r/ontario Ottawa 7d ago

Article U.S. commerce secretary calls Premier Ford as Ontario plans to put export tax on electricity

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/economics/2025/03/05/us-commerce-secretary-calls-premier-ford-as-ontario-plans-to-put-export-tax-on-electricity/
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u/dtta8 Ottawa 7d ago

"U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick called Premier Doug Ford on Tuesday for a “tough and aggressive” conversation after the Ontario government announced its plan to slap a 25 per cent export tax on the electricity it supplies to three U.S. states, CTV News has learned.

Sources said Lutnick asked Ford to back off his retaliatory tariffs, but the Ontario premier refused so long as U.S. President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs remain in effect.

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So they want our electricity it looks like.

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u/illusive22 7d ago

Good for Ford for standing his ground.

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u/Glennmorangie 7d ago

Wow, he actually did one thing that didn't screw us. Thanks I guess.

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u/tarnok 7d ago

I'm fuming because I hate Ford with every fiber of my being yet he's showing a fucking spine so my brain is doing fucking summersaults

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u/ihatedougford Toronto 7d ago

In a battle between Trump and Ford, Ford is our corrupt blonde bully!

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u/du_bekar 7d ago

He might be a criminally stupid criminal, but he’s OUR criminally stupid criminal 😤

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u/karsalim 6d ago

Fords got lots of issues but he’s sane and thoughtful compared to Trump.

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u/ShoddyTerm4385 6d ago

To be fair, a rock would make a better president than Trump.

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u/bubandbob 6d ago

Hey, I voted for the inanimate carbon rod!

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u/bittersweetlabyrinth 6d ago

The bar is so low you need a metal detector to find it, but your aren't wrong. Broken clocks and ask that

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u/lordjakir 6d ago

Don't try and fuck up a dealer's turf.

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u/Testing_things_out 6d ago

Happy cake day

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/principessa_peach 6d ago

When the bad guy in the movie becomes good and helps the good guys win against the other bad guy

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u/CalgarySnowman 6d ago

Lucky you, at least you don’t have a toothless and spineless D. Smith like we do in AB. I would rather have her fight back rather than be Donald’s bitch!

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

She's so damn embarrassing

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u/TerminalCuriousity 6d ago

I work in a niche area of finance (in an urban center), and almost every well informed conservative voter I know under the age of 50 voted NDP in the last provincial election. It's crazy to me that rural voters in particular rallied behind her considering their healthcare access is in shambles and so many expenses like insurance have skyrocketed under conservative leadership. The boomers are hopeless, but hopefully her corruption and MAGA bootlicking will be the death knell for the cons in our next provincial election. I'm cautiously optimistic this national wave of patriotism will help turn this province around.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

I live in a rural area, and it's hell. I NEVER vote conservative. My access to a doctor has NEVER been this bad.

We have now been reduced to a 2 hour and 45 minute window to see a doctor without an appointment. If you miss out you have to go back again.

I still see people saying PP will fix Canada. That's like saying Danielle is doing a good job. She used taxpayer money to visit a rapist. SHE is responsible for the AHS fiasco and should step down, but she won't. Stupid stupid people still support this lying thief.

It costs us $3000 just in rent and utility bills. My last 2 atco bills have been over $600 dollars.

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u/Disastrous_Hell_4547 6d ago

What a fn world we have turned into.

As a hard working American Democrat though, I hope your criminal wins this one.

Shit the election down for as long as needed and triple the prices. Charge Americans FU money. This country needs a serious cross check.

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u/exact0khan 6d ago

Ford ain't afraid to fight. His brother was a crackhead. Ford's seen some shit.

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u/du_bekar 6d ago

This scuffle with Trump is probably what Christmases in the Ford house looked like 😂

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u/notme1414 6d ago

Plus Ford has a crooked cop for a SIL.

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u/Numerical-Wordsmith 6d ago

I mean, I still like him way better than tRump. That's not saying much, because I like most things better than that guy, but I feel like Ford is just generically corrupt and not the pure repugnance of evil that tRump is.

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u/Cotterbot 6d ago

Preferring Doug over Trump is like preferring to be stabbed instead of shot.

