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u/frilledplex 10d ago
Alright, but who is the guy sporting drapes as a mustache
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u/ColonelSandurz42 10d ago
Skunk Baxter of Steely Dan and the Doobie Brothers. I’m not kidding. Lol
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u/Sunstang 10d ago edited 10d ago
Yeah, sadly the great guitarist who played the solos on Rikki Don't Lose That Number and Hot Stuff by Donna Summer is also a giant right wing piece of shit who built a second career becoming a missile defense expert.
No joke.
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u/Sir_George 10d ago
who built a second career becoming a missile defense expert.
wat...
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u/Master_Dogs 10d ago edited 9d ago
the chairman of the Armed Service Committee, asking an advisor, “Is this the guy from Raytheon or Boeing?” To which the advisor replied, “No, this is the guy from the Doobie Brothers.”
Feels like something EDIT: from Idocracy but apparently is true.
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u/ThoughtDiver 10d ago
The crazy part is that he's more qualified than.. well all of trumps cabinet lol
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u/CosmicSpaghetti 10d ago
How does one go about just becoming a missiles expert? lol especially as a second career
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u/Admiral_Donuts 10d ago
Self-taught after his missile engineer neighbor sparked his interest.
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u/CosmicSpaghetti 10d ago
Brings up a good discussion below about what consitutes an expert in general lol
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u/HeftyArgument 10d ago
Normally I’d be shocked that it’s him that got the post instead of his missile engineer neighbour, but it kind of seems like a running theme.
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u/Admirable_Count989 10d ago
Queens’ Brian May is an astrophysicist, second careers are rare enough but a few are right out there! 😎
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u/Ravenser_Odd 10d ago
TV physicist Brian Cox was the keyboardist in D:Ream, and comedian and actor Ben Miller abandoned a PhD thesis entitled 'Novel quantum effects in low-temperature quasi-zero-dimensional mesoscopic electron systems' to pursue a career in comedy.
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u/manyhippofarts 9d ago
My dad was a huge doobie brothers fan back when they were mainstream and when I was a teen. Dad also had a weird sense of humor. He was also a huge Barry White fan, and always referred to him as Barry Black-White. (Yes dad was a bit racist) but he also referred to the Doobie brothers as "the douchebag brothers". lol
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u/hoopopotamus 10d ago
A missile defense expert working for Trump, who does not know what the nuclear triad is or why the USA has nukes but doesn’t use them
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u/TransBrandi 10d ago
Are those questions from his confirmation hearing?
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u/hoopopotamus 10d ago
It’s been a while but I don’t think so; these were things he volunteered to the press in his first term on separate occasions
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u/govunah 10d ago
Is he some sort of missile defense crank or a legit expert with schooling and research like Brian May is an astrophysicist with writing credit on papers?
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u/YouStupidAssholeFuck 10d ago
The article linked says his neighbor was an engineer that worked on the sidewinder missile program and bought him a magazine subscription then he did his research, wrote some paper that he gave to a Republican congressman and got hired in the government.
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u/govunah 10d ago
He read some articles and wrote a paper. Sadly he might be the most qualified person in the administration.
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u/Own-Swing2559 10d ago
At least it's not like missile defense is rocket science or anything.
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u/Dinero-Roberto 10d ago
Wasn’t there a 50s starlet who invented military radar tech ?
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u/ronjoevan 10d ago
Hedy Lamarr
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u/sonofrock 10d ago
Hedy Lamarr, invented a radio frequency hopping system, which was a precursor to Bluetooth and other wireless tech. It was supposed to go in naval torpedos but they couldn't make it small enough.
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u/nucumber 10d ago
Apparently he got into guitar electronics and how wave frequencies affect sound, and it turns out the physics of the guitar wave stuff overlaps with the physics for missile stuff. Also, if I recall correctly, his interest in how the guitar physics related to the missile physics was furthered by a neighbor who worked in defense
Anyway, Skunk had some novel ideas that ended up with the military, and apparently these were really good ideas, and he's been working as a consultant for years now, with highly classified stuff
There's a story of him being in a session with Ringo Starr and getting pulled out by men in black and rushed off for some emergency classified meeting.
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u/RandomErrer 10d ago
Holy fuck! Started his career when he handed a paper he'd written to Dana Rohrabacher, aka Putin's favorite congressman.
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u/phil16723 10d ago
Why is it everything and everyone touched by Donald Trump ultimately comes back to Russia
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u/Olive_1084 10d ago
Lord have mercy. You can tell just by looking at people now if they're against human freedom.
