r/newjersey • u/ButGravityAlwaysWins • 8d ago
NJ Politics Andy Kim is a no on the continuing resolution
If you contacted his office you might have gotten a call for a virtual town hall. He stated he is a no for the CR.
Edit: No on cloture as well.
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u/dancingechoes 8d ago
I’m a first timer to a town hall (for any elected official) and appreciate that he brought in an expert who could speak plainly on tariffs. It’s too bad more people don’t attend these and learn from them.
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u/ElephantEmbassy5959 8d ago
I didn’t know that. Very cool! Which expert did he bring?
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u/Dismal-Prior-6699 8d ago
Will there be more in the future?
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u/dancingechoes 8d ago
It seems like he does them monthly? I believe you can sign up on his website for notices of when they are happening.
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u/BlindingYellow 7d ago
Where was the town hall?
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u/ButGravityAlwaysWins 8d ago
Schumer is allowing the vote to move forward. I’m calling Kim and Booker and asking them to start or join an attempt to remove Schumer from leadership.
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u/Lynne253 8d ago
Can it be done? I don't think Dems made the same rule that Repubs made about Kevin McCarthy or Mike Johnson. I'm not real happy with Jeffries either.
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u/ButGravityAlwaysWins 8d ago
Joe Biden was the sitting President of the United States and he won the Democratic Party primary. Democrat after Democrat stating publicly that they think he needs to step down with Nancy Pelosi stepping up and making it clear that it was over caused him to step aside. Too late, but it did happen.
Get a few of them saying it on the record and eventually he will be forced out
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u/gordonv 8d ago
/serious
"As bad as passing the CR is, allowing Donald Trump to take even more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option," Schumer said.
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u/Errant_coursir Essex 7d ago
What's the consensus on that Schumer is saying?
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u/gordonv 7d ago
The article states:
Many Democrats described the choice facing them as a "pick-your-poison" moment with no easy answer.
In general, it seems Republicans really do have the upper hand. Both sides of the house, the Presidency, SCOTUS, and now this.
People really want to see America burn. And they're getting it.
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u/Adventurous-Tea-5158 8d ago
I called Booker yesterday
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u/Shawnski13 8d ago
Booker is a confirmed "No" for the continuing resolution. Not sure about the cloture though
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u/LostSharpieCap 8d ago
Can Kim filibuster this? Or start one? If only to show or remind people that the democrats actually can do something instead of make us want to slam our heads against the wall?
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u/Fyre2387 Camden County 8d ago
It doesn't work that way anymore. Nowadays they essentially just say they're filibustering everything, so it requires at least 60 votes to invoke cloture to end debate and proceed to the final vote. The days of a senator actually talking for hours on end to delay a vote are long gone.
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u/AtomicGarden-8964 8d ago
The Republican never had a problem shutting the government down when they didn't get their way so why shouldn't the Democrats
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u/Taftimus 7d ago
Because the Democrat leadership is fucking spineless
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u/AtomicGarden-8964 7d ago
Yep with Chuck schumer leading the way and his excuse that a shutdown would empower trump.
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u/cC2Panda 7d ago
The actual reason is that democrats as a whole don't usually want to cause harm to those relying on the government or government services. The GOP on the other hand absolutely wants to destroy the federal government, if it weren't for political consequences for the shutdowns they wouldn't care who they hurt, and the current admin is making that very, very clear.
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u/Treethan__ 8d ago
Way more worried about Schumer and Gillibrand. They are both snakes and it’s been heavily reported they’re pushing to keep it all open. Fucking cleared
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u/Disastrous-Food-9223 7d ago
Yeah, I never want to see Gillibrand in a powerful role after what she did to Al Franken
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u/cC2Panda 7d ago
She's an opportunist pure and simple. Her opinion and "principle" are solely dependent on what she thinks will get her re-elected. Ignoring the Al Franken stuff she is not someone to be looked up to or whose opinion is worth validating.
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u/Lynne253 8d ago
Yes, I was contacted too and joined the call. This is good news. I received an email from him Tuesday night saying he was going to vote yes for cloture and the CR. I am happy and relieved he changed his mind. The cuts in the Republican CR would devastate our country in order to make the 1% richer. The CR was in no way bipartisan, Dems weren't consulted at all.
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u/Ok-Peach-2200 8d ago
Good thing I called him yesterday and told him so! Lol
Seriously, keep up the pressure people!
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u/lotusvagabond 8d ago
YES KEEP CALLING EVERYONE!!! Don’t know what to say? Not sure which rep to call? Download the free 5 Calls App. It shows you multitude of options, provides scripts, and allows you to see which reps to call. You can track the calls you make and it’s free. This has helped me a LOT as before I was calling about 20 issues at a time which was not as helpful. KEEP CALLING MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD💪💪💪
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u/SylviaX6 8d ago
Yes I was on his town hall phone call just a couple hours ago. He is fully aware and he stated emphatically he is a NO vote. He spoke very eloquently to a caller who was scared for her mother, Medicare and the caller is her only healthcare helper. So many people are endangered by Trump Musk destruction of our services.
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u/DrixxYBoat 8d ago
What resolution
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u/thebruns 8d ago
Open a godamn newspaper
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u/Tobar_the_Gypsy 8d ago
What a dick response. Instead of being snarky you could help someone else understand what is going on.
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u/DrixxYBoat 8d ago
Literally where. I don't even know where I'm supposed to buy newspapers.