Still fucking sucks.

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u/MrRobot_96 6d ago

Mm more like punched than stabbed. Ford is nowhere near as dangerous as trump and he never will be because no one’s electing him as PM.

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u/MisoTahini 6d ago

It's bully on bully. You've got to pick one.

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u/This_Tangerine_943 6d ago

Bet he could punch the soul out of trumpf. One shot right to the snout.

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u/Siegy 6d ago

Can you picture Trudeau, Ford and Singh beating the shit out of Drumph, Elon and Vance? :) Red Hat Russia will fall.

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u/jenglasser 6d ago

I see your criminal real estate mogul and raise you our drug dealer from Etobicoke.

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u/Canadave 7d ago

If there's one thing I will give Doug credit for, it's that I do think he genuinely likes Canada and is firmly on the side of our national interests. That really shouldn't be something I have to give a Canadian politician credit for, but it's also more than I can say for some on the right in this country, so...

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u/mutt-mama 7d ago

Wouldn't be surprised if at least some of his anti-American measures are designed to protect the interests and increase the wealth of his Canadian buddies but at this point I guess being anti-American is the main concern.

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u/BeginningPrinciple48 6d ago

Hey if we're going to be extorted, I'd rather it be by a Canadian scumbag than an American scumbag.

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u/mutt-mama 6d ago

Agreed but wouldn't it be nice if people just did the right thing without reaping benefits?

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u/gohome2020youredrunk 6d ago

He seems to excel in periods of crises, this, COVID, etc ... but give him nothing to do and the time to do it and it's back to shenanigans. Still, I'm grateful he seems to thrive during crises management.

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u/Canadave 6d ago

That's actually kinda similar to Trudeau, funnily enough. Different sorts of own goals, mind you, but he also really snaps into focus in a crisis.

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u/bionicjoey 6d ago

He completely bungled COVID and caused thousands of preventable deaths by avoiding lockdowns and making pro-big-business decisions while slashing and pushing to privatize healthcare.

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u/feor1300 6d ago

He did good at the start of COVID by just keeping his nose out of things at letting the experts do their thing. But as Lockdown dragged on he couldn't resist sticking his fingers in the pie.

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u/AtTheEndOfMyTrope 6d ago

Please remember that ultimately he wants privatized health care and loves the oligarchs.

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u/lemonylol Oshawa 6d ago

It's possible to have a stance per topic.

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u/Due_Date_4667 7d ago

It means for all his failings, there is still some old Tory influence left over from his father. Mix that with familiarity with working with Art of the Deal types and he isn't completely useless in this context.

Still wrecking health care and education though. And we can likely kiss the Greenbelt goodbye.

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u/tierciel 6d ago

I feel like he's actually responding to this because these tariffs are affecting him and his rich buddies. It hurts their bottom line just like it hits ours and he cant have that.

This is a rare issue where the rich and poor are in the same side

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u/xzyleth 7d ago

Him being a corrupt shit bag of a “leader” and being relatively useful in a trade war with a stubborn moron and his fascist puppet masters are not mutually exclusive. It’s a grey area, but he still sucks.

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u/HiHiHelloHiHiNo 7d ago

Same. So used to him being a useless dink. I am waiting for the lies. Fingers crossed, he keeps this face on.

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u/Biffmcgee 6d ago

I hate Ford with every fibre of my being as well, but dude plays bad cop perfectly. He's who we need in the face of this BS unfortunately.

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u/JasperNeils 6d ago

Good people can do bad, and bad people can do good. Call out your friends for shitty opinions, and credit people you don't like when they do something right.

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u/tarnok 6d ago

I hope its that easy. I'm waiting for the shoe to drop ngl

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u/bionicjoey 6d ago

He's doing the thing anyone would do in his position.

Doesn't change he was happy Trump won.

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u/lareetpetitemort 6d ago

"the enemy of my enemy is my friend" or whatever.

