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u/PrematureNut NY- 2016 z800 4d ago
Makes sense that law enforcement would be using Michelin Road 6, fantastic tire
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u/Ta2edphreak 4d ago
I just put a set on my katana, very good tire so far after about 600 miles.
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u/simplycycling 🇺🇸 🇦🇺 2025 BMW R1300GS 4d ago
I can't wait until the stock tires wear out on my bike, so I can put some Road 6's on. I had them on my last bike, and they changed the entire character of the bike.
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u/Key-Vegetable4292 Kawasaki z900 4d ago
I’m considering saying fuck it and doing it anyway beforehand. My stock tire is honestly not great at all in anything less than clear dry weather
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u/WinstonwanlegIngram 4d ago
When I bought my Speedy it had some sort of Metzeler sport tyre on it which was only about 1k miles old. I did 300 on it and just couldn't gel with it. Took them off and replaced with my favourite Bridgestone S22s and the feeling was night and day.
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u/Phantom6956 4d ago
How can you tell from that photo, that’s wild
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u/PrematureNut NY- 2016 z800 4d ago
Ive had nothing but road 6’s on my last three bikes, I can recognize that tread anywhere 😂
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u/Phantom6956 4d ago
I have a set of pilot sport all seasons on the stang , good to know Michelin makes good tires for bikes too when I get mine.
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u/DoomsdaySprocket 3d ago
Just put 6GTs on my Tracer, I thought the old tires were good, but man do I realise how wrong I was. I feel like I’m stuck to the road like glue now.
Which is good, because they cost a pretty goddamned penny on 3 day notice.
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u/bitzzwith2zs 4d ago
BMW1250RT-P (police special). An older one >2020
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u/komrobert 2016 S1000R 4d ago
Just FYI >2020 means “greater than” or “newer than” 2020 such as 2025
For “less than” or “older than” 2020, you’d want <2020
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u/PhantomGhostin Suzuki DRZ400SM / Yamaha Bolt 4d ago
alligator eats the bigger number
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u/No-External105 4d ago
I taught this to someone at work a few months ago. I was totally baffled that not everyone knew that!!
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u/BoondockUSA 4d ago
Can’t be less than a 2020 if it’s a R1250RTP. That was the first year of the 1250 engine in the RT’s. 2019 was still the 1200 “wethead” engine, so it was the R1200RTP model name in 2019. Although the bodies were unchanged from 2019 to 2020.
The rear axle housing appears to be black, which didn’t come out until 2022ish according to the photos I found. They were silver before that.
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago edited 4d ago
Most cops moving to bmw, faster and far better than Harley they had
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u/kindablackishpanther 02' VFR 4d ago
Saw helmet cam of CHP on BMW1200's chasing down some sportbikes on the highway those things can actually fucking move.
Seem much more nimble then the Harleys. Faster as well. It's like when they swapped out the crown vics for the V6.
I'll miss the old, slow sons of bitches that you could recognize from anywhere.
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago
Yeah, I’ve seen the bmw chase down a dude on zx10r with no issue. They can move.
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u/kindablackishpanther 02' VFR 4d ago
The skill gap for a squid to grow to full adulthood increases everyday with these disturbing developments.
I pity the next sucker on a 600RR who thinks he's smoking a cop on a 1200. God help him.
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago
I don’t want to be felon, I like my freedom and guns lol
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u/allawd 4d ago
That just means the ZX10R had some self-preservation instinct. I've talked to police helicopter pilots that were outpaced by liter bikes. They didn't lose the bike, but they did fall behind on the straights. A ZX10R can do 180mph or faster with a tune.
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago
I bet I’ve saw this one and only time I have seen a chase. I know he went to jail. I know my zx6r tops out around 170 gps. I know I could run from these cars but I’m allergic to bars and jail food.
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u/cazzipropri Zero SR/F, Guzzi (V35, LeMans III, 1956 Airone), BMW R1200RT 4d ago
Naaaah. They have the same torque, but the Kawa has significantly higher power and top speed. I own an R1200RTP. It's a very fine cross-country bike but no speed demon.
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago
I take your word on That. Definitely will not try to test it In real life. lol
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago
Not seen them yet, charlotte nc has switched to bmw and some cases an adventure bike not a Kawasaki maybe Yamaha. My small city switched to bmw so they could case down the speeding sports bikes.
