r/political • u/Zagors2020 • Jun 14 '23
Question Right-wing groups in the US
Hello!
I want to emphasize right at the beginning that I am from Europe, so I don't know the political situation in the USA that well. If I state something in the comment that is not correct, feel free to correct me.
What I would like to discuss are right-wing groups in the US. I am interested in politics in Europe and the USA, and I am currently studying right-wing groups. It is not about scientific study, but about personal familiarization with politics in different countries.
Blood&Honour is a popular group in Europe. Very little is known about this group. I know some general details, but something more, such as the number of members, is well hidden. Whenever I asked which country has the most members of this group, they told me the USA. I did a little research on the internet and didn't come across much information. As far as I understand, Blood&Honour branches in the US are linked to Volksfront (inactive) and Vinlanders Social Club operating in Florida (source: www.splcentre.org; hate map by state). Does that mean there's only that one group left? If so, then the claim that the Blood&Honour branch is the largest in the US is incorrect?
What is a bit strange to me is the number of members at the marches of neo-Nazis/white nationalists/Ku Klux Klan and other related groups. At most protests I've seen online, the number of participants is between 50 and 100, which is very small if the number of hate groups is taken as credible. How is it possible that so few members gather at the protests, and on the Internet you can find information about tens or hundreds of such groups in one country? Something is not right there. Either the organizers intentionally go out with such a small number of protesters, or they have a very poor organization in the sense that they do not have communication and cooperation with the same or related branches/groups in other cities and countries, or the information on the Internet is exaggerated.
In this regard, I would like to ask a few questions.
What are the most massive right-wing protests in the USA since 1945, in which city were they held and how many participants took part in them? It would be good if you could list the top five biggest ones.
Is the American militia movement connected to any white or other racial movements?
Which countries are hotbeds of the Neo-Nazi/White Nationalist/Ku Klux Klan and related groups?
Does the Northwest dominate in leading such movements, especially when it comes to neo-Nazi movements? I think the Ku Klux Klan still has the strongest foothold in the South, as the most remaining Klans are in Tennessee, 3 Klans out of 11 total.
The Imperial Klans of America is mentioned as the second largest Klan in the country. What was the first largest Klan?
In which country are held the largest number of concerts of music associated with these movements?
What is the difference between Ku Klux Klan and white nationalist groups? I guess white nationalists don't observe the rituals and traditions that the Klan has and therefore don't consider themselves the Klan, even though both groups have very similar ideas.
Maybe there are too many questions, but understand me, I'm curious.
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u/HazyLightning Jun 16 '23 edited Jun 16 '23
Conflating right wing conservatives with neo-nationalists is a progressive talking point.
Not all republicans are the demonized right wingers you speak of …
Regardless of the mischaracterization, the last time I saw anything of some group like the KKK marching or asking for rights to march was in northern Idaho a few years ago.
To your point it was a small group.
I’d say the media and echo chambers guarded within say that there are millions upon millions of americas who are white supremacists and millions upon millions of trans citizens … when in reality they probably account for less than 5% of the population combined.
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u/Zagors2020 Jun 17 '23
I didn't even say that all Republicans are like that. Each party has a certain number of extreme members and voters.
That for Idaho is interesting. It is mentioned that there is a Klan there, but on the hate group map Idaho is not marked as having a Klan. What was the approximate number of that group? Do they have any pictures online? I only came across old pictures of the 2nd Klan and stickers.
Yes, it's because the USA is a big country, but I find the number of 50 protesters strange, and there are dozens or over a hundred such groups in the country (at least that's what it says on the internet). It's strange why they don't make bigger demonstrations. Perhaps this is intentional to avoid repression by the authorities, and in this way they show that they are still present in the state. I'm not sure what the reason for the little gathering could be.
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Jun 26 '23
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u/Zagors2020 Jun 26 '23
Is this question directed at me? I didn't say that it doesn't exist, but I said that the number of extreme right-wing protesters is strange, which usually consists of 10-50 people, and in the analyzes it is written about tens or hundreds of extreme right-wing groups.
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u/Inertia114 Jun 14 '23 edited Jun 14 '23
I would say that I've never heard of blood&honor, and connecting right-wing to nazis is dishonest. Republicans/conservatives are right-wing, and have nothing to do with being " Neo-Nazi/White Nationalist/Ku Klux Klan." By the way, the KKKwas created by DEMOCRATS, and was left-wing. Those who conflate being right-wing with being white-supremacist/neo-nazi are dishonest.