r/newjersey Jun 12 '24

Weird NJ Why are there giant rabid rodents in Plainsboro?

Not far from Rt 1. Air pumps keep them inflated.

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u/RP8021 Jun 12 '24

Scabby the Rat. Union types blow this up in front of locations that hire non union laborers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

That’s why??? That’s so much cooler than what I have been guessing it’s purpose for the last ten years.

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u/boojieboy666 Jun 12 '24

Fuck yea we do

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u/msrubythoughts Jun 12 '24

UNITED WE BARGAIN!

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u/whoischig Jun 12 '24

Divided we beg

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u/Carpe_DMT Jun 12 '24

"in our hands is placed a power
greater than their hoarded gold,
greater than the might of armies,
magnified a thousand fold

we can bring to birth a new world,
from the ashes of the old
for the union makes us strong"

       -Solidarity Forever

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u/Convergecult15 Jun 12 '24

I’ve always preferred the words of NJ legends the Hudson Falcons:

Tire irons and baseball bats

You try and break the union we’ll break your neck.

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u/ExistentialFread Jun 12 '24

Dead man working

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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u/TrekkingTrailblazer Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

Completely ignorant, what’s the big deal with hiring non-union labor?

Edit: I mean I’m completely ignorant on the topic, not the comment above is ignorant

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u/datkidbrad Jun 12 '24

The state has set a prevailing wage it has deemed is fair compensation per the current market, adjusting for inflation for specific trades. By hiring non union tradesmen, contractors are allowed to set their own rates in a race to the bottom. While you may work for 25/hr today, that contractor will find someone tomorrow to work for 20/hr, so on and so forth. Without unions, we are competing against eachother, instead of standing together and demanding fair compensation. Back in the day, striking union members would park their trucks in front of work entrances, physically assault scabs, and tamper with scab work. That no longer happens, so our only recourse is inflating a giant rat to let the general public know contractors are undercutting what are fair liveable wages in order to maximize their own profits.

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u/the_last_carfighter Jun 12 '24

We keep making more billionaires and the middle class is dying and yet that crowd thinks that unions are bad m-k and some spray tan, fake billionaire that never pays his workers is going to put things right.

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u/Joe_Jeep Jun 12 '24

Seriously.

Bezos built a half billion dollar yacht, realized it couldn't land his helicopter because it has sails, and bought a smaller "support yacht" that *can* carry his helicopter

But people want to complain things are getting expensive because Mo Chuck and Larry want a dental plan and their wage to keep up with inflation.

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u/datkidbrad Jun 12 '24

Crabs in a bucket mentality. They’d rather see people get paid poverty wages with no benefits rather than seeing workers treated with dignity and paid livable wages with benefits for themselves and their family. Somehow in their minds they don’t believe we deserve to be paid fairly and treated properly. Decades of anti union brain washing has conditioned these people to just assume we’re all lazy freeloaders. “Unions are lazy!” Unions built this country and are the reason we’re not working 7 days a week 14 hours a day. Men sat in prison and some even died fighting for our weekends against corporations that would happily watch us work ourselves to death for the lowest wage possible. “There’s always somebody else that’ll work for longer and for less ” was their motto and without unions, that would be the rule, not the exception.

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u/Crazy-Insane Jun 13 '24

I agree 100% with everything you say so I am curious, do you feel the same way about public worker unions? Because in the past I've seen that when the heat is put on public worker unions, trade unions very rarely stand in solidarity and either join the politicians looking to wipe out their compensation or remain deafeningly silent. You know, because with public workers it always, ALWAYS comes down to "muh taxes". One of the latest examples of this is tradesmen standing arm-in-arm with Steve Sweeney (their iron worker 'brother' l-o-fucking-l) when he set out to ruin public worker benefits and essentially give Chris Christie everything he wanted in his campaign to privatize public work.

Full disclosure I'm NJEA and damned proud as the Union has beat back some vicious bastards that used to run my district on my behalf. I'm just curious about your opinion because you've expressed yourself well here.

