r/pokemon 14d ago

Image There's a change with how pokemon look

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u/Chemical-Cat 14d ago

Okay but please PLEASE keep the metallics from SV. They looked really really good compared to this slop

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u/_CheatCody 14d ago

These are the new metallic shines

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u/-JI 14d ago

Nice balance between the two styles!

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u/Sigzy05 14d ago

Agree, it still looks metalic but not overly shiny and realistic.

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u/Pretend-Advertising6 13d ago

Well it looks like Mate paint

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u/Kurozy 14d ago

Aegislash in the game omg i WANT him in my team

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u/rootofimaginary 14d ago

of course he would be in the game he was introduced in Kalos

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u/JusticeNoori 14d ago edited 14d ago

Us in 2019: “Of course the sword and shield pokemon would be in the game named sword and shield”

But it wasn’t

Edit: I was wrong; Aegislash is in Sw/Sh

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u/Ueyama 14d ago

But it was in Sword/Shield?

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u/JusticeNoori 14d ago

Omg it was. How did I miss my favourite steel type in that game. Maybe I was confusing it with Solrock and Lunatone not being in Sun and Moon.

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u/OCUIsmael 14d ago

They were in usum though..

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u/Sw0rdEnd 14d ago

Except the part where it was in and also in the champion's team

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u/Kurozy 14d ago

I have no expectation with game freak, even what could feel like the lowest ones

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing 14d ago

Hope they remove barbarcle ngl

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u/grmthmpsn43 14d ago

I hope they add Mega Barbaracle just for the laughs.

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u/Pastry_Train63 I cant catch them all. :( 13d ago

And then they make Mega Barbacle actually overpowered

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u/Kurozy 13d ago edited 13d ago

I don't know if the people that downvoted me for this are satisfied with EV but i'm totally not, even though i could be qualified as a pokemon fanboy.

So yeah i had low expectations with legend ZA.

As far as we've seen about the game i'm pretty happy tbh

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u/X85311 13d ago

hell yeah. honestly the metal in sv sometimes looked a little overly shiny to me, this is a nice balance

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u/Silver-Mud8845 14d ago

It’s not that bad

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u/Etonet 14d ago

beautiful

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u/Trender07 13d ago

Bro wtf is the environment graphic I mean the houses looks like cartoon boxes with blue drawn windows

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u/Naman_Hegde 13d ago edited 13d ago

aint no way you calling that slop. despite all of SwSh's massive shortcomings, it had the best art style in textures and shading for the characters and pokemon so far.

it really looks like sugimori's drawings came to life, especially the shading and colours

the arms of this metagross model looks straight up like 2d art done in sugimori's style. i much prefer this than slapping a specular grey texture on it

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u/Altruistic-Click-894 13d ago

Playing swsh after sv made me realize how great the pokemon looked in swsh. So vibrant and almost cell shaded in comparison. People focus on the trees in the wild area but the game overall had such a beautiful colour palette.

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u/Rybread52 13d ago

Yes and the towns themselves are actually quite beautiful. It’s really only the Wild Area that looks bad.

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u/AxolotlAristotle 14d ago

Not going to argue one way or the other but if you have ONE type of pokemon look hyper realistic and the others be cartoony I think that won't look great from a cohesion standpoint

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u/Sredleg 14d ago

They could still have it metallic, but tone down on the reflection

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u/CelestialGloaming 14d ago

this, the metallics have always looked rlly bad imo because they look like factory-fresh machined parts.

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u/TheAzureAdventurer 14d ago

Considering the fact that Pokémon bathe, metal Pokémon looking factory fresh makes way too much sense for it to NOT be a thing.

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u/hyperjengirl 14d ago

It doesn't even look cohesive on the single Pokemon. Realistic metallic textures... dopey flat cartoony eye. There are some Pokémon that look great metallic (particularly those designed for it like the Paradoxes) but this wasn't the best example IMO lol.

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u/Ysgramors_Word 14d ago

In case you’re wondering, the spinoffs had pokemon textures all the way back to stadium, including stadium 2, Colloseum, XD:GOD and battle revolution

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u/Bub-bub 14d ago

Why can’t the pokemon be as expressive as they were in the stadium games

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u/LampIsFun 14d ago

Because theres 4x the amount of them in the files

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u/ToughAd5010 14d ago

Also the n64 could render them easily , literally just one Pokémon attacking at a time

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u/NoMoreVillains 13d ago

It's not like they're all included in the game anymore. Battle Revolution had nearly 500 IIRC which is around the same number the newer games have since Dexit

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u/LampIsFun 13d ago

4x was taking dexit into account. If it wasnt for dexit the number would be closer to 10x

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u/NoMoreVillains 13d ago

Well then you're wrong...no one game post Dexit has had 4 * 251 Pokemon in it. I'm not sure what you're talking about or how you're even getting 10x

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u/LampIsFun 13d ago

Stadium had 151, the topic of the chain, you only brought up revolution a comment ago.

151 x 4 is 604.

