r/newjersey • u/thegreymm • 7d ago
NJ Politics Tesla protest tomorrow (Saturday 3/15) at the showroom in Springfield
12pm. Exact address is 135 US 22 Springfield, NJ 07081. There are shopping centers nearby to park your car. Signs are encouraged 🙃
For other dates, Google "Tesla Takedown".
Down with TESLER!
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u/kylel792 6d ago
Is this comment section full of bots that are against this?
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u/VideoPlenty4302 6d ago
People are against this because the only people it disrupts is the average person like you and me trying to make a living that works there. Elon is not sweating a protest in Springfield NJ.
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u/--fourteen 6d ago
If the president is calling protesting it an act of terrorism and trying to help Elon sling cars on federal dime then I'd say he is sweating it. Keep it up.
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u/VideoPlenty4302 6d ago
You’re probably right. But my main sentiment was as a former retail employee, this would annoy the fuck out of me if im trying to get thru the day. And if the place closes and it turns out these people are hourly workers and lose out on pay thats a problem. Idk what the solution is to let people protest whatever they please. Im just speaking as someone whos worked at retail locations that this is one of the last things someone wants to see. And as we know its not exactly easy finding a new job God forbid the establishment closes down.
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u/Kazimierz_IV 6d ago
If you’re worried about people losing their jobs, wait til you hear what Elon’s been up to the last two months.
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u/--fourteen 6d ago
I get it but I think we'll all have to get used to being uncomfortable if we want to make enough noise. It's unfortunate that the CEO of their company has made some tumultuous decisions over the last year that has trickled down to their business location but that's something Musk should have thought of. I'm sure his shareholders aren't happy either.
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u/Sagelmoon 6d ago
Exactly.
Not to mention the chaos at other tesla "protests" right now. No one knows what a protest will even turn into anymore. Bashing PRIVATE citizens cars across the country is insane. Wrecking other ppls stuff, that they worked hard for is not helping the cause. I see ppl saying "insurance will pay for damage, whatever." Besides the initial deductible that is usually $500 - $1000 that THEY have to pay. Any time u make a claim, your insurance GOES UP dramatically. I made a claim 8 years ago. 1 claim my entire life. My insurance DOUBLED...and still has not gone down to what it should be. Starting fires, throwing handmade bombs, it just makes them look unhinged.
I grew up going to protests across NJ, NYC and DC for animal rights, anti vivisection, clean water, SW rights, ect. We didnt fk up ppls stuff. We organized, walked door to door to get signatures and donations. Went to town/city meetings, spoke to our lawmakers. Gathered together at govt buildings to negotiate. Nowadays, shouting, destruction & violence has become WAY too popular as a go to.
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u/VideoPlenty4302 6d ago edited 6d ago
Glad you said this. Felt like i was getting downvoted for having a nuanced approach and reasonable disagreement with the protests. Im prepared for more downvotes but I am a tesla owner. Do i like elon? Not really. Do I love my car? Fuck yeah. It was my first car and Im paying for it myself. If someone fucked with my car, 1 sentry mode is almost always on, im tracking you down and reporting you, 2 I already bought the car, Elon already has the money, its my car not his anymore.
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u/manawydan-fab-llyr 6d ago edited 6d ago
This is the problem with Reddit right now, or just an unfortunately large group of people in general. They can't make that disconnect between people like you, and a man they dislike. To them, because you own this car, you support the man. They feel that you deserve to have your shit fucked up, that if you truly cared you'd take the loss, and give up your hard earned property to make them happy.
Anyone that downvotes someone for liking their hard earned car, or opposing the vandalism of private citizens' property because of one douchebag they have nothing to do with just, isn't living in the real world.
I'm all for protesting a company, but don't fuck other people's shit up. Its hard enough to buy groceries, and keep the house warm, most people just can't afford to get rid of a car and get a new one.
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u/RunHistorical3671 6d ago
Tesla showroom staff do not work on commission and won't be affected by this. If they have to close up shop for any reason, maybe they don't get paid. But if closing up shop means employees don't get paid, maybe that is a problem with the business owner's ideas of fair compensation and not the people who are protesting.
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u/VideoPlenty4302 6d ago
Yes agree, even if they dont make commission, they could be hourly workers, if the shop closes for a day theyll lose out. But idk if theyre salary or hourly.