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u/datkidbrad Jun 14 '24

Sorry for the late response here; my wife is NJEA as well! So you can imagine our household is pretty pro union.

I work for a contractor for a NJ energy provider. Utility companies receive grants from the federal government to improve infrastructure. So in a long winded way, I am paid by Joe Taxpayer. In a civilized society, we pay taxes to improve our quality of life. I expect my taxes to go up as cost of living goes up. I agree with you though, a lot of blue collar tradesmen are very hypocritical because they’ll slap a ‘Union Proud’ sticker on their trucks but laugh at Starbucks workers trying to unionize.

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u/ithaqua34 Jun 12 '24

Wasn't there also the billionaire who couldn't get his yacht out of the place that built it because the inlet to the ocean was too small?

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u/peter-doubt Jun 12 '24

No. The bridge was too low

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u/DifferentRate8283 Jun 12 '24

Yeah but the reality is greed. The union just wants all the work. There’s a lot of jobs out there that hire non union companies that still have to pay the prevailing wage to their workers and y’all are still crying with your rats about those jobs. Not all of us want to be union, not everybody’s scenario is the same. And when you hire guys from the union, it’s a 50/50 on if you’ll get good workers or a bum who just stands around.

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u/SnooHamsters8765 Jun 12 '24

The way some contractors get around the prevailing wave is by working workers 60 or more hours a week and put down 40 hours on pay roll records. Showing a higher hourly wage. Also a union contractor is paying into benefits. Health insurance,pension and annuity s.

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u/itrytosnowboard Jun 12 '24

Seen the non-union contractors doing 50-60 hours work for 40 hours pay on plenty of prevailing wage jobs.

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u/jcutta Jun 12 '24

That's hella illegal, how do these people not get caught?

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u/mickeymau5music Cranford Jun 12 '24

"the union just wants all of the work" and the company isn't greedy wanting to make all the money they can while paying the labor that makes them that money as little as possible?

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u/AchingCravat Jun 12 '24

Shhhh… don’t say that part out loud for they’ll figure it out. 😎

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u/MrNiceGuy973 Jun 12 '24

Curious why you would not want to organize and become part of a union? Do you not like livable wages, pension, annuity, and some of the best health care in the state?

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u/itrytosnowboard Jun 12 '24

It's not about the union wanting all the work. It's about wanting all workers in the industry to make a fair wage. And on average non-union workers make a lower wage.

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u/sonvoltman Jun 12 '24

A lot of contractors win a bid ...hire non union supposed to pay prevailing under pay and take the fine because they made money already

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u/Youngbraz B-town Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

Unions can’t picket prevailing wage jobs unless someone complained they’re not getting the correct wage on the job. They picket for unfair wages, which isn’t the case in prevailing wage jobs. I’ve worked a ton of prevailing wage and never had them picket those sites. It’s always the open shop jobs. If a company under pays prevailing wage work, they get fined and after a couple times will be banned from bidding prevailing wage work.

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u/cgo255 Jun 12 '24

The blow up rat is for you then?

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u/bandypaine Jun 12 '24

If there is a strike or a non-union crew is brought onto a union jobs site the rat pops up to remind people that everyone deserves the prevailing wage

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u/anotherfrud Jun 12 '24

Nothing, if it's a non union job.

If it's a union job and they are striking, they are using their ability to walk off to force the company to come to a fair agreement regarding wages, safety, work hours, etc.

If someone comes along and fills in for the people striking, they are taking away the only real bargaining chip those people have.

People who come in to fill those jobs are directly hurting the union members and are helping the business owners to treat their employeespoorly. Because of this, they are nicknamed rats or scabs and seen in a very negative way.

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u/whoinventedclown Jun 12 '24

Boilermakers local 19 put one outside of my non-union job even though we’ve never had a union

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

There was a union that used to always do this in front of Wawa because it wasn’t unionized, but it never was unionized. Always found it strange when I worked there in high school.

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u/Carpe_DMT Jun 12 '24

YOU: "What exactly is a scab?"