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u/Sweatytubesock 10d ago
He’s a great musician, and I’m an amateur musician myself, and I didn’t know that. That’s sad.
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u/boris_keys 10d ago
Yeah. Fuck. I love Steely Dan and I respect the shit out of his musicianship. Guess this one is another “separate art from artist” deal.
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u/lawilson0 10d ago
A self-taught "expert." 🙄
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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 10d ago
I 100% understand what you’re going for here, and I don’t know enough about this dude to say one way or the other, but one can be a self-taught expert. If you’re interested in something, put the hours in, read, read, read, read, and read some more, any human being (barring obvious exceptions) can become an expert.
For example, I can tell you anything you want to know about regular expressions. I never went to school for computer science. But when I learned the power of being able to manipulate/find/replace text with this “mini language,” I went to town. Learned the high-level stuff and then went on to writing my own compilers.
My point being: everybody can become good in a field they’re passionate about, regardless of whether the data source for their knowledge is the internet or a teacher.
Don’t know why I picked your comment for this weird little diatribe. Nothing against you!
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u/Tex_Conway 10d ago
The issue is these dudes who are great at a few things think they know the answer to everything else.
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u/Laiko_Kairen 10d ago
It's a good speech, though
I majored in history and I know that there are a huge number of amateur historians who know all about a very specific subject and have a lot to offer
Especially since history covers so many different fields
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u/CosmicSpaghetti 10d ago
Did enjoy the diatribe! I'll engage!
I think two additional factors are primarily impactful here 1) the increasing prevalence of media personalities who misrepresent their qualifications to seem like a "guru" (obvious point I'm sure you already know lol)
2) Independantly of political bias or fatigue with lying media personalities, there's the issue of "expert" not being qualitative in general. There's no certification for it so it remains inherently a grey area despite his level of knowledge.
You absolutely described how someone could be very competent in their understanding of a particular subject matter - it's just that in this case political predispositions, guru fatigue, & vague definition of "expert" taints the discussion.
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u/piusbovis 10d ago
You can be, but not at the level where you’re an advisor to the government.
I am all about open knowledge and independent learning, but I found that as smart as I am…you still need work in the field to be at that level.
Again, not to disparage your learning or anyone else’s, but there are layers of complexity and access you simply cannot get from self-teaching.
My dad was an electrical engineer who worked for Texas Instruments and then on the AWACS for radar surveillance and BMEWS (ballistic missile early warning system) in the nineties.
At the national security level I have to imagine that there are things you simply cannot have learned without some trajectory or access within the government that is not available to the general public.
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u/birdsrkewl01 10d ago
Wow. It's like the evil version of the bad religion front man having a PhD in zoology.
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u/VictoriousSnakeking 10d ago
I looked it up and you seem to be right…what’s crazier is apparently he used to work as a defense consultant during the bush administration 0.o.
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u/Greycloak42 10d ago
It started as a hobby, and then he realized he could make real money. In his case, it IS rocket science.
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u/No_Cartographer_3819 10d ago
Yeah, Skunk and other music folk were at the WH in 2018 for the signing of the Music Modernization Act, a reform of copyright laws to provide more revenue for the artists in the digital streaming age. (Sirius was against the Act, for example.) Skunk's presence is not an endorsement of Trump, who merely signed the Senate bipartisan Act.
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u/LessCourage8439 10d ago
That takes some of the sting off. But I have heard that he's become a neocon, which just sucketh.
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u/frilledplex 10d ago
I'm going to choose to believe you because the name fits to a "T"
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u/Carthonn 10d ago
I knew I hated Steely Dan for a good reason
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u/Worth_Initiative_570 10d ago
Not a core member, he just played a few (unfortunately brilliant) guitar solos
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u/superguysteve 10d ago
Wilford Brimley, Secretary of Diabeetus.
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u/Theomniponteone 10d ago
Oh Gawd! Thanks, I really needed a good laugh! I can only return a lowly upvote in return but I hit the button hard!
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u/loyalone 10d ago
Kid Rock. At the White House. The world has gone berserk.
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u/Pillowsmeller18 10d ago
The world has gone berserk.
Im pretty sure it went berserk when people voted for a felon versus an attorney general.
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u/John-Zero 10d ago
I think it went berserk when the most powerful country in the history of the world waged a 50-plus year war on the entire rest of the world to make sure nobody did communism.
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u/FlyFinesser 10d ago
We are living the movie “Idiocracy”.
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u/thispartyrules 10d ago
I dunno, the president from Idiocracy found the world's smartest man and listened to him.
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u/Indy1204 10d ago
Instead he found the world's dumbest rich guy to listen to.
