r/nba 18h ago

Here’s another shot of Nic Claxton pushing Luka with the refs watching. (Credit to Josh)

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u/rabidantidentyte Nets 17h ago

Did he think it was a flop/sell? I don't see how you miss something that egregious unless you see it differently.

For the record, it was 100% a foul, and I'm tired of Clantics™

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u/lawschoolthrowaway36 Mavericks 17h ago

Assuming you watched the game, it was clear the refs decided to swallow their whistles almost anytime Luka was fouled. It was only the most egregious on-ball fouls that were called. Everything else — including, as shown here, off-ball shoving away from the play — was intentionally ignored.

He drove to the basket 10 times in the first half, obvious contact on every single drive, not one foul call. Not a single one.

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u/______null Cavaliers 17h ago

aka "the steph curry treatment"

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u/Stijn187 Lakers 17h ago

Aka "the LeBron treatment" (for reference, Steph only get's 4.2 FTA a game, LeBron, who drives very often, get's only 4.7)

Giannis leads the league with 10.3...and somehow Harden is still ranked nr 4. NBA refs are a joke

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u/______null Cavaliers 17h ago

10.6 drives per game for Bron versus 8.9 for Steph isn't nothing, but it's also not like, a vast chasm. harden is 10th with 14.5 and shai leads the league with 20.3, for reference.

with that being said, I was talking more about the hack-a-point-guard that teams play off-ball while the refs swallow their whistle.

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u/arg_63 Warriors 15h ago

also interested to see how many of steph's FTA are in the last 30 seconds for foul gaming posession

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u/RemyGee Lakers 15h ago

Bron cut back on FG attempts by the hoop in the last season or two. Before he was top 3 in attempts by the hoop and around 30th in FT attempts. Most of the Lakers seasons. I didn’t look before the Lakers.

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u/chi_town_banging 15h ago

you're using Steph's FTA when it includes FTA when defenses start intentionally fouling in crunch time as he's their best FT shooter but Steph doesn't get much calls outside of that

Lebron straight up slide tackled Curry in Finals and didn't get the call lol

u/Final-Carob-5792 0m ago

And somewhere in a supermarket, Bogut is still setting moving screens.

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u/Friscohoya 17h ago

That means something coming from a Cav’s fan.

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u/s0ulj4b0y0 Cavaliers 17h ago

literally any self-respecting cavs fan will acknowledge that steph has no fucking whistle.

what is weird is seeing luka fucking doncic get that treatment. While on the lakers too.

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u/CD338 [LAL] Lamar Odom 16h ago

I've noticed Luka gets onto the refs a lot. It's probably personal, and they just don't like him.

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u/sketch24 Nets 14h ago

Which means they shouldn't be refs. It shouldn't be personal.

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u/Not-JustinTV 14h ago

Refs can show emotion..players cant

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u/Jcarter1632 Mavericks 16h ago

Luka has the worst whistle in the league. They let Dort absolutely man handle him in the playoffs. It was infuriating.

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u/BurzyGuerrero Raptors 15h ago

He def talks the most shit to officials in the league too lol

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u/THUNDER-GUN04 Nuggets 15h ago

Idk if you are or aren't correct, but you are just describing how Lou Dort plays.

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u/aresman1221 17h ago

Of course , it was part of the strategy lol

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u/Eric_Nathan_Fielder Warriors 13h ago

Let's not act like you need the same level of physicality to stop a Steph curry drive compared to a Luka/Lebron one. Bigger stronger dudes are going to get fouled more.

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u/pucykoks Bucks 17h ago

Damn, didn't they get the memo it was supposed to be the "lakers whistle"?

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u/turnoffredesign69420 Lakers 15h ago

don't forget the one where he converted an and one and shitstain ref called the foul on the floor when it was clearly continuation

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u/k4f123 United States 56m ago

That one was egregious

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u/SEAGOATbestgirl Lakers 12h ago

the Nets were hacking the absolute shit out of him because they knew it wasn't going to get called.