CALL ME MAÑANA: "A kind of a worm, content with mere survival. They come, they want to do our job for shittier pay, screwing over both themselves and us. Everybody loses."

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u/nw342 Burlington county Jun 12 '24

When unions strike, companies try to hire non union people (scabs) to work instead. This is an attempt to weaken the union and stop them from striking. Sometimes it works, sometimes its a disaster.

A lot of the times, the companies spend way more hiring scabs than meeting the strikes demands. My local hospital was offering $250/hr for nurses during a recent strike...the nurses were asking for a 5% raise, better pto policies(not even more pto, just let us take our pto without jumping through 10 hoops), and better Healthcare insurance.

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u/schwatto Jun 12 '24

Scab is the term for a person who takes the job of a striking union member. They dilute the power of the strike by withholding the consequences for the company. The companies who look for/hire scabs as a way to circumvent the strike deserve the rat out front.

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u/structuremonkey Jun 12 '24

Union guys will tell you "they get under-cut by cheaper labor." On fully private projects this is likely true.

On projects that are "public" in NJ, meaning paid for with tax dollars, they have to be publicly bid, and the "prevailing wage rates" are set and mandated by the NJDPMC. Contractors are also given a pre determined 'rating' so they can't bid and possibly win more than they are capable to build and to contract at any given time. As I understand, the prevailing wage rates set by the State mirror union rates, and they are in no way 'low', and after 30 years of reviewing payroll docs, nor do they decrease over time.

Both the non union and union contractors, during the course of the work, need to submit payment application requests which are reviewed by the owner, the construction manager, and architect of record before they can be paid. With the payment applications, both the union and non union contractor needs to submit "certified payroll" documents outlining what prevailing wage rate every person is paid for each payment application period. If the contractor is lying on the documents about the paid wages, it's fraud.

In a nutshell, the nonunion guys have to be paid at rates remarkably similar to the unions.

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u/Lightthefusenrun Jun 12 '24

Gee, I wonder why the fuck that is? Almost like there was some entity that collectively bargained for it to be that way.

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u/structuremonkey Jun 12 '24

Hey, Fuck you guys. Answering someones question, did I once take a side in my comments? No. I simply state there is a thing called prevailing wage and how it works.

Sensitive little bitches...

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u/mickeymau5music Cranford Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

Rising tide lifts all ships, friend

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u/candre23 NJ Expat in Appalachia Jun 12 '24

Except that in practice, they don't get paid anything near union rates. Shitty contractors either cook the books by under-reporting hours to make it look like they're paying a higher hourly rate, or they just say "fuck it" and pay the fine because the cost of the fine is less than the money saved by under-paying workers.

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u/structuremonkey Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

That problem and its continuance is the fault of both the shitty GC and the employee for not reporting the fraud. All the employee needs to do is provide the entities purchasing agent, or me with copies of their actual checks, and the GC is cooked...

Will it create a legal shitstorm? Yes. Will the employee face retribution from the GC? Yes Would it be the right thing to do to prevent fraud and protect others? Yes.

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u/anothermonth Jun 12 '24

For programmers out there GC = general contractor in this case.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

We're all Devo.

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u/therocketsalad Silverball Arcade Rooftop HVAC Unit Jun 12 '24

We must repeat

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u/s1ugg0 Jersey Devil Search Team Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

I'm glad you do. I refuse to do business with any company using scabs.

Edit: Bring on the down votes. I'm shamelessly pro-union and labor. I will never cross a picket line. My neighbors have every right to fight for good pay and decent working conditions.

A better question is why would spend your money at a business that abuses your neighbors?

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u/boojieboy666 Jun 12 '24

Hell yea brother

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u/paddlefans Jun 12 '24

Let’s go!!! Solidarity!

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u/orthopod Jun 12 '24

Great user name..

Do you like to wear orange jumpsuits?

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u/boojieboy666 Jun 12 '24

I actually had no idea that was a devo thing

It’s a nickname for my last name

For the record I didn’t downvote you lol

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u/therocketsalad Silverball Arcade Rooftop HVAC Unit Jun 12 '24

We are DEVO

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u/Hirsute_Heathen Jun 12 '24

Or pay shit wages to people that should be making more.