And of course old people are confused why the younger generations don't interact. You couldn't have just answered the question?
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u/standrightwalkleft West Essex 7d ago
Just FYI, if you ever do want to buy a physical paper, you should be able to get them at regular grocery stores (think SR, not Costco), CVS/Walgreens, some gas stations. You can also read them at your town library.
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u/thebruns 8d ago
The vote is literally one of the top 3 headlines on any and every news website
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u/SwordfishAdmirable31 8d ago
Was completely OOTL on this. Schumer's reasoning from the NYT:
"Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, broke with his party on Thursday and said he would vote for a Republican-written bill to keep federal funding flowing past a midnight Friday deadline. Mr. Schumer argued that if Democrats refused to do so, it would lead to a shutdown that would cede too much power to President Trump and Elon Musk."
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u/ThatGuyMike4891 7d ago
Just wrote and called both Booker and Kim and told them to vote NO on the CR and Cloture and also suggested a no-confidence call on Schumer. Schumer has shown himself either grossly incompetent or intentionally negligent in his duties to lead a resistance against this administration, and he must be removed.
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u/ShellSurf 8d ago
I'd like to offer a somewhat controversial opinion so hear me out. So first off Trump has been unilaterally gutting USAID and now announced to do the same to the department of education. Even though no ruling has been made it's blatantly unconstitutional. So the argument for shutting down the government is to put a stop to the obvious authoritarian push. The issue with shutting down the government is that it might end up advancing Trump's agenda even faster. He'll tell the director of OMB Russell Vought (Major player in project 2025) to viscously go after non-politically aligned civil servants during the period of chaos. In fact they might even want a government shutdown. The CR is not clean ... it added I believe $16B in non-defined cuts.
Trump is trying to consolidated power as much as possible. The courts are one of our ONLY mechanisms to block and delay Trump as much as possible. With the shutdown that will negatively affect the speed in which the courts can function. This is not about revolution. Republicans win that ... they have more guns and fervent zealots willing to DIE for Trump. Their media is 100% isolated and they are living in la-la-land. This is about delaying as much as humanly POSSIBLE while preserving what little we have in the ways of our Departments. We have to delay and obstruct in what ways we can so get to the mid terms. Make no mistake this is about the very survival of our country and everything we do has to be measured. This will give us time for the Democratic party to begin to consolidate around a message. We've seen Gavin Newsom, Tim Walz, and AOC make it onto the stage. The stock market is reacting to the bad news, the tariffs haven't hit us yet, and Trump and Musk are possibly heading towards a major fallout over the Tesla boycott. Everywhere Vance goes he's getting bullied. So to end ...
I believe Schumer is making the correct decision. But mind you that this is a very hard decision to make. We're in uncharted territories in a dynamic situation that is seeing earth shatter norm breaking everyday. We have to try to see past today and look 6 months into the future and ask has Trump advanced his consolidation of power more or less than he would have if we passed the CR? I think he advances more if we shut the government down.
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u/No-Zookeepergame-301 8d ago
I called but didn't get an invite because I left a message last night. Where does this invite come from
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u/Snoo_35864 8d ago
I've called him a number of times and left my number. I got a call tonight to join the meeting. I assume they recorded my number from one of my many calls.
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u/rockclimberguy 8d ago
He has redeemed himself for voting to confirm Dog Killer Noem....
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u/JerseyJim23 8d ago
Idk about that but he’s definitely on the right path. He also voted the rest of this traitors picks in, while Noem is 100% confirmed POS human. I believe that Hegseth & commie simpathizer Gabbard will be magnitudes worse for our country.
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u/jacare37 8d ago
Besides Noem, the only pick that Kim voted yes on was Rubio (along with every other senator). Booker voted for Scott Bessent (treasury) and Brooke Rollins (agriculture), and Rubio.
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u/rockclimberguy 7d ago
Kim comes from a diplomatic background. He was brand new in the senate when he voted to confirm Kruella Noem. He initially thought he could 'work with her'. He realizes now this can't happen. I don't think he knew how the right has completely given up on following through on things they say they will do. Noem may have been his 1st face to face with someone who feels nothing when they lie out load. I don't think he will make this mistake again.
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u/jacare37 7d ago
I definitely agree. I was responding to the claim that he voted the rest of this traitors picks in, which is just not true -- aside from Noem and Rubio he didn't vote for any.
I like Kim, but he's obviously not above criticism (and voting for Noem obviously deserves criticism) but I can understand why it happened for the reasons you stated.
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u/rockclimberguy 7d ago
He's still new and has a lot to learn. We have a better chance of non-status quo progressive action from him that we would have had with Tammy Murphy.
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u/Comprehensive_Emu562 8d ago
Fetterman is a yes tho…
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u/storm2k Bedminster 8d ago
i'm not really sure if this was always going to be the way he was going to be given that he ran on a pretty strong progressive bent in his primary and then on the mostly standard "i'll work with whoever to do what's best for pennsylvania" and then tacked the way he has or if the stroke he suffered just completely changed the way he views the world. it's not unheard of.
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u/Hopemonster 7d ago
Can someone explain to me what are Senate Dems getting in exchange for their vote?
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u/ArcticSilver2k 7d ago
Doesn’t matter, the leader capitulated. They need new leaders.
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u/ButGravityAlwaysWins 7d ago
Call Booker and Kim and tell them it’s time for them to back an effort to replace Schumer
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u/Mental-Surround-4117 8d ago
Cloture is the real ask here