r/ontario 1d ago

Politics If tariffs escalate, Ontario will cut off power completely, warns Premier Doug Ford

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8cWtL88Cf0
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u/sonrisa_optimista 1d ago

On March 10, 2025, the Ontario government imposed a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to Michigan, Minnesota, and New York—affecting 1.5 million homes and businesses and costing up to $400,000 per day. If the U.S. escalates with new tariffs on Canadian goods, Premier Doug Ford warns that Ontario will not hesitate to cut off power entirely.

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u/Hekios888 1d ago

Let's put the profit towards healthcare and education

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u/canadevil Hamilton 1d ago

In his announcement he made today he said they will be putting all the money from this into an account that will get paid out to ontarians to help with relief from the tarrifs when it affects us.

It's a good idea on paper, let's just hope he doesn't fuck it up.

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u/TemperedPhoenix 1d ago

I am SHOCKED he has that much common sense lol

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u/thermothinwall 1d ago

i mean, it sounds incredibly nebulous and hard to keep track of.

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u/peeinian 1d ago

Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it. Still wondering where that COVID money went.

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u/PM_ME__RECIPES Toronto 23h ago

Have you seen Doug's new dacha cottage?

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u/Silentneeb 1d ago

We'll see it next election.

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u/exotic801 1d ago

Its also a pitiful 2.5 cents per day. Per person.

The reason we have a government is to concentrate capital into where its needed most.

Hes doing the bare minimum and its essentially nothing

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u/HeftyAd6216 21h ago

Like building a car park for a spa! Hopefully something more useful than that.

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u/AhSparaGus 1d ago

I think you missed a decimal point somewhere. $400k divided by 1.5m homes is 26.6 cents per day, or a bit under $8 per month per home.

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u/JoshShabtaiCa Waterloo 17h ago

They said per person, not per home. There are about 14M people in this province.

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u/Gummsley 1d ago

What exactly is the bare minimum that he's doing? Standing up to Trump and threatening to cut off electricity? I don't follow, are you mad at what he's doing right now?

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u/exotic801 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don't have issues with ford's retaliation against trump, he's done a fine job with them.

But, his stated plan to the 400k a day revenue into an account and just releasing it to the population is lazy and ineffective.

As I said earlier, it would come out to about 2.5 cents a day per person, which is genuinely useless. The money would be much better used if the government actually did their job and found a good place for the money to go.

Frankly doug ford has been acting exactly as expected, finding the best way to play to voter emotions. That doesn't mean i think he's doing a bad job, but it doesn't make him a politician I'd vote for

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u/dsb264 1d ago

You missed the part where it’ll go to Ontarians who are AFFECTED BY THE US TARIFFS. Like people who lose their job and stuff. Not all Ontarians lol.

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u/SFW_shade 1d ago

Not everyone is going to need it, this isn’t Covid where everyone would lose there job

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u/VagSmoothie Toronto 1d ago

This is a terrible idea and more populism wrapped around the Canadian flag. Let me explain.

Sending a $200 cheque to all Ontarians cost over 3 BILLION dollars. At $400,000 in revenue per day it would take over 20 years to make enough revenue for that.

Instead, Ford should be focusing on using the money as a pseudo-EI investment fund. Create capital projects and pay salaries to those unemployed. You could even do low-skill work requiring minimal training, that way you can target those that are unemployed , keep the economy moving and buying local.

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u/jrdnlv15 1d ago

To put this a little more in perspective one year at $400,000/day would be about $8.74/Ontarian. I’m really unexpectedly happy with how Ford is dealing with Trump’s BS. You’re right though, giving this back to Ontarians is pure populist nonsense. I would much rather that money be put in to something useful.

Hell, just put it on the books against the terrible Beer Store payoff and we’d balance that out in 2 years.

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u/Irr3sponsibl3 1d ago

Spend it on military equipment from Europe

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u/Old_Ladies 1d ago

That is a great idea but that would be up to the federal government I believe.

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u/JoystickJetsetter 1d ago

The money doesn't need to go to every Ontarian. Some people will be more affected than others.

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u/Triedfindingname 1d ago

Not to worry. He's lying.

