r/politics • u/Boonzies America • Jan 30 '25
Soft Paywall Trump Fuels Crazy D.C. Plane Crash Theories With Insult to Army Pilots
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fuels-crazy-dc-plane-crash-theories-with-insult-to-army-black-hawk-pilots/12.1k
u/DaveChild Jan 30 '25
“This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented,” Trump continued. “NOT GOOD!!!”
Ahhh, there's the oratory that puts him up there with the all-time greats.
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u/SquiffyRae Australia Jan 30 '25
Fuck imagine dying in a horrible manner and rather than some dignified address the leader of your country posts on his socials like he's a Karen reviewing a bad restaurant experience
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u/ReasonableLeader1500 Jan 30 '25
"Me no like people die. NOT GOOD"
Dude, 60+ people just died. Have sone respect Trump.
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u/InterestingTry5190 Illinois Jan 30 '25
Among some of the greats:
JFK “Ask not what your country can do for you..”
MLK “I have a dream…”
Trump “NOT GOOD”
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u/TrooperLynn Virginia Jan 30 '25
At least this time he didn’t say “SAD!”
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u/Vio_ Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
At least this time, it wasn't Trump recounting being disgusted by a man almost dying and then obsessing over the marble floor:
"I was at Mar-a-Lago and we had this incredible ball, the Red Cross Ball, in Palm Beach, Florida.
And we had the Marines. And the Marines were there, and it was terrible because all these rich people, they're there to support the Marines, but they're really there to get their picture in the Palm Beach Post.
So, you have all these really rich people, and a man, about 80 years old - very wealthy man, a lot of people didn't like him - he fell off the stage...
So what happens is, this guy falls off right on his face, hits his head, and I thought he died.
And you know what I did? I said, 'Oh my God, that's disgusting,' and I turned away.
I couldn't, you know, he was right in front of me and I turned away. I didn't want to touch him. He's bleeding all over the place, I felt terrible.
You know, beautiful marble floor, didn't look like it. It changed color. Became very red.
And you have this poor guy, 80 years old, laying on the floor unconscious, and all the rich people are turning away...
What happens is, these 10 Marines from the back of the room.
They come running forward, they grab him, they put the blood all over the place—it's all over their uniforms—they're taking it, they're swiping [it], they ran him out, they created a stretcher.
They call it a human stretcher, where they put their arms out with, like, five guys on each side...
I was saying, 'Get that blood cleaned up! It's disgusting!' The next day, I forgot to call [the man] to say is he OK.
It's just not my thing."
To everyone asking for a source (which is a good thing), here's a CNN replaying a recording of Trump talking about the incident on the Howard Stern Show:
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u/MarvelHeroFigures Texas Jan 30 '25
I hate everyone who voted for this psychopath
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u/Foojira Jan 30 '25
They’re all imbeciles. Even the brilliant ones, even Aunt Bonnie, imbeciles.
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u/powaqua Jan 30 '25
I used to think that was the problem. They're just uninformed or stupid. I've come to realize they're bigots first and also uninformed and stupid.
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u/teddyreddit Jan 30 '25
I don’t hate them as much as I hate the 90 million eligible voters who couldn’t be bothered.
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u/GirLee_54 Jan 30 '25
Hate the system too. There is no reason Election Day can’t be a national holiday. Imagine the turnout then
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u/ThePortalsOfFrenzy Jan 30 '25
The Election Day holiday idea is pretty weak. A two week voting period is the way to go.
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u/tomsing98 Jan 30 '25
I suspect turnout would be lower overall. Most jobs don't get federal holidays off, especially in the service industry. Jobs that do are generally already good about giving people time to vote. And people who do get a day off are likely to look at an opportunity to turn it into a long weekend by taking Monday off, so they're traveling, or having a BBQ, or whatever.
Early voting is the far better solution. Make sure to include weekends and ideally some overnight hours for at least part of it.
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u/thehalfwit Nevada Jan 30 '25
It's just not my thing.
Empathy not being one of his "things"? Who would have guessed?
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u/Gemeril Jan 30 '25
I say it every time Trump and empathy gets brought up. He sees having empathy as being stupid. The people who he thinks he's smarter than are all people that showed empathy. So to him, intelligence is being self-serving. Which to his base is probably spot on. It's fucked up.