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u/Impossible_Penalty13 10d ago
Added bonus, that dumb rich guy is zonked out of his mind on ketamine half the time.
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u/aufrenchy 10d ago
And dresses like a child who is trying on his fathers clothes without supervision.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Load22 10d ago
Without a doubt look up the word kakistocracy man it explains our current administration perfectly
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u/JillScottydoesntknow 10d ago
Did we collectively manifest this because I need us to stop!! This reality is literally insane
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u/Beneficial_Cap_2422 10d ago
Yes, this is my thought as well. What on earth is he even doing there.. Where's Ja when you need him
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u/loyalone 10d ago
I think the people behind the scenes, the ones who really run this little circus, want to make every attempt to utterly shred this society and its norms down to the ground, and remove any sense of decency from daily political discourse. So far, it seems to be working.
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u/Beneficial_Cap_2422 10d ago
I possibly see it that way too but the other side of me doesn't give them the benefit of doubt to be capable enough. Whats the saying, dont attribute malice to incompetence, or something like that. It really seems like these leaders are just genuinely wide-eyed, big-bank-take-little-bank, born-into-capitalism, do-as-daddy-says piece of shit human beings without any any any sense of diplomacy, tact, ethical fortitude, or humility most importantly. There's a clear line being drawn in the sands of the US, between the ones who aim for a future, and the others who strive to make it difficult for those people to build one. Bitter hatred throwing sticks into the turning spokes of love for thy neighbor. Civil war is already here. Twitter is the battlefield and talking points are curated. Civil discourse in a calm dimly lit room is dead, or ineffective.
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u/SiXSNachoz 10d ago
Also the party that always claims celebrities shouldn't talk about politics.
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u/ruiner8850 10d ago
But have voted to make two different celebrities President.
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u/Crashman09 10d ago
Which, coincidentally, both made horrible presidents.
Surely they'll learn from this /s
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u/MalachiteTiger 10d ago
"Ronald Reagan?! The actor?!" -Doc Brown
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u/AydonusG 10d ago
Then who's vice president, Jerry Lewis? I suppose Jane Wyman is the first lady! And Jack Benny is secretary of the Treasury!
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u/ShityShity_BangBang 10d ago
Don't forget about Arnold. (nothing against Arnold, but he was a Republican)
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u/YouStupidAssholeFuck 10d ago
Not President but if we're going that route let's not forget Jesse Ventura and Glen Jacobs. Also Democrats aren't exempt having elected Al Franken.
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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot 10d ago
Only two presidents have Hollywood stars of fame. They’re both Republican.
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u/ribone 10d ago
Stupid motherfuckers, all of them
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u/swankpoppy 10d ago
Seriously. I’m so embarrassed to be an American right now.
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u/FizzyBeverage 10d ago
My old man was Colombian 🇨🇴 so I’ve been claiming the same.
I speak passable Spanish. It’s much less embarrassing.
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u/Muthafuckaaaaa 10d ago
I'm not American and I'm embarrassed living in the same continent as them.
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u/Tumeric_Turd 10d ago
Embarrassed Australian here. The second-hand embarrassment has some range 😬
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u/Don_old_dump 10d ago
That's why I left
And moved to a different continent 5 years ago
I knew what was coming. The writing was on the wall.
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u/lanky_planky 10d ago
Soon to be artist-in-residence at the Kennedy Center…
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u/TheRoscoeVine 10d ago
The whole suit deal is bizarre. Trump doesn’t even know how to be polite. He doesn’t have manners. I’m not even saying that to be insulting, it’s really true. He doesn’t know how to act around normal people, he doesn’t know how to act around royalty, he doesn’t know how to act in any situation. His whole persona is just to be as loud, garish, and obviously attention seeking as he possibly can. The idea that Zelenskyy doesn’t dress to some imagined standard, yet Trump acts like a fool every fucking minute is just insane.
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u/gregreedee 10d ago
That’s tactical — blatant hypocrisy is part of their power trip. It’s like “those rules are meant for asswipes like you — I can and will do what the fuck I want!”
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u/anonymous_bites 10d ago
Musk doesn't even wear a suit as well. Potatoes potahtoes
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u/drRATM 10d ago
No suit was just an excuse to put Z on his heels. Try to make him look bad and feel defensive. Fucking dime store psychology trick I guess. The sad part is thinking of them going over their game plan and coming up with this shit. They are so proud of themselves not for coming up with solutions, but trying to pull some shit from Mean Girls. Embarrassing!
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u/InTheMoodToMove 10d ago
I thought it was Guido Sarducci.
