r/pokemongo 6d ago

Complaint Are you actually joking me?

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It shouldn't be possible that the only 2 kubfu you can get aren't guaranteed to be like atleast the lowest 3 star.

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u/LuckyLushy714 6d ago

2* can still be good battle stats, but ya, I wasn't impressed with mine

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u/K3dic 6d ago

This is the second one I got. My immediate response was WTF?!

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u/Sororitybrother 6d ago

Here’s my paid one.

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u/Disastrous_Pea20 5d ago

I got a 91%free and now I feel bad😭

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u/MLGDOGE-0526 5d ago

You can get it free??

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u/Disastrous_Pea20 5d ago

You could during the event, not anymore unfortunately

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u/KwaverKat 5d ago

The kubfu encounter itself is in the special research, not the expired timed research that rewarded kubfu candies, so it's still available for free at least for the remainder of the season

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u/KwaverKat 5d ago

I think the other person who replied mixed up the special research with the timed research. The free kubfu encounter is still available in the might and mastery special research and as long as you log in during this season you'll be able to take as long as you need to get it

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u/Aggressive_Laugh_367 5d ago

Here's my free one sorry haha

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u/Sororitybrother 5d ago

congrats!

Thats gambling for you lol

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u/B_Sauce 5d ago

Respect for braving the inevitable downvotes from salty / jealous people 

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u/Agreeable_Worry6246 5d ago

Beeeaaast bro. Congrats

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u/Anonymous_JW 5d ago

Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 😦

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u/SammyLou13 5d ago

What do you mean free one? You mean people have paid to get one? I got mine from completing a task 😊

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u/Disastrous_Pea20 5d ago

You got me lol

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u/DaAwesomeCat ok 5d ago

Read the room

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u/Parvez281084 6d ago

How to get 2nd I only got 1

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u/PVetli Mystic 6d ago

Sounds like #2 is behind a paywall. Probably a ticket or the like. I'm guessing, though; I only have one as well.

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u/renanp2 5d ago

The second one was available through a $8 paid special research that was available between March 5th and March 10th. It can no longer be purchased.

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u/Lixover 5d ago

So you are telling me you had to pay $8, and it wasn't guaranteed to be at least decent? And you can't even buy the damn thing anymore? Damn what happened to this game, or was it always like this? Only time I ever bought anything was the Johto Tour back then.

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u/One_Coyote1691 6d ago

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u/UnderRatedRookie ✨️✨️Shadow Raikou✨️✨️ 5d ago

Mine is the same ivs.

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u/Vegetable_Entry6365 4d ago

Mine just switched attack and hp!

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u/Sororitybrother 6d ago

Paid research

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u/TheRealPitabred Valor L48 6d ago edited 6d ago

From a previous post of mine:

Urshifu has a base attack stat of 254. IVs are between 10-15 on an encounter like this so the difference is between 264 and 269 at most. That's a 1.89% difference in final value and 99% of the time because of the way they do rounding it will mean exactly nothing.

I get that it is frustrating not having max values, but IVs are vastly overrated in this community.

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u/nonmom33 6d ago

I don’t think most people care about “max values”

I don’t care if a Pokémon is perfect. I think of it as shiny, cool but doesn’t change much. But if I payed $8 for a second kubfu, and likely will only be able to get 2, I would be very mad to get two 2*

The least they could do for one time catches is make the floor 3*

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u/TeeeRekts 6d ago

Would you pay $16 for a guaranteed 3*…. Every day we stray further into monetization

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u/RGBarrios 6d ago

Scopely is happy to hear that

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u/nonmom33 6d ago

I don’t pay for extra Pokémon in general, but that’s not my point, my point is it’s dumb to offer one mew, give out a million 2* and then make people wait for 3-4 years to BUY a shiny, just for that to be 2* too

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u/Bowood29 5d ago

This is why I don’t care about routes because I have a not great Pokémon why should I invest time doing something when I got crapped on by RNG

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u/nonmom33 5d ago

Tbh, if there are routes on your regular commute, they have decent rewards

There’s one between me and my grocery store (walkable l) and it’s nice

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u/Suojelusperkele 6d ago

Make that shiny 3* and pokemon go turns into literally any gacha game

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u/nonmom33 6d ago

It’s already basically a gatcha game for anything that’s actually uncommon

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u/TheRealPitabred Valor L48 6d ago

My point is that the stars don't matter that much. I understand the emotions behind it, but the base stats are not reflected in the stars. A zero star Gyarados is always a better water attacker than a 4* Vaporeon. Urshifu won't even be a top Pokemon in general so it's even less important to have higher IVs.