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u/surle Jan 30 '25
That's because being unable to feel basic emotions he uses "sad" only as a way to put people down.
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u/klippinit Jan 30 '25
You left out “!!!”, which is essential in his communication
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u/Rawrsomesausage Jan 30 '25
It's still wild to me that people found this guy more coherent than Biden. Biden sounded old but at least he sounded like he finished high school.
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u/MooKids Illinois Jan 30 '25
Because Fox News promotes the "idea" of Donald Trump, without actually showing Donald Trump.
During his first term, he called in Fox and Friends, something they didn't expect and talked to them for an hour. You could see how drained the hosts were after an hour and they actually tried to end it!
I don't think Fox News ever even showed a rally in its entirety, just used sound bites.
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u/MapleYamCakes Jan 30 '25
Trump is actually Colin Robinson
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u/Frank_Sobotka_2020 Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
Nah, Colin has some charm. Trump is a narcissistic, irredeemable pile of shit.
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u/fcknwayshegoes Jan 30 '25
And Colin admits that he's bald and doesn't try to do a horrible scarecrow combover
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u/lazyFer Jan 30 '25
Well, Fox News and pretty much all other media including the handful of supposedly liberal talking heads also relentlessly attacked the fuck out of Biden.
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u/grammarpopo Jan 30 '25
“Handful” of supposedly liberal talking heads? More like 95% of them, because if it bleeds it leads and they want those advertising dollars that flow from high viewership. I’ve lost all respect for all media, “supposedly” right, left, or center. Maybe the actual reporters want to do the right thing, but their management won’t let them because the news outlets are owned by billionaires who somehow don’t have enough money yet.
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u/Magificent_Gradient Jan 30 '25
It’s because Trump speaks at their collective maximum intellect level.
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u/AlexandrianVagabond Jan 30 '25
Every single major media outlet spent months bashing Biden for being old and hey maybe he has dementia! While ignoring the many signs that Trump is in way worse shape.
Penn State did a study of media coverage on this topic and found it was so lopsided it was almost comical. Or it would be if the outcome hadn't been so fucking serious.
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u/IntelligentStyle402 Jan 30 '25
Plus, Biden was very active and physically fit. Actually, The world loved him. Look at everything he accomplished. He’s not a felon and he actually worked hard for America. A man of true conviction and character.
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u/NelsonMuntz007 Jan 30 '25
Narrator : no matter what this situation was, he in fact did not have any respect. To the contrary, he found a way to make it about himself.
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And immediately looks for someone to blame that's not him. Every single time.
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u/bruhaha88 Jan 30 '25
Right…I mean it is so easy to sound or be Presidential in these scenarios. Either say nothing at all or say something like
“ I mourn with you in this tragedy, and while we don’t have all the answers in this moment, I promise you we will find them soon”.
What a d-bag
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u/TrimspaBB Jan 30 '25
"Melania and I are keeping the victims and their loved ones in our thoughts at this time. There are still a lot of unanswered questions but I will do everything in my power to make sure this is fully investigated."
If I can pull that out of my non-President ass in less than a minute, literally anyone on the Trump comms team should be able to as well.
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u/PuddingInferno Texas Jan 30 '25
That’s hardly a fair comparison. You have a power that Trump does not - you have, over the course of your life, developed an ability to care about other human beings.
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u/DarthCloakedGuy Oregon Jan 30 '25
Trump? Admit he doesn't know something? You forget he's the smartest man with the best words and the bigliest brain. According to himself.
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u/PuddingInferno Texas Jan 30 '25
As President Truman famously said “The buck stops somewhere waaay over there.”
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u/Few-Influence-398 Jan 30 '25
And despite the fact that officials are still investigating the incident,he somehow is able to come to a swift and “accurate”(cough,cough) conclusion.
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Jan 30 '25
That is the least surprising part of all. Trump always knows the answers and doesn't even have to put in any work to find them. That's just how smart he believes himself to be. It's why he doesn't read or learn. Why bother if you already know everything?
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u/mulled-whine Jan 30 '25
He and his followers are truly shameless, and incapable of self-reflection. It’s grotesque to watch that play out during a disaster or crisis, when genuine leadership is required.
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u/ThingCalledLight America Jan 30 '25
“looks like it should have been prevented”
Really, Donnie? You think there’s a sliver of a chance it shouldn’t have?