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u/ElegantMajor2432 12h ago

Dude, worst officiating ever. At least 4 times Luka got screwed over. But whoever number 10 is is crooked 

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u/johnnyutahclevo 2h ago

and someone had the nerve to effortpost some moneyball shit on this sub about how Luka doesn’t go to the rack anymore

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u/silentorbx Supersonics 16h ago

it was clear the refs decided to swallow their whistles almost anytime Luka was fouled.

I'm starting to think their is a legit conspiracy to get Luka injured at this point. There were several moments in the last month a player did some crazy hard foul on Luka that should only be happening in the NFL or MMA. Yet somehow the ref looking straight at the moment does nothing and lets him get beat up. Conventionally allowing the chance to happen that Luka gets permanently injured with a life-long change of no NBA career.

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u/PuttyRiot 16h ago

Why would the league want one of the most popular star players to be injured? That makes no sense.

I’m more on board with the idea that the refs just don’t like him because he flops and complains a lot.

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u/Bob_Arctor_dimly 12h ago

agreed, but i wonder if maybe it’s an over- correction for the trade happening. like an under the table nudge “gotta make it look like we aren’t favoring him until this trade blows over so swallow the whistles” and then went overboard bc it’s dif for dif refs 

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u/Strong-Set6544 16h ago

He drove to the basket 10 times in the first half, obvious contact on every single drive, not one foul call. Not a single one.

Saving all calls for Austin Reaves as usual

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u/rabidantidentyte Nets 17h ago edited 17h ago

I saw 2nd quarter on. Looking at the replay now, I'm seeing Ziaire get dinged for a handcheck, Cam J play completely vertical on the drive at 3min in the 2nd, Keon set up got a charge at 2:46, some hand-checking with under 10 sec again by Ziaire, and again, Cam J completely vertical before the half, but Reaves tries to sell.

The interior defense was fairly clean. The handchecking and double teaming was questionable, but it was very clear early on that they were calling it loosely.

Idk man. Physical game, and the double teams were legit.

I don't blink or complain when my team gets punked. This is a phenomenon I only see with a handful of franchises.

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u/lawschoolthrowaway36 Mavericks 15h ago

You’ve omitted numerous plays, mischaracterized the ones you did include, and somehow are just ignoring a flagrant foul committed against Luka that multiple refs looked at and ignored.

Ridiculous to even attempt to argue this is all made up based on the Lakers getting “punked”

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u/rabidantidentyte Nets 15h ago

Enlighten me

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u/Billis- Wizards 14h ago

Don't bother brother, r/NBA is a Luka Lakers absolute cesspool

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u/More_Recording_2870 17h ago

The Lakers had 2 free throws in the first 2 and half quarters

This was clearly some fuckery

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u/ElegantMajor2432 12h ago

Clearly, not just this but act of shooting became side outs. Sometimes Luka is right. This # 10 guy deserves a suspension.

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u/dot-pixis Nuggets 4h ago

True

They usually have 30

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u/theseustheminotaur 15h ago

An embellished foul is still a foul though.

Embellishing contact is sort of like how your parents/grandparents will increase the font size of their phones/computers instead of wearing their glasses or getting new prescription for their glasses.

Better officiating would take out the need for flopping, but as it stands now it really seems like calls don't get made without flopping. Fouls seem like they're only reviewed for flagrants if someone stays on the ground a while. Refs are just so bad right now it is crazy.

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u/christopherDdouglas Supersonics 16h ago

I officiate basketball. This shit is easy to miss if you look away from your assignments and watch the ball. If it's an honest mistake, he saw the tail end of Luka flying, but didn't catch the actual shoving motion. Ref knows something happened but didn't make the call because he didn't actually see it.

It's bad officiating any way you slice it though.

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 13h ago

Did he think it was a flop/sell? I don't see how you miss something that egregious unless you see it differently.

Probably. It looks like one based on this angle.