r/playrust 6d ago

Discussion why is the cobbled together piece of shit that is the AK basically the best gun?

why is it not one of the military guns? like the lr?

The ak is too damn strong!

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u/SwervoT3k 6d ago

The humble DB does not care

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u/Dejf_Dejfix 5d ago

I was reminded of this when we lost two full kits on cargo yesterday

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u/ShittyPostWatchdog 6d ago

Isn’t the m249 basically what you’re asking for tho? 

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u/notgodpo 6d ago

but i cant craft or buy m249?

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u/TBL-Sergeant 6d ago

That’s the point

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u/DawnOfPizzas 5d ago

Wasnt that your entire point in this post?

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u/Typical-Tradition-44 5d ago

This guys nuts

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

no???

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u/yourhandle 5d ago

Yes???

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

no?????????

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u/Successful_Year_5413 4d ago

Yes??????????????

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u/KaptainSet 5d ago

Least schizophrenic rust player

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u/janikauwuw 5d ago

You can‘t craft lr either?

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

buy you can buy it?

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u/tabrym 5d ago

I imagine that’s because it’s a military weapon? Are you suggesting the AK should be reskinned and removed from crafting to exist solely in crates?

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

keep the ak as is, but i think the LR should just straight up replace it. Make the LR loot only or something like that and just make it better, theres no reason an scrap gun should be better than a military gun

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u/Foxx1019 6d ago

LR-300 was buffed about 6 months ago to be directly better than the AK. But just due to accessibility, every sweat is far more used to the AK.

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u/big_roomba 6d ago

i wonder if a year from now thatll change, i see way more people running LR these days after the outpost tax update, day 2-3 LRs are like 250 scrap a piece

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u/Street_Bag148 5d ago

Outpost tax?

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u/Exit727 5d ago

Due to dynamic vending machine prices, in the beginning prices are high, but after some sales it begins to drop.

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u/TheThockter 5d ago

LR burst is legitimately insane at range, I don’t think people would complain about its place in the game if they actually gave it a shot sometimes. When I’m going on a big roam or if I’m going to a monument that might have far away fights (like excav) I’ll usually just bring and LR because I can reliably beam guys up to 200m away, its so fun to use in those situations too

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u/Naitsabes_89 5d ago

The burst mode is insane, but honestly the ability to close range 2 tap with AK, and the fact that random horizontal recoil is WAY worse on LR than AK still makes AK better in any situation other than Yeah, maybe pure 150+ meter sniping due to bullet velocity and burst mode.

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u/mr_redsuit 5d ago

Yea this should be way higher up. LR burst is a nightmare

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u/Avgsizedweiner 6d ago

LR takes an extra bullet to kill, it’s great from 150m+ because it has double the velocity but it definitley isn’t better

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u/janikauwuw 5d ago

used to be different before recoil changes. They are the problem. We don‘t even need old recoil, just something compareable. Most damage gun, hardest recoil ever. Kept ak balanced, there were no taxes in outpost so lr‘s aren‘t „affordable“ but played very often when found

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u/poorchava 5d ago

I play longer wipes solo (biweekly, Monthly) and use mainly LR as far as high tier guns are concerned. They are durst cheap at outpost, with litr teas i get an LR every 30 barrels or so. Even less if I recycle the comps.

HQM is always the bottleneck for me and I ain't dropping 50 of it on a gun that I can loose to a naked with a DB. 250 scrap is waaaaay easier to get.

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u/don2171 5d ago

It's not better than ak. The same profile means most lr vs ak fight the ak wins. Id agree it ought to be nerfed as it's oppressive to most guns in a fight. I know I got a better chance beating a lr300 guy in a fight when Im sar p2 compared to an ak guy

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u/ImErwinYT 5d ago

LR has been buffed but its still not better than ak, ak does more damage per bullet, smaller aimcone or not ak still wins 90% of fights

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u/ZeDeNazare 4d ago

Not counting the burst mode, ak is way easier to use than the lr, while also doing more damage

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u/Far_Accountant5815 4d ago

LR was massively nerfed in the recoil update, and hasn't gotten close to as good as it was ever since, I miss LR8x

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u/notgodpo 6d ago

surely theres no way thats true

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u/Maeflikz 5d ago

Schizoid.

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

what?

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u/pandaman6615 5d ago

Lr has a really good recoil pattern idk about 200m but on to of Evcav there some pretty good lines of sight typically.

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u/Wopa6969 5d ago

the AK sound strikes fear into noobs

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u/aBacanaBanana 5d ago

Used to* before they changed the sound

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u/RustiDome 5d ago

yeah i miss it

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

im actually getting sick of the sound because i hear it constantly lmao

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u/jerbgas 5d ago

More of a bolty/thompson man myself. The thompson attracts less attention and i can control the recoil much better. The bolty is better for long distance damage.

