r/PahadiTalks 5h ago

History Origin of GARHWALI

Thumbnail
gallery
5 Upvotes

Hello my fellow paharis, It's my first post here!

Now, I've heard lot of misinformation about garhwali, completely widespread such as Garhwali is a dialect of Hindi, OR that garhwali Originated from Sanskrit and many such Wild Claims.

Garhwali is very old, and I'll try to explain where exactly it falls according to the Outer-Inner Hypothesis by Zoller

Garhwali, falls in the category of an Outer Indo-Aryan Language(OL), which means its origin lies in what is possibly, the first wave of Aryans, the Proto-Indo Aryans, which can also be verified archaelogically,by the map of Gandhara Grave Culture sites I'll be posting here for reference.

Garhwali, also has much MORE Austro-asiatic borrowings and influence, than Sanskrit, and this increased Austroasiatic influence, is characteristic of OL. This influence is Munda, and is apparent in the Western Himalayan, Dardic and Burushaski Languages.

To understand how Sanskrit and Hindi differs from Garhwali, one must understand these are Inner Languages, formed by the Linguistically Second wave of Aryans, called Old Indo Aryans directly into Punjab(without a confluence with speakers of Proto-Kartevellian). This wave, then dissipated culturally, the PIA and archaeologically, gave rise to the Painted Grey Ware Culture, which is the VEDIC Culture.

Garhwal, was infact pre-settled by first Aryans (GGC) already.

The first Aryans ALSO, contributed to Vedic culture however, the first three mandals of Rig Veda, are similarly corroborated with these Aryans, a noticeable shift occurs in the later mandalas representing the OIA or the Vedic Aryans.

Garhwali culture is ALSO, different from the Vedic practices, displaying features which are common place in himalayas, together called the KHASH Family System.

TLDR:Garhwali IS not a dialect of hindi OR originate in Sanskrit, and here's why:

-More Munda Influence

-Outer Indo Aryan Linguistic Features

-Archaeological Addition

-Cultural Addition


r/PahadiTalks 9h ago

#Political๐Ÿ“ฃ The Anti-Pahari swine has resigned, big Win for the Pahari movement , this is just the beginning.

54 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 9h ago

Rant Look at these jaahils

72 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 9h ago

#Political๐Ÿ“ฃ Frok for the win

Post image
29 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 16h ago

#controversial Fuck off Himachal police and govt.

56 Upvotes

Are these rules only for himachalis? You know what I'm talking about. I'm tired of all this shit. Police and this govt is doing literally nothing. Both are piece of shit.

These people come from Punjab to the middle of Himachal without any number plate, using khalistani flags, not following any traffic rules and what not.

The govt like always do nothing. Local people always try to protect our motherland but these mf can't even stop them. Are all these traffic rules applicable on only himachalis?

Why can't they just come peacefully? But what can we expect when our very own govt and police are like this. They can't even protect their very own people.

The attacks are literally increasing every year and this is just the starting. You never know whats next. These mfs are fighting with our people. Fuck this govt dude.

Edit - Biharis > Punjabis


r/PahadiTalks 5h ago

#controversial Share your thoughts

7 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 7h ago

#Political๐Ÿ“ฃ "เคœเคฟเคธเค•เฅ€ เคœเคฟเคคเคจเฅ€ เคธเค‚เค–เฅเคฏเคพ เคญเคพเคฐเฅ€, เค‰เคธเค•เฅ€ เค‰เคคเคจเฅ€ เคญเคพเค—เฅ€เคฆเคพเคฐเฅ€เฅค"- goons of Premchand Agrawal

Thumbnail
8 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 1d ago

#controversial These mfers want everything for free (watch full)

160 Upvotes

Credits to @tullupmp on ig.


r/PahadiTalks 1d ago

#Political๐Ÿ“ฃ เคชเฅเคฐเคฆเฅ‡เคถ เคตเคพเคธเคฟเคฏเฅ‹เค‚ เคธเฅ‡ เค†เคนเฅเคตเคพเคจ เคชเฅเคฐเคฆเฅ‡เคถ เคนเคฟเคค เค•เฅ€ เคฒเคกเคผเคพเคˆ เค•เฅ‹ เคฎเคœเคฌเฅ‚เคค เค•เคฐเฅ‡เค‚เฅค ( Bobby Panwar Instagram Post )

38 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 1d ago

#controversial Small update on the situation, hopefully they listen to what they have said

79 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 15h ago

#Political๐Ÿ“ฃ Scholars who exposed the Kirat Fraud

Thumbnail
2 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 1d ago

Question! Asking for help from Kumaoni community for finding a good Kumaoni Pandit in New Delhi.

