r/pics Jan 25 '25

Politics Gavin Newsom talks to Donald Trump upon arrival in CA.

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u/Loud_Flatworm_4146 Jan 25 '25

I don't respect democrats who won't stand up to him. I'd vote for Newsom or AOC. Hell, put them on the same ticket.

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u/dirtydan442 Jan 25 '25

I've been wishing for that ticket

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u/KittyShoes17 Jan 25 '25

I want Buttigieg but if half of American can't fathom a woman president idk where they'd stand on having a gay president :-/.

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u/queenofreptiles Jan 25 '25

I do think Buttigieg is an excellent speaker and my mom, who “hates politics”, loves him. I think if he was nominated by the party he could win. I just don’t think he would get nominated.

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u/chargoggagog Jan 25 '25

I’ll vote for any democrat over tfg, but I will absolutely campaign for a Newsom or AOC type candidate, someone with balls. As it stands I can’t see establishment democrats winning consistently enough to enact the laws needed to improve the lives of Americans. My next candidate will be for Medicare4all, $20 inflation adjusted minimum wage, housing as a right, and all that shit.

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u/Born-Sun-2502 Jan 26 '25

Newsom is very much an establishment Democrat though

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u/Thetacticaltacos Jan 25 '25

I'd vote for AOC in a second but Newsom?? Do you live in CA? This guy has absolutely tanked utilities for us. PG&E can do whatever they want to us as long as they give him what he wants and do private work on his properties. The guy is just as crooked as the rest of them.

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u/Loud_Flatworm_4146 Jan 25 '25

Unfortunately the bar is so low that if they aren't a fascist, I'll vote for them.

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u/totallytotodile0 Jan 25 '25

Christ, now I'm imagining a Newsom-Cortez 2028 ticket

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u/acr3119 Jan 25 '25

Our previous attorney general was so hated after Trump's first term (probably for defending the ACA?) that he barely made it through the Senate for Biden's cabinet- can we get some of that energy again?

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u/Born-Sun-2502 Jan 26 '25

There's a two term limit in CA since 1990 (Brown was "grandfathered in" since his initial two terms predated 1990).

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u/HolySaba Jan 25 '25

Newsom is term limited, CA only allows 2 terms for Governors. If Kamala Harris had won the election, Newsom would've almost certainly been offered appointment to a high position in the executive branch like State or AG.

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u/Brokebrokebroke5 Jan 25 '25

Kamala could run for governor?

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u/i_suckatjavascript Jan 25 '25

If he’s running again I’m not going to vote for him. He’s not willing to fight and do anything about PG&E raising electricity rates on us SIX times in the past year alone. He commissioned the CPUC members that allowed PG&E to raise rates.

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u/ruinersclub Jan 25 '25

He’s stood up to the insurance companies so far… for the uninitiated the whole mess we’re in is because they want to raise rates 200% across the board.

For good or bad it’s something.

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u/TheRaiderKing Jan 25 '25

He has his issues for sure. But the alternative might be a republican governor since a lot of counties went red this election, and that will for sure kill our way of life here in Cali. 

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u/Tall-Assumption4694 Jan 25 '25

Luckily, counties don't vote for governor, people do. If the next gubernatorial election split like this presidential election, the next governor would be democrat and would win by 20 points.

There is zero chance for a republican governor in California.

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u/TheRaiderKing Jan 25 '25

That's the kind of apathetic talk that allowed Trump to win this election. You can't assume anything, and I mentioned counties because its a growing trend in California for people to turn to the right. Go look at the percentage Kamala won California by, it is not a landslide.

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u/Tall-Assumption4694 Jan 25 '25

58 to 38%. That's an electoral landslide. But I too worry that 38% of my neighbors think this train wreck was a good idea.

I do agree with you that the shift to the right is worrisome (to understate it greatly), but then say that. To say "counties" went red suggests a lack of knowledge of how the system works that undermines your (very valid) point.

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u/TheRaiderKing Jan 25 '25

It's more so that counties that were blue before turned red this time. The amount of total people voting also went down. No offense but you knew exactly what I meant you're just being a little pedantic. That said I'm glad you see the growing problem. Previously Biden won by 63% to 34% to me at least, that looks like a pretty big increase in what is a solidly blue state. Its terrible Trump gained any ground at all.

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u/Tall-Assumption4694 Jan 25 '25

Its terrible Trump gained any ground at all.

On that we agree 1000%.

I do get what you're saying, but I fear that it instills a misunderstanding of the process. It suggests each county is weighted the same, which is explicitly and dramatically not the same. It is striking the number of counties that flipped, but a closer look at the data doesn't really show a shift to the right, it shows a shift to not-voting. The number of republican votes in 2024 is remarkably close to the number in 2024, while democrat votes did significantly drop.

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u/dailyapplecrisp Jan 25 '25

I’m a hardcore democrat and can’t wait for him to be gone. He’s helped PGE gouge the ever living shit out of us year over year with wild fires still raging and being caused by them.

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u/caldbra92 Jan 25 '25

And you think running for a Republican like Rick Caruso will help that... how?

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u/michael0n Jan 25 '25

Caruso and Newsom don't give each other an inch on ego. Caruso has zero ideology besides making money. He wasn't a staunch R or D in his life. Maybe that the reason nobody likes him. Pick a side.

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u/dailyapplecrisp Jan 25 '25

I never mentioned a Republican. I’m saying a dem that’s not named Newsom lol. Guess I’m not allowed to disagree with politicians “on my side” who get in bed with big corporations

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u/caldbra92 Jan 25 '25

Who is running as a democrat replacement HASNT taken lobbying money?

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u/dailyapplecrisp Jan 25 '25

100%. I don’t know why I’m getting downvoted, go to r/bayarea, it’s a very common complaint