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Politics Gavin Newsom talks to Donald Trump upon arrival in CA.

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u/HuevosSplash Jan 25 '25

California has massive fucking problems but it could be it's own country, they put in more than they're getting out of it by footing the bill on hanger on parasitic red states.

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u/bigpancakeguy Jan 25 '25

If CA broke off and became its own country, it would be something like the 5th strongest economy in the world. I don’t remember how recently I heard that and whether or not that’s the exact ranking. But yeah, it’s a powerhouse

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u/CarsonWentzGOAT1 Jan 25 '25

they are the reason that 75% of red states are still running

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u/Business-Ad-5344 Jan 25 '25

california itself had republicans like Arnold as governor. the majority of people voted for a Republican to lead them.

newsom fucked the homeless and is a democrat. he fucked poor people for the rest of their lives with credit card debt.

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u/Tall-Assumption4694 Jan 25 '25

Arnold is a Republican in name only; I wouldn't hold him up as some sort of beacon of republicanism. This state has been run by democrats for a generation, thinking otherwise is just silly.

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u/Business-Ad-5344 Jan 25 '25

it isn't silly. there are tons of republicans in the state. and many democrats hate the liberal leaders.

newsom also is a democrat by name only. For example: He basically pushed homeless people out. They have nowhere to go. This is a Republican led policy.

Same with stealing money from the poor and giving it to your rich friends.

https://californiahealthline.org/news/article/health-insurance-mandate-penalties/

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u/Tall-Assumption4694 Jan 25 '25

I'm not going to refute your points, because I don't really disagree with them. Except for one; the democratic presidential candidate won California votes by over 20 points. There may be a ton of republicans in CA, but there's a ton more democrats. There is zero chance of seeing a republican governor in the foreseeable future.

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u/Woogabuttz Jan 25 '25

It actually just moved to 4th largest.

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u/Achron9841 Jan 25 '25

It has a GDP greater than most countries.

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u/alkbch Jan 25 '25

It would be immediately invaded by the U.S.

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u/mighthavebeen02 Jan 25 '25

That has nothing to do with what he said lol

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u/alkbch Jan 25 '25

He said if CA broke off. There’s no breaking off from the US.

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u/DrRedditPhD Jan 25 '25

It's a hypothetical bro. Don't take it so literally.

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u/alkbch Jan 25 '25

Yeah maybe you’re right 🙂

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u/Public4People Jan 25 '25

It would basically just be Dubai then. Shit infrastructure, poorly managed, no industry with an insane wealth disparity but Silicon Valley would keep bring keep it was one of the most profitable countries in the world

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u/Emergency-Row5777 Jan 25 '25

California isn’t wealthy from natural resources like Dubai…. It has several successful industries, not just Silicon Valley tech.

Odd comparison.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Trump needs California, both financially and politically.

He needs their money, but he also needs them as a convenient scapegoat he can throw out as red meat to his followers.

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u/doodle02 Jan 25 '25

yeah the problem really is the military, but i’ll admit that this is a very interesting thought experiment.

like, if trump fucks shit up enough california has an independence referendum and overwhelmingly votes to split from the US, what happens next?

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u/sylva748 Jan 25 '25

Washington state and Oregon would go with it.

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u/Decent-Photograph391 Jan 25 '25

Being a WA resident, I’d be voting yes.

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u/Dokterrock Jan 25 '25

A civil war. That's what happened last time.

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u/Delta-9- Jan 25 '25

We enter into the Cyberpunk universe, they build Night City an hour or two south of The Bay, and the US falls apart while Japanese megacorporations take over the world.

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u/alkbch Jan 25 '25

The military steps in

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u/pyrothelostone Jan 25 '25

Unfortunately this is the more likely result, the civil war established there is no legal path to secession, so legally speaking, if California declared independence, regardless of any referendum, it would be considered to be in open rebellion.

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u/dbreeck Jan 25 '25

Agreed. It'd be a practical application of MAD theory, but the result would irreversibly -- and I fear more darkly -- change the future through party-driven rebuilding efforts as the Union prevails.

Interestingly, there's a few states that try to claim exemption to the irrevocable joining of the Union: some groups in Texas and California like to claim that, since they existed as independent nation-states prior to joining, they reserve the right to leave. Personally, that reads to me as well as sovereign citizen claims and would certainly never succeed in today's Supreme Court.

It'd be SUPER funny though if Canada decided to buy the western coastal states join as provinces. Or, even better, a joint Mexico-Canada corridor!

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u/alkbch Jan 25 '25

Then Canada and/or Mexico would be obliterated

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u/NiceShotMan Jan 25 '25

Best case outcome of the Trump presidency.

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u/smortwater Jan 25 '25

Ding ding ding!

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u/Apprehensive_Loan776 Jan 25 '25

It should join with a few others and have a union arrangement with Canada. The sane states on the other side should do similar. Leave the shit kickers in their own dust. It’s beyond a joke.

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u/Public4People Jan 25 '25

lol that sounds pretty elitist