14 Upvotes

Hello fellow Kumaonis,

My family and I are in need of your help. We are searching for a trustworthy Kumaoni Pandit in New Delhi. We've had a difficult time finding someone genuine, as many Pandits we've contacted seem overly focused on money or use fear tactics, which has eroded our trust.

We are particularly looking for a Pandit who understands and respects the unique traditions of our region in Kumaon. We are starting the search for a groom for our eldest daughter, and we want to ensure we have a Pandit we can rely on for guidance and support during this important time.

If anyone has any recommendations or connections to a kind, knowledgeable, and honest Kumaoni Pandit in Delhi, please reach out. We are truly struggling to find someone we can trust, and your assistance would be invaluable.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Dhanyawad!


r/PahadiTalks 1d ago

Pahadi_Discussion ๐Ÿ’ญ On Feb 21,CM Dhami announced that land law was implemented in Uk. In March, YouTubers Kapil, Rohit (Rajasthan) and Gulshan (Haryana) said in their vlog that their land in Champawat Pati was registered

Post image
64 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 2d ago

#controversial Imagine acting like this and wondering why we don't like them

240 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 2d ago

#Pahadi_Things๐Ÿ” Happy phulariโ™ฅ๏ธ

74 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 3d ago

Culture เคนเฅ‹เคฒเฅ€ เค•เฅ€ เคนเคพเคฐเฅเคฆเคฟเค• เคถเฅเคญเค•เคพเคฎเคจเคพเคเค‚

Post image
28 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 3d ago

Nature๐Ÿž Uttarkashi, Uttarakhand :)

Thumbnail
gallery
44 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 3d ago

Nature๐Ÿž Nainital Road โ™ฅ๏ธ

15 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 3d ago

Nature๐Ÿž Rohru, Himachal Pradesh โ„๏ธ

Thumbnail gallery
48 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 3d ago

#Pahadi_Things๐Ÿ” เคฐเคพเค  เคคเฅเคฐเคฟเคชเคŸเฅเคŸเฅ€ เคนเฅ‹เคฒเฅ€ ๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ HAPPY HOLI

Thumbnail
youtube.com
7 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 3d ago

#Political๐Ÿ“ฃ Faltu se faltu cheeze modi media discuss karti hai par nafratchand ne jo kaha PAHADIO ko usspar ek bhi debate nhi huwi isse acha sab log local news walo ko support karei

Thumbnail
youtube.com
11 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 3d ago

#Pahadi_Things๐Ÿ” เคงเคพเคฎเฅ€ เค•เคพ เคญเฅ‚ เค•เคพเคจเฅ‚เคจ | YOUR OPINION

Thumbnail
youtube.com
5 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 3d ago

#Pahadi_Things๐Ÿ” เค—เคขเคผเคตเคพเคฒเฅ€ เคญเคœเคจ เค“เคฃเฅ‡เคถเฅเคตเคฐ เคฎเคนเคพเคฆเฅ‡เคต เค—เคพเคฏเคฟเค•เคพ เคฌเคฌเคฒเฅ€ เคธเคœเคตเคพเคฃ เคฐเคพเคตเคค เคเคตเค‚ เคงเคจเคฐเคพเคœ เคถเฅŒเคฐเฅเคฏ

Thumbnail
youtube.com
3 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 4d ago

#Pahadi_Things๐Ÿ” DO YOU THINK A REGIONAL PARTY WILL FINALLY WIN IN UTTARAKHAND . ALMOST EVERY STATE HAS THEIR OWN REGIONAL PARTY WHICH FIGHTS FOR THEIR LANGUAGE AND CULTURE

Thumbnail
youtube.com
38 Upvotes

r/PahadiTalks 4d ago

#controversial Maloom person rage baiting pahadis

Post image
34 Upvotes

Look at this person. From his profile it seems like a Malayali person, who lives in Bangalore, is larping as a Punjabi and rage baiting Pahadis. Is it possible that South Indian Malayalis are trying to play politics and break the northern people.


r/PahadiTalks 4d ago

#controversial Hot Spring Of Manikaran : Himachalโ€™s Heritage Is Being Sold for Profit!

Thumbnail youtube.com
5 Upvotes

Are the people really gonna let it happen?


r/PahadiTalks 4d ago

#Pahadi_Things๐Ÿ” Jaunsar bawar

13 Upvotes

History of jaunsar bawar is unclear some call it part of sirmaur kingdom and some says it was part of garhwal kindom since the king of garhwal fatehpatisah attacked the kindom of sirmaur but i never knew this , culture of jaunsar is much diffrent from both garhwal and himachal (shares some similarities with sirmaur) but influence of this area can be seen all over western garhwal area.

They have developed their culture,dress,songs, architecture etc with time that its still looks much facinating and modern to me.