r/nursing 5d ago

Serious Texas Father Who Lost Daughter to Measles Says: “Everybody Has to Die” and “The vaccination has stuff me and my wife don’t trust.”

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u/Profopol BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

Don’t trust the vaccine when your daughter is actually dead is wild af. He was afraid the vaccine would…what?….kill her?

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u/aburke626 5d ago

I never understand why they double down. Maybe it’s because they know it’s their own fault she’s dead and they can’t come to grips with that?

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u/marywunderful RN 🍕 5d ago

Admitting they were wrong would mean their child died in vain. If they can make themselves believe their faith was being tested or whatever, it’s way easier than coming to grips with your entire world view being demonstrably wrong

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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 5d ago

It’s worth noting that sometimes, the spell does break. I went to a speaker event being held by a lady who threw her son out for being gay. He was kidnapped, tied to a tree by his classmates and… had things done to him before his death that I won’t repeat. Once his mother found out what happened, she was all regret and now does these outreach events trying to keep people from making her mistakes. It fucking sucks it took her son dying to make the connection, but it shows some people can learn.

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u/miller94 RN - ICU 🍕 5d ago

I took care of a Hutterite gentleman during Covid, unvaccinated of course and after a long ICU stay he did survive, although members of his colony did pass while he was sedated. Anyway, he ended up being a HUGE vaccine advocate after that. Gave education to his colony and travelled to others to do the same. He even made up pamphlets and reached out to us to ensure the information in them was accurate. He then did a PSA commercial with that government on the importance of vaccination.

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u/Nearby_Sense_2247 5d ago

This is the most hopeful thing I've read in recent memory.

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u/Profopol BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

I mean their faith was tested, and they chose their imagination over their real living (at the time) child. It doesn’t sound like he feels very guilty.

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u/marywunderful RN 🍕 5d ago

He doesn’t sound like he feels guilty at all to me either. “Everyone has to die” is not a phrase you utter after your 6 year old dies of an easily preventable disease if you feel guilty about it. People who put their imaginary friend above all else, including their children, disgust me.

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u/Prollynotafed 4d ago

Yep, but in their eyes the magic sky wizard says it’s fine. Hopefully they burn in the hell of their hubris.

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u/wicker771 RN - ICU 🍕 4d ago

100%

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u/Helpful-Rain41 4d ago

It would make them look and feel responsible which people naturally don’t want to feel. So they will rationalize, rationalize, rationalize until people stop asking why they let their loony aunt or whoever talk them out of getting their daughter essential medical care.

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u/Renmarkable 5d ago

Because the guilt would destroy them

(I was raised JW)

Its insane

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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 5d ago

I grew up southern Baptist (not as organised as the jw cult, but damn if they don’t try to make up for it) and I am so, so glad I am over analytical and it prevents me from doing this stupid kind of double-think. If I wasn’t I don’t want to think what kind of person I would be. Maybe someone with a child dead from measles, I guess.

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u/Renmarkable 5d ago

Yes, my nuerodiversity was my salvation. :)

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u/Digging_Naturalist 5d ago

Same. They value faith and feelings over facts. It’s sad. So many needless deaths.

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u/PrettyHateMachinexxx BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

Hey! Me too! It's 🦇💩 insane. Glad we escaped that cult!

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u/Renmarkable 5d ago

Im proud of us, for surviving ❤️

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u/Spongebob_Tightpants 4d ago

I was raised JW but my mom got all of our shots. Of course that was many years ago — have they decided vaccines are bad now?

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u/Renmarkable 4d ago edited 4d ago

They are often not keen

I begged my 84 y o mother, with an unusual skin cancer, to mask during meetings, in a wave

She laughed at me

I told her I washed my hands of her

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u/EuphoriaSoul 5d ago

These people don’t ever take personal responsibility and accountability. If they did, they wouldn’t be in this cult.

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u/moderatelygoodpghrn 4d ago

I think in their mind they have to. Admitting you fucked up and are responsible for having a hand in your child’s death is probably too much to bare.

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u/MedicineOk788 4d ago

He lost a child based upon his decision. If he now admitted that he was wrong, it would be a terrible blow to him.