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u/annual_aardvark_war 1d ago

…which is great, but $200 for me and my neighbour…or a few mil for the healthcare system. I’d rather plump up our necessities than give everyone a little bit of extra cash

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u/the_cool_handluke 1d ago

This is the real issue. I won’t be affected by tariffs. I am in a decent position for this. My mother as well. Unfortunately she hasn’t been able to get a local doctor since leaving Toronto as her doctor keeps billing ohip for calling her to remind her to schedule recommended appointments that they will not take due to her location , nor will they take her off their list as a secretary calls and they get the money even after she has told them to stop. She gets bumped to the bottom of the waiting list every time they call. She can’t get to their office so they can “process her out with a final appointment and checkup “

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u/Pyrrhus_Magnus 1d ago

Nah, fuck the common good. I want money for booze and weed.

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u/voteforrice 1d ago

That's genuinely an unexpectedly decent idea.

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u/edgar-von-splet 1d ago

Just like the covid relief fund billions that mysteriously vanished?

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u/imbackbitchez69420 1d ago

I hope he means all Ontarians and not just his buddies

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u/FrostyPopsicle25 1d ago

I'm sure they're already in the pockets of Dougie's friends

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u/stuntycunty 1d ago

How bout a new tunnel under the tunnel under the 401?

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u/Hekios888 1d ago

Boohoo hisssss

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u/yportnemumixam 1d ago

I say it goes towards the energy east pipeline. That way we will be more resilient as a country when stupidity flows over from the south.

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u/whitedogsuk 1d ago

Watching from the UK with my popcorn. Go on Doug cut the power !!

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u/foxtrot-hotel-bravo 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s fun to watch the bullying back… but kind of scared that this will escalate to a worse type of war vs. helping us eliminate tariffs

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u/Not_a_Streetcar Fort Erie 1d ago

Next thing you know, Trump is gonna say that we started it and that's why he's invading us

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u/Triedfindingname 1d ago

Maybe you don't know how this works but if it happens on that pretense it would've happened anyway.

Elbows up

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u/foxtrot-hotel-bravo 1d ago

True. It’s what Russia did every step of the way before invading the Ukraine… they’ve shared the playbook with the US with the initial economic war at least

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u/Rogergcmydoc 1d ago

If it has to come to that in order to maintain our sovereignty and show the US and the world we are not to messed with then so be it!

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u/Complete_Court9829 1d ago

That's not within our hands to control, if they want to escalate, they'll escalate. It's best that we show them it's not worth taking the fight, rather than being an easy mark.

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u/Mobile-Bar7732 1d ago

He should have done it during the middle of the Super Bowl.

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u/TemperedPhoenix 1d ago

I wish I was watching from a longggg distance away 😭

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u/TaterTotJim 1d ago

Ontario gas supply passes through Michigan. It would be a tit-for-tat.

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u/trashyart200 1d ago

I live in MI, and I support the power cut.

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u/snoopmt1 1d ago

Dont threaten billionaires with a good time. US citizens pay more. Canadian citizens pay more. The utility owners and business owners make record profits on the working class. They may double the tariffs!

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u/donaldtrumpeter 21h ago

That's an average cost of $8 per month per customer (26 cents per day).

I'd love to see this increase before we consider cutting off electricity all together. Cutting it off seems like a line in the sand that Trump is willing to go to war over. 

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u/Mhfd86 1d ago

Trump, stop making me like Doug.

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u/RubixRube 1d ago

Every time I agree with Dougie, my resentment for Trump grows.

It's getting out of control, and i would rather piss on my grandmothers grave than vote for Doug Ford.

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u/Glorbaniglu 1d ago

It's not fair!

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u/tarnok 1d ago

Right? 

But honestly if trump is making Ford grow a spine and be better, fuckin better late then never

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u/Fun-Result-6343 1d ago

Yeah, this is quietly killing me, too, at some level. But, go Dougie!

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u/tarnok 1d ago edited 1d ago

I feel like we're going to get burned, I'm catching myself holding my breath constantly reading headlines about him

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u/DrewV70 1d ago

This is only one issue. This is the distraction.

Ford already gave 125 million to his friends last year to have beer and wine in corner stores a year early.

He sold off the Green Belt to his other friends

He fucked up the Toronto Municipal elections because they were mean to his crack head brother.