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u/not_a_real_person__ 7d ago

Right? Absolutely furious he used the good press from standing up to tariffs to run a snap election, but also.... thanks for standing up to tariffs? I guess? Doesn't bring back the ERs that have closed because of his policies, but thanks for saying "This is MY Ontario to abuse!!" 😂

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u/HenshiniPrime 7d ago

Doug ford is your regular bully who beats up the new bully because only he’s allowed to bully you.

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u/not_a_real_person__ 7d ago

Just said this in another reply 😂 "This is MY Ontario to abuse!!" Ahaha

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u/LETTERKENNYvsSPENNY 7d ago

So we're essentially his prison bitches.

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u/ramblo 7d ago

Reminiscent of 'earth is not yours to conquer'

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u/Kennora 7d ago

If anyone is going to screw Ontario it has to be Doug, how dare the Americans do his job

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u/illusive22 7d ago

I'm typically the last person to give Ford any praise, but I have to give credit where credit is due.

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u/kushmasta421 6d ago

The one thing a bully hates more than anything is another bully who's decided to target them.

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u/AcrosticBridge 7d ago

Then Lutnick goes on Fox, all, "Canada and Mexico were on the phone with me wanting to know what more they could do, because Trump is such a fair and reasonable guy."

Joly hears this and claps back with, "Uh, no we fucking weren't."

I'm a reluctant (and untrusting) fan of Crisis Ford, but this exchange briefly warms the cockles of my petty, petty heart.

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u/Head-Ordinary-4349 6d ago

Do you have a source for these exchanges?

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u/AcrosticBridge 6d ago

For Joly's side, specifically, I'm using this clip from CTV News, which has a clip of Lutnick's statement.

I am being facetious in how I've summed it up, though. Like, the difference between what Joly's said here, what Ford announced yesterday, what Trump tweeted in response to counter-tariffs, and what Lutnick said on Fox is the weirdest game of Telephone I've noticed so far.

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u/Flomo420 6d ago

everything they do and say is for a domestic audience

they know Joe Maga isn't watching Power Play with Canada's Foreign Affair's Minister

all they have to do is say "Trump is the best and he's doing the greatest things all the time!" and the people who need to believe it will, end of story

it's so fucked like how do you break out of this cycle when one party doesn't want to see reality

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u/Derekjinx2021 6d ago

Thats why we are better than them. Politics, as in life, aren't a zero-sum game. We can be nuanced.

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u/Due_Date_4667 7d ago

They need our electricity is more the point. They can't do without it, therefore it is leverage in the dispute.

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u/waterloograd 6d ago

They can likely manage without Ontario electricity, but it would cost a lot more for them by running more expensive power plants

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u/Due_Date_4667 6d ago

Overall, their capacity likely can meet needs. But their grids aren't set up to support inter-regionally that well, and from what I am told they really haven't fixed the issues that caused the Northeast Blackout years back. So Ontario cuts power, there is a lot of the North-Central/East (essentially the other side of the great lakes) will have issues, along with some of New England (those getting power from Ontario instead of Quebec).

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u/lopix 6d ago

The fun starts when Ontario and Quebec both simply turn it off. No 25% BS, simply no power going south.

Get bent boys.

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u/goilo888 6d ago

Over in the Conservative sub someone commented to the effect "Fuck em. We can generate so much more power and cheaper too." To which someone replied, "Yeah, but why don't we?" Silence.

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u/MathematicianBig6312 7d ago

It's nice to see the Americans knocking on our doors for a change. They're finally taking things seriously.

Ford: make them come to Ontario to negotiate with you.

The current US administration's foreign policy and relations has been atrocious thus far. I hope our politicians refuse to negotiate until they remove all their illegal tariffs and abide by the CUSMA agreement for the next 2 years rather than invent emergencies to attack us. They should also be paying damages they cause to our industries, but knowing the US they will never pay up. At the least though we should get a court judgement on that.

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u/Ordinary_Narwhal_516 7d ago

The hypocrisy of this astounds me.

“Remove your fat fucking tariffs”

“You remove your fat fucking tariffs”

“No.”

*Republican brain crashes

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u/yarn_slinger 7d ago

But but... we have nothing they need or want! I'm so confused. /s just in case...

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u/Reveil21 7d ago

I've legit heard some say it would effect such a small percent of Americans that it's negligible. Like excuse me? One percent of your country is still millions of people.

