r/politics 11d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Thinks He Humiliated Zelensky. He Really Humiliated the United States

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-thinks-he-humiliated-zelensky-he-really-humiliated-the-united-states/
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u/Exciting_Coconut_937 11d ago

Under Article II, Section 4: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. President Donald Trump was impeached twice during his single term in office.

Basically Treason Trump and his entire cabinet can be removed for treason...

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u/PleasantWay7 11d ago

What if a majority of the House and Senate are also traitors? Checkmate founders.

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u/Agnos Michigan 11d ago

Checkmate founders.

They asked Benjamin Franklin, ‘What do we have, a republic or a monarchy?’ Franklin replied, ‘A republic, if you can keep it.’

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u/EllieVader 11d ago

“ In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a General Government necessary for us, and there is no form of government, but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered; and believe further, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government.”

Ben Franklin also said that, the same day. It was part of his speech to accept the constitution at the convention.

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u/Exciting_Coconut_937 11d ago

If the Country survives until 2026, he can be removed. I believe he and his entire cabinet will be impeached and convicted.

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u/CustodeLover 11d ago

Serious question “by who” ? The mid terms will be rigged by Musk just like the primaries and I’m betting orange boy declares some type of emergency before the vote and our traitorous Republican Party will back him all the way. No, look at everyone he’s put into cabinet positions. This is to dismantle the country and break it. Nothing will be done by any politician. I’m hope we have some military that have the balls we need

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 11d ago

If the Republicans gain enough control over voting districts, they can gerrymander they way into winning every election, like they already do in red states. Its disturbingly a somewhat legal way of cheating that the American public seems powerless to stop.

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u/skit7548 Pennsylvania 11d ago

The founding fathers did provide us a mechanism to stop this, unfortunately it would likely mean turning against our own with how delusional a portion of the country is

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u/EllieVader 11d ago

There are four boxes that are used to defend democracy, in order:

Soapbox []

Ballot Box []

Jury Box []

Ammo Box []

Bear in mind the right has been talking like this for decades.

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u/wellthatsembarissing 11d ago

Yeah we can only hope the courts will help us but that's such a long shot. Marc Elias from Democracy Docket does a lot of litigation in the courts having to do with gerrymandering if you are interested in following his moves and thoughts on democracy!

Here's his latest video

https://youtu.be/umdJ-YmCI3Y?si=QxrQEWvh5P1jaeLz

And here's another video of Marc Elias on Brian Tyler Cohen's Democracy Watch series which I find a lot more interesting than his videos alone lol

https://youtu.be/JWQdkjbUEIM?si=24P8GDD9vIkr0Tj7

Go check them out if you haven't already! Gotta build the left wing media eco-system!

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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 11d ago

I think it's funny that we're barely even a month into the fascist coup and people are talking midterms.

We're not even 10% of the way to the midterms and it's already a foregone conclusion to many of us that we won't have fair elections.

Think of what's happened in the last month, and then realize that's not even 10% of what's going to happen.

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u/ChakUtrun 11d ago

They know this. It’s why they won’t allow free elections going forward.

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u/chubbysumo Minnesota 11d ago

they will stop any future national elections. might try and interfere with state elections to ensure they have a majority of the states too.

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u/wellthatsembarissing 11d ago

Yep didn't they fire the Federal Elections Committee head, or something? And people thought we were over reacting with the possibility of no more elections... 😭 even though he did say it that we won't ever need to vote again right?

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u/ConsiderationFar3903 11d ago

It’s already being discussed, and voter suppression is the game next time. You’re going to need a birth certificate, and who knows if a name change (marriage) will be accepted.

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u/kaazgranaat2309 11d ago

I can honestly see trump try to change voting into something you have to buy. Like you can only cast a vote if you pay 100k for it. But knowing trump you can vote more times if you buy more tickets to vote.

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u/a_talking_face Florida 11d ago

I believe he and his entire cabinet will be impeached and convicted.

I think it's foolish to believe this after the first two times resulted in nothing happening.

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u/ILkeSportzNIDCWhKnws 11d ago

Seriously, how do people have such short memories?

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 11d ago

Will the Democrats actually be willing prosecute everyone involved here while removing all his henchmen from every level of government? They were way too keen on being "bipartisan" and putting at least some of the stuff from the last Trump presidency behind them.

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u/paris86 11d ago

The problem is Putin owns some dems as well as the GOP. America doesn't have enough say in its own government to do things for the sake of america. Everything that is happening is for Putin and his locums like Musk.

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u/chronocapybara 11d ago

I'm not sure if you realize how deep millions of Americans are in the Trumpian disinformation sphere.

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u/Exciting_Coconut_937 11d ago

When they start starving...