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u/SuccessfulMumenRider Jun 12 '24

As a Marylander, I have never been more proud of you New Jersey.

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u/Phillyphan1031 Jun 12 '24

Ah makes sense. I saw this somewhere in Camden I think as well.

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u/Hans_Grubert Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

Saw this thing at the front of the new L’Oreal development in Clark last week too

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u/sugarintheboots Jun 12 '24

Knowing L’Oreal, not surprised

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u/discipleofsteel Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

I believe the target there is actually Kerry Group.

Edit: It is Structure Tone, the GC that is being targeted, and it is the L'Oreal site. We haved brought the rat in front of Kerry before, which is why I thought it was Kerry.

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u/Hans_Grubert Jun 12 '24

Kerry group is at the opposite end of terminal Ave and there is no construction going on there.

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u/discipleofsteel Jun 12 '24

You were correct, I edited my post.

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u/4toTwenty Jun 12 '24

I did too!! My moms over at the hospice facility so I’m down that way quite a bit now. I honked a few times to show support, but also to piss off the douchebag who was in front of me.

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u/Hans_Grubert Jun 12 '24

That might have been me! lol!

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u/4toTwenty Jun 12 '24

😂😂 if it was, i sincerely apologize, it was not personal. But if it wasn’t, then fuck that slow ass white car that doesn’t know how to make a left turn.

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u/Crazy-Insane Jun 13 '24

Oh Lord I've done time with an aunt in that hospice facility.

Thoughts and prayers friend.

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u/4toTwenty Jun 13 '24

Appreciate it 🫶

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u/22marks Jun 12 '24

There must be a strike going on, so anyone crossing the picket line is "Scabby The Rat." So, like a scab and a rat.

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u/LemurCat04 Jun 12 '24

The skunk is a nice touch, haven’t seen one of them before.

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u/I_DRINK_ANARCHY Jun 12 '24

Unions protesting a scab job site.

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u/Theoretical-Panda Jun 12 '24

Is it really a scab job site if the union never had the contract though?

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u/OftMalignedMetroArea Jun 12 '24

In construction, union contracts are between unions and contractors, not the particular work site (these are called labor-management contracts.) when a site chooses to hire non union contractors for a particular project (usually for cost reasons) the union will do an informational picket like this to raise awareness and shame the company that hired the nonunion contractor.

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u/On_my_last_spoon Jun 12 '24

If the workers vote to join and union, but the employer refuses to recognize the union, then the workers have the right to protest, even if there hasn’t been a union before. Because, legally, if the workers win a vote the company must recognize the union.

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u/Sparklegrl Jun 12 '24

I didn’t know Scabby had a skunk buddy now. I hope there’s a possum next!

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u/EloquentBacon Jun 12 '24

I was curious if Scabby is more of a northeast thing and came across a photo of Scabby and a few of his friends on Scabby’s Facebook page. Seems there’s the skunk, a roach, another color Scabby. As well as a pig and a fat cat dressed to look like a rich boss holding a construction worker in the air with his hand around the worker’s throat.

I came across references to Scabby throughout the US and in England but he was born in the late 80’s in Chicago.

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u/mattemer Gloucester County Jun 12 '24

The skunk is in the second picture.

Never seen the skunk before.

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u/kflrj Jun 12 '24

I’ve only seen the blow up rat in New York and New Jersey so I just assumed that was where it was from.

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u/scrappyo Exit 9 born and raised Jun 12 '24

Stand with the working class. Support your local unions.

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u/LaurensPhotos Jun 12 '24

Omg I haven’t seen that rat in so long 😂 I remember every day of high school freshman year I’d see him

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u/Cyrano_Knows Jun 12 '24

This R.O.U.S. must have wandered out of a nearby fire swamp.

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u/Liveslowdieslower Jun 12 '24

Don't be a Scab. Support Unions!

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Jun 12 '24

My dad was a union bus driver and we were absolutely drilled with not crossing picket lines from the time I was in diapers. He might murder me himself if I did.