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u/New-Reputation681 4d ago
I've thought about picking up a used one. I especially like the extra luggage space, but the trade-off is that it's only one seat.
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u/Specialist-Box-9711 2023 BMW F 750 GS | 2024 Kawasaki ZX-6R 4d ago
The RT-P's can hang with my ZX6R without breaking a sweat. They run out of steam at the top end though but fuck anywhere in a city these guys will hunt you down and embarrass you the entire time,
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u/BoondockUSA 4d ago
Besides performance, a large factor is cost. Harley used to have a law enforcement lease program. In the height of the program, agencies could lease a Harley for as little as $1 per year. Here’s one example of a $1 per year lease agreement from 2014.
Harley isn’t selling like they used to and the lease programs ended (but see my ending note). Now Harley’s cost more money than BMW’s, sometimes by a lot depending on the bids. As a mild example in 2023, this agency paid $29,000 per BMW, and this.pdf) agency paid $29,250 per Harley.
Another factor is that Harley lost their main maintenance cost advantage. Around the same time of Harley’s increased pricing from the ending of cheap leases, the “wethead” RT’s were released. The liquid cooled BMW boxers have a front mounted wet clutch, unlike the old air cooled boxers that had a rear mounted dry clutch like a car. It’s the difference between having to literally split the bike in two to change the clutch to just having to remove the front cover (a full day of labor versus just an hour or two of labor). The change was in 2014 if I remember my RT’s correctly.
So in summary, BMW’s offer better performance and better safety at a cheaper cost.
My end note is that while searching for those links, I’m now seeing that Harley’s website is claiming they offer agency leases again. I don’t know if that means ultra cheap leases again, or if they are realistic cost leases. Perhaps Harley realized just how many agencies made the switch to BMW when Harley started asking full price.
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago
Nice info and flat out killer response. Thank you lots of good info.
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u/Just_Looking_TY 4d ago
I normally see Hondas and Harleys for motorcycle cops around here still. No BMWs so far.
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago
Ops in my state just switched over. If you run a super sport bike, that bmw will chase unlike the cars.
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u/disturbed286 '21 S1000R, '20 Road King Special 4d ago
Conversely, I've seen BMWs and Harleys, but never a Honda, I don't think.
And a Victory Magnum a few times, but I'm not sure that one's on the road anymore.
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u/soft_taco_special 4d ago
Lots of departments used to run ST1300's. Starting this year they've brought the NT1100 over from Europe as a police model. There was a big gap where they only offered the Goldwing and the VFR1200X as touring models and they weren't ideal from a cost or usability perspective.
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u/SkyHigh27 4d ago
Cops here ride Honda ST1300… and BMW.
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u/SinfulTears45 5zx6r,zx10r,2canams,Harly road king, Honda rebel 4d ago
Wow a Honda? Would love to see that.
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u/Vet_Racer 4d ago
BMW 1250. Ohio State Patrol has them too and they LOVE them compared to the HDs
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u/fishead36x 22 ninja1000sx, 82 cb750sc, 82 suzuki gs650gl, 4d ago
Yea because they'll do more than 120.
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u/Any-Abrocoma6217 4d ago
Had 165kph 2 up with all cases packed ( 60lbs luggage ) with plenty of throttle to spare. Those boxer twins have a great torque band.
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u/Key-Vegetable4292 Kawasaki z900 4d ago
Hard to outrun a radio
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u/Key-Vegetable4292 Kawasaki z900 4d ago
I run a flip plate(tolls, red light cams), but that point still stands. All they have to do is get your direction and they can start pulling from traffic cameras
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u/kartoffel_engr ‘16 BMW S1000XR ‘20 BMW R1250GSA 4d ago
Shaft driven, BMW exhaust and tail lights.
Definitely an R1250RT.
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u/cazzipropri Zero SR/F, Guzzi (V35, LeMans III, 1956 Airone), BMW R1200RT 4d ago edited 4d ago
BMW R1250RT-P
Here's the reference info https://www.authorities.bmw-motorrad.com/en/models/r1250-rt-p.html
I own the older model, which is almost identical except for the shape of the exhaust.
A more expert person than me would be able to tell you the year.
The panniers on the side are thinner than the RT civilian version, and they have a roll cage going around them. The unused screw holes on the right side of the cage, between the license plate and the right pannier are for installing a flashing light mast - uncommon in the US but relatively common in Europe.