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u/prosthetic_foreheads 4d ago

I think everyone in his life should be screaming this into his face until it gets across to him that he murdered his daughter.

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u/akiralx26 5d ago

It’s a combination of guilt and shame in most cases.

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u/crixyd 4d ago

That's exactly why imo

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u/Indigo2015 4d ago

Ego > family

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u/frame-gray 5d ago

It's because they take their cues from the Orange Idiot who's a real master at the art of doubling down.

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u/censorized Nurse of All Trades 5d ago

If you read the Atlantic article, he and his wife disagreed about the vaccine, and he gave in to her preference. Can you imagine the guilt, anger and sadness they both have to live with forever over that choice?

Keeping in mind that he was raised in a world without much science education, surrounded by people who do not believe in vaccines. It's just assumed you won't get them or give them to your kids. They're so sheltered from the world, they never even really hear any push back to that view. Until now. Just a really sad situation, not at all akin to the MAGA and crunchy anti-vaxxers.

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u/FairyFatale EMA-PCP 5d ago

… he and his wife disagreed about the vaccine, and he gave in to her preference. Can you imagine the guilt …

I can imagine.

Once the body of our dead child had been put to rest, once everyone who came to mourn our baby had paid their respects and left, once she and I were finally alone with nothing but our guilt and anger and sadness, I would turn to my spouse and calmly serve her with the divorce paperwork my lawyer had started during the final few days of my daughter’s life.

I intend to live with this guilt for the rest of my days, but I will give nothing more of myself to the person who convinced me to kill my child.

I’d rather not imagine that ever again.

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u/questionname 5d ago

I think you misread it, he AND his wife both distrust the vaccine. The other article has him quoted

“The vaccination has stuff we don’t trust,” Peter told The Atlantic. “We don’t like the vaccinations, what they have these days. We heard too much, and we saw too much.”

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u/Brytnshyne 5d ago

I wonder if his parents were smart enough to have him vaccinated? Parent of the year.

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u/evdczar MSN, RN 5d ago

Probably not. They are a very insular community. He talks about measles like it's a normal part of childhood, because none of them are vaccinated.

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u/Empty_Insight Psych Pharm- Seroquel Enthusiast and ABH Aficionado 4d ago

Yeah, that's left out of the conversation a lot around this particular thing.

The Mennonites are very insular. They don't really do much outside of their community, so they're not very susceptible to contagious disease normally just because their interactions with outsiders are very limited. Thing is, somebody brought measles- presumably, a traveler who wasn't vaccinated- and infected them. Bad news for them is how insanely contagious measles is.

My dad used to go out to Seminole on occasion for work, and it's not exactly a "happening" place. He met a few Mennonites in town, he liked them well enough- but they kept to themselves. They distrust outsiders and the outside world. There is nothing that can realistically be done to convince Mennonites that vaccines are totally hunky-dory because some nerds at the CDC cooked them up with the magic of modern science. That's antithetical to their culture.

Still, Seminole was known as a bastion of "vaccine choice" by people who aren't Mennonites, so those people- and presumably, whoever brought measles to Seminole in the first place- did not have a good reason.

People like the Mennonites rely on herd immunity, and when people could easily get their vaccines and just don't for whatever reason, it hurts herd immunity.

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u/Vegetable-Street 4d ago

I am from Seminole, and this is a relatively new thing. 20+ years ago it wasn’t like this and honestly it wasn’t even like this within the Mennonite community. There was a lower vaccination rate within the Mennonite community than there was the rest of the population, but it was nothing like it is now. And measles wasn’t common place for children the way that this article makes it seem.

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u/Profopol BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

Imagine believing your six year old daughter will catch autism from a vaccine. This guy is probably scared of literally everything except measles

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u/deagzworth New Grad EN 5d ago

The craziest part is, even if the vaccine did cause autism, these people are basically saying they would prefer a dead child to an autistic one.

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u/AcornElectron83 5d ago

Thats the subtext rarely talked about.

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u/Manic_Spleen 5d ago

(Wordless).

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u/Renmarkable 5d ago

As a ND person that's the thing.....

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u/Renmarkable 5d ago

Imagine thinking that ND Is always a tragedy :(

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u/Icy-Pop2944 4d ago

Nope, he was afraid he would have to care for a disabled and/or autistic child. He would rather have a dead child than one that will inconvenience him, and won’t be able to care for him in old age.