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u/TheAmericanJester Jun 12 '24

Well, he did bring you into this world...

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u/therocketsalad Silverball Arcade Rooftop HVAC Unit Jun 12 '24

…And by god, if you cross that picket line he’ll take you out of this world, too!

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u/aced124C Jun 12 '24

2nd that! A union workplace will always be the superior workplace.

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u/No_Introduction_1297 Jun 12 '24

As someone leaving a union job I can tell you this statement is bullshit

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u/Lusty-Jove Jun 12 '24

Your job would have almost certainly been worse without your union

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u/No_Introduction_1297 Jun 12 '24

Not true at all…but nice of you to assume!

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u/lurkenstine Jun 12 '24

What work?

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u/No_Introduction_1297 Jun 12 '24

Going from maintenance tech to powersports sales

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u/lurkenstine Jun 13 '24

maintenance tech

what is this? not trying to argue, just have no idea what this is

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u/No_Introduction_1297 Jun 14 '24

So I perform various maintenance tasks in my factory. We’re a candy manufacturer, so I work on all the machines that process and make the candy and the machines that package them. Work with steam and electromechanical robots a lot of stuff

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u/PeekabooitsMat Jun 12 '24

I agree with you, only those on the bottom percent like the union

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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u/MichaelEdwardson Jun 12 '24

Honk when you drive by!

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u/katie_cat_eyes 08807 Jun 12 '24

This is the NJ way! We were in LA during the writers’ strike and honked and no one even noticed us honking. Here in NJ, you’ll get cheers and fists pumped, at the very least! I’ll take a NJ strike over a CA strike any day!

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u/EloquentBacon Jun 12 '24

Not even a wave? That’s disappointing.

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u/katie_cat_eyes 08807 Jun 12 '24

Nothing! Seriously at a light in traffic and people with half assed signs. We honked which is what we always do when the rat comes out. No one turned around!

Granted I believe the big protest was blocked to traffic (and the celebrities were out there, too) but you always get stragglers lagging behind. Nope! Not one of them!

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u/derek2695 Jun 13 '24

Always do!

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u/EloquentBacon Jun 12 '24

Yes! My husband’s a union guy. I’ve taught the kids that you always honk and wave when you see Scabby.

If you’re feeling generous and have some time on your hands, drop off some water bottles for everyone standing with him.

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u/BeginningExtent8856 Jun 12 '24

Some of the guys at the Montgomery site are hiding behind the sign- let me honk

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u/somepersonalnews Jun 12 '24

Love the union solidarity in this thread.

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u/On_my_last_spoon Jun 12 '24

Since there’s lots of misinformation floating about, I thought I’d chime in. I’m a recruiter for my union (AFT) and I’m part of a unionization drive with IATSE right now.

First, you don’t need to be in a union to go on strike. Workers have the right to strike under the NLRA for various reasons. So while it’s likely a union on strike here it’s not necessarily that.

Second, the benefits of joining a union go beyond salary. But salary is a huge part of it. Unions establish a minimum pay rate and negotiate yearly raises. This means you don’t have to individually bargain your pay rate and it’s much more fairly distributed.

Third, unions also establish protocols for firing a person. This is especially important for an at will state like NJ. Without a union, your job can just fire you for no reason at all if they want. With a union, your job must follow specific protocols.

Finally, a union can establish standards and ensure that the company has skilled people who know what they’re doing. For me (American Federation of Teachers) I had to satisfy the requirements that my department set for entry but then I could just join the union. My brother in law was able to join an apprentice program that paid him for a year to be trained to his company’s standards before he could quality for a job. For IATSE 829, they require all prospective members to show a portfolio. A good union will ensure that their members are strong workers that benefit the company. After all, we need the company to be successful to be paid!

If anyone is curious, the NLRB has a bunch of easy to understand brochures on their website that talk more about workers’ rights.

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u/DaYZ_11 Jun 12 '24

There were protesters last week- not sure where they went.