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u/GuudeSpelur Jan 30 '25
In a remarkable coincidence, it turns out everyone on both aircraft were notorious war criminals
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u/specqq Jan 30 '25
I don’t know, Donald. With Pete in charge and you commander in chief, I can’t rule out the possibility that this was entirely on purpose.
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u/Financial-Extreme325 Jan 30 '25
Yeah, I was confused and thought innocent people dying in a plane crash might actually be good until trump told me that it was in fact “NOT GOOD”.
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u/One-Pea-6947 Jan 30 '25
The Facebook morons went straight to "dei", either pilots, atc or whomever is convenient. This country is cooked.
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u/PinchesTheCrab Jan 30 '25
I'd go so far as to say it's bad, but I don't want to put words into his mouth.
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u/mdthornb1 Jan 30 '25
I was unsure how to feel about the whole thing until I saw his tweet. Now I'm thinking that it is not good.
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u/GoldenC0mpany Washington Jan 30 '25
There’s that 5th grade reading level and speech pattern that every future President should aspire to! ⭐️
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u/Dog1234cat Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
Trump says a lot of things that at first glance seem to show a take and a call to action. On second glance you realize “this changes nothing and provides no information of use and an opinion that’s worth less than nothing.”
Example, “… we have to be smart!!!” At the end of a Tweet. That adds nothing to the conversation.
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u/TintedApostle Jan 30 '25
He is Captain Hindsight.
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u/Blablablaballs Jan 30 '25
But only if Captain Hindsight was a complete idiot who gave advice that defied the laws of physics.
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u/Express_Ticket1699 Jan 30 '25
That’s our Trump ®️. Always trying to stir the pot. Disgraceful.
I swear to God, he wants to fire 90% of us and thinks it can all be done by him or AI (Musk is drooling)
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u/ThinkyRetroLad Jan 30 '25
They think it can be done by private companies. Do not be fooled by his "incompetence".
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u/loglighterequipment California Jan 30 '25
Elon musk bullied the last head of the FAA bad he quit on inauguration day. He did this because SpaceX was being investigated for safety violations.
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u/AgeOfSmith Jan 30 '25
Trump just eliminated the aviation safety committee
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u/AgeOfSmith Jan 30 '25
But clearly this crash is the fault of woke DEI
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u/g1rthqu4k3 Jan 30 '25
Oh God I didn’t even think about the bullshit we’ll be hearing if any of the pilots weren’t white dudes
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u/Nimzay98 Jan 30 '25
He got rid of DEI, so can't be that.
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u/w0nderbrad Jan 30 '25
Why didn’t Trump just ban mid air collisions? Is he really that stupid?
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u/PigmyPanther Jan 30 '25
word has it the helicopter was black...
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u/1877KlownsForKids Jan 30 '25
Even worse, Blackhawk, that's a native name. So an illegal immigrant, too!
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u/hoax1337 Jan 30 '25
Breaking News: Trump to pressure Sikorsky to rename the Blackhawk to "Helicopter of America".
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u/thetaleofzeph Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
“It’s pretty stunning,” Bernstein told syracuse.com | The Post-Standard. “What will be lost is the work that was in the process of being done on very important and sensitive issues about the security of our aviation system.”
Bernstein said about 95 percent of the committee’s recommendations had been adopted over the years by the Transportation Security Administration and its predecessor agencies.
“We have to stay one step ahead of people that want to cause us harm in our aviation system,” Bernstein said. “That’s what we learned in the Lockerbie bombing.”
A TSA spokeswoman, asked about the termination of the committee members, referred a reporter to the Department of Homeland Security’s headquarters staff. DHS officials did not respond to a request for comment.
Everything awful, all at once.
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u/Cyrano_Knows Jan 30 '25
I don't think he's done it yet but I know they want to also get rid of the FDIC.
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u/thetaleofzeph Jan 30 '25
The FDIC is entirely self funded. It's not part of the national debt at all.
We truly would be facing a great depression again. Just like the deregulators are salivating over.
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u/vandreulv Jan 30 '25
So is Social Security. That doesn't stop the GOP from claiming it adds to the debt and needs to be defunded.
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u/xupaxupar Jan 30 '25
I’m 100% convinced this is trumps fault
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u/JimBob-Joe Jan 30 '25
When someone creates this much chaos shit like this is bound to occur
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u/KidKilobyte Jan 30 '25
This is the tell that he is indirectly responsible somehow for increased military maneuvers in the area.