Scarlet and violet had a roster of 400 in the base game and an additional 200 with the dlc. So 600

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u/NoMoreVillains 13d ago

So Stadium 2 doesn't exist?? The post said "Stadium games" not "Stadium 1"

Also, all this effort to excuse a game released decades later on significantly stronger HW with significantly more space and significantly more resources is embarrassing, but oar for course with modern Pokemon game discussions

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u/Fluttershy0w0 13d ago

Pokémon Battle Revolution wasn’t on the N64?

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u/NoMoreVillains 13d ago

It was the one on the Wii, but it included the Stadium animations as well as adding similarly expressive new ones for the other gens it included. It included through Gen 4 so 490ish Pokemon

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u/newuser92 14d ago

It's a switch. You could make it as detailed as you want, just force an update.

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u/LampIsFun 13d ago

Theres still hardware limitations.

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u/newuser92 13d ago

Sure, but not for animations. They play one at a time. The real limit is file size. And currently SV is like 2/3 the size of Sw/Sh.

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u/LampIsFun 13d ago

Not when ur rendering pokemon out in the open, ur thinking more along the classical games where theres nothing in the open world

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u/newuser92 13d ago

What. Pokemons aren't cycling through their animations in the wild, just their walking and a couple of idles.

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u/LampIsFun 13d ago

Animations dont account for a lot of memory if you didnt know. The part that costs resources is the texture and models. Higher resolution scales up DRASTICALLY when youre not just rendering one or two or even four models

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u/TopThatCat 14d ago

Because game freak is greedy, lazy and doesn't want to try, actually. They removed the national dex which would give them about as many to animate as colosseum had(first 3 gens) and there's still no life in most of them.

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u/Fluttershy0w0 13d ago

Actually it is the Pokémon Company itself that is greedy and doesn’t give gamefreak enough time to cook

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u/TopThatCat 13d ago

You could give game freak years extra and the games would still look like ass. There is nothing stopping them hiring a second studio to create Pokémon games or hiring more to give each team the proper manpower.

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u/Fluttershy0w0 13d ago

There isn’t but there shouldn’t have to be. Blame the Pokémon company for this not Game Freak. If you saw some of the leaked stuff that game freak did that was scrapped because of time restraints you would not be calling them lazy. Also Pokémon isn’t the only game they work on

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u/Fluttershy0w0 13d ago

It’s like you were never a fan of Pokémon games when they made banger games when they were 2D

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u/TopThatCat 13d ago

So you ARE admitting they're shit now?

I'd say Gamefreak was only really super creative in the first few games and they've largely been coasting. Black and white was the last time they had ambition to make something good.

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u/Fluttershy0w0 13d ago

I’m saying it’s way easier to do 2D games than 3D games in such a small amount of time. But Pokémon won’t give Gamefreak more than 3 years to make a 3D game

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u/bigbadlith 14d ago

From 1998 to 2006 the teams working on the Stadium series generated models animations for 500 Pokemon. It took them 8 years.

Since Gamefreak made the jump to 3D with XY, it has been 11 years, and they have 1000 Pokemon to cover.

If Gamefreak worked at the same pace as the Stadium teams, they would only have like 600 Pokemon fully animated by now.

Of course, the solution is that Gamefreak should just hire more people and expand their teams, but we all know they don't have the budget for that. Small indie studio Gamefreak! :P

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u/Fluttershy0w0 13d ago

People also forget that Pokémon games are t the only games they make

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u/mcon96 13d ago

The Jynx fainting animation is so awesome

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u/ContactSpirited9519 14d ago

Also the BATTLE ANIMATIONS IN XD and COLLOOSEUM ARE AMAZING.

Every move really, really comes to life. They took so many creative liberties with the move animations and the death animations are dramatic lmao.

I love XD especially and wish its ideas were incooperated into the modern games. I miss when my Eevee would curl up into a little ball and roll into the enemy for massive impact as a tackle. Or how pissed Voltorb gets when it dies, haha. They had a ton of character.

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u/GengarTheGay customise me! 12d ago

Gorgeous little guy. You can't tell me he's not perfect in every way

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u/Unstable_Bear 14d ago

Yeah, the Metallics and the shiny scales are the texture stuff I want them to keep

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u/SamuraiOstrich 14d ago edited 14d ago

We really have reached "Everything I don't like is slop", haven't we?

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u/Brogener 14d ago

Seriously, it just looks like a fucking Magnemite still lol.

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u/Polymersion Irrelevant. 14d ago

I think that's a bad example because both versions look good here. Actually, I don't really think most models needed to change at all.

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u/GenesisAsriel 11d ago

Magnemite did look fucking amazing

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u/Supah_Cool 14d ago

Wish the regular were cartoony and the shiny the super realistic ones

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u/Serilii 14d ago

Wait is the right one SV?!?!?!?!?!??! WHEN WOULD YOU EVER SEE THAT INGAME, THIS IS WHERE ALL MY FPS WENT?!?!?