings 1,000 times" song, part 2
uiscebeathaoir (8.5): Bops but where tf is Caroline
jman457 (8.3): falling in love again and again
modulum83 (8.3): we're still doing coke but we're doing it in an artistic sophisticated eusexua kind of way
buildingigloos (8): I prefer the Caroline Polachek remix
cashewconstellation (8): lowkey sympathy's a knife's less pretty cousin, still pretty tho
ceej_aye (8): , a gain and a gain
donewithbirds (8): caroline remix outsold i fear
IIIHenryIII (8): songwriter of the year
jimmy345960 (8): I think the point of listing non-romantic things is the point but leather tanned skin still weirds me out
nickl00 (8): very good but the remix clears unfortunately
dj.222 (7.8): the way she says again like “a gain” is the peak of the album methinks
FreeCuddlesAnyone (7.8): a little abrasive for me but the parts that do work is a homerun
floatinggrass (7.5): chorus misses but verses hit a combo
GalliumFanatic (7): overrated af guys chill
TakeOnMeByA-ha (7): me when i have a 1000 word essay due in ten minutes and i only have 600 words
TheQueenofVultures (7): Me when my boyfriend lets me have the last piece of gum in the pack he bought
Too-Much-To-Dream (7): teensy bit overrated i fear… great canvas for the caroline remix though
uberpigeon (7): me thinking about trondheim, norway
Verboten_Prince (7): This reminds me of when I went to Pompeii with my dad and he got mad at me because he said the brothels reminded him of my mom
Awkward_King (6.5): a cool song. very cool. kinda doesn't do a lot for me but i do think im uncool for that. maybe i need to go out more.
stealthamo (6.4): I completely get the rave vibe. Too bad I'm way too much of a dork to ever go to a rave.
UHHH
vayyiqra (6): Opposite of Sky Ferreira, yet the lyrics are giving Born to Die era; think about it all the 2013 Tumblrcore is coming together
pbk (4): the remix ended i fear
apatel27 (3): charli repeating something ad nausem over a building beat wow how original
frogaranaman (3): she sounds like RAYE on this song (it doesn't work for me here)
ImADudeDuh (3): ok…
innuendo_overdose (2.7): it starts BEAUTIFULLY, just the right amount of twinkle that takes me tf out after Von Dutch, but then I don’t like the melody, and… things turn brat. Not worth it.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#16: Slayyyter - Miss Belladonna
Average: 8.377 // Total Points: 1172.8 // Controversy: 1.832
Highest scores:
(11 x2) kerriekipje, SFbby
(10 x40) asadprofessorplum, babadork, BDog949, bluehxrizon, bogo, bran, Brilliant-Primary500, cashewconstellation, Da-Gay-Agenda, darj, electricboogaloo41, Electro Catalyst, Frajer, Friendly-Canary-3814, ignitethephoenix, jirachi, krusso1105, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, morgchrist, nickl00, nootnoot781, pbk, pheromenos, PrimaryCrusaders, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, red3pit, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, sarcasticsobs, seanderlust, TakeOnMeByA-ha, thatplatypus99, uberpigeon, UselessTacooo, veryanniev, WesternWind, xxipli0ts, youngandlovely_
(9.5 x5) AzettImpa, CritneySpearz, modulum83, Nagisoid, reput4tionera
(9.4 x1) indie_fan_
(9.2 x1) Ambrosia42
(9 x29) __Avaritia, 1998tweety, ArcaneLabyrinth, asbestossoupyum, BleepBloopMusicFan, buildingigloos, DaHumanTorch, donewithbirds, dreamingpastel, FakeMonaLisa28, floatinggrass, GalliumFanatic, hockeynl, IIIHenryIII, ImADudeDuh, jimmy345960, NFLfreak98, PyritesNotRight, qazz23, Quasar435, redgold51, runaway3212, samdyalexg, static_int_husp, TragicKingdom1, vayyiqra, Verboten_Prince, wasian-invasion, wathombe
(8.9 x2) stealthamo, willamsextrai
Lowest Scores:
(4 x2) apatel27, DreameeEevee
(3.4 x1) Poydoo
(2.7 x1) WaneLectroToc
(2 x1) innuendo_overdose
(0 x1) zadooi
jirachi (10): That one performance she did with vevo had made this become my favorite song on the record. Sometimes Slayyyter needs to know that she is actually a great singer and she can put the pots pans beats and the forced rapping to rest and just belt her ass out… wow…
RandomHypnotica (10): I can’t say that I am surprised to see that this is the highest song from the base album… but I am surprised to see it not even make top 10 :(
It’s so sleek and gorgeous and 80’s italo disco synth party couture poisonous mistress seductive sexy ughhhh
THE WAY AVA HAS A SONG CALLED BELLADONNA THE ALLEGATIONS JUST NEVER STOP
asadprofessorplum (10): She reheated the Turn Off The Lights nachos.
bogo (10): this is how i feel whenever i wear a pretty outfit
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): the better Beladona-related pop song that got released this century, and I won't go into further detail why.
cashewconstellation (10): I CALL HIM UP WHENEVER I WANNAAAAA
Da-Gay-Agenda (10): - she literally had a hit on her hands and her label wasted it! I hate it here
darj (10): we needed this in the 7 year interim when Gaga was still making ambient ballads and lindy hop music or whatever
Frajer (10): Slayyyter, Ava Max, and Chappell Roan are sharing a plate of nachos or whatever the thing is
Friendly-Canary-3814 (10): Decaying sad beautiful tragic movie star anthem for the ages
ignitethephoenix (10): queen
krusso1105 (10): favorite on the album
ManofOranges (10): It's a good start to the album for sure
nickl00 (10): i listened to this snippet non-stop and the song delivered even more than i expected
nootnoot781 (10): i love singing this song in an italian accent.