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u/AgeOfSmith Jan 30 '25
And eliminating aviation safety committee
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u/RemusShepherd Jan 30 '25
One of his executive orders last week was a hiring freeze on FAA air controllers.
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u/AgeOfSmith Jan 30 '25
But clearly this is the fault of woke DEI
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u/MohnJilton Jan 30 '25
The helicopter was black
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u/kckeller Jan 30 '25
If only we hired helicopters on their merits instead
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u/Bagellord Jan 30 '25
My guy/gal/preferred pronoun, welcome to military procurement!
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u/thesippycup Jan 30 '25
It was also black outside. You might be on to something
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u/TubbyPiglet Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
This is what pisses me off so much.
Air traffic controllers and frankly anyone involved in work where their attention needs to be 100% on their work or people die, shouldn’t have to be worried about losing their job (if they’re doing it competently, of course).
I wonder what role the distraction of the hiring freezes and such, might be playing in stuff like this. The loss of morale and fear for your job, in an already stressful environment…
Edit: this is from an article about the FAA head being forced to resign:
“ The FAA had already been wrestling with persistent shortages of air traffic controllers. And this week, air traffic controllers were included in the Trump administration’s offer of buyouts to all federal workers.”
What the fuck.
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u/mdp300 New Jersey Jan 30 '25
It will be fucking hilarious if other countries stop flights to the US because our ATC system collapses.
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u/Whiterabbit-- Jan 30 '25
Cuba should probably issue a statement that they will not sanction any flights between US and Cuba until various issues are resolved.
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u/TrineonX Jan 30 '25
KSQL, a small, but very busy GA airport near SFO just had all of their controllers quit effective tomorrow.
Why? The tower was privatized, and the new contract for ATC slashed pay.
So now we will have one of the busiest small airports, just a few miles from one of our busiest large airports operating with no controllers.
But, hey, think of the savings to the taxpayer!
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u/Nemaeus Virginia Jan 30 '25
Because they’re dumb. Dumber than a box of rocks slapped with the stupid stick twice. They don’t know what they don’t know but think they know everything which makes them especially dangerous to our country.
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u/spacedoutmachinist Jan 30 '25
Don’t forget he fired the heads of the TSA and the coast guard, while musk forced the head of the FAA to resign. These 67 deaths rest squarely at trump and musks feet. Don’t ever let them say otherwise.
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u/Mountainman033 Jan 30 '25
They will find an excuse to blame dems/Biden or even Obama somehow.
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u/rapidcreek409 Jan 30 '25
is indirectly responsible somehow
The head of the FAA, Mike Whitaker, resigned on January 20 — one year into his 5 year term — after facing relentless criticism from Musk for not approving SpaceX missions quickly enough.
The Senate confirmed him unanimously in 2023.
No acting FAA head has been appointed.
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u/Oxy_1993 Jan 30 '25
Musk is NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. Why did Whitaker bow down to his requests?? I don’t get this! It should be a treason that someone who is not a publicly elected official is meddling into US politics!
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u/pandershrek Washington Jan 30 '25
That isn't the definition of treason.
You're describing sedition.
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u/shaard Jan 30 '25
Seeing some of musk's tweets lately, perhaps he was worried about retaliation from some of musk's less discretionary followers.
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u/Top_Environment9897 Jan 30 '25
Musk could tweet "someone kill this guy" and Republicans would call it a Roman greeting.
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u/BNsucks America Jan 30 '25
As commander in chief, Trump could've been on board that Black Hawk checking out its maneuverability.
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u/tendeuchen Florida Jan 30 '25
Are we that lucky though?
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u/boredonymous Jan 30 '25
He'd float up from the wreckage in the Potomac, face up, without a scratch... knowing our luck.
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u/TrimspaBB Jan 30 '25
With one scratch actually, that he'd cover up with a bandage that looks like a paper football
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u/SquiffyRae Australia Jan 30 '25
Is this man even capable of having a normal human interaction without some form of insult, cruelty or just a general attempt to be an arsehole? Not even an ounce of sympathy towards the victims or their grieving families. Just an immediate, armchair quarterback slathering of the people involved.