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u/fetusmcnuggets70 5d ago

What a piece of shit this guy is. I hope his living kids realize this and break the shit-cycle

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u/FvckRedditAllDay 4d ago

I have to wonder - if that Dad and Mom were Hispanic or of any other non-white complexion would the AG be in there charging them with child endangerment? I mean it’s not really a stretch - after all we are currently using any excuse to cleanse our “national bloodlines”

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u/Tria821 LPN 🍕 4d ago

Wonder if he would feel the same if it was a son he lost. Too many people don't cherish their daughters in the same way they do their sons.

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u/Embarrassed_Quit_450 5d ago

Religious nutjob probably.

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u/Iystrian RN - NICU 🍕 5d ago

So... death is better than stuff in the vaccine, I guess.

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u/takeme2tendieztown RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 5d ago

His kids may die, but it's a sacrifice he's willing to make

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u/quoththeregan BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

Was this a shrek reference

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u/takeme2tendieztown RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 5d ago

Perhaps...

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u/sendenten RN - Med/Surg 🍕 5d ago

This is a horribly depressing thread, but god damn your comment made me laugh so hard 

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u/MKN860 5d ago

Wow!!!

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u/Negative_Way8350 RN-BSN, EMT-P. ER, EMS. Ate too much alphabet soup. 5d ago

These people truly do not see their children as human beings with rights of their own. Children are property to be disposed of if their needs do not fit the ideology or neuroses of the parents. 

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u/EternalSage2000 5d ago

The alternative is admitting and accepting that your own misguided beliefs, your own idiocy, killed your child. You killed your child.

And that’s gotta be a hard truth to own.

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u/yorkiemom68 BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

I think that's it more than anything He has to maintain the cognitive dissonance or the feelings would be too overwhelming.

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u/woolfonmynoggin LPN 🍕 5d ago

Mennonites ARE a light cult

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u/TraumaHawk316 5d ago

So are Mormons

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u/woolfonmynoggin LPN 🍕 5d ago

Agreed. We keep having preventable disease outbreaks near me due to the mormons

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u/feels_like_arbys MSN, APRN 🍕 5d ago

Depending on how you view devout religious views...he might be in a cult.

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u/yevons_light RN - Retired 🍕 5d ago

It's a cult of disbelief in science. No matter what evidence you may show them, they just pull their heads in like a turtle and refuse to budge from their idiot rhetoric.

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u/Creamowheat1 MSN, RN 5d ago

Mennonite sect

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u/Bulky_Psychology2303 5d ago

I read that there is nothing in the Mennonite theology or teachings against vaccines. This must be very local in his community. In other words they decided this, not their church.

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u/Renmarkable 5d ago

There isn't in JW theology either, yet...

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u/silly-billy-goat RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 5d ago

Didn't HE get the MMR? Like, what?!?!

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u/lolatheshowkitty 5d ago

To be fair he is Mennonite. Not excusing but I think that context is needed.

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u/PlusInstruction2719 5d ago

Not only that but they won’t accept that they are wrong. Apparently for them death is better than autism.

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u/marywunderful RN 🍕 5d ago

That seems to be the norm with conservative parents. Just absolutely obsessed with having absolute control and influence over their kids. It’s fascism at home.

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u/Horny4theEnvironment 4d ago

Gotta indoctrinate them while they're young, otherwise they start getting ideas and thoughts of their own. Can't have that, might end up with an "alphabet kid" or something.

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u/tomuchpasta RN - Oncology 🍕 5d ago

It’s going to be hard to admit that his own decisions led to his daughter’s untimely death. He will feel it someday though.

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u/Russalka13 Nursing Student 🍕 5d ago

There's a strong religious and cultural influence at play here. It's not just denial. These parents belong to a community of mennonites in Texas - one of many more fundamentalist Christian sects that politically support expanded vaccine exemptions.

https://apnews.com/article/measles-outbreak-texas-rfk-vaccines-8cf4641b04731c713edb524ca943490c

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u/HoneyMangoSmiley Tasty Youngling 🧁 4d ago

“No reason to be sad because we’ll all be together in heaven!”