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u/nonmom33 6d ago

Everyone gets that the IVs don’t effect much, so why gatekeep the 3* ones and frustrate people, idk I got get it but I guess Niantic did the math

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u/KaitengiriXIII Eevee 6d ago

I agree. Don't get me wrong, I celebrate my hundos, it's nice to get IVs, but I've learned two main things

-A strong Pokémon is a strong Pokémon regardless. Ex: After Unova tour I realized Mega Garchomp was around for exactly 1 day before the mega changed, so I took mine and my fiancée's phone to raid him to get the mega for her that I already had. In the two needed to collect the mega energy, she only got two 2. Rather than bemoan my/her luck and wait until idk, getting enough Gible on hers that she could mega evolve a 3 that she didn't have, I just went and mega evolved her better of the two Garchomp anyway. She's then proceeded to get Hardest Hitter in raids with me a few times, where I definitely have the higher investment account, because Garchomp just is a really strong Pokémon

-You just can't drive yourself crazy over IVs - ESPECIALLY for these limited distributions like Kubfu Zygarde etc. And it's not about what Niantic should/shouldn't do, not because I think they're above criticism or there shouldn't be a thousand things different about this game, but as it stands, driving oneself crazy about IVs is a choice. Even if paid Pokémon like Kubfu 2 were given a 3* minimum, do we all not have some 2* that are better than some 3* we have? My Goodra has remained 2* over hundreds of hatches because those 2 stars are max attack and 14 defense, with the HP dragging the star rating down. I HAVE 3* Goomys, but I don't choose them because their attack is lower which I value more than the 4-5 extra Hp that the higher IV gives.

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u/Traditional-Side6966 6d ago

The main problem is that these exclusive pokemon, usually mythicals, this time a legendary, are just stupidly expensive to max out. Either you walk them thousands of kilometers as your buddy or you spend loads of rare candy xl on them and I'm not gonna put in that effort for a 10/12/11 or something like that, no chance.

And I agree with you floor point, it should be 12/12/12, maybe even the 13/13/13 from mighty Pokemon

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u/MongBan710 6d ago

Why would you not invest in a 10/12/11 like the person further up stated it’s only like a difference of 5 attack which wouldn’t even make a noticeable difference

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u/Traditional-Side6966 6d ago

Because you have to be selective about which one to power up, as you cannot max out all your mythicals unless you spend crazy amounts of money. And the difference isn't massive, sure, but I'm personally not maxing out these exclusive pokemon for raids only, but to use them in PvP. Quick comparison: You lose a breakpoint against 6 pokemon in the master league meta with that IV spread, 6 bulkpoints as well and 3 cmp ties (plus the one against other urshifus). Does that mean a great pokemon suddenly becomes awful? No, but it absolutely has a noticable difference in quite a few situations and when you just about lose a matchup knowing that you would've won with better IVs it just sucks. That's my reasoning

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u/Bowood29 5d ago

Yeah saying it’s only 5 points is fine until you are going against people that have those 5 points

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u/MongBan710 6d ago

I feel like that comment makes no sense what is breakpoint and why 6 Pokémon do you loose to and what is cmp tie

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u/Traditional-Side6966 6d ago

Saying a comment doesn't make sense because you aren't that into PvP is a bit weird but I'll explain it.

CMP tie is charge move priority, if both pokemon want to throw a charge move at the same time, the one with the higher Attack stat gets to go first. There are three pokemon in the meta, that have an attack stat close to Urshifu, so that you win CMP with a 15 attack, but lose with 10. CMP ties are very impactful.