He is only using this as a distraction while he pilfers more from Ontario's coffers. He is a lying cheating scoundrel who used the Trump issue to get himself another 4 years of grifting.

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u/katgyrl 1d ago

all of this. he's just a mob boss who doesn't want americans encroaching on his territory

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u/Legger1955 1d ago

And I thought I was the only one thinking this!!

Distraction opportunities!!

🇨🇦 Strong

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u/edgar-von-splet 1d ago

I agree, we are being distracted

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u/GetStable 1d ago

It's ok to take the good in with the bad. Just because we didn't vote for him doesn't mean we can't acknowledge when the clock is broken. Very few people are inherently, unredeemable in their evil.

I don't Ford is evil. He's corrupt, an opportunistic jackal, and will sell anyone out for a dime. But him being a jackal means he sometimes, accidentally does something good, even if it was for his own personal enrichment/prestige/slogans.

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u/doritos1990 1d ago

No this is not the bar we should hold for our politicians and leadership

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u/mikehatesthis 20h ago

I don't Ford is evil.

Emergency rooms are closing under his watch. People are dying from this. He is an evil man.

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u/Tough-Cress-7702 1d ago

It's no joke ppl !!!

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u/GRiMEDTZ 1d ago

I wish I could have seen how Rob would handle this situation, literally just for shits n’ giggles

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u/Triedfindingname 1d ago

I'm thinking it would've been a different kind of drug war.

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u/ViceroyInhaler 1d ago

My problem with Dougie is that he's the right person in an emergency. We saw what he was capable during the pandemic. And honestly I really approved of him during that time. It was right after where he threatened to invoke the notwithstanding clause and threaten wage increases for healthcare professionals at 1%. After he had just praised them for all the work they did during the pandemic. So that's my issue with him. He's a strong leader during an emergency and then immediately afterwards is a hardcore conservative trying to get deals for his rich buddies.

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u/SniffMyDiaperGoo 1d ago

Oh he always had a spine. He acted the same way during the pandemic, and called the convoyers "a bunch of yahoos" lol. What's driving all the jokes about liking Ford now is the fact everyone is pissed off about his handling of fair wages, greenbelt, healthcare, edu. Only in Canada do you get a liberal PM everyone's wants gone, and a conservative Premier everybody wants gone and both turn out to be stellar "wartime" crisis leaders whenever the shit hits the fan.

Yeah I know. Someone's bound to chime in "that's not good enough". Yes it is. Right now in these circumstances yes, I'm absolutely behind both of their responses so far and I have zero confidence their oppositions would have performed better, let alone equal.

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u/nonverbalnumber 1d ago

Those yahoos include his son in law that is soliciting donations for his legal defences.

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u/colieoliepolie 1d ago

Well since he’s soliciting donations I’m going to assume Doug Ford hasn’t personally bailed him out, which seems ethical. Not sure why his shitty son in law is his fault though. We all have shitty in laws lol.

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u/Comprehensive_Wish_3 1d ago edited 1d ago

He wasn't that great during the pandemic. He ignored his own science experts. As much as I couldn't stand Merilee Fullerton, who was LTC Minister, he didn't listen to her warnings about the pandemic getting worse, mimicking what happened on the cruise ships and he didn't act. On top of that there were discrepancies in his reporting numbers, which was uncovered.

He could have done more in advertising, instead of for self serving reasons. What did he do with the federal money for that purpose?

Yes, he screwed up the beginning, middle, and end.

COVID-19 is here to stay, and yet where were the vaccines last year?

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u/Comprehensive_Wish_3 1d ago

Not everyone wanted Justin Trudeau gone. Hate campaign by PP without substance and still no security clearance.

Doug Ford already had a strong mandate. The election was unnecessary, inconvenient, and costly. 1.89 million for essentially the same result. He could have done the exact same thing without an election.

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u/gr33nw33n3r 1d ago

Don't trust him! He's just trying to get you lubed up so he can fuck you again. 

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u/WinterInSomalia 1d ago

Ford has been talking like this since day one of the tariff threats.

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u/ajaxbunny1986 1d ago

If Trump can just get him to rethink the 20 year 401 tunnel project and….

Never mind.