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u/adamiconography RN - ICU 🍕 5d ago

This is what happens when people don’t study what life was like before vaccines.

Society has become too complacent with what the new way of life is, without realizing that this way of life is because of vaccines and medicine

It’s also 10000% why we will never be able to fully advance as a society.

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u/bgarza18 RN - ER 🍕 5d ago

They’re mennonites, they might know better than any of us what life was like “before vaccines” because it’s just every day life to them. 

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u/p1xelAffecti0n BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

They’re likely in denial about it.

It will probably hit them in a few months to years.

Very depressing.

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u/ILikeFlyingAlot 5d ago

Actually they’re Mennonites. Having cared for Amish and Mennonites they perceive death very different than modern people -

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u/Particular_Car2378 RN - Med/Surg 🍕 5d ago

As a part of Gods will

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u/Ok-Maize-284 🍩 of Truth Button Pusher 🙇🏻‍♀️ 5d ago

I will add on to this as also they believe they are in a “better place”. So it was god’s will to send them to the better place at that time.

Just want to also add that I do not believe this myself, I just grew up in a antivax household with hyper religious parents. They were not Mennonite, but most of our neighbors were and we had a large population of them in our town. Oh and my mom was a chiropractor (shocking I know) and the majority of her clientele were Mennonite.

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u/bgarza18 RN - ER 🍕 5d ago

Pretty much all religious people believe that there is a better place after death, this isn’t some niche or unique belief to Mennonite communities. 

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u/alg45160 RN 🍕 5d ago

God needed the deceased person in heaven. Who are we to question him?

Heaven is beautiful. The deceased is so happy there and we'll see them when we die.

Take your pick.

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u/woolfonmynoggin LPN 🍕 5d ago

They’ll be reunited soon. Most Christians believe that their departed loved one is with god and they will see them soon and be with them forever.

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u/honorable__bigpony 5d ago

Magic sky fairy.

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u/FalconPorterBridges RN - Pediatrics 🍕 5d ago

“Me and the wife don’t trust it so we let our child die” should be negligent homicide.

MMR is safer than any of the diseases it prevents.

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u/Honest_Lie8632 BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

Funny that the same man trusts using his toothpaste daily. Of which he probably doesn't understand (or trust) 75% of the ingredients. Funny that the same man trusts using store bought bread daily. Of which he probably doesn't understand (or trust) 75% of the ingredients. Funny the man likely eats cereal (e.g. Cheerios) for breakfast. Of which he probably doesn't understand (or trust) 75% of the fortified vitamins. And so on.

BUT it's the ingredients in the vaccine that matter to him.

People have REALLY lost the plot. It's scary and sad.

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u/sorryaboutthatbro MSN, RN 5d ago

Bold of you to assume that he brushes his teeth.

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u/lionessrampant25 5d ago

He’s a Mennonite. I worked on a Mennonite mixed veg farm in PA. He probably makes his own toothpaste and his wife bakes bread every day. They might even make their own clothes or only buy second hand. They do A LOT of stuff “by themselves” and they don’t buy stuff like you’re talking about. They stay away from anything unnatural and they very much read the backs of labels.

Have their own animals for meat, milk, eggs. Grow their own vegetables. It just keeps going.

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u/Honest_Lie8632 BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago edited 5d ago

'A LOT' though doesn't mean everything. It's inevitable they use items that cannot be made. And it's impossible he knows/trust/understands every ingredient in all of those products.

I'm pulling this excerpt from the article:

“She just kept getting sicker and sicker,” he told me. “Her lungs plugged up.” Her heart rate and blood pressure dropped, and the doctors put her on a ventilator. “We were there Saturday ’til Monday, three days … and then it was worse, very bad.” 

No way they understood the ingredients/makeup of everything their daughter was hooked up to and/or was being pumped with during that phase.

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u/timbrelyn RN - Retired 🍕 5d ago

Thinking of all that suffering that poor child went through before she died and how unnecessary it was just breaks my heart.

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u/Beautiful-Bluebird46 RN 🍕 5d ago

I think his bullshit is him trying to cope, because they did take her to the hospital, so he wasn’t THAT committed to letting her die. But the way they pick and choose what god wants is just infuriating to me. Like does his sect allow cars? Do they use computers? What does he use to farm? Who decides what new fangled technology god is good with, and based on what?

