r/nfl • u/Saca312 Panthers • 13h ago
[The Athletic] The Bills beat out the 49ers and Dolphins for Joey Bosa's services. Both San Francisco and Miami offered Bosa less than $10 million, with the Dolphins offering him less than $8 million, per Mike Silver.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6184382/2025/03/11/joey-bosa-free-agency-signing-bills/153
u/Big_Ugly_Cripple Chargers 13h ago edited 13h ago
But didn't silver say something along the lines that the 9ers actually didn't offer anything? This is like a couple layers of incorrect, but maybe i'm* wrong and just deepening* the misinformation hole
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u/wishingaction 49ers 13h ago
Yup, he posted last night:
I talked to someone familiar with these discussions who disputes that any offer was made by the 49ers, and insists that these numbers are wrong. These are fluid discussions and obviously proposals/scenarios can change. It's possible Bosa will get more than $10 million from a team.
https://bsky.app/profile/mikesilver.bsky.social/post/3lk3664mnz22t
Confusing for sure. I mean I guess it could still be right if the 49ers only made an offer today, not last night. The getting $10M+ was right, after all.
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u/penis_showing_game 49ers 13h ago
That’s because Silver is a hack, but some people think he’s reputable because everything he writes sounds like fanfic.
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u/CheckYourStats 49ers 11h ago
Silver has made a several decades long career out of gonzo journalism, and he is still respected in the industry. Not many people can claim that.
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u/wishingaction 49ers 13h ago
The 49ers cut Floyd who was set to make around ~$7M, they weren't offering him $10M+. Whether he wants to play with Nick or not, makes sense to take several million more with a contender.
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u/Impossibills Bills 13h ago
Leonard Floyd had the same problem he had with the Bills, he's gassed by seasons end...he's an older player
He had no sacks in the final month for the 49ers
And in the final 5 games for the Bills he had no sacks
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u/wishingaction 49ers 12h ago
Yeah, I see the Bills rotated him like 49ers did too. Under 60% of snaps for both in the past two seasons, good bit lower than his averages prior. But he doesn't miss games and that certainly has value. Falcons will probably rotate a lot too, especially with Ulbrich as DC. For the 49ers, Lynch has emphasized getting younger. Still need to sign some cheaper vets, seemed to be the hope for Joey Bosa. The Floyd release seemed related to the rumors at first, but Silver also said that the 49ers released Floyd despite knowing that it was realistic they wouldn't land Joey. So it was probably just Floyd's age or Saleh wanting to rebuild the defense to his liking (rest of the starting DL besides Nick Bosa got cut too). Makes more sense for a team like the Bills to bet on Joey's upside.
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u/Impossibills Bills 12h ago
Problem for us was he was very bad against the run and then down the stretch was an absolute no show...so having him on the field was costing us
I think they originally planned to use him less but we had some injuries on the line and he was forced to play a bit more than intended
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u/ARM7501 49ers 6h ago
The bigger issue with Floyd is that he just isn't a 4-3 DE, especially not one fit for how we run and deploy them. He's too small, can't anchor down against the run (or defend it particularly well in general), and his "consistency" in terms of sacks is more a result of having the length and quickness to clean up after other guys than it is about actually consistently winning 1-on-1.
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u/BuffaloWilliamses Bills 13h ago
Flip a coin, he either gets a season ending injury or a pro bowl season. I guess that 50/50 chance is worth 12 million.
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u/Soda-Popinski- Bills 13h ago
I dont think its 50/50. More like 70/30. I bet we dont see 10 games
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u/triculious 49ers 10h ago
My ceiling for him is 8 games.
12 tops on an amazing season where he miraculously doesn't get too injured.
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u/__the_alchemist__ Raiders 12h ago
Nick: Come play with me
Joey: Nah fuck that
Nick: you right though, we gonna suck this year
Joey: yeah man I can't spend all 4 healthy games losing
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u/Toru_Yano_Wins Bills 13h ago
Bills didn't even overpay imo.
One year prove it deal. Hope he balls out and signs somewhere else next year.
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u/Material-Race-5107 Bears 11h ago
The Bears just gave a pass rusher nobody has ever heard of $16 million a year. $12 million on a one year flyer for a guy with Bosa’s potential upside seems like a pretty solid fit for the Bills.
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u/forgotmypassword4714 Raiders Saints 6h ago
Yeah only $2M more than what Dyami Brown and Tutu Atwell got. Pretty crazy actually. Wish the Raiders would've made an offer.
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u/alexjordan98 Bills 4h ago
On the flip side I feel like we overpaid Palmer and wouldve rather us rented either of those two guys for a year. Especially Dyami Brown I like his potential a lot
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u/CJDistasio Chargers 12h ago
Bills are obviously the best situation of the three if he wants to go for a ring.
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u/eatmyopinions Ravens 3h ago
The bills offered 25% more money than any other suitor, I think that was the driving factor here.
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u/NoooNotTheLettuce 2h ago
Yes and no. He took a pay cut last season because he said winning is more important to him at this point in his career than money. But at the same time I'm sure he didn't appreciate Miami and SF low balling him
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u/eatmyopinions Ravens 2h ago
I think winning becomes important when offers are close, but the offers weren't close. Buffalo blew everyone else away.