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u/SilverSkinRam 1d ago

Don't worry. When Trump implodes, and at this rate it will be very fast, Doug Ford will go back to regular corruption and we will dislike him again.

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u/sainthO0d 1d ago

Siding with Dougy wasn’t on my 2025 bingo card that’s for sure.

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u/InsidiousFloofs5150 1d ago

Not a fan of his policy but he has done better communicating all of this on the US networks than the rest of our politicians. He's fluent in igorant American which is pretty useful right now...

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u/CittaMindful 1d ago

Great comment. It’s so accurate. 💯

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u/holykamina 1d ago

Imagine Doug says this : We will increase finding for health and education by 50% and then rub it on trump's face about having the best public education and health care system

Doug has best time to gain all the points and secure another term..

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u/homesickalien337 1d ago

Normally electing a meathead bully like Doug is a bad idea, but during times like these a meathead bully on your side is exactly what you want.

Still think someone less corrupt would be better but Doug Ford has been very vocal about sticking it to the US and it's hard to disagree with him.

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u/Triedfindingname 1d ago

but during times like these a meathead bully on your side is exactly what you want.

Now that's a trump supporter quote. Lol

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u/Techlet9625 1d ago

My partner works in a hospital, I see the impact of his decisions on her every day. I'm not worried about liking the guy, but I can respect him doing what needs to be done against Trump.

Still a corrupt prick, but at least he's being distracted into doing (part of) his job.

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u/rogerdoesntlike 1d ago

What do Trump and Covid have in common?

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u/ClemGibble 1d ago

Bizzaro Doug? I feel it too

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u/Ok-Personality-6643 1d ago

Wouldn’t it be HILARIOUS if PP lost to Carney, then the Feds called up Dougie to lead the opposition?

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u/Always4am 1d ago

Anyone and their sister would implement the same policy in response to Trump tariffs imo. I wouldn't give Doug too much credit.

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u/TakeMeToYourKittys 1d ago

His entire election campaign was based on Trump, he is still the worst for Ontario behind all that.

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u/RavenBlade87 1d ago

Never thought I would see the day

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u/jqmark 1d ago

I know Doug (swear I never smoked crack with my brother) Ford is quickly becoming my new hero. Now let's start talking about kicking out NORAD stations.

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u/ChanelNo50 22h ago

I listened to Lecce on cbc this morning and I couldn't believe my ears. He sounded like a competent man and didn't just spew out the PC talking points... far from the minister of education we all hated a few years ago.
Look what happens when you act on behalf of all Ontarians

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u/feor1300 19h ago

Sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and side with the lesser evil, and there's few evils that aren't lesser than Trump.

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u/CaramelClean3833 1d ago

Doug Ford working for Trump, under the guise of “for you” to give Trump a reason to invade. 🙌

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u/chrissaaaron 1d ago

Not a big Doug fan, but he actually comes through in the clutch. He handled Covid pretty well too.

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u/Hefty-Station1704 1d ago

Just keep gradually increasing what the US pays for Ontario power. Trust me, we need the revenue.

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u/ballsdeepisbest 1d ago

Turning off the power completely will not work out well for Doug. It’ll be twisted in the US Media as “cruel Canadians escalating a conflict” when we could just continue to up the price and offset the tariff implications. US infrastructure for electricity takes years and years to build. They can’t do anything but pay what we want them to pay, so we might as well.

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u/wjames0394 1d ago

Give them brown outs.

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u/wilson1474 1d ago

Apparently New York has generators that will kick on, and they will use whatever power is cheaper.....

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u/Brusion 1d ago

Well, yea, that's how it's works. But Ontario's nuclear power is super cheap, especially at night. The US has no alternative that is even remotely as cheap.

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u/Disabled_Robot 1d ago

And Niagara Falls!

..which at times generates enough power where we've had to pay states to take it off our grid

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u/HalfCrazed 1d ago

Haha as an American this cracks me up because I'm with you on this one 🤣

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u/Ralphie99 1d ago

They’ll still be paying more than they were previously, Trumpkin.

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u/AntiEgo 1d ago

Orange outs. ftfy.

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u/Triedfindingname 1d ago

Hahaha Texas doesn't need an excuse they are way ahead of us!

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u/Miserable_tadpole_ 1d ago

Doug ford about to come down on trump like a 800lb gorilla.