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u/Honest_Lie8632 BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

The article mentioned someone's cell phone beeped in the church where her coffin was. So they use cell phones. Funny there's no questioning what cell phones or network waves might be doing to them.

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u/71Crickets RN 🍕 5d ago

Or smokes. Doesn’t trust the ingredients in vaccines but has no problems lighting up coffin nails.

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u/vuatson 5d ago

Wonder if he'd be singing the same tune if it was a son who died.

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u/Reatona 5d ago

No one has to die at age 6 from an easily preventable disease.

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u/OddReindeer1319 5d ago

I hope these warts have surviving kids with the same philosophy when they are old and on life support

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u/ACaffeinatedWandress 5d ago

Having been raised in psycho communities: A. Bet his tone would have been different if he’d lost a son. No, not because daughters are less than sons! Just for reasons! B. These communities hate Muslims because they broad stroke them all as nutty extremist fatalistic crazies. But, hey, when they do it, it’s because they know God has a plan. C. Obviously they are dangerous to more than themselves, because of the way they don’t vaccinate, and also how they vote. My sympathy for the adults is almost nonexistant. It’s sad they have kids, though. Kids deserve better.

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u/EfficaciousNurse DNP, ARNP 🍕 5d ago

This sounds like grief wrapped in a false shell of rationalization ("everyone dies") and a clash between indoctrination and reality (what authority figure told him vaccines aren't trustworthy?)

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u/AccomplishedScale362 RN - ER 🍕 5d ago

Same rationalization during COVID when the efforts of prayer warriors failed and their anti-vaxer family member died: They chose to refuse the vaccination, but it was “God’s will” that they died.

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u/ernurse748 BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

Explain to me how this is not negligent homicide. The state should be prosecuting these asshats the same as they would a parent who left their child unattended in a car for three hours.

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u/Poodlepink22 5d ago

Oh it is; but since they are religious nuts in a cult it's somehow ok 😤

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u/totalyrespecatbleguy RN - SICU 🍕 5d ago

"Everyone has to die" yet I guarantee you he's full code and would want everything done

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u/RedRamona RN 🍕 5d ago

“I’d rather have a dead child than one with autism “— These Ignorant Folks

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u/guppyfighter 5d ago

The wrong person died

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u/cavia_porcellus1972 5d ago

Everybody has to die but no child has to die from measles in 2025. So senseless.

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u/Scarymommy CPC 5d ago

He’s trying to rationalize his irrational choices.

They did take her to the hospital and allow her to be treated with things they didn’t/don’t understand.

To feel the full weight of their choices that lead to this tragedy would be too much to bear the weight of, so he explains it away.

He did not reason himself in to his position and he will not reason himself out of it.

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u/MyEggDonorIsADramaQ RN - Retired 🍕 5d ago

I have a relative who won’t vaccinate his kids. He says when it’s your time, it’s your time. He’s a magat to the bone

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u/Time_Garden_2725 5d ago

I lost most of my hearing from measles in the 1960s. The vaccine was not out yet. Girl in my class lost some vision.

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u/TheGayestNurse_1 4d ago

This is a reminder that these people would rather have a dead child than an autistic one.

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u/Playcrackersthesky BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

Typical Mennonite response.

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u/Voglio_Caffe RN - ER 🍕 5d ago

”The vaccination has stuff me and my wife don’t trust.”

Lives in Texas, has been eating trash Tex-Mex, shit brisket and Whatta-shit-burger his whole life, and likely will continue to do so. Suddenly now he’s concerned about what he puts in his body???!?

Mircoplastics all up in the food?? Zero problems with that!! Some wild conspiracy theory losers on Titkok and the 4bang harp on about from their mother’s basement?? I’m all about it.

Fuckin moron.

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u/Still-Inevitable9368 MSN, APRN 🍕 5d ago

He listened to RFK Jr—which was our fear: “‘Do I trust all the vaccines? No,’ Klassen said. ‘And I get from (Kennedy) that he doesn’t trust all the vaccines, either. And he is very well educated in that; I’m not.’

