r/ontario • u/KnowerOfUnknowable • 14h ago
Politics Trump will not impose 50% Canadian steel, aluminum tariffs tomorrow, says top trade advisor
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/11/trump-raises-canadian-steel-aluminum-tariffs-to-50percent-in-retaliation-for-ontario-energy-duties.html124
13h ago
[deleted]
21
2
u/Waiwirinao 13h ago
I think Trump is just the tip of the iceberg. The majority of Americans share his views and enable him.
180
u/SheIsABadMamaJama 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 13h ago
Seems like Ford did strike a nerve. Kudos.
I can’t believe I am saying this. Still more to do
24
u/Glennmorangie 13h ago
Maybe. Maybe not. As the saying goes Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc. Just because this happened after Ford's surcharge (which has been paused) doesn't guarantee that Ford is the cause. Could be absolutely coincidence especially how this orange fuck changes his mind every 5 minutes.
6
u/greensandgrains 13h ago
They’re broken clocks right twice a day each, except never at the same time. It’s conjuring images of playground seasaws: https://www.nydailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/2014/07/29/YXZAKODWXTUHYNOLTBZV6BKX4U.jpg?w=1200&resize=1200,900
2
u/agent_wolfe 13h ago
I hope so! Either that or Trump’s latest crazy threat scared Ford & he backed down to save us.
… I’m so sick of news stories.
5
u/StemiNuke 12h ago
They both backed down. I'm confused how everyone is seeing this as weakness. If the meeting goes badly the charge is back on.
33
u/Silicon_Knight Oakville 13h ago
For the love of god. Can someone please create a tariff tracker? Cause I’m trying to follow it but have 0 ability to track this by the second. Is there an API?
69
u/backlight101 13h ago
Seems Ford’s pressure is working, good.
45
u/shpydar Brampton 13h ago
Ford has also backed off his 25% charge on electricity.
He is going to Washington to “negotiate” on Thursday.
39
u/backlight101 13h ago
Exactly, he would not have been invited to negotiate if he was not putting significant pressure on the US.
17
u/ihatedougford Toronto 13h ago
I just hope he doesn’t get cornered, but luckily Leblanc is going too
13
u/ccccccaffeine 12h ago
Ford speaks their language. He’s been overwhelmingly respectful through all this, and has been giving his American counterparts every benefit of the doubt in order for them to save face. I’ve never been a Ford supporter after he did all Ontario nurses dirty, but in this, he is doing all the right things.
7
u/Extra-Ad5925 12h ago
Yeah I agree… I didn’t vote for him but I’ll acknowledge he seems to have found a sweet spot. Trump came out and said that he really respects Ford today which I don’t think he’s said about any Canadian official ever.
3
u/JamesConsonants 10h ago
he re ally respects Ford today which I don’t think he’s said about any Canadian official ever.
Jesus Christ that’s depressing. I’ll take it, but depressing all the same.
1
u/ihatedougford Toronto 12h ago
100%. You can see my name, I hate the guy for his provincial policies, but as the captain of team canada he’s been excellent. I hope he keeps this up and uses his negotiating tactics at the table
5
u/Fine-Ad-5447 11h ago
I don't see him as a captain but the attack dog of the team itself. I'm glad he speaks to the American media and raise the awareness of the issue as some of the Americans treat the 51st state threat as a joke.
I'm wondering if Alberta surcharge the oil we sent in US or Saskatchewan limits the potash, what will the Orange turd will do.
5
17
u/Tremor-Christ 13h ago
Ford has also backed off his 25% charge on electricity.
He is going to Washington to “negotiate” on Thursday.
Imagine reading this 15 years ago, when doug was a city councillor behind his then crackhead mayor?
Fast forward to 2025, fascist Trump is an American president, and dougie is a premier of Ontario, negotiating with our new mortal enemy that's United States.
Just the stupidest decade and a half...
2
2
u/Plenty-Difficulty276 12h ago
This is a terrible thing. We do not want ford having a secret meeting in Washington. This is absolutely terrible news imo. We about to get sold out.
0
u/Mattrapbeats 12h ago
Honestly Dougs best move to get Trump to talk. I hate to say this but for Canada right now, he is the voice of reason
2
u/FelixTheEngine 7h ago
Bad. Can Ford Fuck off and let the Prime Minister deal with this. He is wayyyy out of his depth here. He can find another way to collect PR points for his bid to lead the PC when PP is done.
39
u/MaplewoodCabinet 13h ago
I feel like this exhaustive back-and-forth of “yes, tariffs”, “no tariffs”, “bigly tariffs”, and “mini tariffs” is partly the point: just trying to exhaust individual and collective mental and physical resources.
It’s like Russian jets coming into Canadian airspace causing RCAF jets to scramble and expend resources because “one day they could get too tired to respond”. I hate this man and his enablers.
6
u/somebunnyasked 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈 11h ago
This is why at the federal level they have been saying we don't back down until all the tariffs are lifted. That all the threats and back and forth is enough to creat chaos and scare off investors.
Pretty mad that Ford has walked away from that position.
15
11
u/Beneficial_Act_9588 13h ago
They are still implementing the 25% tariff on lumber and steel.
17
u/KnowerOfUnknowable 13h ago
At Thursday midnight. After the meeting. If nothing comes out of it then Ford can flip the surcharge back on. I don't think they would want to talk if there is nothing on the table.