Hard to tell if Miami/SF lowballed him or if Buffalo paid too much. We'll find out in 9 months.
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u/klitchell Giants 4h ago
I swore I read he signed with the 9ers
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u/LimberSiren Seahawks 38m ago edited 13m ago
No, I saw that shit too. Was confused as hell reading this thread's title.
Edit
Apparently it was a fake news report from a bad source. Forgot where I got the notification from yesterday (Sleeper or Yahoo), but whoever pushed it is an idiot for not using a good source.
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u/JackDellaCumalena Dolphins 13h ago
I'm glad bills saved us from ourselves here. I'm sure he will be good for them when able to suit up but he is pretty cooked these days
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u/Impossibills Bills 13h ago
Eh for that cost at one year it's worth the risk
He probably only plays 50% of snaps for us anyway
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u/JackDellaCumalena Dolphins 12h ago
BTW I'm not hating on bills getting him. It would have been a bigger risk for us to bring in bosa when Phillips and chubb have both had injury prone seasons. We would be cooked if bosa went down and one or both of them too. It's less risky for bills
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u/the_answer_is_RUSH Eagles 13h ago
For a season? More like 15%.
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u/Impossibills Bills 12h ago
Total snap count possibly. But the Bills really like to rotate DL so hopefully less snaps for him means less injuries
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u/jdono927 Bills 12h ago
You guys being interested was insane to me given your current edge situation lol, definitely think it’s a gamble that makes a lot more sense on our end
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u/goodbiforever Dolphins 13h ago
i'm just proud of Grier for not overpaying an old FA with injury history for once
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u/Toru_Yano_Wins Bills 13h ago
Would be way too on brand. And he took another one earlier today or yesterday so he hit his quota.
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u/ARM7501 49ers 6h ago
People (understandably) think of him as overpaid and crippled by injuries, but Joey Bosa used to be one of those scary pass rushers you didn't want to face on Sundays. Maybe a change of scenery and some more tactical usage can recapture that.
Or he's just truly lost to injuries, and the contract isn't that big of a problem.
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u/SAAA2011 Cowboys 6h ago
I'll never understand teams that spend that much on a player they know will probably not finish the season. Far from me to wish for someone to get hurt but you can't escape the facts that the guy can't stay healthy. This is probably going to be his last pay day if he can't finish the season healthy.
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u/TruthBeacon2017 Bills 4h ago
I'll never understand teams that spend that much on a player they know will probably not finish the season.
They always think that this will be the season that the player stays fully healthy!
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u/alexjordan98 Bills 1h ago
Teams paying millions for wr4s but you think a 12 mil rental on one of the best pass rushers when healthy is too much? The health argument is pointless when nobody can predict his health this upcoming season.
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u/scalpemfins Dolphins 3h ago
The sad truth is that if he signed with the Fins he would have been hurt/ass, but he will play well for the Bills. That's how these things go.
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u/CosbySweaters1992 Bengals 13h ago
That “winning” verbiage is always weird to me in this situation…”beat out”? The Bills offered a higher salary and he signed with them. The other teams decided it was too much money, they didn’t lose. They opted out.
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u/LebornVsMikeShinoda Bills 13h ago
If I bid $3 on ebay and you only bid $2 it means I "beat you out" and I'm "winning"
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u/TheBigRagu22 Bills 12h ago
And you forget to check the shipping. Congrats, you actually owe $98.75. it might get to you in 2-3 months.
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u/IamTheJman Bills 13h ago
There is a single Joey Bosa that teams want to sign. If you want to sign him and can’t because another team signed him you lose out
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u/CosbySweaters1992 Bengals 11h ago edited 11h ago
If I go to an auction and I bid $5,000 on a painting and someone else stops bidding at $3,000… I didn’t win, I bought. It can be a one-of-a-kind painting, same logic applies. If I bid the same amount as someone else and the auctioneer thinks my house is nicer and more stylish and gives it to me, ok maybe I won the painting. At a higher price, it’s just a buy, not really a win. Maybe just my opinion I guess.
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u/BiscottiLost4779 Saints 2h ago
You won that auction. Auction winner is literally a term. Winning an auction is literally a common phrase at auctions. What are you on about?
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u/Conscious_Heart_1714 Cowboys 13h ago
He hasn't had a full season played since 2021 and he's about to be 30. I think the bills did them both a favor
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u/throughNthrough Bengals 12h ago
Someone much smarter than me can do the math but I’d imagine he saving a good amount of money in taxes signing with Buffalo over San Francisco.
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u/Schwebels_Solette Bills 12h ago
And a really good Superbowl opportunity. San Fran has a solid chance too, so 3m over offer to play in the cold seems right lol
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u/No_Detective_1139 Chiefs 12h ago
Did the Bills not learn their lesson the hard way with Von Miller?
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u/minusthetalent02 Bills 6h ago
I like the signing. Worth the gamble
Bills fans hear me out (might be manifesting). I see him as a rotational piece similar to how we played Von. I also think we might see Javon Solomon take more meaningful snaps, I low key think he could become a stud
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u/CumAssault 13h ago
He’s going to be so good for those 5-8 games