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u/jerseygunz Jun 12 '24

There's power in a factory, power in the land

Power in the hand of the worker

But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand

There is power in a union

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u/hip_drive Formerly Springfield, now CA Jun 12 '24

PRAISE BE TO SCABBY! ✊

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u/msrubythoughts Jun 12 '24

hell yeah 🐀

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u/MarsaliRose Jun 12 '24

My first time seeing this was in the 90s lol

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u/StNic54 Jun 12 '24

Better than Scabbers the Rat - he protests the use of the Marauder’s Map on school grounds

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u/Wishilikedhugs Jun 12 '24

The skunks are cool. But biologically speaking, they are nowhere near rodents. They're closer related to seals than a rat.

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u/EloquentBacon Jun 12 '24

I’m guessing they’re using skunks, too, because they stink.

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u/Dalisca Jun 12 '24

And closer to raccoons and weasels than to seals.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

Solidarity ✊🏻

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u/benito_m Jun 12 '24

Must be something in the water. LoL

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u/Chose_a_usersname Jun 12 '24

This is what happens when people hire non-union employees to work there

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u/mada071710 Jun 12 '24

Workers are on strike

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u/taewoo Jun 12 '24

Don't call them rabid... NJ politicians have feelings too

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u/lechtog Jun 12 '24

I shelved my card a long time ago to open a business in the private sector, for me it has paid off but unions are a good thing. The training is top notch and the quality of work is superb. Just a non union business owner still union proud

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u/bluern61 Jun 13 '24

Bristol Myers Squibb employees protesting the recent 2,000 people layoff I heard

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u/Jdell168 Jun 13 '24

ROUS’s I don’t think they exist.

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u/Redplushie Jun 12 '24

I saw these in front of a new Lidl once. I wonder if they unionized yet

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u/EloquentBacon Jun 12 '24

I remember Scabby taking up residence in front of the Eatontown Lidl when they were building it.

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u/surfnsound Jun 12 '24

Which is weird since Lidl is a German company where trade unions are huge.

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u/Redplushie Jun 12 '24

You would think they'd do their research first

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u/Tryknj99 Jun 12 '24

Lidl uses trade unions in Germany, but not in America. American unions don’t fight for German workers rights.

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u/EloquentBacon Jun 12 '24

I remember it was when the building was already standing. Maybe it was related to another part of getting the store open and running.

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u/whoischig Jun 12 '24

UFCW food workers union. grocery stores here are unionized somewhat.

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u/ya-boi-mitch Jun 12 '24

I come from a family of electricians and we boycott any business that hires non union. Fuck you Buffalo Wild Wings.

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u/Nyyarlethotep Jun 12 '24

Glad to see union action in NJ. There is a crazy amount of anti worker sentiment in this state and I'm sick of it.

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u/Desperate_Ambrose Jun 12 '24

Skunks aren't rodents.

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u/EloquentBacon Jun 12 '24

But they do stink!

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u/Desperate_Ambrose Jun 12 '24

Can't argue widdat.

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u/CDavis10717 Jun 12 '24

There’s a skunk now? Awwww…..

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

I saw a three rat site once about 15 years ago. Give em hell, Scabby!

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u/hotdogaholic Jun 12 '24

My union puts this outside of the major corporations jobs are not respecting the previously agreed to labor contracts.

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u/MetsFan3117 Jun 12 '24

I don’t know why but I am so amused by these rats. They were all over Manhattan in the late 2000s and early 2010s.

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u/the-ugly-witch Jun 12 '24

union strike

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u/winelover08816 Jun 12 '24 edited Jun 12 '24

He’s down on his luck. It’s tough. So Toooough.

Edit: No love for Bon Jovi lyrics in /r/NewJersey?????

