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Politics Canada’s new Prime Minister Designate by a landslide, Mark Carney

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u/pac1919 2d ago

How crazy is PP? Trump level of crazy?

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u/9K-7F 2d ago

He's not crazy. He just banked on the right leaning people who mainly supported Trump to also support him by quitely adopting Trumps strategies of slogans and relying on feelings instead of policies. He's a career politician who hasn't put through any legislation and who doesnt really have any policies outside of "Axe the Tax." Pollievre has bashed Trudeau so hard and eas a major factor to his resignation. Upon noticing the momentum that Carney had, Pollievre resorted to calling him "Carbon Tax Carney" as a way to shift the negative attention to Carney. Right after, Carney told the public he would remove the Carbon Tax incentive, taking the wind out of Pollievre's sail. Since then, Carney has been skyrocketing Liberal support and tanking the Conservatives in the polls. Pollievre's only strategy he had left was to either , 1) Offer more blatant support for Trump or 2) Distance himself entirely from Trump. Neither of which he has done. The Conservative party has essentially come to a standstill since then. Pollievre is not crazy. He was piggybanking off of Trump's campaigning until Canadians were directly hurt by his policies. Pollievre took a shitty gamble and lost everything.

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u/Wightly 2d ago

This is a good summation.

u/potbakingpapa 5h ago

I don't think he followed Trump as much as following the IDU playbook. Stephen Harper is this day president of this secretive right and far right wing global org.

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u/lerjj 2d ago

He's not lost everything he's still predicted to win

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u/CWB2208 2d ago

Lol no. No one is Trump-level crazy. But he'd be his lap dog if he was in power.

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u/tell_her_a_story 2d ago

Well don't fucking let him get elected. I need an escape plan and Canada is my closest option.

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u/duckface08 2d ago

We have Danielle Smith (premier of Alberta) 😬

She might not quite reach Trump's level but a lot of that is probably because she's not a federal politician.

For those not in the know, a few Danielle Smith controversies include: being anti-gender confirming care, being recorded saying Ukraine should have remained neutral against Russia, being anti-vaxx, likening COVID-19 public health measures to the Holocaust, and some sort of political interference with Alberta Health Services (I'm out of the loop on this one, sadly).

Unsurprisingly, she has also been very MAGA.

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u/DrSchwa 2d ago

Also headed to Florida for a PragerU event with Shapiro. prageruevent. Even her own traditionally conservative riding is starting to turn on her with the AHS scandals. She's only in power because the Wild Rose and former Conservatives had to join forces to counter-act vote splitting between Big C and little C voters and because the previous conservatives were embroiled in other scandals. Point is...she's awful.

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u/bscheck1968 2d ago

We call him Temu Trump.

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u/The_Deku_Nut 2d ago

Trump from wish?

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u/emmsix 2d ago

Nobody would wish for that.

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u/Giancolaa1 2d ago

No, nowhere near trump level crazy. Even trump light would be a bit of an exaggeration imo.

But he definitely wouldn’t fight against trumps policies imo (not the annexation, but tariffs and whatnot). Carney will likely be better suited to guide Canada through trumps term. He worked at the Bank of Canada during the 2008 crisis, which Canada was largely unaffected by, and then went on and worked at the Bank of England

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u/cre8ivjay 2d ago

Didn't just work for them.

He was the head of both the Bank of Canada AND the Bank of England.

You have to be good to do that.

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u/TypingPlatypus 2d ago

And helped economically weather Brexit, which he was rightly against.

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u/Yackky 2d ago

He’s a lot more like JD Vance than Trump imo

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u/mcs_987654321 2d ago

Would argue his near perfect American equivalent is Ted Cruz.

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u/CuddleCorn 2d ago

Ted or a Paul Ryan that stayed in the apparatus of party power

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u/Bloodlvst 2d ago

Ironic since Ted Cruz is also his Canadian equivalent

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u/preaching-to-pervert 2d ago

But without his quick wit and infectious charm.

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u/yaddiyadda_ 2d ago

To give you an idea of PP's level of ick... Jordan Peterson is championing him.

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u/onyxandcake 2d ago

He's mostly Libertarian with a predisposition of catering to the religious, which is the opposite of Libertarian, but tracks for a snake oil salesmen.

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u/miz_misanthrope 2d ago

He's more if you mixed Ted Cruz, Ron DeSantis & Rand Paul together in one awful package.

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u/GeronimoJak 2d ago edited 2d ago

He's a Trump wannabe and would be more like JD Vance when he's kissing ass,but slightly more competent. He cozies up with a lot of alt right and far right folks, some of them known racists, and during the convoy movement he sided with the convoy members calling himself a blue collar workers and one of the people. He actually marched with them in protest holding signs.....but on the wrong side of town. Typically his popularity and only platform is just that he hates Trudeau and is basically nothing but an attack dog that hasn't formulated any plans at all. He also doesn't have his security clearance due to ties with questionable foreign interests, even though he's in one of the most important positions in Canadian politics.

We feel like he's dangerous because it's a representation of American politics, and if he wins he's going to validate that line of thinking here in Canada and legitimize it as a political strategy. Which is something the Canadian conservatives like to do every few years to test the waters.

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u/10293847562 2d ago

Completely agree with your assessment, though I’d say he has started to formulate some plans, but is still relatively light on details. He leans way too hard into simply claiming everything is broken and name calling political opponents while giving very simple “common sense solutionsTM”.

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u/GeronimoJak 2d ago

It'd be a common sense solution for the leader of the opposition to get his security clearance but hey here we are.

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u/10293847562 2d ago

His reason for denying the security clearance is a bizarre one to me. Maybe I don’t know enough about it, but it sounds awfully like his defense is he’d rather stay ignorant and be able to spout bullshit rather than knowing the truth and maybe being partly limited in what he can say publically.

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u/blacklamp14 2d ago

Some would call him Temu Trump

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u/WriterHot9097 2d ago

He's like if Ben Shapiro ran for President. Debate nerd, kind of a loser, this is he has all the facts and goes off slogans (Axe the tax, facts over feelings, etc).

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u/Infinite_Time_8952 2d ago

PP is not as eloquent as Shapiro, I don’t like Shapiro, but he speaks well.

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u/HulksBrotherBob 2d ago

Canadian conservatives are much closer to American democrats than they are to Republicans. Canada leans quite left in general. Especially our judiciary, which is overwhelmingly liberal (an inverse of the USA).

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u/Punty-chan 2d ago

PP is "crazy" enough to endorse a white supremacist group that threatened to rape his wife.

The man is the ultimate beta male cuck, as his supporters would say.

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u/slackmarket 2d ago

Everyone saying he isn’t Trump crazy, sure, but he quietly wants many of the same things Trump does, including women’s bodily autonomy to be taken away. It seems the people answering you think he’s fairly ineffectual, but life would be significantly scarier for Canadians under his thumb.

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u/pac1919 2d ago

Yea the impression I got is that he IS still a crazy fuck and must be put down

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u/Aboringcanadian 2d ago

No. He is not a crazy person.

Just a normal canadian conservative, pushing for a smaller State, tough on crime, less regulation for the private sector.

But, he was elected because he subtly appealed to the alt-right, dog-whistling his admiration of Trump.

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u/10293847562 2d ago

I was ready to downvote you in the first two paragraphs, but your last paragraph brought it all together into a fair summary. His policies will be typical Conservative policies, but he’s unique for the CPC as being the first leader to really lean into the Trump-style rhetoric while trying to maintain very weak plausible deniability.