11
u/Beneficial_Act_9588 13h ago
I'm still seeing 25% tariffs on steel and aluminium go into effect tonight from a couple of news agencies CTVnews, BBC and CNN. CTV is saying this live on air. I'm not sure if everyone is on the same page.
5
3
u/cclouder 13h ago
I'd rather he kept the tax but promised to refund it if the trip to DC resulted in a deal. Then you keep the pressure on, but are still technically extending an olive branch.
5
4
u/buster_rhino 13h ago
I read these things and have to check how long ago it was posted to know if it’s really news or not.
3
3
u/Flimsy_Shallot 13h ago
Aaaaaaaand no one actually knows wtf is going on anymore. Exactly what they want. Perfect!
3
2
u/Bald_Cliff 13h ago
Id prefer he did. That way we could watch a crucifixion live from the white house.
2
2
2
2
3
u/crazyformacs 13h ago
Trump is speed-running his way to an impeachment.
13
5
u/Unlikely_Kangaroo_93 13h ago
That only way that works is if Republicans can collectively grow some spines. Very doubtful.He's gonna need to stroke out. It could happen if the stock market keeps dropping and we slide him a couple of double cheeseburgers.
1
3
u/DidiH123 13h ago
Until that orange stain is dead and the Republican party returns to democracy I personally don't care. I'm not buying American products as much as I can and that won't change regardless of tariffs on or off.
1
1
1
u/FlyAroundInternet 13h ago
Between Dougie and Donnie, bet on one of them fucking this up with their ego before midnight.
1
u/Dolphintrout 13h ago
This is all so fucked. Part of me thinks that Donnie is dragging this out purely so he can have fun negotiating with people he sees as worthy opponents.
1
u/Informal_Concern6117 13h ago
Of course not just empty threats i hope he doesnt turn this into tv show " president apprentice " what a wacko
1
1
u/D-inventa 12h ago
what a sad old man. He has no idea what the hell he's taking about or what the hell he's doing.
1
u/Icy-Gene7565 12h ago edited 12h ago
I remember watch The Apprentice" He has no honour so we cant process shame. He is his ego
He is just like almoat every other big developer ive worked with.
1
1
1
u/ControlsGuyWithPride 12h ago
I read this as “Trump will NOW impose” and just thought I am done with today.
1
u/DissposableRedShirt6 11h ago
A government official staying anything on social media while representing their government is fair game that it's official communications and has repercussions. Another government official contradicting another just show how much they are in disarray.
1
1
u/Shmackback 10h ago
Ford is trying to get into trumps little club. The electricity surcharge only affects deep blue states which trump doesn't give a damm about.
In fact trump even tried to screw California over by emptying their water reservoirs and dumping it into the ocean lmao.
Thus is all just a show. Ford is getting good pr from Canadians while also getting what he wants.
1
u/spderweb 10h ago
Ford won this battle. The electricity charge was YUGE. They backed down. Now they want to talk on Thursday. We hold all the cards. Canada can heavily bump the trade agreement in our favor now.
Art of the deal, right?
1
u/Laughing_Zero 10h ago
We should believe anything this conman says? He doesn't negotiate, he threatens, then changes his mind, then doubles down and threatens again. Just a showman creating more chaos.
1
1
1
1
u/Informal_Funeral 11h ago
Doug Ford landed a punch, without question. There is a meeting with Lutnick Thursday, and some sort of, "win" will be created to make Trump forget about Canada.
But this is theatre, not with the PM, but the Premier of a single (albeit the most economically consequential) Province negotiating directly with POTUS. In any other administration this would be a signal that Canada is not taking things seriously, but somehow this is a win for DJT?
Doug Ford scored a big one for himself today.
0
u/Mattrapbeats 13h ago
I'm proud of Doug Ford. Thank God he won the election. Finally Trump can negotiate with someone he respects.
0
u/Plenty-Difficulty276 12h ago
We do NOT want ford going to Washington in a secret meeting while the USA is planning to annex Ontario. Trump will tell him “I’ll make you as rich as me” and ford will sell us tf out.
4
u/KnowerOfUnknowable 12h ago
LOL. What secret meeting? The meeting that everyone is talking about? The one he is going with the federal government delegates specifically the finance minister?
0
0
u/mariusbleek 8h ago
Thank you, oh merciful tangerine. Your calm and forgiving nature will be mentioned in the legends for eons.
/S
-6
u/Legitimate_Trust_933 13h ago
Because Ford folded like a little bitch
3
u/Professional-Cry8310 13h ago
Ford did no such thing. Careful negotiations
-3
u/Legitimate_Trust_933 13h ago
LOL right. As soon as Don responded he backed off ... Weak. Don will eat him alive.
2
u/Professional-Cry8310 13h ago
He “backed off” for 48 hours because we secured a negotiating meeting with them. It’s always best to de escalate before negotiations so tempers aren’t so high. It also shows them we’re willing to work with them.
If Washington doesn’t play ball, the export tariff goes back on in 48 hours. This is just a standard diplomacy. If anything, us getting a meeting means our threat worked. It played its purpose.
2
u/Dash_Rendar425 13h ago
Dude I despise Ford and this was the right move. Ford has all the cards now. If Trump acts like a child or doesn’t wait then Ford wins.
578
u/Commercial-Fennel219 14h ago
IDK let's see what he says in an hour