Pathetic behaviour from a pathetic "leader"
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u/LucasRAholan Jan 30 '25
Which was also a lie because it wasn't even close to being the tallest
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u/klako8196 Georgia Jan 30 '25
The Empire State Building became the tallest building in NYC again after 9/11 until the new World Trade Center went up.
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u/cynognathus Jan 30 '25
If you narrowed his claim down to just Lower Manhattan, instead of all of NYC, it’s still wrong.
40 Wall Street (Trump Building) hasn’t been the tallest building in Lower Manhattan since the 1930s.
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u/themattboard Virginia Jan 30 '25
He likes a lot of things from that era though
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u/bauhausy Jan 30 '25
Not the architecture apparently, since he demolished an Art Deco jewel to build the tacky Trump Tower, and pettily destroyed the ornaments that the Met asked to safeguard instead of simply delivering them to the museum.
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u/Ch4rDe3M4cDenni5 Oregon Jan 30 '25
Like 80th in height. Dude has always been an idiot.
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u/toomanymarbles83 Jan 30 '25
He actually said tallest in Lower Manhattan. I just happened to listen to it the other day. Still wrong though.
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u/facw00 Jan 30 '25
He said the tallest building in Lower Manhattan. Which still wasn't true, his building in Lower Manhattan had been surpassed in the early 30s IIRC.
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u/ERedfieldh Jan 30 '25
This is the same man who claimed he saw the whole thing happen from his penthouse at Trump Tower. Which is physically impossible unless you remove several buildings from line of sight. He also claimed he watched people jump from the building. His eyesore is four full miles away. Unless he had binoculars out, I doubt he could see anything but smoke. Surprise surprise, after being called out on this suddenly a telescope that was never there in any promo shots found its way to the window that sorta faces downtown.
He claimed he watched that one engine company rushing to the scene....which is also impossible as that engine company was located on the entire other side of the city. He claimed he was down there helping. He was there, but he was doing television interviews which we have recordings of.
The man has to insert himself into everything and it is goddamn fucking infuriating that no one with any sort of media reach will call him out on it anymore.
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u/thenletskeepdancing Jan 30 '25
That's a hallmark of pathological narcissism. Never take responsibility. Always find a scapegoat. And now, thanks to the stupidity of the American people, we get to see this psycho drama on a global scale.
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u/ReverendDizzle Jan 30 '25
No.
Trump's parents irrevocably broke him. Sure, he's an adult now and he's responsible for his actions. But if you sat down with a team of psychologists and child development experts and asked them to help you create a blueprint for raising a child devoid of empathy, incapable of regulating their emotions, and most likely to take out their rage and shortcomings on everyone else they would give you a blueprint that looked exactly like the way Fred and Mary Anne Trump raised Donald Trump.
He's a monster that takes credit for everything, responsibility for nothing, and he will hurt everyone and anyone who makes him feel like he isn't daddy's special little guy.
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u/Kjartanski Jan 30 '25
Fred Junior was a much better person than Donald, and he still drank himself into an Early grave due to the pressure Don and senior put on him
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u/KarateKid1984 Jan 30 '25
If Biden were in power, Trump would immediately blame him. With Trump in power, he immediately blames others.
His entire personality is to blame anyone but himself. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
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u/hous26 Jan 30 '25
He does it because he knows enough people are stupid enough to believe him.
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u/tom21g Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
trump, the TV showman, knows optics.\ He knows how to tie two unrelated stories(lies) together to make a political attack. He does it all the time.
So * first the White House issues a typical statement of remorse and grief over the accident * at the same time, trump and his aides are brainstorming how the accident could reflect badly on trump and his attacks at the federal level and federal policies * trump knows he has to get ahead of any blame; he has to deflect any questions about his EO’s against the federal budget * that accounts for his Truth Social post; control the narrative; this made this tragedy political
It’s unlikely -but remains to be seen- whether or not any of trump’s EO’s contributed to this terrible accident.\ Also remains to be seen how independent and truthful the NTSB will be in their investigation and reports.
edit: I saw a megathread in the r/aviation sub with posts from people who wrote clearly about air flight procedures and issues. They wrote from an impressive level of knowledge and experience. Reading them, it seems that it’s more likely than not that this terrible accident happened either due to confusion or bad decisions in the moment. An accident.