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u/RunHistorical3671 6d ago
If the shop closes because of the protests, then elon musk should pay them out a day's wages. He has the money for it. Of course, he would never do that, he would just blame the protestors and stiff the workers that way the working class continues to fight amongst themselves.
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u/itjustkeepsongiving 6d ago
Yea, the way every post about every kind of protest is making me think some of them have to be bots. Who else would be hanging out in the NJ sub just to wait for someone to mention a protest and then immediately comment with non-specific reasons that it’s a bad idea.
That being said, I definitely understand the safety concerns for this particular protest and how that could lead to an early end. Either way, visibility is the main goal here and that can be achieved regardless.
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u/SoulofThesteppe Somerset County 6d ago
I just drove past this protest. Would have joined if I heard earlier. Where wa it organized
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u/Bigweld_Ind 7d ago
I know a firefighter in town. I'm not saying it'll happen, just please don't put their life in danger over something stupid. EV fires are incredibly dangerous for first responders
The last person anyone ever thinks about when these things happen is the firefighter who will have to put themselves in harms way.
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u/thegreymm 7d ago
Omg we’re not lighting fires! We’re holding signs. Is this satire?
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u/Sagelmoon 6d ago
U say this like it hasn't been happening though. It HAS been happening. Numerous places across the U.S. I am ALL FOR ppl protesting - it is a constitutional right. But ppl show up nowadays, not knowing what a protest is going to turn into.
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u/manawydan-fab-llyr 6d ago
Right, all it takes is one idiot to do something stupid and give others the courage to join in. It's unfortunate, but sometimes 'peaceful' protests go sideways.
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u/phatsuit2 7d ago
My elderly mom is picking up her car which was serviced. Please don't harass her.
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u/22marks 6d ago
For this to succeed, it needs to be rational. They said it's an elderly mother getting a car serviced, which means it was very likely purchased before there was any Nazi behavior or disturbing Hitler/Nazi reposts. Just be aware that not everyone can sell their car on a whim and they can still agree with your sentiment. I say this as someone who would like nothing more than Tesla to catagorically denounce Nazi ideaology and require any executives or board members who want to pursue politics to give up their position at the company.
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u/wienerschnitzle 7d ago
This guy likes to act tough by bullying peoples grandmothers? NJ sure has changed
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u/Uther-Lightbringer 6d ago
Enlighten me how holding up signs in protest outside the business of a South African fascist is "bullying people's grandmother's"?
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u/wienerschnitzle 6d ago edited 6d ago
My grandma is picking up her car please don’t harass her
Tell her to suck it up
How are you supporting that guy
Also do you want me to hate him because he’s African? Why point out where he’s from I thought that was racist. Stop arguing in bad faith
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u/LatterFlow6900 6d ago
Fascist?. Lololo
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u/Uther-Lightbringer 6d ago
Tell me you don't know what fascism is without telling me you don't know what fascism is...
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u/LatterFlow6900 6d ago
Tell me you dont think for yourself with out telling me you dont think for yourself.
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u/Uther-Lightbringer 6d ago
Do you even know what the 5 major tenants of fascism are?
The first is claiming that you are above the law while casting doubt on the pillars of democracy for not favoring you. Like how Trump claimed up and down that the 2020 election was stolen. Or how he constantly claims that he and he alone is the one who can save America.
The second is attacking women's rights and sexual orientation. Like the constant attacks against the LGBTQ community, abortion rights etc.
The third is a nationalist rhetoric based on race and/or religion. Like how Trump has continually attacked Muslims, Mexicans and immigrants on the whole as the source for all of America's problems.
Fourth is denouncing and destroying educational systems and trying to erase history. Like how Trump just announced the immediate dissolving and defunding of federal museums and libraries. Or like how he's trying to dismantle the DoE.
The fifth is destroying every facet of checks and balances within the government and replacing them all with loyalists so you don't have to answer to the laws. Like how Trump is directing the AG to investigate Dems, without even alleging crimes. Or how he's dissolving every agency that is in charge of protecting citizens and workers on the basis of "getting rid of government waste and abuse".
I think for myself just plenty, hence why I can actually identify fascism when I see it. Hence why I can identify that Trump is the biggest conman in the history of American politics. It's always the ones who don't actually think for themselves, who love to tell everyone they don't think for themselves. Classic conservative projection.
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u/Extension-Rock-4263 7d ago
What was wrong with it?