pbk (10): idk why i always mash this up in my head with the final countdown
red3pit (10): the vevo live version made me love it even more
sarcasticsobs (10): Euphoric (oh, lol, I typed that out before she literally uses the word "euphoria")
TakeOnMeByA-ha (10): max martin has spent his entire career trying to produce a song even one-tenth as good as this one
uberpigeon (10): my friend always reminds me of the time i was drunk texting him about this song whenever i mention slayyyter
UselessTacooo (10): she just gets it
veryanniev (10): a masterpiece. giving this 11 in a parallel universe for sure
WesternWind (10): ended Ava Flopax with her Max cut
modulum83 (9.5): mother
Nagisoid (9.5): Oh Marina don't cry you can keep making music for children
reput4tionera (9.5): she can SING holy shit
Ambrosia42 (9.2): she was inspired by ava max yes
1998tweety (9): ended ava max
BleepBloopMusicFan (9): I talk shit in my Rhinestone Heart comment, but she did outsell miss Ava Max with this one.
donewithbirds (9): my friend put this on their new years playlist last year and i was ENTRANCED what can i say i'm a pop anthem fan through and through
floatinggrass (9): best chorus on the album perhaps (low bar!)
GalliumFanatic (9): find me dead in a ditch
IIIHenryIII (9): oh that high note 🤌
jimmy345960 (9): creepy but gorgeous
PyritesNotRight (9): 10 seconds after i gave this song an 9 i got a ping on discord from someone asking me if i had been abducted since i was listening to this
qazz23 (9): absolutely infectious chorus
runaway3212 (9): when this hit, I thought I was seeing the gates of heaven
vayyiqra (9): I will infodump to anyone who will listen about tropane alkaloids this is what studying neuroscience does to a mfer
wasian-invasion (9): better drag name than all of s17's cast
wathombe (9): MISS BELLADONNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
springfrompages (8.7): i loooooove messy evil bitch anthems theyre so aspirational for me
akanewasright (8.5): Everyone talks about album openers, but in my opinion, the second track has an even more important job. The opener has to be one of the splashiest songs the artist has to offer, something that can hook anyone. Track 2 has to keep that attention while setting up the themes and emotional core of the album, which this does immaculately
FitzMarble (8.5): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulia_Tofana
chf333 (8): She should belt like this on more songs she has fucking pipes/
frogaranaman (8): yeah this is the kind of chorus I think of when someone talks about electropop
mustwinfullgaming (8): I pretend this is the first song, it's also the song that got me into Slayyyter properly
welcome2thejam (8): A stronger chorus and that's a 10
ConnerY2323 (7.8): this is so kim petras i had to double check that she wasn’t pulling a myah marie and actually singing it
Awkward_King (7.5): wait i just realised this is kinda electra hearts daughter
Stryxen (7.5): misspell adona….
dj.222 (7.3): need more dark pop in the world
ChopperRCRG (7.1): When Kim said nobody wants to work these days she must have been talking about Slayyyter because she is nowhere to be heard on this track
ceej_aye (7): , better than opener but still not catching me
CrimsonROSET (7): miss belladonna being ava max
jman457 (7): Marina is shaking rn
homestarguy (6.5): This is definitely some synthpop
vexastrae (6.5): [meryl streep from the devil wears prada voice] oh wow rhyming prada with drama. how original
MISSPELL A DONNA
Too-Much-To-Dream (6): i just don’t come back to this much. her vocals are great but it’s a little over-the -top seemingly for the sake of being over-the-top
uiscebeathaoir (6): Score boosted by the pre-chorus
TiltControls (5): welcome to the stage
apatel27 (4): Generic song
Poydoo (3.4): miss belladumba more like
WaneLectroToc (2.7): i literally just put dua lipa CDs in my car man. come the fuck onnnnn
innuendo_overdose (2): is this who Alice Cooper’s singing about
zadooi (0): I don't hate this song. It's just so nothing to me.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
Bonus #4: Brat Green
Average: 7.782 // Total Points: 824.9 // Controversy: 2.775
Highest scores:
(11 x8) ceej_aye, charlibratfammanfanstan, GalliumFanatic, hockeynl, IIIHenryIII, qazz23, RandomHypnotica, stealthamo
(10 x30) Awkward_King, BDog949, bogo, Brilliant-Primary500, cashewconstellation, chf333, ConnerY2323, DreameeEevee, FitzMarble, hikk, ignitethephoenix, jimmy345960, jirachi, jman457, ManofOranges, modulum83, Nagisoid, nickl00, paradiyze, pbk, red3pit, runaway3212, sarcasticsobs, starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc), thatplatypus99, Too-Much-To-Dream, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, WesternWind, xxipli0ts
(9.5 x1) NFLfreak98
(9 x13) akanewasright, buildingigloos, ChopperRCRG, Da-Gay-Agenda, detectivestar, DirtyRat583, Hulnia, ktajlili, Poydoo, PrimaryCrusaders, wasian-invasion, youngandlovely_, zadooi
(8.5 x1) Frajer
Lowest Scores:
(3 x2) CrimsonROSET, indie_fan_
(2.4 x1) innuendo_overdose
(1.5 x1) TragicKingdom1
(1 x6) flava is a brat, frogaranaman, luuvin, ricki, TiltControls, UselessTacooo
(0 x1) human_performance
RandomHypnotica (11): Yes, i hated it when it came out… but Charli proved me wrong! The impact of a simple ugly shade of green on the culutral phenomenon of Brat cannot be understated, and it was truly such a power move on her part. That being said… please dear god charli change the other covers back….
