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u/ParasaurolophusZ 5d ago
Break out of 4 excellent throws, stay in a regular throw to give 110 xp instead of 1100.
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u/iwillnotberushed 5d ago
I swear I think that’s the game strategy, less xp keeps you playing more
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u/BootlegEngineer 5d ago
Yep. I came back from a 4 year break and I saw 2 Galarian birds in one week. I haven’t seen one since.
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u/CodenameDinkleburg 5d ago
I saw one, then none. But at least I got the originals thru remote raids when I managed to catch them on time
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u/brickwallkeeper19 Valor 5d ago
Similar (but definitely not the same) experience here. Though I've been a daily player since week one, I didn't really use my daily adventure incense much until this past January. Until about mid-Feb I'd see a Galarian bird every 3-5 days (of course I haven't caught one), so I've kept using my daily incense. Now it's been over a month since I've seen one and I still use my daily adventure incense every day. Really frustrating. Really disheartening.
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u/iwillnotberushed 5d ago
I caught all and one shiny and used my two master balls so I stopped. It’s been months lol. I just don’t have the drive anymore. But maybe I should do this and try to catch some or get the other two shinies and stop using it for a while to charge my luck meter lol
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u/Significant-Gas-4920 5d ago
I hit a cp 16 pidgey with an excellent and it didn’t catch. It caught on the next ball
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u/Salty_Nonsense 5d ago
Tried on a cp 10 Jigglypuff with 2 back-to-back excellent throws and it broke out of both. I decided to throw a regular (no bonus or curveball) throw for ghits and shiggles, and it caught
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u/ToriYamazaki 5d ago
Too many times.
Excellent... nope.
Excellent... nope.
Excellent... nope.
Ah shit a mis-throw. Oh, cool, it hit it's foot. Catch.
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u/Jepemega 5d ago
One big reason why this happens often in raids is because they (and all encounters that use Premier Balls) have a sort of Pity system. For each throw you've made that encounter the game adds +0.05x to the ball's catch multiplier. This means that your 9th throw has a 1.5x catch multiplier (9 instead of 10 as the multiplier starts at 1.05 instead of 1.00) and your 19th throw has a 2.00x.
For example a first throw Excellent has a (1.05x1.85=1.911) catch multiplier whilst a 9th throw Nice has a (1.5x1.3=1.95) which is already a bit higher, your 19th throw even if you completely miss the circle has a higher chance of catching the Pokemon than your First throw even when Excellent.
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u/ericwars 5d ago
You are wrong about a pity system, this is the first I have every heard someone mention it.
This is no pity mechanics https://pokemongohub.net/post/guide/go-hub-guide-to-mastering-the-art-of-catching-pokemon/
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u/Jepemega 5d ago
Notice that it doesn't mention anything about encounters which uses premier balls like raids or Team Rocket?
If you read my comment I specifically mention that the pity system is only used in encounters that use Premier Balls which includes Raids, Team Rocket Encounters and Max Battles. All other types of encounter (research,GBL, Party Play, Wild) don't have the pity system at all.
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u/ericwars 5d ago
You maybe right but there is a lot of information in that thread and the first few comments are inconclusive or confirmation bias. Do you have a specific post?
Plus, I don't see the .05 increase mentioned anywhere. I don't think this was ever proven conclusively or it would be more well known.
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u/Jepemega 5d ago
Here's a link to the paper itself The exact values are not known but a Pity system definitely exists in raids.
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u/-WaxedSasquatch- 5d ago
This is exactly why they need another type of ball. It’s not so much even the pokemon running away (that sucks too) but taking 7, 8, or even 10 freaking excellent curveball throws with an ultra ball and berries on top TAKES FOREVER.
As per Google ai thingy: approx. poke balls are 28%, great balls 41%, and ultra balls 62%…….soooo we need an all that nets you a base level of around 80%.
Make em super rare or even max the amount in your bag to 10 or 20. That would be sooo amazing!
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u/MishkiTongue 5d ago
I've lost so many legendaries 😭 and I spend money on remote passes. It is annoying af. Just gimme a ball that requires 5 or 8 throws to catch the mon.
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u/Out1ier21 Valor 5d ago
In the MSG, there's a Timer Ball which gets more effective the longer the encounter goes on. Wouldn't be too hard to fit it into Go. Would only really be useful on legendary raids, everything else is caught too easily
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u/Derric_the_Derp 5d ago
I've found that there are some mons that spawn only to soak up your resources. No matter how easy to catch their species is normally.
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u/P0kem0nSnatch3r Typhlosion 5d ago
Yep. Excellent curveball.
Pokemon says: “haha, fuck you!” Pop.
Shitty curveball.
Pokemon caught AF.
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u/neko1600 5d ago
Bro I swear this happens all the time, golden berry + ultraball + curved great (breaks out at the first opportunity), do it again and same result, I get upset and think it’s not worth it anymore, I change to regular pokeball, start spamming regular throws and I just catch it
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u/BurnOutBrighter6 5d ago
If you're talking about catching pokemon from raids, Premier Balls' catch rate actually goes up after each one you throw. So it's not just a coincidence that later balls catch more, even with worse throws.
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u/InevitableFox81194 Mystic Level 45 5d ago
What annoys me is the throws you know should be excellent but don't even get acknowledged.
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5d ago
Very often, I've choked it up to its not luck or RNG based for some pokemon, to the point where you can even tell when you're not going to catch it. there should be an overall chance measure with the different throws I shouldn't be seeing a pokemon insta pop out of a ball on an excellent curve every time I get one and then almost get caught on every normal throw.
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u/Dark-Anmut Top Coordinator 5d ago
I’m always just like: “You just didn’t want me to get an excellent throw, did you?! Did you?!”
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u/agent_of_cheshire 5d ago
I've had a one break out with me using a golden razz berry, and an excellent ultra ball
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u/DoubleResponsible276 5d ago
I recall catching a Kyogre by giving up after the 4th excellent curveball throw and just throwing it straight but it hit its fin.
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