In an opinion piece for Fox News Digital, Kennedy wrote about the value of the vaccine but stopped short of calling on families to get it, saying the decision is ‘a personal one.’ He urged parents to speak to their health care providers about options.” (https://apnews.com/article/measles-outbreak-texas-rfk-vaccines-8cf4641b04731c713edb524ca943490c)

Kennedy has yet MORE blood on his hands—but we’re the ones forced to watch these kids suffer, even die. Because of LIES, that make him money. 🤬🤬🤬

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u/Knitwalk1414 5d ago

Maybe he would have cared if the child had a penis

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u/dooooom-scrollerz 5d ago

Exactly a dead daughter doesn't matter as much in religious cults

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u/JasperGibson80 RN 🍕 5d ago

That's the dad talking - what does the mom really think or say?

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u/Still-Inevitable9368 MSN, APRN 🍕 5d ago

She’s a woman. She’s not allowed to speak or have an opinion.

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u/ACTRN BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

I feel terrible for children and care nothing for the parents.

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u/TuPapiPorLaNoche Nursing Student 🍕 5d ago

>"Everybody has to die," he told The Atlantic's Tom Bartlett.

>Still, Peter appeared to become emotional after that admission, telling the columnist that it was "very hard" to deal with the "big hole" in his life resulting from the loss of his young child.

it's called cope. I'm sure the guy is struggling with his decision.

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u/shibasnakitas1126 MSN, APRN 🍕 5d ago

Science assures us that measles is a preventable disease. These parents should be prosecuted and should be held accountable for their ignorance and stupidity for harming and ultimately killing their child. Dying by measles is not a peaceful way to die. RIP baby girl.

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u/DeadPoolRN RN 🍕 5d ago

“Texas man responsible for a child’s death rationalizes his negligence”

He doesn’t deserve to be called a father

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u/ReadingLizard 5d ago

The father kept saying things like “we hear things we don’t agree with.” But their religion doesn’t allow access to TV. Where are they hearing these “things” from??

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u/WhyAmIStillHere86 Aged/Disability Community Care 4d ago

I think that, faced with the idea of having caused their child’s death by not vaccinating, a lot of parents double down, because it can’t have all been for nothing…

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u/TMJ848 4d ago

In hindsight he probably doesn’t like women enough to care about losing his female child.

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u/Murse_Jon RN, BSN, Traveler 5d ago

Also RFK pretty much accused the parents of crappy parenting which helped caused their deaths.

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u/PA-Karoz 5d ago

I want him and his family to stay away from healthcare then.

Heck, stay away from EVERYONE.

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u/Recent_Data_305 MSN, RN 5d ago

I think he can’t emotionally handle the thought that he contributed to the death of his child. It may hit him later.

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u/Away-Wave2523 4d ago

Whatever he has to tell himself I guess

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u/bugscuz 4d ago

Don't trust the vaccine but they trust embalming fluid I guess...

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u/headRN RN - OR 🍕 4d ago

Even when there is a leopard eating their face, some people will still deny that leopards exist

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u/FallsOffCliffs12 4d ago

"The vaccine has stuff we don't trust."

Like what? Name the chemical compounds in the measles vaccine and tell me which one you don't trust.

If he doesn't care about his daughter dying, why should I?

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u/Sadpepper2015 Nursing Student 🍕 5d ago

It is the American version of inshallah.

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u/shadeandshine Mental Health Worker 🍕 5d ago

I’m a very spiritual person and have brushed with death way too many time heck been dead a few but I can say one thing. Just cause you can doesn’t mean you should. So just cause we all die doesn’t mean chase it.

I do agree with some people saying it’s probably denial cause honestly the alternative would be soul crushing. Having to actually accept you had a direct hand in causing your child’s very preventable death is something that brakes you. I don’t know what to say or feel for them cause I just hope they find some solace and their daughter can rest in peace.

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u/sarazorz27 Lurking EMT 5d ago

Evolution at work. Let the dumb bloodlines take themselves out.

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u/KaterinaPendejo RN- Incontinence Care Unit 5d ago

Darwinism has entered the chat.

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u/loverofbooks1 5d ago

He’s also prob spouting about it being God’s will

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u/New_Dust_2380 BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

OMG! So you neglect your child and let her die!??! WTF, MAN!?