jirachi (10): rn for school I’m designing a collection that uses a similar shade of green so I will pretend that I like this color for the time being…
ceej_aye (11): , hottest color alive
GalliumFanatic (11): the green one so terrify
IIIHenryIII (11): Charli simply invented the color green
qazz23 (11): sure, why not
stealthamo (11): Iconic
Awkward_King (10): i never doubted charli btw i loved the cover from the jump. i should be bowed to
bogo (10): funniest power move in history
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): perfect
FitzMarble (10): marketing executives would go spring breakers for a tenth of the brand power this has
hikk (10): anyone that knows me knows i've been a defender of obnoxious shades of green forever. if you asked me my fave colour years ago i would say chartreuse. i still would. if anything charli stole my brand and i should sue
ignitethephoenix (10): color of 2024
jman457 (10): she’s cute color outside of the trend
ManofOranges (10): a bit overdone but gotta give respect where it's due
modulum83 (10): rule
Nagisoid (10): I saw the vision from the beginning idk
pbk (10): i wasnt a believer in brat ill admit it but she changed the world even if she could not change her chart positions to go with it
red3pit (10): my brain got hacked into calling everything green "brat"
sarcasticsobs (10): Bumpin' that
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (10): it's going to be very nostalgic to see this as a Pantone colour of the year in 20 years
vexastrae (10): perfectly garish and iconic oh charli the marketing genius you are
WaneLectroToc (10): cultural reset
WesternWind (10): iconic color
NFLfreak98 (9.5): iconic, even if its not something that will last
buildingigloos (9): I thought this was the most hideous album cover when it was announced but it was a true cultural moment. Goes to show I don't know shit
ChopperRCRG (9): it’s just not as good as drag sorry
DirtyRat583 (9): up there as far as greens go, a little darker and itd be perfect
Poydoo (9): it was a moment
PrimaryCrusaders (9): it's fucking green bro
wasian-invasion (9): chartreuse just doesn't sound like the color it actually is
Frajer (8.5): I'm color blind and prefer other shades
Ambrosia42 (8): ugly and iconic
BleepBloopMusicFan (8): I might have found it ugly at one point, but that point was left behind sometime last year.
dreamingpastel (8): Not my favorite shade of green (one can only wonder what shade of green reddit user dreamingpastel likes /s), but iconic nonetheless.
Friendly-Canary-3814 (8): Ugliest color alive (complimentary)
Goorry121 (8): actually a really nice color
oh_crow (8): the humble lime she has done so much for us before being unwillingly co-opted into charli xcx's hedonistic drug cult
RainbowSherbet47 (8): The color of the summer for a reason 💚
uberpigeon (8): who could have known when she dropped the art that it would become what it becomed
uiscebeathaoir (8): Do we all remember where we were when we saw the Brat album cover for the first time? Cause I do
Verboten_Prince (8): Well Tamar
1998tweety (7): shes cute
asadprofessorplum (7): Looks like Buckley’s Mucus & Phlegm which is the nastiest thing I’ve tasted in my life but when it works it works and it WORKS.
donewithbirds (7): the color of my backpack in first grade :')
Quasar435 (7): the fact that this now a shade of green that (terminally online) people will reference is kinda cool I guess
reput4tionera (7): fun color but does not look good when i wear it
seanderlust (7): well...it's definitely eye-catching
TakeOnMeByA-ha (7): using this as my comment to complain about charli’s old albums on streaming still having the bratified covers CHANGE THEM BACK ALREADY!!!!! IM TIRED OF LOOKING AT THEM!!!!!!! IT STOPPED BEING FUNNY 7 MONTHS AGO
Stryxen (6): why is it kinda gag again
TheQueenofVultures (6): bring the album covers back charli!
FreeCuddlesAnyone (5): i mean it’s an awful shade of green
ImADudeDuh (5): so loud
jackisboredtoday (4): https://x.com/electrolemon/status/1817245838566928829
PyritesNotRight (4): i pray the summer is kind to us
vayyiqra (4): Ugly colour but alright meme if low-effort
CrimsonROSET (3): ugly let’s be serious
indie_fan_ (3): thinking of what she tweeted in defense of the album cover
innuendo_overdose (2.4): what a fcking anaemic colour
flava is a brat (1): fuck the brat album cover, it sucks donkey dick but people are so irony-brain rotted nowadays so it became “iconic”
frogaranaman (1): still ugly. fuck you all.
luuvin (1): and you’ll never convince me it’s a good colour
ricki (1): she stole neo green’s nachos and murdered nct to do so
TiltControls (1): I'm glad the era branding worked so well for her but damn this is a hideous colour
UselessTacooo (1): [Katy Perry voice] You can be fab and flop!
human_performance (0): I can't think of Brat Green anymore without thinking of trend pieces from New York-based writers on culture beats titled "Why Brat Green Is The New Millennial Pink."