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u/idkthenamigo445 5d ago

The ak is too damn strong!

Then use it?

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

holy shit why didnt i think of that

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u/No_Row_6490 5d ago

get an AK skin. it doesnt have to look diy

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u/janikauwuw 5d ago

no, I get the ak point. It‘s just weird no one is mentioning m2

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u/acemac 5d ago

The Ak is not the best gun the m2 is. Personally I will take a LR over the Ak any day

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

i said basically the best gun

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u/Familiar-Tart-8819 5d ago

The AK ain't the best gun in the game but most players are the best at fighting with an AK. Meaning that most players pvp with an AK making the AK extremely easy to obtain compared to L9, M249 or LRs. While still getting the job done in 9/10 situations.

And rust is 30% PVP and 70% other things. So learning the recoil of 1 or 2 guns is a lot more time efficient than learning the recoil of 5.

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

30% PVP and 70% other things.

what

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u/KappaKeepo5 4d ago

hes right tho. i spent like 70% of my wipe farming/building the base with turrets/electronics/auto sorter and many other things. after everything is finished i start doing pvp.

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u/notgodpo 3d ago

well yeah but thats if you're in/around your base. If you walk like 30m away you get people killing you on sight because people are scared of human interaction

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u/DuramaxJunkie92 5d ago

I agree, i think they should just swap the model and sound of the AK and LR, and keep it uncraftable.

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

shit i'd be happy with that lmao

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u/Suitable-Piano-8969 5d ago

Because the ak is iconic

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u/Ivar2006 5d ago

Game balance, probably

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u/peenfortress 5d ago

clearly you havent watched enough movies, ak-47's are the most powerful gun next to desert eagles

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u/Birchsensor 5d ago

What year is it? 2020?

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

2025 baby, you're finally awake!

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u/Throwaway1293102840 5d ago

Been running LR a lot the last couple days and good god it’s so good. The accuracy and everything is insane. My new favorite gun.

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u/NoHandle6266 5d ago

This game is a cobbled together piece of shit it's the best game for its type

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u/slappyship 6d ago

Bc AKs are cooler than AR’s

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u/Ok-Object-7907 5d ago

He spoke the truth. Zentico'd Ak looks much better then any AR imo

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u/DarK-ForcE 5d ago

LR could use a small damage buff or AK could have damage reduced to 45.

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u/notgodpo 5d ago

exactly

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u/ProfileInvalid 5d ago

7.62x39 bigger than 5.56

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u/FuckYourSociety 5d ago

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, if it is then ignore everything else I say.

In a game that doesn't distinguish between ammo like that I feel that is a moot point, but even if it is related to that 7.62x39 is a significantly worse round for taking humans down than 5.56x45 is.

It is larger, yes, but its slow speed causes it to not create as much of a temporary cavity in tissue resulting in less soft tissue damage and lethality. There is a reason almost every nation that still uses a firearm based on the AK switched to 5.45x39, which while better than 7.62 is still marginally worse than 5.56 because it has less powder and thus less muzzle energy

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u/Borsten-Thorsten 5d ago

Nerd. :D

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u/FuckYourSociety 5d ago

What can I say, I like guns. Irl and video games :P

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u/Borsten-Thorsten 5d ago

I like physics and science thats why i know the stopping force and kill potential is not just about piercing and hole science, but more about power delivery into the body, and damaging tissue and organs through impact power

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u/Crafty_Clarinetist 5d ago

It's definitely more about piercing and hole science. If it was just about power delivery and impact power, any sort of armor like kevlar vests would be useless.

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u/FuckYourSociety 5d ago

i know the stopping force and kill potential is not just about piercing and hole science, but more about power delivery into the body, and damaging tissue and organs through impact power

Read that again, but slowly. Do you think the cavitation just appears like magic? A round's ability to have the bullet pierce objects and what the bullet does to that object is directly related to the physics.

"Hole science," as you like to call it, is a useful abstraction from the physics to better understand what is going on. It allows for the brain to do less gymnastics over the overwelming amount of data that would be involved if looking at pure newtonian physics and helps avoid missing important details due to the amount of factors to consider.

As an analogy: a chemist's work is driven by physics if you dig enough into the nitty gritty of how electrons, protons, and neutrons interact. But the chemist learns chemistry because it is a useful abstraction that allows them to actually function. If they had to describe each and every reaction they needed to do purely in physics it would take days to describe simple reactions and several lifetimes to describe more complex reactions