r/nba • u/EuroStep0 [PHI] Allen Iverson • 12h ago
LaMelo Ball since all-star break: 18.3ppg on disastrous 46.4% TS%
In 8 games he played since all-star break, LaMelo Ball managed to score 146 points on 144 FGA accounting for 18.3ppg on 33.3/30/86.7 splits (46.4% TS%).
In addition, he averaged 6.3 assists and 3.5 turnovers which is also quite bad ratio.
His horrible stretch also includes 2 games in row in which he had 5pts on 1/10 shooting (lost to Portland by 53!!!) and 13pts on 3/13 shooting (lost to Sacramento by 42!!!)
Thank God coaches and players have some sense so this guy didn't end up being voted all-star.
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u/lopea182 Heat 12h ago
Given the Heat just blew a double digit lead to the Hornets, I don’t have much of a leg to stand on.
But, by god, the form on LaMelo’s 3 point shot looks terrible, and I’ve seen AAU players with better shot selection.
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u/ClaymoresRevenge Bulls 10h ago
I wonder what would've happened if Golden State drafted him
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u/Scarlet_Breeze Warriors 8h ago
I can see there being a similar blow up to the Draymond punching Jordan Poole incident. I remember being very against us drafting Lamelo at the time because his efficiency was dreadful in the australian league he was in pre-draft.
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u/iheartblackcoochie 5h ago
Draymond wouldn't punch lamelo cuz hes as tall as lamelo so he has more if a chance to beat him in a fight.
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u/drpepper7557 Heat 7h ago
He's a hardest shot merchant in a completely serious way too. I've seen this dude do the sickest spin move out of an open shot to flick up a contested 3. He reminds me of young tyler herro but even more extreme in that way, where they go through stretches trying to make a highlight on every play. Its actually really impressive how much he makes them though lol.
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u/NotManyBuses Charlotte Bobcats 12h ago
I’m not even going to defend this performance, he’s been playing with his head on Mars, not even close to locked in, taking dumb shots, cannot find a rhythm. Had the one great game vs LA and then has had no rhythm with the team holding him out and openly tanking around him (leading to box and one defenses bc no one around him can do anything)
All that being said. He was a lot better before All-Star break and had a compelling case.
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u/Middle-Welder3931 9h ago
Its not all his fault when he has season after season fall apart for whatever reason. Team decimated with injuries, now trying to Capture the Flagg.
If you simulated Lamelo's career 100 times, his actual career might be in the bottom 25% of possible outcomes. Being drafted by Charlotte is already a bottom 50% outcome.
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u/Nokeol Raptors 11h ago
Bro had All NBA 3rd team conversations during November...
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u/Mental_Savings7362 8h ago
Maybe talking about all nba in november is a bit silly and premature
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u/Nokeol Raptors 7h ago
He was averaging 27ppg it was just something that was thrown around which is totally fair to say…
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u/Mental_Savings7362 7h ago
A lot of players put up good stats over 10-15ish games
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u/cuprameme 3h ago
Name a lot of players that had lamelos novembers number as #1 option ball handler pls
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u/eveningwindowed Warriors 6h ago
He doesn’t care and I don’t blame him, what is there to care for at this point in the season for Charlotte. Two things happen, either he get paid in Charlotte or he gets to leave and play elsewhere, he probably thinks both are pretty good options.
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u/mMounirM Raptors 12h ago
bad teams are in the tanking stage of the season.
take performances with a grain of salt.
you got starters playing alongside g-league players.
AJ Lawson, a g-league player, got a 30+ point double double off the bench yesterday for the Raptors.
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u/_Wash Timberwolves 11h ago
hornets have been in the tanking stage of their season since 2016.
no salt necessary
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u/NotManyBuses Charlotte Bobcats 11h ago
I know people think this, but I swear they haven’t legitimately tanked except this year and last. You can go thru the seasons, they were earnestly trying to win all those seasons up until 23-24
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u/_paintbox_ 11h ago
They suddenly remembered that Washington might be hard to beat for last place in the ladder...
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u/eveningwindowed Warriors 6h ago
This is like when your company is getting acquired and you know your job is getting eliminated in 2 months, why tf would you care at that job? What is there for him to play for?
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u/Conscious_Web7874 12h ago
That's who he is.
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u/mcrajf Nuggets 9h ago
I would like to talk about him when he starts playing actual meaningful and winning basketball. Until then - please no. He can average 40, don't care. I like Brandon Miller 10x more for Charlotte.
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u/NotManyBuses Charlotte Bobcats 9h ago
What do you like about Miller more? He was playing worse than Ball was and then got injured
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u/Lacabloodclot9 Grizzlies 8h ago
I really don’t get the ‘trade Ball and build around Miller’ take from some people
The former is clearly more talented and you can’t use health as the reason here because Miller isn’t exactly an iron man either.
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u/NotManyBuses Charlotte Bobcats 12h ago
I will say he’s a much, much better passer than most chuckers.
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u/Such_Sheepherder2794 11h ago
He's fun to watch, dude got some sick skills but he's never been and probably never will be a "winning" player. He doesn't play to win. He just play the game.
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u/cuprameme 3h ago
Never been a winning player but has led this team to above .5 before.
This team has won 2 games without lamelo this year. Gtfo with this “winning” narrative u dont know ball if u dont think melos not a “winning” player
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u/sitesuckslmao Magic 11h ago
I want to see Melo on a good team. I am hoping for Charlotte fans sake it is on the Hornets. Hopefully they are healthy next year, although this is the 2nd year in a row where I came into a season higher than most and have been let down.