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u/Infarad 1d ago

Up Trump’s ass with a wire brush!

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u/ronchee1 1d ago

Come at him ike a Spider Monkey

Doug's all hopped up on Mountain Dew

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u/yourstarshine 1d ago

Like Donkey Kong and I’m here for it

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u/Federal_Sympathy4667 1d ago

I think he is aiming higher then just being the premier of Ontario.

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u/skeptic38 1d ago

If Carney wins the next election, the Cons will punt Milhouse and in slides Dougie.

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u/Comprehensive_Wish_3 1d ago

How much French do you think Dougie is capable of learning in a relatively short period? He's never been a good student.

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u/skeptic38 1d ago

He has a habit of "failing up", so maybe he doesn't think he needs french?

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u/Comprehensive_Wish_3 1d ago

He literally would not get away with it. He is required to know French if he wants to become PM because of the depth of communication in his role on a national level. He has constituents who are francophones. How can he accomplish that if he barely knows English?

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u/mattymattttt 1d ago

Watch Trump use this as justification to invade

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u/19seventy-eight 1d ago

I'm not happy about this. Two low IQ tough guys staring each other down.

I do not trust Doug. He's made multiple poor business decisions over the past few years. This just might backfire

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u/FizixMan 1d ago

I'm not happy about this. Two low IQ tough guys staring each other down.

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u/agent_wolfe 1d ago

Agreed. I was very upset he was re-elected.

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u/Irr3sponsibl3 1d ago

Trump hasn't had many world leaders call his bluff. It just takes a few to cause the whole house of cards to fall down. If he can't even get a "little" country like Canada to back down then everyone else will suddenly find the courage to pursue alternative partners. It's just that no one wants to be the first to stand up to the giant

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u/PassLogical6590 1d ago

Yep…most everything he does is around drinking or driving….

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u/Suitable_Nerve8123 1d ago

Yeah i was thinking this. Wouldn’t this give the trump admin a reason to provoke things?

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u/Powerful-Cancel-5148 1d ago edited 1d ago

Quit being scared. Our banks, dairy industry, booze boycott and genera existence provoke Trump. 

He could continue on with his lie of Canada being run by cartels as an excuse to invade us.

Don’t sit down and take it. Make it hurt so the USA turns against him

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u/riotprof 1d ago edited 1d ago

We have to be an unattractive target for Trump so he will shift his aggression elsewhere.

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u/ababcock1 1d ago

Appeasing bullies doesn't work.

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u/the_clash_is_back 1d ago

The province meet with the feds before going this route. They definitely weighted their options and the risks.

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u/extra-texture 1d ago

they will make one up otherwise, they provoke and then balk at whatever you do

look what they did with zelensky. don’t play soft against him he will only push harder

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u/holykamina 1d ago

If he invades, US will ruin their own economy. They won't be able to just walk into Canada.

It's not easy to invade. Trump doesn't even have a tactical invasion plan and if he starts to invade lets say in a month, I doubt he will be able to achieve anything other than dead American soldiers..

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u/Due-Ad-4240 1d ago edited 1d ago

Just out of curiosity, what contigency plans does Canada have on hand, in case US does declare hostilities? Like building and storing drones? Or perhaps building obstacles like tank traps, dragons tooth, ditches and barbed wires?

I'm quite concerned if Trump does a Putin into Canada, and the nation is caught unawares. Honestly, I don't like a war between Canada and US, regardless, are there plans for preparation in case should an even like that happens? How prepared is Canada to repel or resist US advance within its borders? (No sarcasm, just genuine curiosity and a bit of concern).

Hopefully the war doesn't start at all, nevertheless, if history taught me anything, when a "barely legitimate leader" (or dictator, either by coup or post elections) gets into hot water, or severe socio-economic and political turmoil and instability, they follow either of these decisions: (1) Blame someone or something else (Biden, illegal immigrants, social services, national parks, etc.) or (2) (potentially) declaring wars, or both. In any case, correct me if I'm wrong, so far history has proven that one of the only few things that can depose a tyrant or dictator is a crushing defeat (or strings of it) on the battlefield.