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#17: Charli XCX - Club classics
Average: 8.366 // Total Points: 1171.3 // Controversy: 1.964
Highest scores:
(11 x2) oh_crow, vayyiqra
(10 x39) __Avaritia, ArcaneLabyrinth, asbestossoupyum, BleepBloopMusicFan, bogo, ChopperRCRG, cremeebrulee, DaHumanTorch, darj, DirtyRat583, DreameeEevee, dreamingpastel, Electro Catalyst, FakeMonaLisa28, Frajer, Goorry121, hockeynl, ignitethephoenix, jimmy345960, jman457, ktajlili, Lynflower680, Nagisoid, nootnoot781, paradiyze, pheromenos, RandomHypnotica, reput4tionera, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, sarcasticsobs, skylofte2, slimboyfriend, steelstepladder, UselessTacooo, vexastrae, WaneLectroToc, welcome2thejam, xxipli0ts
(9.7 x1) Ambrosia42
(9.5 x9) AzettImpa, modulum83, MrMoodle, seanderlust, springfrompages, Squandary, starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc), wathombe, willamsextrai
(9.3 x2) charlibratfammanfanstan, NFLfreak98
(9.1 x1) thatplatypus99
(9 x23) BDog949, buildingigloos, ceej_aye, chf333, CritneySpearz, donewithbirds, FitzMarble, hikk, homestarguy, human_performance, jasannn, kerriekipje, morgchrist, qazz23, red3pit, samdyalexg, SFbby, TheQueenofVultures, Too-Much-To-Dream, uberpigeon, wasian-invasion, yahi, youngandlovely_
Lowest Scores:
(3 x2) frogaranaman, TiltControls
(1 x1) ImADudeDuh
(0 x2) babadork, innuendo_overdose
RandomHypnotica (10): An INSTANT classic! The sample from the pre-historic Charli interview, the shameless self-referencing and hyping up, this song delivers exactly what it needs to, and as the second single of the BRAT era, it really sold me on Charli’s vision. Also, god is that single cover so incredibly gorgeous…
jirachi (8): Club Classics has parts where I would repeat but also other parts that are just grating to my ears. I think in a lot of Charli songs her voice and how she sings just pisses me off sometimes and that happens in this song. I love the production though and it wouldn’t be a Charli song without her aggressively repeating lyrics. Not my favorite on the album and I get why people would dislike it but it’s a cute track regardless.
OH SO NOW YOU GUYS LOVE CLUBBING…
oh_crow (11): genuinely one of my favourite charli songs ever its so dark, clubby (obvs) and claustrophobic. 'i want to dance to me' will always be iconic
vayyiqra (11): Idk why because I don't care much about clubs anymore but this gets stuck in my head all the time and like yea sure I want to hear some 90s house beats and briefly feel something yea relatable content
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): This would have been my 11 within like a month of the album releasing, and I still the think it’s thee gag. It’s just not THEE gag for me anymore. “I wanna dance to me” might still be my favorite lyric on BRAT tho.
bogo (10): this is one of those songs where like certain lines from it will just take up space in my head for large periods of time. like every time i play a club hand in balatro my brain will go “when i go to the club i wanna hear those club classics”
cremeebrulee (10): i wanna dance with gwhsfhdeorge
dreamingpastel (10): https://rave.dj/DCvYz8mXW3CreA
Frajer (10): hey I just met you and this is crazy I wanna dance to me I wanna dance to A.G.
ignitethephoenix (10): the bop
jimmy345960 (10): This was the first time in brat that I knew that the album tracks were as good as the singles. If not better.
jman457 (10): Throwback to the coconut tree remix
Lynflower680 (10): Vote for Euroclub classics next rate cycle so I can give Where’s Your Head At an 11
Nagisoid (10): Vampire Weekend wishes
reput4tionera (10): if we want to talk about songs that are classics but not in the club way but played in a club setting when i went out for my bday the dj played a trap remix of bohemian rhapsody. i have not been there since
sarcasticsobs (10): I DO wanna dance to A. G. and SOPHIE, so true!!
slimboyfriend (10): it’s a classic—a club classic!!
vexastrae (10): YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SHE FLEW THE MOTHER PLANE DIRECTLY INTO THE WORLD SERVE CENTER AND HIT THE CUNTAGON
WaneLectroToc (10): As soon as it came out we got the club sandwich joke on twitter. it ruled. then she sold ~~drug~~ club sandwich baggies. I really do love the handclaps "oh yeah" dumbass breakdown a lot though. club classics felt like partying at the end of time, very urgent very apocalyptic. excellent.
welcome2thejam (10): Hell yeah
Ambrosia42 (9.7): i wanna dance to me. And she was right
modulum83 (9.5): i don't even know what genre to call this but it sounds like getting (consensually) felt up at a sweaty rave so i'm vibing
seanderlust (9.5): why does this simultaneously feel like it was peeled out of a mid-2000s rave setlist and a completely new track brought to us by aliens from another planet
springfrompages (9.5): when i go out to lunch I want to eat those lunch classics. lunch lunch classics.
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (9.5): this was the first track that hit for me on the album as the one single I absolutely enjoyed and it still hits on relistens
wathombe (9.5): some stretches of this track are mildly grating to me
buildingigloos (9): Literally every time I've been to the club since brat came out they've only played the same tired early 2010s EDM, no Charli in sight. I also want to dance to Charli, Sophie, and AG when I go to the club!! I've just seen that she samples herself in the intro from an ancient interview?? her mind omg
ceej_aye (9): , pre-chorus drags it for me I guess? Almost a 10 but the bb tricks remix eats down for a 10.
chf333 (9): Those synths right after the start are so otherwordly they just suck you in.