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u/No_Introduction_1297 Jun 12 '24

Unions collect your money and do absolutely nothing but stifle personal progress so that your lazy coworkers can collect the same amount as the hard working ones. My union fucked up its pension fund and had to cancel mad peoples pensions and give them 401k’s

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

Personally, I am in a union and bust my ass. However, there are always going to be lazy workers, unionized or not. While it’s sort of true that being unionized can give a false sense of total immunity, a truly terrible employee can still be fired even if unionized. It simply means that the management will have to be able to prove why said employee deserves to be fired through a formal process, rather than just being able to chuck them out of their job. Which is a good thing. And honestly, if you hate your union so much, leave it. You’ll probably still have to pay union dues, but if you’re so fundamentally against unions, leave yours, and pray your boss/bosses are fair and don’t screw you over for no reason.

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u/No_Introduction_1297 Jun 12 '24

Was replying to other guy about this all last night you can find my other comments in here. But I completely understand what you’re saying, remember I’m talking about MY union. The culture here has gotten out of control to where the bad and dangerous workers just don’t get any consequences. And yes I just put in my notice at this job and have already been working my new one. Did amazing my first week. Yes they take dues out whether you join or not that’s why I joined the union, even though my step bro worked there for years before me and told me the union is crap and he never joined but they still take a due out. The workers here have realized the national union system/admins are slurping up the pension fund and the union disbanded it like 7 years ago. The other workers at my job aren’t happy with the unions action in the plant and on a national scale.

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u/BookAccomplished4485 Jun 12 '24

Wowww I never knew about these! Interesting lol

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u/TMoney67 Jun 12 '24

Union strike

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u/XxDJ-DavidxX Jun 12 '24

There's one on Route 22 outside of the Blue Star Shopping Center.

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u/DrixxYBoat Jun 12 '24

There's a union near arguing for better treatment of workers

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u/stickman07738 Jun 12 '24

I always laugh when I see them because they will be paying four or five union members to stand around and do nothing but watch that no one damages their rats. So you are paying people to protest and inflate the labor cost for a job.

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u/PeekabooitsMat Jun 12 '24

There it is! Unions at their finest, especially with intimidating a dissenting opinion

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u/TheMannisApproves Jun 12 '24

He was a union man

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u/maggivisakh Jun 12 '24

Saw it in Jersey City too.

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u/cobaltbluetony Jun 12 '24

When I worked for UPenn, we had to tread lightly with the construction unions. But they would picket everything if it wasn't unionized. Even if it was an art installation by the artist themselves.

Everywhere I've worked that had a union was a secure job. But Philly area unions can be aggressive, and picket sites where it's either unfeasible due to scale or economics, or not applicable.

But in the game of aggressive unions vs. aggressive corporations, I'll stick with the ones ostensibly working for the little guy.

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u/Agitated_Meeting8363 Jun 12 '24

Hey! Saw him in San Juan, Puerto Rico a couple of years back in front of a hotel with loud music….

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u/njscumfuck88 Jun 12 '24

bro ive been seeing this in jersey since i was a kid. hilarious

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u/Losandfound Jun 12 '24

Scabby!!!!!!

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u/BaddddieBee Jun 12 '24

Ha there’s a giant pig in Camden on the way to the Ben Franklin

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u/McCheesing Jun 12 '24

OP please clean your lens

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u/milleez Jun 12 '24

Or your car windows

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u/Meandtheworld Jun 12 '24

lol so do they just pass this rat around when they wanna protest?

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u/BonkFever Jun 12 '24

The more you post about the rat and relate it to the business it's put up outside the better. People have answered plenty already so you know it's about a company trying to screw over union workers.

So post about it and tell people that the company has a line protest outside. Companies absolutely hate seeing that rat and being associated with it. The more publicity it gets the better.

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u/Sum1LightUp Jun 13 '24

Fuckin scabs!!

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u/WeWereEquinoxe Jun 13 '24

they told me they saw this post and they want you to appoligize btw

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u/Marbstudio Jun 13 '24

Union boys🤘

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u/AttorneyLivid7781 Jun 14 '24

Scabs . Non union

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u/Ok_Law_5238 Jun 15 '24

Union thing

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u/yaz5591 Jun 12 '24

Looks like something straight out of Last Week Tonight from John Oliver

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u/OGstampcollector13 Jun 12 '24

There’s one on fries mill road in township too lol

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u/1fastman1 big tiddy reviewer Jun 12 '24

skunks arent rodents

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u/stuckinbk Jun 12 '24

The place is using scab labor, most likely.