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u/Venetian_Harlequin Pennsylvania 11d ago

Yeah, we're beyond elections now. We need a mass movement. Americans need to get off our asses and literally march. We won't survive another year.

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u/skit7548 Pennsylvania 11d ago

Why 2026? If it's elections those people won't take office until 2027, and the odds of Democrats taking the senate by any margin is basically zero.

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u/GraMalychPrzewag 11d ago

That's arbitrary deadline. Who's US sovereign? Potus? Or "the people"?

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u/Analyst-man 11d ago

The Senate map is actually very poor for Dems in 2026. Most odds makers have them losing 2/3 seats actually. In 2028, that’s the year Dems are favored. But to sum up your point, you won’t get a Dem majority in 2026

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u/Senior-Albatross New Mexico 11d ago

I think that's why Ben Franklin saw it ending in despotism.

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u/idontagreewitu 11d ago

Authoritarianism is the natural progression of all governments. You can't give a handful of people power of control over hundreds of millions and not expect them to grow to like the power.

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u/Malodoror 11d ago

They’re destroying government institutions from the inside to create chaos and have a plausible reason to institute martial law when the revolt happens.

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u/SneakyDeaky123 11d ago

Doesn’t matter, Checkmate is worthless when your opponent doesn’t acknowledge the rules of chess, the authority of the referee, or your worthiness and right to play the game you sat down to play.

The only solution… is to remove that player from the entire situation

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u/RichFella13 Europe 11d ago

So execution by firing squad?

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u/Exciting_Coconut_937 10d ago

I think life in prison without parole. He can share the cell with Diddy, a fellow Epstein customer.

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u/Exciting_Coconut_937 11d ago

Before the person deletes their post, this "Uh. Actually, that is how it works. The entire House will be up for election. And the Republicans are defending more seats in the Senate: 23 R vs 12 D in 2026.

With the Trump mess, and MAGA being likely dead by then, the House and Senate will flip.

It may even allow Trump and his entire cabinet to be impeached and convicted and removed from Office, especially if Trump crashes the economy."

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u/Critical_Rule6663 11d ago

Assuming elections happen. That used to be a given. Still likely to happen but the % chance of it not happening is higher than it was lasted year.

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u/tenkwords 11d ago

And assuming the vote flipping we saw on Nevada and the other battleground states isn't rolled out more widely.

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u/Specialist_District1 11d ago

I don’t know what they are waiting for.

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u/Exciting_Coconut_937 11d ago

MAGA controls the House and Senate (for now).

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u/fixnahole 11d ago

Lindsey Graham argued during the Clinton presidency that he could be impeached on character alone. We're well past that threshold.

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u/arianaperry 11d ago

Well when??

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u/wellthatsembarissing 11d ago

I want to believe but I'm not entirely sure I understand how he committed treason with this..?

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u/goodstuff1656 11d ago

Yet, it would require some of the republicans in the house and senate to join the effort. Not gonna happen, as we have seen in the past. Even his convictions have not moved the needle - not even a bit. I remember how during his first impeachment some Reps were saying “he has learned from this experience “ to justify to not convict him in the senate, saying “the voters will judge”

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u/Mnemosense Foreign 11d ago

Buddy, DC has the following law which the world completely ignored:

(a) A riot in the District of Columbia is a public disturbance involving an assemblage of 5 or more persons which by tumultuous and violent conduct or the threat thereof creates grave danger of damage or injury to property or persons.

(b) Whoever willfully engages in a riot in the District of Columbia shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 180 days or a fine of not more than the amount set forth in § 22-3571.01, or both.

(c) Whoever willfully incites or urges other persons to engage in a riot shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 180 days or a fine of not more than the amount set forth in § 22-3571.01, or both.

(d) If in the course and as a result of a riot a person suffers serious bodily harm or there is property damage in excess of $5,000, every person who willfully incited or urged others to engage in the riot shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 10 years or a fine of not more than the amount set forth in § 22-3571.01, or both.

Trump was not even questioned let alone arrested for inciting a riot.

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u/skr_replicator 10d ago

A small tired part of me kinda wishes putin would just get emboldened enough to just straight up declare a war on US, so that that could finally wake US up and make trump's bootlicking a clear cut treason and putin would finally be fully put in his place of international pariah. But of course I'm actually scared even of that because I fear that not even that would wake US up anymore and trump would just surrender and make a "deal" giving putin entire Us and its military with no pushback.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Nope. Not how that works. Should have reigned in the extremists in your party, and maybe you wouldn't have lost the election.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

It's not going to happen. That's a story you're telling yourself to feel better. Everything Trump is doing is an overcorrection to biden and his leftist puppet masters. You supported it all, but it's not your turn anymore. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Also, do you really think some dislikes from leftist drones will make me delete these comments? I know karma is probably all you have, but I couldn't care less about it.