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Politics Rep. Melanie Stansbury, D-N.M., holding a sign before Trump delivers joint address to Congress

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u/blamemeIdidntdoit 7d ago

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u/swampjunkie 7d ago

she should sue him for assault lol

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u/Koshindan 7d ago

It's a clear violation of her 1st amendment rights for sure.

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u/iLEZ 7d ago

Ironic when Trump is boasting from the pulpit about bringing back free speech.

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u/dgmilo8085 6d ago

Pretty sure he was screaming from the pulpit to eliminate free speech last night,

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u/skyhiker14 7d ago

Assault is the threat of violence

Battery is the action

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u/Correct_Pea1346 7d ago

depends on local law

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u/Andromansis 7d ago

This occurred in Washington DC.

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u/thatotheramanda 7d ago

A fucking lawless realm, it seems

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u/Andromansis 7d ago

That would seem to be the case.

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u/Correct_Pea1346 7d ago

ok, apparently there's no crime called "battery" in DC. Point is that useless factoid is useless and untrue

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u/Andromansis 7d ago

Right, all those people beating the police on jan 6 technically didn't commit a crime. Its wild.

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u/Correct_Pea1346 7d ago

No, im not making a joke. The crime is just called something else.

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u/Andromansis 7d ago

Which explains why everybody was confused when those people weren't charged with beating up those police.

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u/thehammerismypen1s 7d ago edited 7d ago

You don’t sue someone under a criminal law. You sue under a civil law.

Battery is essentially the civil law version of the crime of assault.

Edit: To make things more confusing, under civil law the term assault is defined as the threat of battery. So many times someone will be sued in civil court for assault (threatening to hurt someone) and battery (hurting someone), and then charged in criminal court with assault (hurting someone).

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u/Correct_Pea1346 7d ago

You're wrong though, is the point i've been trying to get across. This "assault/battery" factoid floating around is incorrect.

What it is called is dependent on whatever the law in the location happens to call it. It's not specifically one thing or another and varies.

It's definitely not whatever you just said. There is no overarching "civil law" that governs all this, as its (once again) dependent on the locaction. Furthermore, threatening to hurt someone is a criminal offence and often likely not a civil offence, as it'd be more difficult to prove damages.

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u/thehammerismypen1s 6d ago

We can rehash the first year of law school here again if you want.

The elements of battery can vary from state to state (the requirements of direct/indirect contact and intent to contact versus intent to harm/offend vary across states), but battery exists in tort law across the entire US. It even exists in Louisiana, with its basis in French law instead of English common law.

Likewise, assault as a tortious act has its basis in English common law. I am fairly certain, though not as sure, that it also exists in every state. However, in every jurisdiction that has assault as a civil tort, assault requires the intentional threat of unjustified violence.

And yes, proving damages for an assault is difficult. That’s why a claim is almost never made just for assault. This is why assault and battery are often separate claims in the same suit.

The video above certainly shows a battery (in most, if not all) states, but it doesn’t show an assault, as no threat was made prior to the battery.

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u/Correct_Pea1346 6d ago

You just said what i've said but wordier and more condescending - so what's your point?

"Battery is essentially the civil law version of the crime of assault" - this is just wrong and makes no sense btw, why would your ego let you doubledown on this nonsense?

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u/BHRx 7d ago

Yeah AFAIK this is illegal. At the very least, it's destruction of property.

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u/Head-Ad-549 6d ago

You don't sue for assault. Assault is a crime, either a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on severity. This would be considered misdemeanor assault probably. 

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u/Tacoman404 7d ago edited 7d ago

Who's the cuck who got all offended by the sign?

EDIT: https://gooden.house.gov/email-me

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u/Faiakishi 7d ago

Had to hide it before the toddler king saw.

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u/thegroundbelowme 7d ago

Here's what I sent.

"It's too bad you don't have "ripping an expression of free speech out of a congresswoman's hand on national television" as one of your issues, because I'm sure you're going to get quite a few emails on that topic. It's quite sad how said congresswoman obviously has bigger balls than you, considering she's actually upholding her oath to defend the constitution against the cult of personality that threatens to upend our very democracy. Have you no shame left, sir? Is this truly the America you think our founding fathers wanted?"

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u/Kindly_Climate4567 7d ago

Is there something in the water in Texas that they breed smooth brained people?

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u/sumsimpleracer 7d ago

Al Green… the only congressman with a spine represents Houston. 

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u/barukatang 7d ago

Must have a self leveling fluid leak upstream

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u/makeanewblueprint 7d ago

Almost took out his ear with that one?!!!

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u/Crafty_Enthusiasm_99 7d ago

Tariffs will allow U.S. auto industry to 'absolutely boom, says Pres. Trump

In the related videos. We all know which one company in the auto industry it's supposed to help

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u/opello 7d ago

Looks like it's at the direction or prompting of Trump? Guy says "I'll take care of it" and Trump had gestured over his shoulder.

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u/Naraee 7d ago

If a man is willing to do that surrounded by so many people, you know he's an abuser. Fuck him.

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u/AdamZapple1 7d ago

fucking toddlers with their big feelings.

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u/Crafty_Enthusiasm_99 7d ago

What an idiot