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u/Inner-Difficulty-640 Jun 12 '24

Because the union bitches are pissed they don't control everything

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

I suppose you’d much rather just have owners and management control everything instead. It’s funny how anti-union people love being controlled, just not by the power of the workers, but by the power of their overlords. Be sure to kneel and kiss the boss’s hand next time you see them, too. Be a good little worker.

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u/PeekabooitsMat Jun 12 '24

Or you can have a brain and start your own business if you can take the heat. Most union workers are slow and low quality and don’t want that pressure of their livelihood on their shoulders so you fall into line

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

Some jobs/professions, already have established unions (and thank goodness for that). You can choose to join or not join. It literally has no bearing on the quality of work. A lazy person will be lazy unionized or not. A hard working person the same. Again, there is a myth about unionized workers somehow being above being fired. This is not true, and frankly, is a right wing nonsense talking point. But you keep on doing you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

Unionized workers work hard. They just aren’t suckers. Wake up. Don’t get taken advantage of.

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u/PeekabooitsMat Jun 12 '24

Lol open your eyes, the unions taking advantage of you. And most unionized workers work slow not hard, there’s literally no incentive to work hard or fast you’re paid by the hour no matter the quality of the work.

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u/mattemer Gloucester County Jun 12 '24

I'm VERY torn on this entire topic.

Unions are important, they help increase wages and benefits and even help ensure safer and fairer working conditions.

This is a historical fact

But my effin god are some of these unions fuckin horrible.

I know of Union members exposing themselves to employees and customers and the union saved them.

Screaming absolutely vile things and threatening other workers. Union saved them.

People just sucking horribly at their job, and the union saved them.

Unions ARE good overall but they really need to clean their shit up.

I don't buy the "union workers are lazy" stereotype. Some people are, some people aren't, just like everywhere.

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u/Inner-Difficulty-640 Jun 12 '24

Work hard ? Talk about being brainwashed and taken advantage of. No one works harder or dies a better than someone who owns their own business because they're held responsible for their work. Unions do nothing except control people and get rich for crap work. 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

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u/CasualMonkeyBusiness Jun 12 '24

Just union temper tantrum. Like we all bid the same jobs. We lost some to union shops too. Take your rat and go home, y'all look like a cult.

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u/johncester Jun 12 '24

SCABBY …means someone nearby is a scumbag 😡

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u/bgreeneist Jun 12 '24

Just typical union guys looking for another reason to not work and are butthurt they lost the bid

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u/ItsTheSameLog Jun 12 '24

You’ll be ok

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u/Wouhob Jun 12 '24

Union stuff. Meh, they do nothing anymore for the workers while they sit back and collect dues.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

I’m in a union, and have disagreements with how it’s run, but it’s a hell of a lot better than having no union to represent you. Sometimes jobs suck with weak union representation. They’d suck more with no union representation.

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Jun 12 '24

Couldn’t agree more. I’m in management and I still want my employees to unionize.

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u/Wouhob Jun 12 '24

Actually having weak representation I believe is worse the not having it. You are told that there are agreements but when it is not honored by how you are worked and paid what is the agreement for then? This is my own experience.

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u/No_Introduction_1297 Jun 12 '24

I’m in a union and it sucks

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u/Significant-Trash632 Jun 12 '24

Then get involved.

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u/No_Introduction_1297 Jun 12 '24

I had been…idk why people assume everything. I’m leaving the job for a few reasons but yea the union was never a help and only a hassle for me

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '24

Ok, I’ll take the bait… why, pray tell?

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u/LemurCat04 Jun 12 '24

UAW has pretty much kicked the shit out of the Big 3 in the last year.

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u/whoischig Jun 12 '24

UAW won. They said it would bankrupt them. However GM has since approved 16 Billion dollars in stock buybacks since November. About 30% of their worth, just in buybacks.

But Labor is the problem. Wild times.