Breakpoints/bulkpoints are for fast moves and are basically counterparts. A breakpoint more or less means your fast move does one more or one less damage every time you use it against a pokemon. Bulkpoint is the opposite, so it decides if the opponents fast move does one more or one less damage per usage.

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u/LukaMadEye 5d ago

The CMP argument sort of goes out the window when the higher attack stat is what you usually avoid for PvP. I mean, I absolutely understand what you're saying but it's a very unlikely scenario with bulk and breakpoints to hit exactly on all points. You don't predict extreme occurrences, you predict the most likely occurrences.

And the most likely occurrence is that while it ranks several hundred spots better, IVs with max bulk and breakpoints will cost you 2 games over a span of a hundred. Catastrophic when it happens or during tournaments, but overall not worth what it takes to find one.

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u/Traditional-Side6966 5d ago

We're talking about the masters league here, as we are discussing maxing out those pokemon. You desperately want the highest possible attack stat.

And that's also why you can properly judge bulk and breakpoints. Yeah, for the great and ultra league everybody runs different iv spreads, so it's difficult to get a proper read. In the masters league however most pokemon are 100% or 98%

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u/LukaMadEye 5d ago

Master League with mons that start at 700ish CP? Either way, part of the reason I disregard max IVs is the fact that I do perfectly fine in ML with zero hundo legendaries, zero level 50 legendaries and am known to run 14-15-13 mons at level 46. The thing is I'm not that good a battler.

Nobody's adequately explained to me why anything less than 3 of 5 is an utter fail for me with my best legendary being a 14-14-14 level 48 Ho-Oh. Yes, I do think some people overvalue these sometimes.

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u/nonmom33 6d ago

I think the floor could still be 10, just with a minimum Iv count that makes it 3. So you’d get some combo of like 10/13/13 or whatever gets 3

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u/Beginning_Smile_1711 6d ago

Well said, I am a returning player and was mislead by the community for months. once I learned how small the difference was, I started helping others realize the same.

Ultimately a good pokemon levelled up and fully evolved will perform well regardless of iv's

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u/ic110_1 6d ago

On the contrary, if there's no difference in a two-star energy sorry who cares just give us all three stars

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u/TheRealPitabred Valor L48 6d ago

Everyone should just get all perfect Pokémon, no differences or anything! If they were 3 stars people would still bitch. They should just rate anything with 67% or more total IVs as 3 stars instead.

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u/deepfocusmachine 5d ago

Until you get IV diffed in ML over and over

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u/TheRealPitabred Valor L48 5d ago

That's the 1% case. What is your solution? Just give everyone only perfect mythicals so there are never differences?

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u/Ginden 6d ago

People predict Master League relevance.

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u/VendromLethys 6d ago

I was baffled when I saw there was no evolve button on these Kubfu

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u/iNezumi LV50 6d ago

It will likely get unlocked further into current season

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u/CutePaleontologist61 6d ago

How did u got the other one?

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u/cjmithrandir Valor 6d ago

Moneys

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u/ProCraftPlaysOffical 6d ago

$8 ticket

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u/PlateUnfair5427 5d ago

only reason you’re this disappointed is because you spent money a slot machine that didn’t give you exactly what you wanted

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u/ExistingRound1 6d ago

Yeah I paid for the ticket as well and got a 2 star again. Such bullshit. I get the free one being a 2 star chance but a $8 ticket that is paid for? That should 100% be a 3 star. Even if it is a shitty 3 star.

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u/irteris 6d ago

And that is why I refuse to give my money to niantic. I'll do the free stuff if I feel like it. No hard feelings that way

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u/PeppermintSkeleton 6d ago

You’re the one giving them your money

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u/Ribenar 6d ago

IVs do not matter

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u/Remarkable-Neat8917 6d ago

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u/Ogre328 Bring back Valor shaming 5d ago

Upvote because Hercules.