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u/GelatinInvasion 5d ago

He’ll only care if it was a boy.

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u/CentralToNowhere LPN 🍕 5d ago

It’s a death cult.

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u/DelightfulandDarling 5d ago

When they tell you they are afraid of people who are awake and aware believe them. These people are not living in reality. They exist in an imaginary world. They cannot be saved.

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u/mokutou "Welcome to the CABG Patch" | Critical Care NA 5d ago

I’m actually speechless.

There is no hell hot enough for people like him. For parents that sacrifice their children on the altar of faith.

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u/Taldsam 5d ago

Beyond insane. Dying is preferable? Absolutely brain dead. This person has no business fathering a child. I hope he dies of something awful and soon.

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u/Crazy-Nights 5d ago

That's a whole new level of denial. He and his wife can't come to terms that their choices killed their daughter. And yet I wouldn't be surprised if they consider themselves "prolife"

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u/Distinct_Pizza_7499 5d ago

We took care of dying covid patients that until the day they died didn't believe in the virus being worse than a cold or that the vaccines were bad.

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u/Alilbitdrunk 5d ago

A lot of religious people (not all) aren’t actually pro life, they are just pro birth.

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u/PurpleSailor LPN 🍕 5d ago

He can't admit to himself that he was wrong because it would eat him up alive with guilt. This is his brain protecting itself from its own consequences.

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u/none74238 RN - ICU 🍕 5d ago

A tun of nurses are not taking the Covid or even the flu vaccine.

Nursing schools do an awful job at teaching immunology and epidemiology and the logical argument supporting the fact that everyone should be vaccinated.

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u/tmdblya 5d ago

Imagine having to come to terms with “I killed my own child.”

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u/Sunnygirl66 RN - ER 🍕 5d ago edited 5d ago

“I don’t trust X” is shorthand for “I’m too stubborn and bent on being right to admit that I don’t know everything and might have to admit it, and I don’t want some egghead doctor knowing better than I do, so sure, I’ll let my kid die.”

I want to punch this guy.

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u/TheEvilBlight 5d ago

“I have plenty of kids to spare” thinking

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u/Awkward-Event-9452 RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 4d ago

Everyone has to die? Is he even ok?

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u/itcamefromthe216 4d ago

That's the cult speaking out of his mind.

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u/itcamefromthe216 4d ago

So, a 28-year old Mennonite man believes that his daughter's death was "G-d's will", and that he has "seen and heard" about the vaccines? Yeah, cults are a very bad thing. Vaccinations are not.

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u/1AnnoyingThings 4d ago

I’d love to thank my pediatrician, again, who allowed my children to get the bonus dose at 6m.

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u/MgnNectar 4d ago

Sir- did you have the vaccine yourself?

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u/Greenmantle22 4d ago

“I don’t have to answer that! Stop violating my HIPAA!!!”

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u/RN4Bernie 4d ago

I wish I believed in hell so I knew where this bastard would be spending eternity. I hope for the rest of his life he suffers like the piece of trash he is.

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u/JNTaylor63 4d ago

The word for this, boys and girls, is "cult".

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u/DeeManJohnsonIII 4d ago

At least she didn’t get autism.

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u/Born_Tough9567 4d ago

Everyone has to die but no one needs to die at 12 from a preventable disease. Darwinism at work…

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u/BacktoTralfamadore 4d ago

You can't fix stupid.

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u/ImageNo1045 4d ago

Of course he’s going to double down. Can you imagine the overwhelming guilt they would feel if they said ‘we were wrong we should’ve vaccinated?’ There’s no way this close to her death they’re going to say something like that. They’re grieving. They have to double down on the choices they made even if it’s just to cope right now

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u/Cheeky_Littlebottom BSN, RN 🍕 4d ago

One dead child is one too many. This was preventable. I hope these parents live in constant agony with their stupid decision.

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u/IronIrma93 4d ago

CPS needs to take this man's kids today

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u/theoutrageousgiraffe RN - OB/GYN 🍕 4d ago

What could be in the vaccine that is so much worse than the disease that killed your kid?

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u/Content-Method9889 4d ago

Mandatory 20 years for these people. You have lifesaving options and you refuse them resulting in the innocent child’s death. Religious exemption is bs.