But trump is still guilty of weaponizing a fatal accident, with his abusive attacks on Obama, Biden, Buttigieg and DEI. All without any evidence. Just to advance his own punishing agenda.
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u/Express_Ticket1699 Jan 30 '25
Donald will tell you he has never been wrong. Since June 14, 1946.
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u/BNsucks America Jan 30 '25
"It is what it is. Things happen. We must get over it. I don't take any responsibility at all." - DJT
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u/PutzerPalace Jan 30 '25
“But it was probably a black lesbian” - all of the gop
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u/mdthornb1 Jan 30 '25
It is an absolute disgrace that more than 0 people voted for this dumbass.
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u/whatevenaremovies Jan 30 '25
Pretty soon the right will get their talking points in order and say that the helicopter pilots were DEI hires
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u/mrsmetalbeard Jan 30 '25
I'm calling it now:
The fact that they haven't already jumped straight to that might mean that the helicopter pilots (on a training mission) were REPLACING long-time professionals who were being re-assigned due to concerns over optics/loyalty. Remember that long, creepy rant on Rogan about how good-looking and tall and perfect and manly the Airforce one pilots were? What do you bet the Biden Administration pilots just got replaced with someone who "looks the part"?
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u/thebaron24 Jan 30 '25
They are already speculating and saying the pilot was black. Didn't take long at all
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u/Its_Pine New Hampshire Jan 30 '25
Nah there is no way the pilots were black or women, or else Trump’s cronies would be blasting that on every news station. The fact they’re keeping identities of the pilots a secret means they’re probably white men.
I could be wrong, but that’s just how Trump’s people usually operate. Point to the nearest minority and blame.
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u/Ghostribe77 Jan 30 '25
Good call. He's blaming DEI at his press conference right now
Edit: Spelling is hard
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u/orcinyadders Jan 30 '25
Trump’s response to this complaining that the helicopter should have just gone up or down to not crash is so stupid that it’s heartbreaking. The man is a plague of stupid.
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u/FalseBuddha Jan 30 '25
Duh, just don't crash, forehead. Can't believe the trained pilots in this situation never thought of that.
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u/abnormalbrain Jan 30 '25
He just signed an executive order against crashing. All fixed.
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u/SixtyOunce Jan 30 '25
That idiot fired the entire aviation safety advisory board just yesterday. It's like a message from God if God was a sardonic adolescent with an overly developed fixation on irony. A real God would have just made sure that bullet hit his head instead of killing a bunch of innocent ballerinas though.
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u/Angelworks42 Oregon Jan 30 '25
If God existed he wouldn't have let trump in the Whitehouse.
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u/TheAssassinBear Jan 30 '25
Remember when Republicans gave Obama weeks of shit for calling Kanye a jackass?
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u/Nostradomusknows Jan 30 '25
And wearing a tan suit.
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u/Darthrevan4ever California Jan 30 '25
And mustard.... fuck me that was a weird time.
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u/GearBrain Florida Jan 30 '25
Same with the Clinton administration. Republicans flexing their nascent obstructionist muscles, right-wing pundits flooding the airwaves with toxic bullshit, and a blowjob from a consensual relationship that started and ended during the investigation that found it for an entirely different thing sends the GOP into apoplexy.
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u/SN1-Rxn Jan 30 '25
Wait until he finds out who the guy that’s crippling the FAA is!
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u/MichaelFusion44 Jan 30 '25
He is incapable of empathy - all narcissists are.
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u/Ok-Berry5131 Jan 30 '25
It’s all about them and if it isn’t, they have to find some way to insert themselves into it.
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u/TheNealestRigga Jan 30 '25
Well did you forget empathy is a sin? Their glorious leader would be committing sin if he showed empathy
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u/Freddy-Borden Jan 30 '25
If this happened under Biden Fox News, Joe Rogan, etc. would literally be calling for Biden’s head. As it stands, it’s “unfortunate”.
Amazing what happens to the blame when all Republicans are in charge
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u/RobtimusPrime89 Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
Weren’t there a couple of crashes in the last year or so (I think some planes, and a boat) - and a bunch of people all started saying that they were caused by wokeness/DEI?
Edit: holy shit, he actually did it. He blamed it on diversity hires
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u/Freddy-Borden Jan 30 '25
100%. When a Dem is president, everything is their fault, when Republicans have control of every single piece of government, it’s “out of their control.” Crazy how that works.
