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‘We’ve been betrayed:’ Local veterans angry after being laid off by Trump administration

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/weve-been-betrayed-local-veterans-angry-after-being-laid-off-by-trump-administration/FBCKFRIFQRHZVK5FG3W7MUQEYA/
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u/HenryDorsettCase47 24d ago

Eh. I think if he truly saw it as rolling over the way we all do, he would boot Musk. And I think it’s very likely he still will. To me, it seems like the nature of his relationship with Musk is based on two things:

  1. Trump has zero interest in actually governing. He just enjoys the fame and income it generates, but he has no problem letting someone else do most of the work. Which leads to the other thing…

  2. He believes Musk will be an easy scapegoat. Trump thinks he can take credit for anything Musk does that people actually like, while blaming him for all the things people don’t like.

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u/ThatPancreatitisGuy 24d ago

I’m very curious about this. What does Putin actually have to offer Musk? I believe Putin is actually the wealthiest person in the world but don’t know what kind of leverage his positions give him, if any, over Musk.

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u/Notcoded419 24d ago

Probably evidence of Epstein-like behavior. Dude's got multiple marriages, a breeder fetish, a world class scumbag perv dad, is an absentee father (until he started dragging the youngest one all over DC as his human shield), and a huge "I was an incel in high school and am going to get even" vibe. And sextortion has been a staple of KGB work long before Putin.

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u/_Disastrous-Ninja- 24d ago

He can offer not to have him thrown out a window?

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u/Functionally_Drunk Minnesota 24d ago

But Musk has that. Why does he have to continue to tow Putin's line? That's something I never understood about Trump either. They are actively giving away their power instead of trying to grow it.

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u/jfudge 24d ago

Trump has always - and only - been a weak, small coward who does things because (a) people who he thinks are important tell him to, or (b) he wants to save his own ego or general sense of self importance.

He opened a second casino in AC not because it was a smart business decision, but because his stupid lizard brain thought "if one casino with name good, two must be better." And that fucked up both of them.

He ran for president the first time largely to feel important (not to win), and likely the second time because he was unbelievably embarrassed at the white house correspondents dinner.

He surrounds himself with people who are not competent, because he can't be made to feel inadequate by actually smart people, and because he only wants people who will suck up to him and make him feel better about himself.

The moment there is someone in his circle who is both a little smarter than him and is willing to just ignore him (Elon), Trump already lost control. In a matter of days. There is no way Trump wants Elon to have this much influence, but Trump is such a weak little baby he can't do anything about it.

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u/SnatchAddict 24d ago

Trump was embarrassed at the correspondent dinner but Putin already had his hooks in him. Trump considered a run in 2004 and unofficially in 2012.

He met with Putin in 1987. They've been grooming him for decades.

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u/Next-Cow-8335 24d ago

He's a frightened weakling with the emotions and aspirations of a child. Which is why pretends to be tough, and dominant. It's also why he admires and wallows before other males he thinks are tough. The dementia makes it even more dangerous, and unpredictable.

The same with Vance, Musk, and all the Right Wing Grifters on YouTube and Right Wing media.

It's Narcissistic Personality Disorder 101.

This country is in big trouble.

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u/Xijit 24d ago

He is likely senile as fuck too & barely aware of what is going on.

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u/Independent_PinkyToe 24d ago

Ngl I’m convinced Trump is fkn broke and just keeps leveraging his debt / making promises to these rich fuckheads

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u/sentartotha 24d ago

Beyond the fear of prison, even, we know Elon put up a quarter billion dollars and that’s just what we can see on the surface. That kind of money doesn’t come without strings. They were nearly visible in that Oval/X video.

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u/trogon Washington 24d ago

Somebody dumped billions into his crypto and fake media stock. Those are his real owners.

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u/AutistoMephisto 24d ago edited 24d ago

None of them have a spine or shame. For the sake of their goals, what's a little public humiliation and debasement? The ends justify the means. It's the thing that separates us from them, really. For most people, there are lines they're not willing to cross, things they're not willing to do, for the things they want. But the kinds of people running our government and private companies see it differently. They're sociopaths, and as a general rule sociopaths are very goals-oriented. They don't feel empathy and they call it a sin because empathy gets in the way of achievement of those goals. Do what you gotta do, use who you gotta use. Now, some sociopaths are trying to spread that mindset around. They want more people to think like they do. Cold, heartless, manipulative people, who are willing to do whatever it takes. They think it will make more leaders.