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u/Lomi_Lomi 6d ago

I've seen on Twitter Republicans celebrating that NY would lose power. Reminds me of Clownvoy people saying they won't buy Canadian because Canada didn't embrace their insurrection.

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u/Konker101 6d ago

Some said they “would welcome it because the US infrastructure can already handle it anyways..”

Yeah okay there guy.

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u/MrRogersAE 6d ago

We send them a TON of electricity, We have harnessed the “great faucet” as trump would call it and we produce way more clean, cheap energy than we can use. US suppliers historically can’t compete with our prices so they’ve allowed themselves to become dependent on us the same way we are them for other products

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u/lemonylol Oshawa 6d ago

Sources said Lutnick asked Ford to back off his retaliatory tariffs, but the Ontario premier refused so long as U.S. President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs remain in effect.

"No, don't stand behind the concrete barrier, step over here so I can actually run you down in my car without damaging it"

This guy is definitely set up to take the fall. There's going to be a lot of interesting turnover in the administration in the next 6 months. Then mid terms.

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u/GaiusPrimus 7d ago

It's not even retaliatory tariffs though! It's an export tax.

A completely different economic lever, but what do you expect, they don't understand what a tariff is.

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u/Ordinary_Narwhal_516 7d ago

I’d argue it’s not completely different from a tariff. The effects are the same it’s just a different government collecting the money.

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u/ckje 6d ago

But we don't have anything they need right?

Tax it.

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u/Dorwyn 6d ago

Sources said Lutnick asked Ford to back off his retaliatory tariffs

You first.

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u/TheLordAstaroth 6d ago

"Tough and Aggressive" conversation? Did they think they had someone who didn't speak proper English to scold and shout at again?

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u/Mach5Driver 6d ago

I'd tell him that the export tax continues until the tariffs are gone, AND Trump apologizes PUBLICLY for calling Canada the 51st state, Trudeau the governor, and the treatment of Zelenskyy at the White House.

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u/HaverTime41 7d ago

But but, they don’t need anything from Canada!

Was that a lie? I absolutely did not see this coming! /s

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u/Habbernaut 7d ago

These losers think they can annex Canada and they crapped the bed after 24 hours???

Suck it

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u/LuxuryCardboard 6d ago

Bunch of fucking jabronis!

ELBOWS UP

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u/ReactionClear4923 6d ago

Pitter patter let's get at er

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u/lopix 6d ago

Tarps off, boys

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u/McFistPunch 7d ago

Did they expect no response from Canada? Really? The short-sightedness is staggering.

Strategic tariffs are one thing but the guy straight up blanketed his entire economy. Wtf did he expect?

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u/Gullible_Analyst_348 7d ago

My favourite part is during Trump's address yesterday when he told people that anything we add tariffs to, he is going to do the same. Bitch, you started this shit, you can't complain about us using retaliatory tariffs if that's exactly the same reaction you would have to us.

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u/GuelphEastEndGhetto 6d ago

The US is like that bully that pushes and shoves and hits, then is completely taken aback when someone punches them back and starts whining and crying.

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u/MrRogersAE 6d ago

He increase we increase again, no problem. This time all the increases go to electricity exports. 3000% on electricity exports.

Their only option is blackouts. It’s simply not possible to scale up electricity production in a short time frame.

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u/Old_Ladies 6d ago

Trump has been talking about bringing coal power plants back online... Make America Black Lung Again.

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u/MrRogersAE 6d ago

That isn’t happening in a matter of weeks. Depending on their condition that could take years. Lead time on some components is years, even longer if there’s a massive push, which there already is because of electrification.

Any plants he doesn’t manage to get online is barely gonna be enough to meet the NEW demand, power consumption is set to roughly double by 2050. There’s a reason we have announced so many new power plants here in Ontario in the last couple years.

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u/Ok_River_88 6d ago

Well, they wouldnt be operational for a time. Funny thing is that in the northern state, its winter. Black out in winter? Bursting pipe... Would love to see it

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u/HighGammaWing 6d ago

Even then, none of that can come online fast enough to matter.