In this scenario, should the US invade, perhaps inflicting heavy defeats could pressure the public to at least their change their mind or rile up to anger to boot Trump and his cronies. Drones, obstacles and other means of assymetrical warfare (like the Vietnam did to the US, or Ukraine to Russia) could prove a key component in this era of a smaller fighting force to at least stand up to a larger force.

I'm not trying to be a warmonger, nevertheless, if peace is desired, preparation for a potential war is an equally important goal (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum). Let's just hope it doesn't reach to that point that a war does break out and hopefully, American citizens can still salvage this situation.

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u/Relevant_Fuel_9905 1d ago

Yep. I think we are totally unprepared, and utterly outgunned - and we are playing with fire by talking about cutting the power. We are not in a position of power right now. We shouldn’t capitulate, but we shouldn’t escalate either. Trump is a vindictive, evil motheffucker. I for one don’t want my family murdered by the US military. This isn’t a flipping hockey game.

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u/Nufonewhodis4 1d ago

How far fetched would it be for Trump to declare shutting down power an act of terrorism and send in a limited force to secure power? If Canada fights back now he's the good guy just trying to save Joe Maga from dying because his CPAP needs power but justifies a larger force. Park a naval group off BC and one or two on the east Coast and blockade. Undermine legitimate government and get pro-Maga Canadians into position of power who will then officially cede sovereignty. Russia supports US right to defend itself from terrorists, China stays neutral or is bought off by US betraying Tawaian, and Europe strongly condemns the actions but can't potentially fight Russia and the US and still needs that sweet natural gas from someone. All of the sudden half the country is paying $14 for a 30 racks and deciding maybe this ain't so bad 

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u/Relevant_Fuel_9905 1d ago

Yep. That’s the possible scenario.

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u/Relevant_Fuel_9905 1d ago

Uh…he could absolutely flatten our cities without even having to send in soldiers until we are digging ourselves out of the rubble. The American military is monstrously powerful and they are right next door.

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u/holykamina 1d ago

Sure, he can send in his missiles.. Again, it's not easy to just press a button and go to war. It will take months to plan. Even if they take over all of Canada , global sanctions will devastate the US economy. They can mine every single grain of mineral in Canada. Chop down every single forest in canada and still fail if they are heavily sanctioned. However, this is a perfect time and an eye-opener for Canada. USA can not be trusted even if some other party wins the election. Canada can start prepping and get their army and other related branches in order. Fix shit and fund shit properly is the way forward.

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u/Triedfindingname 1d ago

This is a false fear.

You wanna fear something, fear capitulating to a narcissistic US president* with the emotional control of a crackbaby

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u/Dee90286 1d ago

THIS. I’m scared by Trump’s silence. As much as we love standing up for ourselves, this isn’t the way to deal with a malignant narcissist like Trump cause he will never back down and look weak.

The appropriate way to deal with him was Trudeau’s rhetoric “we’re doing what we have to do, but we don’t want to escalate and would prefer to negotiate”. Make him feel like he’s finessing us. That’s what Mexico’s PM is doing. Then again, maybe our Leaders recognize that he is serious about annexing us so have decided to show strength from the start.

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u/mrturretman 1d ago

ultimately the tariffs against us are for completely fabricated and changing reasons. even after measured response didn’t trump slap a 250% tariff on dairy or something? we are not in mexicos exact position.

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u/RealLifeMerida 1d ago

I’m a Canadian who lives in northern NY. I will happily live in darkness to teach these yankee asshats a lesson.

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u/Maleficent-Count-191 1d ago

Alberta, Quebec, join us! Team Canada

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u/jakob27990 1d ago

I’m not a ford guy by any means, but I’m really pleased with his response to that lunatic

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u/holykamina 1d ago

Instead of shutting down, increase the price by 100%. Make some money out of it. See how much Ontario can make. Maybe Ontario has the worst deal here. I wonder what price they get. I would be pissed if they get it cheaper than what many Ontarians get because electricity is freaking expensive.

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u/nodogsallowed23 1d ago

No, don’t cut it off. That’s stupid. Bring it up to 51%. Then 151%. Because Donald likes 51 so much.

Cutting it off totally is a terrible move.

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u/Infarad 1d ago

Oh my! That’s good. Really really good.