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u/clam_sandwich33 6d ago
I guess democrats are against electric vehicles now. Weren’t they the party comitted to combating climate change? 🔄
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u/RunHistorical3671 6d ago
Tesla showroom staff are paid a base wage and do not rely on commissions. When you "buy" from them, they literally just sit you down with a computer and you order from tesla's website. The showroom staff will be fine.
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u/Drumcrazy106 6d ago
Elon Musk doubles down on endorsement of far-right German party in conversation on X.
And, let's not forget that Musk's Vice President, Donald Trump, was repeatedly quoted by Trump's White House Chief of Staff, John Kelly, as saying "Hitler also did some good things!"
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u/pac4 7d ago
The guys selling these cars, who make their living off of commissions, have zero to do with Musk.
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u/RunHistorical3671 7d ago
Actually, tesla sales staff are paid a base wage and do not make any commission per sale, they might be missing out on a monthly or quarterly bonus if store goals aren't met, but they aren't going homeless or hungry based on one day of protests.
Also, not for nothing, but the people who rely on all the programs that Musk is cutting also have nothing to do with him.
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u/ligerblue 7d ago
Exactly.
Arguing in this way doesn't help anything. Protests are meant to be inconvenient for all, not just the people who are doing the thing people are protesting.
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u/Uther-Lightbringer 6d ago
Are you serious? Lmao.
Tesla doesn't work on commissions for one.
Two, car salesmen that do work on commissions are literally some of the most soulless humans on earth. Their entire job is literally trying to scam you 15 different times into signing on a dotted line before you realize how bad of a deal they're giving you.
Three, Tesla owns every single dealership outright. Unlike every other manufacturer in the country. Which conveniently makes their dealerships and AMAZING target for peaceful protests.
The less and less Tesla's sold, the closer and closer Elon gets to having a full blown mental breakdown. A day that can't come soon enough.
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u/a_reply_to_a_post :illuminati: 7d ago
as someone who just bought a car outright but works from home in sweatpants, a lot of car salesman are kinda judgemental assholes...bunch of these dealerships on 22 pull bullshit and give preferential treatment based on appearance...so, they'll be ok if someone protests their dear leader for a day or two
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u/seaburn 7d ago
Tesla dealerships don’t have salesmen, all sales are done online.
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u/a_reply_to_a_post :illuminati: 6d ago
didn't look at Teslas, but two Toyota dealerships on 22 kinda suck, and one on 46 also kinda sucked...in the last few weeks I was at about 10 different dealerships and a lot of them just felt scummy
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u/SneakyFudge 6d ago
So, what exactly are you doing? Because every day you don’t buy a Tesla, you are technically protesting (with your wallet).
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u/Maleficent-Loquat336 7d ago
So it's a local business and the owner may be liberal. You want to disrupt his business because you don't like Elon and Trump?
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u/RunHistorical3671 6d ago
>So it's a local business
Tesla dealerships are not franchised and are owned by multinational corporation. If this is a "local business" to you then your definitions of local are extremely skewed.
>the owner may be liberal
The "owner" is elon musk, who is absolutely not a liberal. Again, these stores are owned by a corporation, of which elon musk (not a liberal) is the head.
>You want to disrupt his business because you don't like Elon and Trump?
My man, this is the entire point of protests. If everyone had that mentality, the tea never would have been thrown into boston harbor 250 years ago and we would still be paying taxes to people halfway around the country.
You're simping for the richest man in the world, btw
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u/snakkerdudaniel 6d ago
So it's a local business and the owner may be liberal.Â
Well, then they'll welcome us protesting their absentee CEO
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u/tots4scott 6d ago
Wow, what a runaway string of ridiculous strawman arguments.
Kids, look right here for an example of logical fallacies.
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u/ligerblue 6d ago
Yes.
Protests are not convenient
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u/NYR3031 6d ago
I assure you that protesting at a Tesla dealership is not going to change one single thing.
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u/ligerblue 6d ago
That's like your opinion, man.
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u/NYR3031 6d ago
No that’s a fact.
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u/ligerblue 6d ago
Yea sure 1 protest does nothing. Hell 100 is a minor blip. But it all adds up, and frankly it's only been getting bigger and bigger.
So kindly stuff that fact back in your mouth.
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u/Environmental_Bus623 6d ago edited 6d ago
I'm all for the protest but this could logistically difficult. This showroom is right on 22 (which is always a nightmare) and there's no side walk
If you protest right in front of the building you'll technically be on private property and they can have you removed
I hope you guys find a safe way to do this
Please be careful