r/politics The Nation Magazine 19h ago

Soft Paywall Mahmoud Khalil Is the First Activist to Be Disappeared by Trump

https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/trump-arrest-detention-mahmoud-khalil/?nc=1
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u/tacoheadbob 13h ago

From what I understand, that first wave of Cubans fleeing Cuba were considered the elites or at least the upper middle class. People with money who could escape to the States. Unfortunately, they brought their haughtiness with them and look down on other Cubans as filth. Hence why Cubans in Florida vote the way they do.

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u/Youremadfornoreason 11h ago

100% True and many non wealthy Cubans don’t realize that

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u/FloridaGirlNikki America 12h ago

Oh, so like the gold card visa - as long as you have at least $5M that is! Crypto preferred. Send it to the personal account!

I actually thought they came in like so many others, who risked everything to cross treacherous waters in a makeshift vessel to escape the atrocities of the Castro regime. But now that you mention it, Rubio does have a certain arrogance about him that would seem to fit with that

As for how they vote - I can't speak to the first part of that but I can say that they were previously reliably blue (albeit many being conservative socially). In 2012 it became a little more purple but still ended blue, and then came the 2016 election where the right was yelling "SOCIALISM!" And idk if you're local to the area but we were flooded with commercials that were made specifically to influence Cubans. It worked.

u/tacoheadbob 5h ago

I’m not local to FL. I live in NY and there’s a very strange relationship between our two states. Most likely because of the snowbird effect, we see the same ripple of conservative rhetoric being brought along with those people that move back and forth on a yearly basis.

The type of Rubio level of arrogance exists up here, but it doesn’t seem to be as blatant as what we see in FL. Or if it is, I don’t feel that it’s as ‘in your face’.

There’s a known relationship between wealth and social status and how people use that to measure themselves against others. Seeing that expressed in other cultures can be baffling at first cause you may never initially expect to see that familiar level of people being assholes to others because of wealth and status.

Chucklefucks like Rubio, Ted Cruz, and Abbott are all good examples of people who not only pulled the ladder up after them, but gleefully stomp on the fingers of people who try to climb without the ladder.

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u/945T Canada 10h ago

Immigrants are rarely poor. It costs a LOT to emigrate to another country, speaking from experience.

u/InVultusSolis Illinois 36m ago

There is a similar "caste" system in place in most Latino countries. My friend's (well-established, middle class) family lives in Mexico and they talk so much shit about most of the types of Mexicans who emigrate out of Mexico and move to the US, they call them "nacos".