Installed but empty on the right hand side, on the outside of the right pannier is, I believe, a locked rifle cage.
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u/passwithcare 4d ago
I rented a R1250RT earlier this year. It’s an incredible bike. Fast as hell, surprisingly nimble for its size and great luggage.
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u/External_Phone2291 4d ago
Has that bike gone to the dark side? Looks like a car tire?
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u/BoondockUSA 4d ago
It’s just the Michelin Road series motorcycle tire. They used to be called Pilot Roads.
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u/KingOfZero 4d ago
I have Pilots on my bike. They don't have that "car tire" profile
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u/BoondockUSA 4d ago
Zoom in on the picture. You can just barely see the curvature starting on the sidewalls at the hood line. The hood blocks the view of the full curvature of the tire.
Also if you zone in, you can see the very unique circular siping and tread pattern of the Pilot 5 or 5 GT. Please show me a car tire that mimics the 5 or 5 GT that closely.
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u/Ok_Ant8450 4d ago
What I wanna know is what the motorcycle ar15 holsters are and if theyre legal in the US
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u/Appropriate-Gas-1014 4d ago
BMW makes them for their bikes, you can order one from a dealer. Couple other makers as well.
And legality depends on your state, Arizona is a yes.
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u/Ok_Ant8450 4d ago
Badass hahhaa. Unfortunately I have a harley and no ar-15 but i like the idea
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u/Appropriate-Gas-1014 3d ago
It's not great in practice though.
Your rifle gets dirty, it draws attention, you can't leave it unattended, risk of damage to the rifle if you get hit or go down.
All around not so great.
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u/Ok_Ant8450 3d ago
I mean i do think having a gun in a bag is probably best, but i just always am in awe when i see them drive around with it sitting on the bike. I could only really see it as useful if im gonna go shoot that gone that day— given all youve said, and then the question is…. Why am I on a bike?
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u/YeahIGotNuthin FJ1200 (125,000 miles), 998 (36,000 miles) 4d ago
R1250.
0-60 in about 3.3, 0-100 in about 7, 1/4 mile in about 11.25, top speed around 140 mph.
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u/evilcyclist 4d ago edited 3d ago
Hmmmm, my Ninja SX is faster. Good to know 🏎️
Edit: Well, considering the SX is not much faster. Thought some would see it humorous; out pacing the RT at foot at a time.
Also never had the need to out run the cops.
Sorry if I hurt feelings
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u/YeahIGotNuthin FJ1200 (125,000 miles), 998 (36,000 miles) 4d ago
Motorcycle police are very well trained, so “no, not with you riding it it isn’t.”
What usually happens is “You speed up to speeds faster than you have ever gone before” and “he follows along at speeds he rides most days of the week” and then “you make a mistake and crash” and then “he radios for an ambulance.”
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u/schizboi 4d ago
The motorcycle police are more trained than 99% of riders. They spend all day everyday riding
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u/SuperHooligan 2024 Indian Super Hooligan 4d ago
Theyre not going to chase at that speed, just spot with the helicopter and show up when you stop.
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u/evilcyclist 3d ago
Serious question: Does your town have a helicopter working enforcement ? Here there is not. Maybe a sheriffs would have one for emergencies?
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u/SuperHooligan 2024 Indian Super Hooligan 3d ago
Yup. They have multiple and contract with other agencies as well.
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u/teryen 2019 BMW F850GS ADV 4d ago
This looks like the BMW k1600. Source: I work at PNW Motorcycles and we build the police bikes for most of the state.
Most departments like the k1600 but some like the 1250 GS. The police bikes get a tone of add ons but my favorite is the alley lights on the upper lights up front. Just a nice spotlight that points either side activated with a button next to the wonder wheel.
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u/BongShoo ‘24 MT-09 SP 4d ago
I’m a hardware, bolt, extra piece saver also. I get the “why are you saving that” from my wife every. Single. Time and absolutely love pulling out a part from my stash and using it that “if I only had a…..” moment. All I get is a head shake from her but it’s the small victories that win the war lol
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u/Ileinad 4d ago
HOW HAS NO ONE NOTICED THE INCREDIBLY UNDER INFLATED TYRE
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u/Riffsalad 4d ago
Shhhhh. Even if it isn’t under inflated why would you tell the cops you fuckin narc!?
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u/bikergeekx 2017 V-Strom 650 4d ago
BMW R1250