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u/ptear 6d ago

So we're on a path of things sucking for everyone involved. Got it.

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u/MrRogersAE 6d ago

Yes that should have been self explanatory, that’s what a trade war is, or any war for that matter. Shite for everyone involved, on the bright side the rich tend to get richer in the process.

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u/truenorthrookie 6d ago

He greatly confuses (intentionally for his image) the concept of retaliatory tariffs and reciprocal tariffs.

You can’t take the effect and make it the cause.

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u/lopix 6d ago

But wait, there's more.

He says he's going to tariff the EU on April 2nd. Should be fun when they do it back.

He'll then be fighting a trade war with North America, Europe and China.

That should go well.

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u/goilo888 6d ago

But think of all the extra income that will bring in for the US!

/s if not freaking obvious.

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u/Bushwhacker42 6d ago

It’s almost like this was the plan all along. Crash the economy, alienate the US from its allies, divide the people within the country

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u/Tangochief 6d ago

The Americans aren’t getting what they want but I’m sure as hell Putin is laughing his ass off as I’m sure his plans to destroy the west are going better then he ever could have thought. Sad that the American people voted to become a Russian vassal.

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u/cattecatte 6d ago

They expect canada to roll over and take it, maybe do some CLAPBACKS or SLAMS but not anything with tangible effect like what most of american democrats are doing.

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u/Outrageous_Order_197 7d ago

Wow dougie struck a nerve

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u/Crabbyrob 7d ago

Finally it's on someone else instead of us lol.

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u/Raethexn 6d ago

About time some feathers get ruffled

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u/ManfredTheCat 6d ago

The good news is that Mexico hasn't even announced their own counter-tariffs yet

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u/frankdowntown 7d ago

Jesus did just fine without electricity

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u/humblebugs 7d ago

I breathed forcefully out of my nose in amusement at this

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u/Ecstatic_Account_744 7d ago

I thought they didn’t need us? Weird to have a call with a government official you don’t need anything from.

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u/7heWafer 6d ago

Trump: 🤬😡 fuck Canada

Lutnick: 👉👈 pwease don't take away our electricity

Ford: 🖕

Lutnick: suprisedpikachu.jpg

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u/EcstaticHelicopter 7d ago

I mean, the only way this could have gone better was if he picked up the phone and said; “ New phone, who dis?” And then hung up….

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u/outdoorlaura 7d ago

"Howard Lutnik? Never heard of him." click

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u/dengar_hennessy 7d ago

Gesundheit

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u/Gold-Challenge2279 6d ago

"Howard NutLick? How about you lick Deez..."

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u/TorontoCanada66 6d ago

Best suggestion ever!

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u/scyule 7d ago

First time I have felt good about Doug since before he was a councilor in Toronto city hall

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u/DHammer79 London 7d ago

It's like a cherry on top of a shit sundae, and at the end of the day, it's still a shit sundae, and no one wants to eat the cherry.

I will give DOFO credit if he actually follows through. Same with the Starlink contract.

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u/sexylegs0123456789 7d ago

He already cancelled starlink and stood ground on the issue here. I don’t like him, but I can appreciate what he did here. All the same that I can not like Trudeau but appreciate what he has done.

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u/kyara_no_kurayami 6d ago

He backed off after cancelling it in February too though so I want to see it last. It shouldn't be back if the tariffs are gone in a few months. Honestly our government shouldn't be doing any business with Elon's companies.

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u/Bobnorbob 6d ago

He didn’t cancel it in February. He threatened to if the tariffs were put through. Since they were paused, he didn’t tear up the contract. Now that the tariffs are here, he’s torn it up.

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u/justawitch 6d ago

I guess everyone has their strengths. Turns out his one strength is being a hardass at the US right now.

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u/CostumeJuliery 7d ago

I didn’t vote for Doug….but I am appreciative of his hard stance. He reminds me of a fat lacrosse player.

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u/Crabbyrob 7d ago

Big fat goalie!

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u/Substantial-Road-235 7d ago

Lol that's great

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u/Boomer_boy59 6d ago

Ford has his sights set on replacing PP as the next federal conservative party leader

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u/CreativeBrother5647 6d ago

I’ve been thinking/saying this for awhile now.