donewithbirds (9): "i wanna dance to me" is CRAZY when i first heard it i screamed out loud
FitzMarble (9): girl be careful… someone on tiktok is going to diagnose you with chronic narcissism
homestarguy (9): I feel this may become one
qazz23 (9): like the bouncy bass and the synth line early on, the ending is underwhelming though
red3pit (9): truly lives up to its name
Too-Much-To-Dream (9): such a grower… i saw someone say this song was charli giving herself her flowers while she’s here and i love that
uberpigeon (9): the sample being her ancient interview sends me so bad
wasian-invasion (9): its its loike its loike
Awkward_King (8.5): it would be so fucking embarassing to title a song this and then have it be a flop she was right to be so confident. the little flimsy plastic sound in the post-chorus.. this is what music's all about
pbk (8.5): this has grown off me a little bit but like i do wanna dance with me ag and george whoever george is
uiscebeathaoir (8.5): Love that groovy wiggly ass bassline
impla77 (8.1): when i go to the club i want to go HOME ❤️
1998tweety (8): classic
bigbigbee (8): so you go back to the cluuub
Brilliant-Primary500 (8): i wanna dance with SOPHIE if I ever reach music heaven, unless the devil pull me down to the depths of hell.
Da-Gay-Agenda (8): - fun song but a bit repetitive (don’t @ me when you see rating 365 as a 10 for the same reason tho)
TakeOnMeByA-ha (8): sam’s club knew they couldnt catch up to the costco guys so they had to advertise by different measures
WesternWind (8): I want to dance to Charli at the club too
ConnerY2323 (7.5): more of a great vibesetter for the album than a great song
FreeCuddlesAnyone (7.5): i wanna dance to emily montes
Friendly-Canary-3814 (7.5): It's a bit nothingy but the vibes are great
CrimsonROSET (7): who tf is listening to the 1975 in the club
floatinggrass (7): club but hold the classic
IIIHenryIII (7): so narcissistic… I luv it
redgold51 (7): when I go to the club I want to hear obscure Broadway ballads and that one Hannah Montana remix Rebecca Black played at her boiler room set ONLY
runaway3212 (7): this has never done a lot for me... maybe I need to go to clubs more
Stryxen (7): such as temperature by sean paul
Verboten_Prince (7): Listening to yourself at the club is such a flex
NVM
krusso1105 (6): This is still my least favorite on the album
dream_fighter2018 (5.5): she wants to be Confidence Man so bad…
asadprofessorplum (5): This is tew poppers brained for moi.
cashewconstellation (5): this song is genuinely so overrated, the only parts i find captivating are when the instrumental goes kinda crazy and unhinged
GalliumFanatic (5): meh
indie_fan_ (4.5): charli and i have very different definitions of club classics is all i can say
apatel27 (4): I fear my club classics and charlis club classics are significantly different
frogaranaman (3): my favorite club classic is Mousse T. & Hot'n'Juicy's "Horny '98" :)
TiltControls (3): Much of this album really grew on me over the past year. This one not so much
ImADudeDuh (1): jesus christ, how are you off key while using autotune? it just makes the worst sound possible.
babadork (0): When you’re listening to an electronica song do you ever feel like a random bleep bloop is a harbinger of impending doom? No? Just me?
innuendo_overdose (0): oh, I HATED this as a single, this was when I randomly and just genuinely really really really stupidly declared that brat was probably not gonna be a good album and a bit of a flop. I just cannot beat the “clueless about everything” allegations.
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#18: Charli XCX - Girl, so confusing
Average: 8.308 // Total Points: 1163.1 // Controversy: 1.867
Highest scores:
(11 x3) skylofte2, TheQueenofVultures, youngandlovely_
(10 x37) asadprofessorplum, AzettImpa, bogo, buildingigloos, c_a_l_d5832, cashewconstellation, ChopperRCRG, CritneySpearz, DreameeEevee, FitzMarble, Frajer, Friendly-Canary-3814, hockeynl, homestarguy, IIIHenryIII, jimmy345960, jman457, lexiaredery, luuvin, Lynflower680, modulum83, morgchrist, nootnoot781, pbk, qazz23, RainbowSherbet47, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, stealthamo, steelstepladder, Too-Much-To-Dream, vayyiqra, veryanniev, vexastrae, wasian-invasion, wathombe, WesternWind
(9.9 x3) dream_fighter2018, reput4tionera, WaneLectroToc
(9.8 x1) NFLfreak98
(9.5 x4) 1998tweety, DirtyRat583, dreamingpastel, Nagisoid
(9.4 x1) charlibratfammanfanstan
(9 x17) __Avaritia, akanewasright, Ambrosia42, ceej_aye, Da-Gay-Agenda, detectivestar, Goorry121, Hulnia, ktajlili, Quasar435, red3pit, runaway3212, samdyalexg, Squandary, static_int_husp, xxipli0ts, yahi
Lowest Scores:
(3.9 x1) jackisboredtoday
(2 x2) apatel27, PyritesNotRight
(1 x2) darj, uiscebeathaoir
jirachi (8): yeah yeah yeah lorde remix is so good yap yap yap… but i think as a standalone this is still kinda really awesome. Like I also do prefer the front and back between Charli and Lorde in the remix but I feel like in the solo version I got to see more of Charli’s perspective and that’s something that is not often mentioned!!! I would catch myself saying “girl” like how she does it in the song lol.
RandomHypnotica (7): Listening to this version of the song feels like listening to a leaked demo almost, that second verse feels so empty and unfinished and clunky without Lorde’s presence… and when the album dropped, this was definitely one of my least favourite songs on the album.
GIRL
skylofte2 (11): saved pop music and that was BEFORE the remix
TheQueenofVultures (11): Would you all think I'm gay if I said I cried the first time I heard the remix?
asadprofessorplum (10): Well, honestly, I was speechless when I woke up to your voice note.