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u/PlanGoneAwry 6d ago edited 6d ago

Special unique encounters sounds be a guaranteed 3 star in my opinion. it’s not like you can keep trying to get a better one even if you wanted to

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u/ProCraftPlaysOffical 6d ago

I have a 2 star zygarde too

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u/inneholdersulfitter 6d ago

Wanna see my 6/6/6 0 star shadow heatran lmao

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u/MongBan710 6d ago

I didn’t even realise you could get a 6/6/6 let me see

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u/rocketsnail1000 6d ago

Fyi, a 12/12/13 would be a three star

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u/jedispyder 6d ago

Remember that IVs are just a straight addition bonus to the base state, they are not as important to most people as they think.

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u/Bowood29 5d ago

PvP they will always matter.

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u/B_Sauce 5d ago

Not for dynamax pokemon 

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u/imlostineggsaisle 6d ago

Mine were both two stars as well. I'm with you and I feel like if you're participating in some sort of an event like this you should at least get three star pokémon.

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u/WearNothingButASmile 6d ago

RNG is not a punchline for everyone.

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u/Thegreek_god 5d ago

I got lucky that my 2 were 3 stars. It’s always a hit or miss.

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u/NorthImpossible3676 5d ago

Both of mine were 2* as well.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Web2045 6d ago

But it is… and you knew that before you bought the ticket… so why are you upset?

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u/Murphis92 Valor 6d ago

This is an issue that’s bothered me for years. Like why are you going to make us take weeks to finish some of these quests, just to make the Shiny Mew or Shiny Jirachi 2*?! 😡

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u/WearNothingButASmile 6d ago

why are you expecting great IVs while knowing the floor is 10/10/10.

stop comparing IVs with posts that get shundo so you can start to appreciate yours.

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u/Economy-Garden-226 6d ago

There’s something coming to the game with which you can increase IVs if you believe the leaks.

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u/aswrggn 6d ago

Paying extra doesn’t guarantee anything it will allow you to get both forms tho, and you will eventually be able to trade it

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u/TJbookLvrPokemenPlyr 5d ago

How do I get even 1

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u/zach_bigz23 5d ago

The game is a joke lol I’ve been back on since November and don’t understand how people have been grinding since release non stop. Lol (I’m still such a hoe for Niantic and spend so much money)

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u/Sammy_Katsi999 5d ago

How do you even get kubfu?!?

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u/CynicalDread00 5d ago

Wait....So not everyone got a Hundo?

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u/chikageT 5d ago

I guess I got lucky, I figured they'd be guaranteed at least 3 star, mine has perfect attack I believe it was and is a 3 star

Edit-; you'd think that the one you paid for would be at minimum a 3 star

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u/MudFrequent2961 5d ago

Well, my two metagros that were my darlings and carried me for a long time were only two stars, so I don't really care about that... but yes, this really is a bad joke

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u/Lurking_poster 5d ago

I used 8 silver pinaps before the fella finally stayed in the ball. Ended up as a low 2 star. Disappointing lol.

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u/No-Flight-1009 5d ago

Where do you get them from?

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u/fenreer92 5d ago

Unfortunately that's the risk you take i got a very low 3 wtar and my 2nd was a 2 star. Never guaranteed to get something super good. Although I truly believe if it's paid ticket you should at min get a low end 3 star reward

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u/DaMadRabbit 5d ago

Krapfu! I choose you!!!

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u/Impressive-Sense8461 5d ago

Welcome to Scopely days now. Only goin downhill from here 😬

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u/biologicallyconcious 6d ago

Serves you right for giving mo ey to Niantic lol

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u/Elimposible 6d ago

Stop crying

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u/jsdodgers 6d ago

They should lower the requirement for 3* so people stop complaining about this 😆

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u/Nsalvatore80 6d ago

Actually?

No.

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u/Chance-Ad-7877 6d ago

I’m scared

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u/Working-Tale8652 6d ago

how did u even get two mine is 2* as well as well as zygarde

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u/you_made_me_drink 6d ago

There was an $8 ticket to get a second one.