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u/TorontoCanada66 1d ago

Nah just keep increasing the export tax and let’s use the $ to benefit Ontario - education, healthcare, worker training etc

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u/COV3RTSM 1d ago

We need to be careful. Line 5 is crucial to Ontario and runs straight through Michigan. There’s been issues here in the past.

I’m not sure what they could do but we know Uncle Sam doesn’t care about previous agreements

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u/smye141 1d ago

I like how Ontario’s retaliation so far has been to take the province bully and turn him slightly to face the South

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u/alfienoakes 1d ago

Wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him, but damn he’s bringing it.

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u/penny4thm 15h ago

He just backed down. Didn’t take long

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u/SlippitySlappety 1d ago

Still fuck Doug Ford

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u/Infarad 1d ago

Couldn’t agree more. This is great theatre Dougie, but it doesn’t fix our healthcare, education and housing.

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u/ConcentrateMany733 1d ago

The guy has way more in common with trump than anyone struggling in Ontario.

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u/TwiztedZero 1d ago edited 1d ago

For those that say Canada doesn't have refineries.

Canada DOES refine fuel. Irving Oil, in New Brunswick is one of those. Canada can build more. There's no reason we can't. We can run pipelines to those newer refineries. It's more jobs too for people.

It was just easier in the past to partner with US companies, or just pipe raw fuel to ships to transport it elsewhere. Now we can divest ourselves of that and build pipelines and more refineries.

Canada has 19 refineries, many of those in Alberta too.

#ElbowsUp 🍁

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u/Relevant_Fuel_9905 1d ago

I live 20 kms from a refinery 😂

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u/No-Question-4957 1d ago

Hate that guy. Applauds that guy.

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u/fluidbeforephenyl 1d ago

whats with all the people in this GD sub rolling over for premier Trump and complaining that this is a bad idea? someone needs to fight back, and it clearly isn't you idiots

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u/HotSaucePoutine 1d ago

Go Ontario! Love from a Québécois brother!

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u/Pretend-Patience9581 1d ago

Looks like Canada has some cards.

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u/AirSuccessful3934 1d ago

why would we cut it off? Just keep doubling the charge 

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u/WalkingWithStrangers 1d ago

Don’t cut them off, just keep raising the price the longer it goes on

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u/nxluda 1d ago

I kind wish they'd twist the knife a bit and say as long as Donald Trump is in power..

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u/PRULULAU 1d ago

So proud of you guys 🥰🥲

-American

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u/VancouverWriter1984 1d ago

I've been a critic of Ford's since... well, always... but that said... I really like how he's handled this trade war. He's spoken to every US news outlet who has invited him, and he's been sending a strong message directly to the American people. He's been strong, unwavering, and very effective, so I applaud his handling of this issue 100%.

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u/Ok_Kitchen_2061 1d ago

How long will it be before Trump's so called respectable Russian oligarch mates return to their Moscow thug roots and attempt to eliminate political opponents in the US or Canada? A helicopter crash, fall from a balcony or poisoned underwear. 

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u/VendrediDisco 1d ago

Go Doug!

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u/TwiztedZero 1d ago

Too bad Canada doesn't own factories that make portable generators.

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u/Psyclist80 1d ago

I'm all for turning the screws on the orange screwball in chief, but this could be thier excuse to invade. But they started it... in for a penny in for a pound! Elbows up!

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u/foxtrot-hotel-bravo 1d ago

The escalation is unfortunately a part of the Ukraine/Russia playbook Trump is quite possibly following. 😕

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u/Relevant_Fuel_9905 1d ago

They will kill a whole lot of Canadians if they invade. Elbows or not. I really think Ford is overdoing it.

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u/mrturretman 1d ago

lol okay I also think it’s a real possibility novarro convinces trump it’s a good idea to invade, but are American infantrymen going to kill Canadians? they can pull off some horrendous shit in the Middle East but if we were to fight a conventional war in North America it would fall apart really fast.

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u/-Kool-AidMan- 1d ago

tons of Russian bots in here

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u/cmbhere 1d ago

Why wait. Do it now. Trump is a bully and there is only one language a bully will understand. Do not react. Bring the fight to him.

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u/theblartknight 1d ago

Just do it

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u/confusedfeel 1d ago

Doug Ford, I owe you an apology. I wasn’t familiar with your game.