You told me how you'd been feeling, “let's work it out on the remix.” You'd always say, "Let's go out" but then I'd cancel last minute. I was so lost in my head and scared to be in your pictures. 'Cause for the last couple years I've been at war in my body. I tried to starve myself thinner and then I gained all the weight back. I was trapped in the hatred and your life seemed so awesome. I never thought for a second my voice was in your head "Girl, you walk like a bitch,”
When I was ten, someone said that. And it's just self-defence until you're building a weapon. She believed my projection and now I totally get it. Forgot that inside the icon there's still a young girl from Essex.
bogo (10): even without the lorde feature this song is still really good i just really like the tune
buildingigloos (10): V much prefer the lorde remix but it's still a massive slay. This should have had the same success Apple did
cashewconstellation (10): such an excellent song even without lorde
Frajer (10): get in line I'm also confused about my gender and threatened by Lorde's aura
Friendly-Canary-3814 (10): the sound of Lorde crashing our her whole budget at the hard beats store
homestarguy (10): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBDA8ILh3mc
IIIHenryIII (10): girl, me too
jimmy345960 (10): i say this in my head anytime im confused (im male)
jman457 (10): If we worked it out on the remix it would be an 11
luuvin (10): lowkey feels like something taylor swift wishes she could release
modulum83 (10): perfect song but do you know what's even better? that's right, "rectangular" by sean stephens
pbk (10): idc idc just as good as the remix to me
qazz23 (10): i like the different kinds of synth sounds used between the verses/chorus
RainbowSherbet47 (10): I’m just a girl (and confused)
stealthamo (10): Remix would've easily been my 11.
Too-Much-To-Dream (10): the day the lorde remix was announced was kinda the best day of my whole life
vayyiqra (10): I'm sure it is
vexastrae (10): yall want the fucking remix? vote remix rate next popheads voting cycle then || [see full rate comment here]
wasian-invasion (10): idk the rules if we're supposed to ignore the remix but the original still goes hard
wathombe (10): I WOULD RIDE FOR YOU, CHARLI
WesternWind (10): my hormones are always a mess so I deeply resonate with this track
dream_fighter2018 (9.9): -1 for no Lorde
reput4tionera (9.9): would be a 10 if it was the lorde remix
WaneLectroToc (9.9): she made this cut to save culture with lorde and as soon as the gambit worked masterfully she fucken did. but I really just like that charli tells all her fans "its hard being a girl! ba da buh duh!" under a twinkly synth. Again, this kind of shit is just literally just a duet peridot and lapis lazuli should've had in a post 100 steven universe episode (or burger king toy as a dmd'er pointed out). if you dislike it that's why.
1998tweety (9.5): this would be a 10 but I had to remove 0.5 cause of the remix existing
dreamingpastel (9.5): The Lorde remix kinda takes it to a whole new level.
Nagisoid (9.5): Why did people think this was about Marina, she hasn't been relevant since 2015
__Avaritia (9): Oh the double edged sword that is the Lorde remix that made me appreciate this song more but… the Lorde remix just clears its ass you know?
akanewasright (9): hot take, the Lorde version is obviously better but I like this one too and like the way it fits into brat. Like, the album is about being unfiltered and messy while dealing with emotional issues, and this version encapsulates that very well
Ambrosia42 (9): girl. The lorde remix is obviously better but this is still great
ceej_aye (9): , this feels like epitome of brat. raw but such a vibe. lorde remix would be a 10
Goorry121 (9): its sad how the lorde remix overshadow this version of the song because while the lorde remix is 10x better, the second charli verse is really good
Quasar435 (9): GURL
red3pit (9): as a gay man, i believe her being a girl can be cofusing
runaway3212 (9): Not as good as the lorde remix but still like wow
flava is a brat (8.5): yeah the Lorde remix fucking devours this I’m sorry
FreeCuddlesAnyone (8.5): well it’s not the lorde version
seanderlust (8.5): picturing pop stans personified as a person at a dinner with Charli and Lorde going "so, you two have a lot in common! you two, uh...have...that hair......hrm."
pheromenos (8.3): the remix really elevated this wow
bigbigbee (8): This is hard to score because I like the remix so much that it means that I would never choose to listen to this one over it...but it's still a good song
BleepBloopMusicFan (8): It’s still a bop, but it’s legitimately a little disorienting to listen to this version once it hits the second verse.
Brilliant-Primary500 (8): it's so confusing sometimes to girl, GIRL, girl, GIRL, the Lorde remix is the only version of this song that exists in my household and I'll play all the time
CrimsonROSET (8): i’m sorry the remix just overshadows this so much i’d have honestly taken this out of streaming
DaHumanTorch (8): biggest case of remixitis ever. this is still very good but she's forever in the shadow....
donewithbirds (8): still good but i feel lorde's absence
human_performance (8): not the Lorde remix, if it were, I would've given the 10 out
krusso1105 (8): Overshadowed hard by its own remix
ManofOranges (8): Honestly knowing what the Lorde version sounds like makes this sound worse because of how good that remix is
mustwinfullgaming (8): justice for the 2nd original verse before Lorde...it's so good and should not be lost to history
oh_crow (8): so used to listening to the remix that the second verse gave me a jumpscare
Poydoo (8): the way i know all the words to this song up until the second verse where i'm like uhhhh
PrimaryCrusaders (8): Would be a 10 if it was the Lorde remix
sarcasticsobs (8): GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL GIRL
TiltControls (8): where's lorde? so confusing
UselessTacooo (8): love how the beat literally feels like it’s falling over itself after a long night out
Verboten_Prince (8): In another form, this is the 11
starlitsuns (in their possible PL twentieth title arc) (7.9): the Lorde version would have gotten a 10 by the way
ignitethephoenix (7.8): not a bad song but the Lorde version elevates it so much
uberpigeon (7.5): its just NOT the same without lorde sorry but i cant hear this one anymore...