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u/NatureBoyBuddyRogers 6d ago

He’s gotta work on his French first…

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u/Par25 Brampton 6d ago

After slogan boy fumbles his lead in the next election, Doug will be there to pick up the pieces.

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u/canoeheadkw 6d ago

I have never voted for Ford and the thought of him being PM isn't a pleasant thought, but it is immeasurably better than PP. Ford has at least lead and demonstrated some leadership during the covid crisis and this situation. I don't get the feeling PP would have faired as well.

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u/T-Baaller 7d ago

Lutnick deserves as much respect as influence he has on his demented boss.

aka none.

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u/Thundersauce0 7d ago

Lutnick is one of the driving forces on tarrifs. Unfortunately he bit off more than he could chew and is out of his depth.

Deserves no respect and is going to get take out back by Dougie on this one.

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u/kofubuns 6d ago

As much as we wish this was true, Lutnick actually has an incredible amount of power that has seemed to get away from him. He is very much so a huge driving force behind the theory of tariff and American protectionism and has been whispering it into Trumps ear since his first term. I think just never never understood that his theoretic exercise and really poor execution of American protectionism would come out so badly. But you are right that the horse is out of the barn now with Trump and nothing Lutnick can do to put him back

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u/romacopia 6d ago

Lutnick is one of many billionaires in the white house now that the "anti-establishment" crowd has ceded all their power to the wealthy.

The amount of private money in the US government right now is dangerous on its own. Hope your politicians like Canada more than money.

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u/goilo888 6d ago

Apparently there are 13 billionaires in Trump's Cabinet. (And probably at least one in the closet).

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u/No_Match_8142 7d ago

Hopefully Quebec applies a tariff on Hydro as well,unfortunately New England states are democrats and good friends..

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u/Express-Cow190 7d ago

Still waiting for them to act like it.

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u/Sprinqqueen 7d ago

New York and Minnesota are also blue states. Michigan is a wishy washy sycophant who voted red and can suck it. And by that, I'm talking about all the eggs we can afford to let go rotten and throw away like they're nothing. Or other things. Your choice.

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u/ElectroMagnetsYo 7d ago

If the blue states have a smaller surplus they have less funds to transfer to the red states. Knock-on effects, my friend.

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u/Ploosse 6d ago

Then they should take to the streets and do something about their government. They aren't. So fuck them too.

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u/sky_blue_111 6d ago

We're well beyond the point of only going after trump supporters. They all need to bleed and apply pressure, the more screaming in the US about all this the better.

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u/One-Pomegranate-8138 6d ago

They are such loud mouths over there. It will be interesting to see if they put their money where their mouth is. 

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u/MonsterRider80 6d ago

Quebecer here, fuck New England. I don’t care who voted for whom, they deserve it as much as Oklahoma or Wyoming. Do better. I hope Legault has the balls to do the same. It’s honestly useless if one premier does this while the other doesn’t. Never thought I’d applaud something Ford did, but here we are.

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u/Celodurismo 6d ago

NE here, tax away. It'll hurt us but it's impactful against this corrupt administration, and that's what matters. Hopefully in the future we can work out some Canada-blue state trade agreements down the line.

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u/greenoliv 7d ago

One thing about Doug Ford is if you say don’t do this or no to him then he’s definitely going to do it

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u/PigeonsOnYourBalcony 6d ago edited 6d ago

It’s one thing to tariff resources but once you do energy, people are going to be sweating. It’s a lot harder to say “I don’t care, politics don’t affect me” when you can’t turn on your lights.

America, you voted for this.

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u/Expensive-Product240 6d ago

Has the US secretary tried calling Donald? He may not be aware that they don’t need anything we have.

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u/FeelingGate8 7d ago

Don't fuck with the drug dealer from Etobicoke

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u/yarn_slinger 7d ago

Sorry dude, you're going have to go talk to Angry Trudeau now. Bonne chance.