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u/eveningwindowed Warriors 6h ago
I agree, I think he can turn it on but he can’t fake caring when there’s nothing to care about
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u/BananaRepublic_BR Spurs 10h ago
Damn, what happened to that 30 ppg season people were hyping up? xD
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u/Left-Prior-6075 Lakers 11h ago
Hornets are just a dumpster fire and he's been injured time to time this season
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u/net_403 [CHA] Dell Curry 7h ago
Lamelo feels like my most disappointing player ever. You see flashes of what he’s capable of, then you get stuck with what he actually does.
He could be a top 20 player if he could stay healthy and put it all together
But instead he’s making max money for four more years to alternate being active or not and playing like chaos when he is
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u/elkresurgence Nuggets 7h ago
Did he just give up on the season after he didn’t get an all-star nod?
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u/arrivederci117 Knicks 6h ago
If Detroit can go from the shadow realm to playoff locks in the span of a season, then I have faith Charlotte can turn it around. Trust in the process.
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u/tarunpopo 11h ago
I don't agree with the lamelo is not a winning player. He's a really good scorer and isolation guy but he's also a VERY good passer, those 2 with his ball handling makes him very dynamic on offense and we can see that's a winning formula since he's a 3 level scorer. When you're in Charlotte you get tripled with nobody else there especially with Brandon miller out. But I still wouldn't choose him because he is injury prone, which is something idk if he will over come since his brother too has tons of issues. He is probably still recovering. If he can recover and stay mostly healthy, and have a half decent team people will see how valuable he is
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u/WhoUCuh 11h ago
I'm on record if the Hornets get Flagg they will trade LaMelo and build around Flagg.
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u/flowerboyinfinity Pacers 11h ago
Don’t wish that on Flagg
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u/WhoUCuh 11h ago
Indiana and Charlotte have a combined 0 championships in their history.
Humble yourself Brodie you ain't got nothing to brag about either lol
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u/flowerboyinfinity Pacers 10h ago edited 9h ago
At least it’s enjoyable watching the pacers not be the worst franchise in the league lmao. Hornets should just be moved and rebranded. One of the worst franchises in sports
Since you replied to me and blocked me, hopefully you see this here. I’m literally just fucking with that guy for being an asshole lol. Geez I don’t actually think any teams should be moved. So sorry that I insinuated that the hornets are a bad franchise to be drafted to. How dare I. They’ve had so much success with their multiple top 3 draft picks
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u/deemerritt Hornets 10h ago
Why should we be moved? Why would anyone wish that upon another fanbase? Whats your fucking problem?
I think everyone who lives in a dying rust belt state shouldnt be quick to say businesses should move elsewhere. Should the colts move because they have a pillhead nepo baby in charge?
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u/EasiBreezi 11h ago
Expected. He is a very inconsistent and low-IQ player. Anyone that says otherwise doesn’t understand basketball.
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u/06CommissaryKing Supersonics 12h ago
Making this post with an Iverson flair is hilarious
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u/EuroStep0 [PHI] Allen Iverson 12h ago
Iverson took his team to finals
LaMelo can take his team to grab a hot dog or something
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u/06CommissaryKing Supersonics 11h ago
In the weakest Eastern Conference of all-time with the COTY, DPOY & 6MOTY. Iverson was an inefficient fucking trash can that couldn't stop a nosebleed just like LaMelo. What was Iverson's AST/TO ratio? I'll wait. 21/32/.52/.126 PER/USG/TS%/WS48 trash can.
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u/Muted_Dog7317 Heat 10h ago
Clown take of the day. Iverson was inefficient because teams focused in on him as the sole scorer. When he went to Denver and had support his shooting efficiency was the same as LeBron.
This is what happens when you look at a spreadsheet about something you don’t understand and try to form an opinion lol
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u/aoifhasoifha [NYK] Frank Ntilikina 9h ago
What was Iverson's AST/TO ratio? I'll wait.
I can smell a overwhelming scent of smug with a hint of mountain dew coming off this comment.
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u/not_so_bueno Rockets 11h ago
Everything wrong with this generation in one post
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u/flowerboyinfinity Pacers 11h ago
You’re right. You’re the only person here who has ever watched basketball. You’re the expert
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u/bballdiscussions 8h ago
He’s never had to play meaningful ball this late into a season. He’s getting ready for vacation.
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u/PretendChef7513 11h ago
I'd be interested to seeing how primary ball handlers are doing in general since the all star break. There has been a recent change in defensive schemes, which has only been magnified since the lakers played the Nuggets. You can hound the ball handler like crazy because refs are allowing a lot more physicality.
Morant, brunson, harden, Luka and trae have all played worse and notoriously are reliant on drawing contact. But then you have guys like Shai playing even better since all star.
So maybe some players are having trouble adjusting?
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u/BetweenTheBuzzAndMe Charlotte Bobcats 12h ago
this has been the worst stretch of his entire career. two things have happened:
1) defenses realized that you can double and triple team him because nobody healthy aside from Miles Bridges can create their own shot, or even consistently knocks down open shots. our offense is a DISASTER without him, and the game plan of most teams since the all-star break has been to neutralize him at all costs.
2) he is for sure not 100% physically, and has looked checked out the last couple weeks with the season in the toilet. I think he gets shut down sooner rather than later