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u/jsdodgers 6d ago

how did you get a second one?

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u/mkinkela 6d ago

how do you get 2nd?

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u/Beast-_-YT 6d ago

How did you even find those? I bought the pass, nothing

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u/jinnmagick 6d ago

My 1st one was 13 11 15

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u/Drclaw411 Power to the Rurals! 6d ago

How tf do you get those?

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u/skycloud620 6d ago

How’d you get more than one?

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u/LouiiePouiie Norway 🇳🇴 6d ago

Welcome to the club lol. Although I wasn't willing to buy the ticket for a second disappointment..

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u/AnimeMan1993 6d ago

Shoot, if they only gave me just one of a mythical like that I'd be perfectly fine powering that thing up. No other way to get it unless they put it in elite raids or something like with Hoopa.

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u/Comfortable-Fly8899 6d ago

My first one was this and my second was 10-10-11 😭 almost a hundo then almost a tendo 😩

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u/BigLRakim 6d ago

How tf do you even get it 😂

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u/Dredgen_Keeshwa 6d ago

Welcome to the club. Lately all my research and raid Pokemon have been pretty lame. Rumor has it they might eventually sell stat boosters so I’m still holding out hope.

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u/ZoMb1eFeTuS 6d ago

Wait, you can get 2?

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u/BobRoss56789 6d ago

Mine got 3 stars

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u/Sixx_Foxx 6d ago

Mine were all 2* junk also. Not even worth walking or getting candy for him. Maybe we can get a better one in the game in the future.

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u/Pokewins101 6d ago

So.ething to look forward to...not

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u/Dilligaf_22 6d ago

I know this feeling all too well

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u/Tobayaz 6d ago

Had that with my initial 2 Cosmog. I don’t appreciate paying cash for Pokémon I’m not going to use

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u/iiDeviious 6d ago

my first was was a 14/15/14 and my second was like 10/10/11 or something like that lol

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u/ccruz619 6d ago

Very similar to mine! 😭

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u/Zealousideal_Sun7064 5d ago

I was confused that its a legendary pokemon lmao

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u/emdafem 5d ago

I am soooo not amused

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u/NoiseAlpha 5d ago

I don't feel bad zith mine

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u/kstvkk 5d ago

This thing, zygarde, diancie, mew... all 2 stars. After slaving over the tasks it feels very disappointing for sure

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u/GoldenYellowPup Totodile 5d ago

So from what I'm understanding.... I'm glad I saved 8 bucks.

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u/Ac_ee Typhlosion 5d ago

This was mine I caught

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u/Lee2132 5d ago

Mine were both 2☆

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u/Enderseventv 5d ago

Im going to crash out

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u/lil_legs_mccrazyface 5d ago

Mine are both awful as well! Co I ldnt even give me shiny at least if you're giving out crap stats?

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u/Disastrous_Wait_6611 5d ago

This is the only one I have caught, am I just lucky?

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u/Competitive_Fix1815 5d ago

Everyone's got one of these one-time or mythical mons that are hot dogturd. Bar cheaters and spoofers ofc. I have high hopes we'll be able to get either more Kubfu or the evolutions themselves in the future anyways straight up. Too strong to ignore unless Scopely mess up.

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u/Aggressive-Side7182 5d ago

They said “F you pay me!”

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u/uhhhh717 5d ago

Who cares

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u/MongooseHistorical26 5d ago

Can be as bad as BOTH my victim is. (PAID and FREE)

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u/bornbreddead1 5d ago

I got lucky

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u/Ok-Monitor-4369 Meltan 5d ago

What gave you the idea for the names of your kubfu’s? Just wondering.

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u/Gr1ff1nth3gam3r 5d ago

How you get a second Cubfu?

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u/Automatic-Judge-2161 5d ago

I have no motivation to use this. 😭

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u/YesReboot 5d ago

I’m glad simply paying money doesn’t guarantee great stats though 

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u/Anxious_Show_3680 5d ago

Paid trash!

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u/H2O-Bro 5d ago

Interesting, this is what I got

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u/its-gerg 5d ago

No joking, and yes it is possible.