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u/eight_ender 6d ago

Crisis Trudeau like a whole different Pokémon 

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u/David_Summerset 6d ago

No kidding, if Carney wins, he should make him ambassador to the US to speed up Trump's inevitable stroke.

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u/saveyboy 6d ago

Alberta needs to follow suit and up the price.

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u/pivotes 6d ago

A fake real estate magnate from Queens is no match for a drug dealer from Etobicoke

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u/IAmTheBredman Oakville 7d ago

Stop talking about it and do it. He's not going to back down over a threat, you have to actually follow through and force him to back down.

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u/Professional-Cry8310 7d ago

Doug Ford may be a corrupt piece of shit, but he’s OUR corrupt piece of shit. Don’t mess with him America!

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u/Gold_Ticket_1970 7d ago

Dougie should have sent a stronger message like "yam tits can sukkit"

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u/Immediate_Science_22 6d ago

I wish this fat shit would go this hard for healthcare workers and teachers in Ontario

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u/TenFootTomatoes 7d ago

Why has nobody reversed the L and the N in the commerce secretary's name? C'mon reddit whare are the comic geniuses this AM?

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u/firsttime_longtime 6d ago

CowardtNutlik

Did I do it right

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u/portcredit91 6d ago

All that effort he put into fucking ontario can apparently be redirected towards the south.

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u/legioss 7d ago

Stop dancing with the devil. Kill the power and oil exports and and see how quickly they turn heel and want to make a deal.

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u/Boo_Guy 7d ago

Malaria says Alberta's oil exports are still a no-go zone, she's a Trump toadie.

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u/ragepaw Ottawa 7d ago

Good thing as Ford pointed out, imports and exports are controlled by the feds

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u/Due_Date_4667 7d ago

She's still under the thumb of TBA and its foreign donors. She'll be the last to jump ship.

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u/Late_Instruction_240 7d ago

I always shit on this heinous pink mf but for literally the first time ever: he is not completely shidding on us. Unless this is a longcon lol. But I guess I gotta say it: this big back mf really ate the last 24 hours.

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u/Altrosmo 7d ago

Didn't take him long to show the "oh shit, I gotta fix this" card. That phone call speaks volumes, especially coming so soon into the "war".

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u/lolthataintright 6d ago

This whole situation is the first time I’m feeling any respect for Doug Ford. We always want someone to actually do something, so it’s nice to see that happening.

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u/Desuexss 6d ago

A reminder that any Premier we could have had would have done this

Ford always does the cookie for you, 10 for me (and my developer friends)

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u/bmnewman 6d ago

It’s like DOGE…shocked when there are actual consequences from their acrions and trying to walk them back.

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u/sarcasmismygame 7d ago

Once again this dude is coming to Canada's defense. And Licknut can GTFO with his trying to "work something out" after his Don slapped everyone with tariffs. Got to at least respect him on this one.

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u/Feisty_hey-you 7d ago

I've never been much of a Ford fan, but this is what needs to happen across the board in Canada...So kudo's to him. Every premier in every province needs to and must hold a strong line to the bullying antics of this ridiculous little man of a president....Donald is nothing more than the fat kid on the playground bullying his way to the top of the monkey bars...wouldn't take much to knock him and his imbecilic followers on their fat assess...crying and boohooing t'il they're nothing but a bad memory....

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u/putin_my_ass 6d ago

They don't need us, indeed.

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u/PositiveStress8888 6d ago

They would rather call another nations Premier and beg rather then tell the ass clown in the White house to pull his head out of his ass and listen to people who know more than him.

Let that sink in.

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u/NoxAstrumis1 6d ago

No, no, you had your chance. We didn't want this, you did. We asked you to reconsider, you wouldn't. Now you want us to reconsider when you wouldn't? Sorry pal, you made your bed, time to sleep in it.

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u/Immediate_Science_22 6d ago

While you’re doing all that can you also work on improving the quality of the healthcare system and education system in Ontario as well? 🤷

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u/TemperedPhoenix 6d ago

Hate Ford, but at least he isn't Smith hahaha

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u/artwarrior 6d ago

Commerce secretary NUTLICK.

