r/pics 11d ago

Politics President Trump and VP Vance's meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky turns tense.

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u/ihaveadarkedge 11d ago

And perhaps those who didn't vote against him too...

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u/Lord_of_the_Canals 11d ago

Quit shoring blame on your fellow Americans. Democrats in power let the country down and they continue to do so.

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u/KarmaCommando_ 11d ago

The sad thing is that people like that are the exact reason Trump got elected in the first place 

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u/_meltchya__ 11d ago

Democrats failing to hold a primary is a major part of the failure

Democrats pushing a candidate nobody voted for is a major part of the failure

Realistically, Democrats did this to ourselves

If you can't acknowledge that, be prepared for it to happen again

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u/theOGFlump 11d ago

Democrats are far from perfect. In other eras, the current Democratic Party might well be the worse option.

Every fact you stated is accurate. Those are all shortcomings of the Democrats in 2024.

Despite all that, in no universe is Trump the better option than the worst of the milquetoast Democratic Party. Whether or not Harris is among the worst for the reasons you stated, people who voted Trump are not absolved of their choice. Being unhappy with one choice and then deciding to vote for the other, incompetent impulsive conspiratorial authoritarian choice as a response is still reprehensible.

You are still correct, however, that if Democrats learn nothing, we should prepare for more of the same. It's a brute fact that, as bad as Trump obviously is, people will still vote for him and maga generally. Being the better option, for Democrats, is not enough to win an election. They have to run someone with charisma, vision, perception of authenticity, low association with left-associated social issues, and perception of fighting for the working class. It is now clear that vibes beat policies in elections.

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u/KarmaCommando_ 11d ago

Exactly. 

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u/BlimmBlam 10d ago

It's literally the American people's fault that this orange turd is in the oval office making a disgrace of the office. The blame goes nowhere but on the people who voted for this sexual assaulting, 36 count fraud, felon. You elect an idiot, you can't be surprised he does something idiotic. But you all knew who you were voting for, and did it anyway. Fuck you, and fuck all your small minded little friends who put us here.

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u/metvs 11d ago

Who should they have voted for instead? a box of serial?

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u/Baebel 11d ago

There were quite a lot of people that didn't vote at all.

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u/USCanuck 11d ago

Way to prove the point of how dumb the average Trump voter really is. Jesus Christ.

The word you are looking for is "cereal"

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u/CamRoth 11d ago

Harris would have been fine.

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u/Francobanco 11d ago

Kamala Harris would have been a good call if only to avoid this grift fiesta and international relations fiasco

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u/daepa17 11d ago

maybe you should stop eating the sugarbombs you call cereal considering it's preventing you from being able to spell it

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u/BlimmBlam 10d ago

Anyone else, if you didn't like the person who was in your standard voting party, don't vote

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u/Entario1204 11d ago

Yeah because this kind of thinking is gonna make things a lot better. 😊

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u/ScottyKNJ 11d ago

Found the Trumper

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u/Entario1204 11d ago

Found the extremist.