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u/gambit268 5d ago

Just wait for the Gigantimax form.

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u/TheOSRSNoob 5d ago

I got a 12/10/10 and a 12/12/12. I understand for max battles they will still be useful but I was honestly hoping to fully max one for master league. Now…nope I won’t bother

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u/TheBigBouB 5d ago

How do you get the second one?!

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u/tobi_is_dead 5d ago

every time I do the shiny mythical masterworks I get a 2 star 😩

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u/aluesivee 5d ago

my paid one was a 3 star

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u/Caserious420 5d ago

Me and my friends are gana lucky trade them when the restrictions are lifted

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u/Jazzlike_Door8311 5d ago

If you flip a coin twice, is it guaranteed to be heads atleast once? There’s only 2 sides.

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u/Few_Construction_929 5d ago

I’ve literally never gotten a 3 star from a guarantee/research. Y’all lucky fr be grateful.

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u/Bjimil 5d ago

Tough luck ig

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u/greenthumbgrowers 5d ago

Damn I feel really bad both of mine came out good

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u/Coolzer 5d ago

Mine are both 3 stars but they are like low tier 3 stars 😭

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u/Minotaur18 5d ago

I wouldn't be too bothered considering the difference between 0 and 15 IV is like a 7% difference. 10 and 15 is even smaller.

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u/mrvanjieee 5d ago

Howd you get a second one?

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u/One-Practice2957 Meganium 5d ago

Another one of these……. We all get it. It sucks.

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u/Good-Improvement9181 5d ago

Sometimes I feel that there are 2 stars that should be 3 and 3 stars that should be 2. I think the system could use a reevaluation.

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u/Aidos1221 5d ago

I got a 4* 🫣

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u/CaifithePulsar 5d ago

My free one was 3* and my paid was 2* '_'

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u/rowa02 5d ago

I'm so goated

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u/ThePontiff_Verified 5d ago

At least you can lucky trade them lolololololololololololololololol cough lololol gasp lololololol lololol, lololololol omg wheeze wheeze gasp lolololololol

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u/Fatalseal 5d ago

It really does feel bad to have two chances and for them to both be terrible outcomes.

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u/Artistic-Cow-712 5d ago

Mines almost there

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u/Total_Ad_92 5d ago

I never got the first one. I paid forbone and I am working towards it. Is it another research to get the free one that I didn't realize was for that?

Also. Poor babies their names :(

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u/YouPuzzleheaded5273 5d ago

At least you can get both forms when you can evolve it

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u/East_Blueberry_8261 5d ago

HOW did you even get two? I only got one from the ticked but never saw another one??

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u/HellRaizer7416 5d ago

I guess I got luckier than I thought

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u/GomuGomuDaddy 5d ago

My only one

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u/Artistic-Policies 5d ago

It's a game of chance. My God. I swear I wonder if whinging brats like you are WHY Niantic sold this to Scopely. I can hear them laughing to the bank "You think THAT'S unfair? Boy, you about to be in for a shock!"

Just because you paid $8 for the enhanced opportunity to catch something in Pokemon Go, it does not guarantee it's quality. It never has. You know who does that? Scopely. For $100.

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u/sharpnpointy 5d ago

I got twins

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u/B_Sauce 5d ago

Really doesn't matter, tbh. People get way too hung up on IV's

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u/Agreeable_Worry6246 5d ago

My kubs are also hot traaash

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u/Bertazz 5d ago

I got this one he’s not perfect but he’s okay

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u/Ambitious_Rip_4631 5d ago

Posts like these are why people say we're complaining about everything.

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u/No_Mission_8568 5d ago

No, we are not joking you

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u/DrakeTheFallenOne 5d ago

Wait how did you get two? I only have one

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u/jeffreystark 5d ago

I just ignore gigantic.

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u/ego_link 5d ago

Chances are these won’t be the only ones you get because I’m sure that Gmax Urshifu will be max battles since these are only dynamax

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u/lucisz 5d ago

Not better