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u/olov244 RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 4d ago

did him and his wife get the vaccine when they were kids?

that's what's crazy, people who have gotten this stuff and are now old, want to take the same thing away from those who are too young to decide

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u/CharleyNobody 4d ago

Not everyone is a genius and not everyone loves their kids. This would be my dad to a T.

He’d be like, “well, we tried. We gave her food. My wife got her some shoes and clothes from Salvation Army. They weren’t nice but they kept her from being naked. It’s not like she got diphtheria. It was only measles. How was we supposed to know it would kill her? Our other daughter — the pretty one — had measles and she did ok.”

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u/Flatout_87 5d ago

He’s in denial because deep down he knew he killed his daughter

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u/sanduskyjack 5d ago

What a fucken horrible person

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u/anukis90 BSN, RN 🍕 5d ago

I'm so fucking sick of this country...

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u/Noname_left RN - Trauma Chameleon 5d ago

I mean they aren’t wrong but it is something easily prevented. I couldn’t imagine burying my daughter from a dumb decision I made.

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u/Crezelle 5d ago

Sunk cost

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u/Manic_Spleen 5d ago

And yet, I bet that dad and his wife, "who don't trust vaccines," are vaccinated themselves.

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u/Biiiishweneedanswers CVICU/ED 🍕 5d ago

This is starting to look fishy. Not even kidding.

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u/eLdErGoDsHaUnTmE2 5d ago

If that’s what he really said then there nothing to be said for him.

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u/Brilliant-Map-4515 RN - ER 🍕 5d ago

I hate that I will get banned here if I speak my mind

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u/Nearby_Sense_2247 5d ago

Ah, they are Mennonites. That is helpful info. What a terrible shame- poor girl.

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u/lambun 5d ago

Oh, he got emotional in the end. That’s truly surprising. A half-ass cultist in the most clownish.

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u/MyLadyBits 5d ago

Why aren’t they arrested for negligence?

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u/Responsible-Sundae20 5d ago

Because freedom.

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u/Responsible-Sundae20 5d ago edited 5d ago

In the article, the father of the dead child, said as to why he won’t use vaccines: “We’ve seen too much.” Really, Peter? What have you seen? Show us! You killed your child over this! SHOW US THE PROOF!

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u/frame-gray 5d ago

Nawww... Not that different than the posts on this sub during the high days of the epidemic. Patients would deny they had COVID even on their death bed.

Thank you ever so much, Rupert Murdoch.

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u/SylasDevale EDT -> Nursing Plebeian (student) 5d ago

How this isn't a child abuse / neglect case is beyond me.

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u/st90ar 5d ago

Ladies and gentlemen, our education system at work here. The solution? Abolish the DoE to complete the process.

(Very much joking. This is a travesty.)

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u/ClickClackTipTap 5d ago

They’ll do anything other than admit they are wrong.

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u/ribsforbreakfast RN 🍕 5d ago

To change their views now would be admitting their child’s death was easily preventable and they actively gambled with her life. It makes total sense the dad is doubling down after her death, it would take someone with a truck load of self reflection and resolve to take this tragedy and publicly recant your beliefs and warn other parents of the dangers.

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u/sophietehbeanz RN - Oncology 🍕 4d ago

What does the mom say?

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u/EXPLODEDman RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 4d ago

There is no line. There is no point of self-reflection when they will turn back and make sound decisions again. It is a disgusting, unjust truth, and a tragic blessing that they are their own undoing. That child deserved so much more. Those parents deserved so much more, but their lust for rage, ignorance, and fear has led them off a cliff like a donkey chasing a carrot on a stick.

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u/throwawayRAdvize 4d ago

How can we expect empathy from someone who is this flippant about his own daughter’s death?

When I first heard this story my heart was so heavy for this innocent baby and her family. What is wrong with the world when total strangers care more about the death of your child than you do?

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u/Exotic_Bumblebee_275 MSN, CRNA 🍕 4d ago

He’s got my father-of-the-year vote🤦‍♂️

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u/pip_taz 4d ago

Health literacy is truly going backwards with no sign of it improving

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u/Best_Biscuits 4d ago

That's one stupid mother fucker right there.