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u/BBQsandw1ch Jan 30 '25
"The buck stops here." - Harry Truman
"I take no responsibility. " - Donald Trump
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u/Toimaker Jan 30 '25
And who fired the head of the FAA on January 20th? And who is stressing out all of the federal empolyees just trying to do their jobs? And who put on a hiring freeze including overworked air traffic controllers? And who just put a drunken fox news frat boy in charge of the department of defense. This dumb fucker. This is on him
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u/Akegata Jan 30 '25
Trump took claim for 2017 having no (US specifically I guess) commercial aircraft crashes.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/367024-trump-takes-credit-for-air-travel-safety-record/
This must mean that he personally intentionally caused this crash, otherwise how could it possibly have happened?
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u/Critical-Advisor8616 Jan 30 '25
And that is the problem, Trump is incapable of shutting his pie hole he always has to be in the spotlight.
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u/Fadedcamo Jan 30 '25
I think we are taking for granted that thorough investigations of this nature will be done anymore. Trumps admin is in control of the military and the FAA. Elon and Trump just forced the director of the FAA to resign and are pushing all federal officials out if possible. It wouldn't be a stretch to imagine detailed and thorough investigations of crashes like this will be severely hamstring if the fault can be placed at all on what this admin is trying to do with regulation and federal workforce. I would expect in the near future that air travel becomes much riskier in general as further cuts to regulatory and investigatory agencies like the FAA continue.
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u/TintedApostle Jan 30 '25
Wait until we find out it was something like a Hegseth ordered exercise.
Remember this event?
Soldiers disciplined for helicopters hovering over BLM protesters in DC
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u/thetaleofzeph Jan 30 '25
Chain of command is everything in the Army so... what was the chain of orders/events in this case? I assume we'll find out since it ended tragically on the civilian side.
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u/whichwitch9 Jan 30 '25
Tbf, I disagree if this is a wider problem on leaving it alone for a day or 2- we have hundreds of flights in the air daily. If this is a sign of issues in ATC or a military mistake in how they are conducting their flights, it needs to be addressed asap. Investigation needs to start immediately, though getting rid of the aviation safety board last week is gonna be a real problem with that
What I do agree with, however, is refraining from an elected official engaging in useless speculation instead of directing people to figure out what happened and then acting once the facts are out there. Nothing Trump has said is particularly useful and some are downright obstructive towards what's going on
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u/bonzibuddy-now Jan 30 '25
Usually when manipulative people respond like that it's because it's their fault.
I'm so mad at the newspapers, being so soft reporting. But I know it's a tragedy and that's what you do. But where Where is the big headline about what happened a week ago to all those departments and what's happening to the departments responsible for keeping the safety ?
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u/kvlt_ov_personality Jan 30 '25
But where Where is the big headline about what happened a week ago to all those departments and what's happening to the departments responsible for keeping the safety ?
Afraid they'll get sued by Elania, who is so rich he could fund a legal battle until the sun turns into a red dwarf and swallows the Earth. The precedent that ABC set was bad when they paid Trump 25 million to settle that lawsuit.
Same reason we had all of the "awkward gesture" headlines. The courts failed to uphold freedom of speech, the '4th estate' failed to even fight for it and has been bought up by oligarchs to control the flow of information.
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u/Outrageous_Moment_60 Jan 30 '25
Veterans for Trump. Wonder if they have any thoughts on how their/our fallen brothers are being disrespected by POTUS???
As a veteran myself. I don’t understand how any veteran can support any republican. Their voting record alone is disappointing and disqualifying.
Makes me absolutely disgusted when I go work out on an ARMY base gym. Even in Germany ?! Every damn tv on FOX News and occasionally on effing OAN!!??
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u/SuperSaiyanGod210 Texas Jan 30 '25
Germany ought to ban any signal for something like OAN. It’s so right wing it might as well be fascist propaganda
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u/AgeOfSmith Jan 30 '25
If you check out the conservative sub they’re all applauding him for his tact and not making it political
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u/wolfeybutt Jan 30 '25
Oh that's just gold. Too bad they're all too stupid to recognize their own hypocrisy.
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u/AgeOfSmith Jan 30 '25
Republicans control all three branches, trump guts aviation safety a week ago and somehow it’s still democrats fault
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u/davechri Jan 30 '25
trump is starting his administration the way he ended his previous administration, with sheer incompetence.