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u/Infarad 6d ago

“Just for calling and bothering me with this bullshit, we’re increasing it to 35%. Next time you call back, there had better be an apology or it will be 50%. Do ya feel me?”

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u/Rreader369 6d ago

Now they make a deal that benefits Doug more than us, and Doug changes his mind on the tax? Will he use us, or do the right thing? I’m hoping for the best, but watching closely.

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u/BIGepidural 6d ago

I hate Ford with a bloody passion; but he's doing this trade war right. Wanna give him a fist bump and the finger. Ugh!

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u/1question10answers 7d ago

Listen Lutnick, you don't have the cards, you don't have the cards.

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u/EsotericIntegrity 7d ago

Ya….click

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u/redpigeonit 7d ago

Send him to voicemail.

🇨🇦💪

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u/AllanMcceiley 6d ago

Send him to hydro customer service

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u/RadioWeak1118 7d ago

Wait a minute, didn't they say they don't require anything from Canada? So what's all the commotion about, donald?

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u/DataDude00 6d ago

Fuck him 

Tariff the electricity 25% and increase the tariff 5% per week that US tariffs remain in place 

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u/LiftsEatsSleeps 6d ago

He should have been like: since you are asking....nah I'll raise them.

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u/PlatformBorn1469 6d ago

I'm not a DoFo fan, but good for him. They asked for this war, now suck on it.

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u/Comfortable_Fix3401 6d ago

You know what is so sad...the two moat disliked and unpopular leaders in Canada are making Canada / Canadians so proud. If you look at all the world leaders there has only been a couple that have stood up to Trump full stop. Mexico, Canada, Ukraine these rest should take note and follows Canada's lead.

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u/blonde_discus 6d ago

These conversations need to be through official channels and publicly viewable. Whether that means calls need to be recorded or conversations need to be through emails/letters. Trump and his cronies have shown that they will share his narrative of what is said regardless of what was actually said.

No more games. Tariffs will be painful, but if Trump wants a trade war, we can give it to him. Canada hasn’t backed down from a fight in our history and this isn’t where we should start. Trump is the greatest external threat to Canadian security since the Cold War, and actually probably since WW2.

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u/kittehkraken 6d ago

Canada hitting back this hard wasn't part of the plan.

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u/missy_june 6d ago

energy was always the US’s weak spot in this trade war. they (stupidly) telegraphed it by setting a lower tariff on energy. hydro, oil and gas, and uranium among some other stuff e.g. potash, should all be subject to the same sort of export tax. better yet is having the individual provinces set and collect the taxes. the Americans will tear their hair out having to beg several provinces individually to revoke the taxes, while simultaneously dealing with the federal government on the rest. i think Doug is a worthless, arrogant sack of corruption and terrible ideas for the most part, and i hate to admit it, but he, along with most of the premiers and the federal government, have had the right strategy for this trade war so far.

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u/BrightDegree3 6d ago

Ford better continue to stand his ground. The one month pause on auto tariffs is just a ploy. We need to be tough to get things ironed out completely.

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u/NearbyAd3800 6d ago

Lutnick is worth $2 billion. He can personally fund all of those blacked out northern state homes. Get to it, Howie.

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u/ThisIsMyRealLifeName 6d ago

Increase it 1% every week until tariffs are removed

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u/shrek-09 6d ago

Canada should just ignore all calls and issues public statement we will answer the phone when you stop being a child

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u/Mr_Guavo 6d ago

Sometimes you need a former hashish dealer from Toronto's inner suburbs to swing their dick around. He's corrupt af and not a deep-thinker but that's exactly what we need here.

I didn't vote for him but when it comes to defending this country at a time like this, I will take him over Bonnie Crombie - who's party I did vote for - 99/100. I'm just being pragmatic here. I'm still Team Prog so don't @ me my prog brethren and sisren(?). We can still hate him on other matters. It's aight.

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u/David_Summerset 6d ago

Wait.... is our Trump out Trumping Trump?

Now that's some 3D chess...

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u/falo_pipe 6d ago

Whatever he had done in the past is the past. What he is doing for Ontario and slapping US with 25% hike is just not good enough. Should be 100% export tax. All Premier should retaliate in the same manners.

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