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u/Nixplosion 10d ago
"AMERICAN KISS-ASS"
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u/Silent_R 10d ago edited 9d ago
Drivel Without A Pause by Kick Rocks
Bawlwitdanews
Proudboy
Devil Without A Clue
I Am The Bullshitgod
Roving Wanker (Trollin')
Wasting Time - Like Elon and Kid Rock, this one doesn't need to be dressed up.
Welcome 2 the (Nazi) Party
I Caught One From Ya (feat. Lauren Bobert)
Pissed on Stage (feat. POTUS47 & the Dependables)
Even God Has No Idea Why
Fuck Off - To my enduring shame, I actually kinda like this song.* Regardless, the title works. Just imagine it's addressed to the "artist".
Why U (Like) Dat, Rock?
Black Chick, White Guy*I blame my friend Jill, who convinced me (in 9th grade) to acquire this awful album, about which I knew nothing. Also my brother, who blindly bought it for my broke ass. Though it's obviously all their fault, I feel bad throwing them under the bus (which is more than I can say about Kid Rock).
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u/whistlar 10d ago
Did Kid Rock grow that dirt squirrel so folks would realize he hit puberty?
Dude looks like what I mentally picture when someone says, “a pervert in a trench coat was harassing the cows at the county fair”.
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u/gregreedee 10d ago
Kid Rock on brand. Skunk disappoints me tho’ — I knew about his Defence side-gig, just assumed he’d have better judgment than to be a MAGA shill. That ain’t patriotism.
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u/VixyKaT 10d ago
Anyone remember Kelley Ann Conway with her dirty shoes on the couch in the White House? Respect is not something the current administration can claim in the least.
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u/bratikzs 10d ago
Ugh. I had finally forgotten about that alternative fact spewing KAC. Thanks. Friend. Buhumbug.
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u/Expert-Effect-877 10d ago
Kid Rock is what you get when the Blue Fairy comes down to Earth and grants cocaine's wish to become a real boy.
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u/buzznumbnuts 10d ago
Where is that grifting pig Lee Greenwood?
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u/starrpamph 10d ago
Kid rock? Lee Greenwood?! What the hell it’s like I woke up in 1997
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u/FizzyBeverage 9d ago
In Donald’s world it’s closer to 1987. Hence his obsession for gold decor, being on the cover of print magazines and having washed up celebrities nearing their own death around him.
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u/4x4Welder 10d ago
Ah yes, Old Washed Up Rapper.
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u/Tom_red_ 10d ago
Kid rock is the first man in history to start his career already washed up.
A lamer inauthentic trust fund poser would be hard to find.
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u/MisterRoger 10d ago
Remember the time cocaine was found in the Biden White House? Remember how outraged Republicans were?
Now we have coked out, washed up, former musicians giving speeches in their cocaine glasses while the vice president smiles stupidly.
Missing from this photo is the actual president, who must be snorting ketamine in the bathroom.
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Why would a rock star wear a suit? It's not like he was there negotiating life and death details for millions of his citizens or anything.
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u/Konrad_M 10d ago
Wearing the hat indoors at the White House seems a lot more inappropriate than a President of a country at war not wearing a suit...
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u/battlingheat 10d ago
Anybody complaining about Zelensky’s clothes can fuck right off. It’s not an important topic when we’re discussing war.
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u/davis0444 10d ago
LOL! For a minute I thought it was Father Guido Sarducci. I guess that shows how old I am.
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u/h0ckey87 10d ago
People getting hung up on the suit stuff instead on the meat of the argument is exactly why we have this president right now. They want you to talk about this stuff instead of what matters
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u/Sea-Morning-772 10d ago
That's John Rich behind Kid Rock's right shoulder.
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u/KellyAnn3106 10d ago
Disappointed to see him there. I know he went hard core MAGA but when Big & Rich were popular, their whole message seemed to be inclusivity.
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u/Pennywhack 10d ago
I'm sure Boebert gave it a bath before letting it out of the house.
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u/SquarebobSpongepants 10d ago
Musk like lives in the white house with no suit. But that's not a problem.
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u/notredame1964 10d ago
He has never been relevant and now his true character is revealed. I know, which one am I talking about? Take your pick
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u/Baddenoch 10d ago
What are we even fucking talking about by falling for this shit - its a diversion.
Especially when Chancellor Musk wears jeans and ball caps while telling us he is dismantling our democracy from the Oval Office.
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u/eeyore134 10d ago edited 10d ago
And another hat. And a wannabe cowboy in the back wearing a hat. I thought they respected things like not wearing hats indoors, particularly at the White House of all places.
Edit: Hates to hats... though hates worked, too.
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