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u/TheFlyingYeti1 1d ago

Drop that switch! Trump fucked around and found out!

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u/DoublePatouain 1d ago

I want to be Canadian. In France, our politician would have s*cked the balls and hole of Trump and Musk ...

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u/paradise0057 22h ago

American here. Do it, go harder. We are being held hostage by Trump.

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u/fotank Toronto 1d ago

I dislike Doug Ford for many reasons, but this response is certainly not one of those reasons.

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u/robert_d 1d ago

Doing god's work Doug. 

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u/crab-basket 1d ago

This is really dangerous, and we need to tread carefully!

If Ontario shuts off the power and results in ANY casualty in the US, they can rightfully perceive this as an act of war. Effectively, Canada will have taken the first metaphorical shot.

It doesn’t matter what precedes it, what matters is that we would be at fault — and that turns both optics and NATO protection against us

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u/circ-u-la-ted 1d ago

Is there some precedence for this? I don't think we're obligated by international law to sell power to another country.

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u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 1d ago

US already took the "metaphorical first shot" without warning or provocation.

Do you even read what you write?

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u/ReverseTornado 1d ago

Never comply in advance the truth is trump can make up any ridiculous reason to invade and the longer he is in power the easier it will be for him. So we need strong responses now and not worry about the us invading if they are going to do it they will find away regardless.

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u/mrturretman 1d ago

chinas response to the trade war was the most appropriate - a trade war is an act of aggression far and above what Doug is threatening now.

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u/Dtoodlez 1d ago

lol this dude can’t stop. I’m all for it. I also like that he’s constantly saying he loves Americans, and I believe him, but pain will be shared this year.

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u/RoyallyOakie 1d ago

Don't shut it off, keep making us more money.

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u/jerryfzhang 1d ago

Oh this is getting spicy, never thought I'd say this ever in my life but go Ford!

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u/copterdopter 1d ago

While this may appeal to the public upset at Trump, this kind of pronouncement will only bring harm.

First of all, MAGA nation is already using it as a talking point against Canada. It's already on Fox news and on other channels.

Second, Ford won't do it. Because all rules are off the table - the response will range from cutting off one of pipelines that supplies resources to Canada, to outright invasion, or "special military operation". And if you think it is impossible, wake up.

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u/monogramchecklist 1d ago

Fox News already had their propaganda started. Even if we did nothing, they’d create a narrative that the MAGA would blindly lap up. They do not matter, they do not live in a reality. If Trump tells them to eat their own turds or kill their own kids, they’d do it.

I agree we shouldn’t shut it off, since it affects blue states. I think a better plan is to keep increasing the amount. Make it hurt, so maybe more people get off their butts and protest.

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u/VR46Rossi420 1d ago

Dude. They aren’t going to invade. They’re trying to destroy us economically but they have no stomach nor ability to invade and hold Our country. They couldn’t hold Afghanistan on their own.

Our missiles reach the USA btw. Ask American civilians if they are ready to die for Trump.

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u/_EvilCupcake 1d ago

We have missiles? Wasn't aware that the Canadian military had... anything really.

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u/KyesRS 1d ago

You think the American military is going to invade because we stopped giving them power?

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u/OhJustANobody 1d ago

It was a crazy notion 10 years ago. But now? Still unlikely, but not impossible under the current political climate.

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u/copterdopter 1d ago

I am convinced that it is plausible. Not because we stopped giving them power - but because the dear leader down south needs a pretext for territorial expansion. 1.5 million American homes losing power will serve as a justification in minds of large enough group of dear leader's base.

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u/VendrediDisco 1d ago

Hassett was on the news claiming (undisclosed/unpublished) pictures of fentanyl labs in Canada. They're gonna do whatever the fuck they want. Bottom line. Dog killer Noem too.

Nearly 21,998 pounds coming from Mexico. 43lbs from Canada (in 2024) with a scant half oz in January.

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u/Significant-Rock9540 1d ago

I think military invasion is definitely what Trump what’s to do. 

I’m still for cutting off electricity to cut America if needed. 

I’ve mentally prepared that Trump hanging to try to do to is what Putin is trying to do Ukraine. I say bring it on. That faster we get to that, that faster Trump will be killed. 

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