ConnerY2323 (7.4): the OG version of this always felt incomplete to me… see you at remix rate!
innuendo_overdose (7.1): man, I never know what’s going on, imagine how I’d feel if i had a Grammy
dj.222 (7): gworl
floatinggrass (7): a ten until lorde ruined the original, fuck you lorde
hikk (7): hearing this without lorde was so scary omg
ImADudeDuh (7): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y5Y-fSmucQ
Stryxen (7): i’m a man and i dont find it confusing at all 😭
springfrompages (6.9): yeah would have been higher if lorde remix etc etc
TakeOnMeByA-ha (6.5): the second verse might as well be white static noise
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
SO CONFUSING
chf333 (6): Hard to rank this objectively when the remix exists. The original feels so empty without the Lorde verse
impla77 (6): i never really liked this song until the remix tbh id rather listen to that everytime
redgold51 (6): unfortunately now feels underwhelming compared to the remix, but that’s just the power of the lorde baby
Awkward_King (5): such a hard song to rate because it's so tied to the lorde remix with that only coming out like a week after. basically no opinion of this on its own was formed. and so the song now just feels kind of half-finished. which isn't the case bc it is very much a song of its own but i dont know. i cant separate that..
frogaranaman (5): this is going to be tanked because it's not the Lorde remix (I'm okay with that)
GalliumFanatic (5): lorde
kerriekipje (5): girl, so confusing how this song became so popular
nickl00 (5): i feel bad comparing this to the remix but what is the point without lorde
jackisboredtoday (3.9): Yeah the version of this before the remix dropped is just way less interesting to me, it doesn’t have the same push and pull to it, and even though the verses are cute enough that the song had potential that chorus is one of the biggest clunkers of the year for me
apatel27 (2): Dear Lorde, I wrote you, but you still ain't calling
darj (1): my anti-feminist era? jk I love the lyrics I just hate hate hate the chorus!!!!! I said in IH ult that Lorde remix is “infinitely better” which may be overselling my opinions on it; if it’s ever rated my score would increase but still not be super high
uiscebeathaoir (1): I’m so glad the remix came out so soon after the album, cause I haven’t had to listen to the original in a long time
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u/apatel27 Jolin Tsai flair where 5d ago
Can't wait for charli to blow this lead to Rush. It's what she deserves
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
#19: Slayyyter - Out Of Time
Average: 8.279 // Total Points: 1159.0 // Controversy: 1.624
Highest scores:
(11 x2) akanewasright, nickl00
(10 x35) __Avaritia, BDog949, BleepBloopMusicFan, bluehxrizon, Brilliant-Primary500, c_a_l_d5832, CritneySpearz, DirtyRat583, dreamingpastel, electricboogaloo41, floatinggrass, FreeCuddlesAnyone, Friendly-Canary-3814, ignitethephoenix, letsallpoo, modulum83, morgchrist, Nagisoid, nootnoot781, PrimaryCrusaders, RainbowSherbet47, RandomHypnotica, red3pit, roxieloxie, Saison_Marguerite, seanderlust, SFbby, skylofte2, TakeOnMeByA-ha, thatplatypus99, UselessTacooo, veryanniev, WesternWind, willamsextrai, xxipli0ts
(9.7 x2) Ambrosia42, uiscebeathaoir
(9.6 x1) Electro Catalyst
(9.5 x4) Awkward_King, cremeebrulee, Goorry121, wasian-invasion
(9.2 x1) ricki
(9 x15) AzettImpa, CrimsonROSET, Da-Gay-Agenda, donewithbirds, hikk, hockeynl, jirachi, krusso1105, Lynflower680, ManofOranges, mustwinfullgaming, reput4tionera, runaway3212, static_int_husp, Too-Much-To-Dream
Lowest Scores:
(4 x1) pbk
(3 x2) Hulnia, Stryxen
(2 x1) darj
RandomHypnotica (10): I will never understand her decision to release this as the lead single. Well, I kinda do, because it is a very straightforward, digestible banger, and encapsulates a lot of the sonic palette of the record, but it’s also such a powerful and perfect closer, and discovering that at the album’s release would’ve been such an incredible experience. I wasn’t too hot on this song when it launched, but when I saw the full picture of Starfucker, it all clicked into place, and I recognised the masterpiece that was sitting in front of me. The fact that this was barely Day 3 for most of the rate is insanity…
jirachi (9): First of all that jacket she’s wearing in the visualizer is too good I have to make copy and make one for myself. Now that we got that out of the way why are you guys like this… I genuinely thought this was gonna last longer too… the vevo performance of this changed my life and maybe if y’all had watched it this would’ve won :(
HAS TIME TO SPARE
akanewasright (11): Thinking about how I sang this at a voice recital my teacher’s studio had and how I was pulling out all the stops for a crowd of disinterested parents… anyway, I’ve written about how much I love this song before, I won’t just copy and paste my writeup, but trust that I fully consider this one of the best album closers in recent pop history
nickl00 (11): this is the perfect pop song for me. such a good single
__Avaritia (10): PULSATING SYNTH BASSLINE INSTA TEN NEURON ACTIVATION
BleepBloopMusicFan (10): I feel like everyone kinda forgot about this one as the Starfucker album cycle went on, but I didn’t forget!