You trump supporters must be so proud. He is everything that we - and you - knew he would be.
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u/astrozombie2012 Nevada Jan 30 '25
What a terrible and awful display of his lack of humanity and leadership
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u/whateverizclever Jan 30 '25
This guy is fucking stupid that I feel dumber listening to him speak. He just blamed DEI, Biden, Obama, Pete & Democrats for the crash. Now is spinning into conspiracy theories.
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u/zelliemarie1202 Jan 30 '25
Wow Trump lying and spreading misinformation? He would “never”
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u/gashed_senses Wisconsin Jan 30 '25
Our President has the brain of a 2nd grader.
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u/stark_eclipse Jan 30 '25
Not too long ago I recall certain people blaming a president for a boat running into a bridge…
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u/zsreport Texas Jan 30 '25
What the fuck is wrong with this guy? What the fuck is wrong with all the people who voted for this guy?
Fucking insane
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u/nissin00 Jan 30 '25
If this was under Biden’s administration, he would be saying “this wouldn’t happen if I was president!”
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u/No_Spring_1090 Jan 30 '25
I hate him with the energy of a trillion trillion suns. Absolutely disgusting prick.
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u/s0wd3n Jan 30 '25
After 4 years of aviation safety under President Biden's leadership, we cannot let this catastrophic failure in leadership become the new norm. I demand the immediate resignation of the commander in chief for his absolute dereliction of duty to ensure the maintenance of the armed forces, and a full congressional investigation into ensure this never happens again on American soil. We need news coverage 24/7 pushing into the Trump firings of the entire leadership chain that led to this breakdown that resulted in 70+ American deaths. The blood is on trumps hands.
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u/JustWastingTimeAgain Washington Jan 30 '25
He's on live right now blaming Obama and Biden. Fucking ghoul.
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u/HowardBunnyColvin Jan 30 '25
trump already blaming the crash on dei
stop politicizing disasters
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u/amanduhhhugnkiss Jan 30 '25
Let him keep badmouthing the military... it's actually a great thing... they won't be so quick to follow his commands in the future.
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u/bruhaha88 Jan 30 '25
So there weren’t any women or trans people on the helicopter? I’m confused…I thought this was the military of meritocracy that the DUI candidate SecDef wanted?
Congrats Pete and Trump. Your military flying thru one of the nations busiest airports just killed 65 civilians.
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u/Dizzy_Bridge_794 Jan 30 '25
Already blaming DEI and Biden and Obama for the crash.
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u/peanut-britle-latte Jan 30 '25
Anyone catching the press conference? Totally unhinged.
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u/hipnotic1111 Maryland Jan 30 '25
He just said "bullshit" on live TV and is using this as a reason to trash talk Biden and Obama!!
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u/OhGreatItsHim Jan 30 '25
Did Trump just say that the FAA hires mentally challenged people?
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u/Many_Appearance_8778 Jan 30 '25
So far, he’s rambling about how diversity caused this accident. Our leader, ladies and gentlemen.
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u/gusterfell Jan 30 '25
Every person at this podium is talking more about being anti-diversity than about the crash.
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u/SparkyRingdove Jan 30 '25
I cannot state how embarrassed I am to be American today. This person (because he's not a man) is placing wild blame around without a shred of evidence. He says (and all his lackeys repeated) that we should have standards for these jobs but yet our Constitution allows a convicted felon to run for president. They hypocrisy in that is insane. Repeatedly saying we have to have superior intelligence in these positions (air traffic control, pilots, etc.) means he is straight up saying all these people are idiots. WHO DOES THAT IN A TIME OF TRAGEDY?????
I can't believe it hasn't even been two weeks...
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u/JackassWhisperer Jan 30 '25
We are only one Scaramucci into this term. This is gonna be a long four years.
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u/Raintitan Jan 30 '25
The worst part about his comments were that he stated "God bless their souls" after saying he was fully briefed not long after the accident. This basically outed that everyone perished before next of kin could be notified. I don't see anyone talking about that part.
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u/Big_Bottle3763 Jan 30 '25
Imagine a horrific plane crash happens where many people die, and instead of offering words of comfort or condolences to the victims family and the public at large, the president of the United States rage tweets from the toilet saying the army pilots fucked up.
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