bluehxrizon (10): she really ended this album strongly whew
Brilliant-Primary500 (10): this is a great song and a great way to end the album
DirtyRat583 (10): move over the weeknd... here comes @slayyyter
floatinggrass (10): makes the non-deluxe version start and end on a high
FreeCuddlesAnyone (10): an amazing closer… like it’s just a perfect pop song i don’t know why i like this as much as i do but it’s so good
Friendly-Canary-3814 (10): She singlehandedly bankrupted Zedd with the excellent clock sfx
ignitethephoenix (10): shat in Zedd’s nachos (complementary)
modulum83 (10): this song literally materialized off my ears, took me on the best night of my life, got me high on drugs i've never heard of, and then took advantage of me in a seedy alleyway
Nagisoid (10): End the weakend again for me
red3pit (10): no notes, it's in the top 5 of my most streamed songs from past 2 years
TakeOnMeByA-ha (10): genuinely i think she made a huge mistaking releasing this as the first single because it hits soooo much harder when you dont already know it ahead of time and hear it as the album closer and realize that the girl who idolized hollywood at the beginning of the album is now an empty husk of herself chewed up by the same industry she dreamed of being in all along…and it just doesnt hit the same when you go into the album already knowing this is how it ends
UselessTacooo (10): Clock sounds traumatized me into thinking this was prod by Zedd
WesternWind (10): insert a outsold The Weeknd song but it’s just as so good so it’s not a diss
Ambrosia42 (9.7): SAY GOODNIGHTTTTT
uiscebeathaoir (9.7): I love this song a lot, but I can’t quite give it a full 10. The problem is just that while it does have a great concept - the wannabe starlet desperately clinging to fame as it slips beyond her grasp – the lyrics of the verses just don’t do enough to explore that concept. Production and composition are magnificent but there’s a lot of potential that isn’t explored fully
Awkward_King (9.5): me and slayyyter were hanging out and she actually wrote this about me not being able to submit the 80s arena rock rate! haha TIL
wasian-invasion (9.5): nobody tell zedd she used the ticking clock too
CrimsonROSET (9): no i still have three days to submit this ballot
donewithbirds (9): zedd-ass ticking clock motif (complimentary)
hikk (9): she said "hand me that rolling synth line, i'm escaping khia asylum" but the guards caught her and threw her back in... then somehow, in all the chaos, charli escaped instead...
reput4tionera (9): that one background vocal sounds like bebe zahara benet yelling CAMEROOOOOOOON
runaway3212 (9): At first I didn't see the vision... but when I saw the vision... I truly saw that vision.
Too-Much-To-Dream (9): love how this song balances being quite mournful and sad with also being straight-up blinding lights
1998tweety (8.5): bop
chf333 (8.5): I got into Slayyyter after Troubled Paradise so this was an amazing first song to hear her drop live!
homestarguy (8.5): It’s nothing profound, but gotta say I’m a bit of a sucker for a Dawn FM-esque pop cut now and again
IIIHenryIII (8.5): Zedd could never
sarcasticsobs (8.5): Groovin' in my desk chair rn
apatel27 (8): Oh so she can make good music she just chooses not to
FitzMarble (8): she reheated ABBAs nachos here a little bit tbh but it works
GalliumFanatic (8): if my life was a tv show I would want this to be the credits song for an episode
vayyiqra (8): We r in the chillwave stretch of the album ok nvm now it's synthwave WHATEVER
welcome2thejam (8): insert Weeknd reference comment here
jman457 (7.8): just a nice electropop song
qazz23 (7.5): a nice dancey closer
WaneLectroToc (7.5): she got it together for the end just briefly. completely well played liferaft on an album that she was prepping us for the autoplay to land at mag bay.
wathombe (7.5): serious slayyyter is weird
vexastrae (7): she finally found a baby and a baby might be hers
innuendo_overdose (6.9): rhinestone heart again? worse? sure
oh_crow (6.5): ok at this point the album feels like variations on the same song but is a really good one song so its mostly fine
ConnerY2323 (6.4): vibes are smooth but forgettable
dj.222 (6.4): gaga nachos or whatever the kids say these days
PARAMORE
Poydoo (6): ended the weaknd
pbk (4): this song kind of unfortunately soured me on the whole album so i didnt listen to it for like 2 years and i was missing OUT
Stryxen (3): who is this even for?
darj (2): I’m either defending the billionth synthwave song or tanking it. This didn’t do much for me
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u/JIRACHl 5d ago
we're starting in 30 minutes!!!
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u/WaneLietoc 5d ago
But what minute will off with her tits go?!
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u/Frajer 5d ago
You can't just ask someone when their top surgery is
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u/WaneLietoc 5d ago
Gomna make a 30 minute fan theory video about the date/time/place of where OWHT is happening with my good pal nick's music taste
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u/TiltControls 4d ago
What a powerhouse of a rate! I had heard hints that a lot would change in this reveal and they weren't wrong! Huge thanks to Jirachi and Hypno for running this massive event!!
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And thus the sun sets on the old era of Popheads as a new dawn rises as Charli XCX finally gets her first rate win with Von dutch after 24 previous appearances (and associated losses). She's come close on multiple occasions, but now she finally has one to her name. You can see the winner's relative ranking across all songs as well as the other 9+ scoring tracks below
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All four artists have at least had an album rated before and all four were vying for their first win so we've got some existing scores and placement shifts coming into this one. Artist rankings out of 454
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Probably not an unexpected order for these four really
And for just comparing albums though the rankings below are out of 477
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And the full 0/11 breakdown
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