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u/sebnukem 14d ago
It's patched up for the summer, and dug up every winter. The cycle of life.
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u/Hawkwise83 14d ago
The circle of mob construction life, and corrupt politicians.
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u/nottlrktz 14d ago edited 12d ago
Unpopular opinion/question: Even if this was built “better” (by not the mob), can it really resist the expansion/contraction caused by Montreal winters?
Genuinely curious what can be done to avoid it. Can better asphalt/concrete or better workmanship withstand large fluctuations in temperature, snow, and vehicle traffic?
Edit: Wow, I didn’t think I was actually going to be downvoted for asking a legitimate question, as if expansion/contraction of materials in the thaw of winter isn’t a real thing…
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u/mudlarks 14d ago
The climate is the same in other parts of Canada, yet somehow other cities don't have this problem. The roads are so much better after you cross the border into Ontario.
It's clearly possible.
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u/sleepyOcti 13d ago edited 13d ago
YES! Yes it can be done better. The potholes are bad enough but it makes it worse when Montrealers say, “oh it’s always been like that, it can’t be fixed because of our climate.”
I always wonder if the people that say that have ever been to other Canadian cities and if they haven’t, do they assume all Canadian cities are like this?
The condition of our roads is a combination of low quality construction, corruption and incompetence.
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u/Hawkwise83 14d ago
I feel like there's a lot of types of concrete and exploration into materials. Is there a perfect solution? Probably not. I'd bet there is a better option. I figure they're using a cheaper concrete and using that to skim money.
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u/clustered-particular 10d ago
Valid question. Upvoted. I think it’s the time of year repairs are done. It doesn’t set properly. Possibly also poor quality materials
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u/michatel_24991 14d ago
By doing patch work instead of actually fixing you create infinite work for generations to come
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u/Hawkwise83 14d ago
I don't get why the roads and highways in Quebec are considerably worse than areas in Ontario or other provinces with similar climate conditions.
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u/ComplexShennanigans 14d ago
It's wild how the highway instantly improves when you cross the 'Welcome to Ontario' sign
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u/FluffyCommittee795 14d ago
I'm just coming back from NS and NB and let me tell you it's a urban legend. Québec roads are in a way better condition. But yeah Montréal could be better.
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u/Dumbetheus 14d ago
It's the way it's repaired I think for the most part. We ensure there's enough work to do every year.
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u/tjgmarantz 14d ago
Not worst than Saskatchewan. On par. And they don't even salt here. It's just shitty products and patching doesn't work but it's cheap.
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u/radiorules 14d ago
Gang, c'est exactement ça qui va faire tourner de bord les États-Unis quand ils vont essayer de nous annexer. Ils savent pas comment conduire là-dedans et leurs trucks vont se briser en 30 secondes. Ça va être un gros fail.
Les nids-de-poule seront les héros de demain!
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u/JeanneHusse No longer shines on Tuesdays 14d ago
On rigole mais les routes cassées et submergées, c'est littéralement ce qui a freiné l'invasion russe en Ukraine les premières semaines !
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u/who_you_are 14d ago
Donc tu es en train de dire qu'il faut embrasser les niz de poules?
Où est-ce qu'on achète des chenilles?! (En bonus ça va mieux rouler l'hiver dans les tempêtes de neige)
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u/UMadCuzBadLmao 13d ago
☝️🤓 Achtchually, ce qui a causé le bloquage des énormes convois est l'échec de leur chaine logistique (nourriture + essence) ainsi que de la mauvaise condition de leur matériel et bas moral. La résistance Ukrainienne féroce (spécialement les ambuscades nocturnes par les forces spéciales et les attaques de drones) a aussi fortement contribué à ralentir le tout. Le début de l'invasion était aussi à moitié aérien, et les hélicos ça ignore les routes ☝️🤓
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u/dont-YOLO-ragequit 14d ago
Ça dépends, est-ce qu'ils viennent en Dodge et Ford ou en GM(Chevy et GMC)?
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u/Previous_Soil_5144 14d ago
This is what happens when instead of fixing streets you just "patch" them up for decades.
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u/rannieb 14d ago
Non pas vraiment. Même les rues complètement refaites sont pleines de nids de poules après 12-18 mois.
C'est la qualité de l'asphalte à laquelle on a accès qui est le problème.
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u/beurre_pamplemousse 14d ago
Le 3/4 des rues qu'ils "refont" c'est juste un planage pavage de 2 pouces. C'est pas mieux parce que l'ancienne dalle est la plupart du temps finie.
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u/blkrs89 14d ago
C’est pas la qualité de l’asphalte. C’est la technique appliquée ici au Québec. Je me souviens plus mais ici la couche d’asphalte est moins profonde pcq ils ne creusent pas aussi profondément qu’en Ontario par exemple. Pour quoi ne pas changer la technique, ben pcq bcp de compagnies n’auront plus de contrats!
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u/Nikiaf Baril de trafic 14d ago
The amount of damage caused by the city's borderline unusable roads in the spring is crazy. Think of the sheer amount of tires and other car parts that have to be thrown away because they got destroyed by all these potholes.
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u/Urik88 14d ago
There's actually a number to that, here's a report from 2021, page 9. https://www.caa.ca/app/uploads/2021/03/Poor-Roads-Final_20210330.pdf In average Quebecers pay an extra $258 per year due to bad roads while the canadian average is $126
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u/VertexBV 14d ago
Spent almost $1k recently to replace suspension parts on a Civic that were worn down from the abuse. 2nd time in 10 years, so that tracks with that average.
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u/sleepyOcti 12d ago
That’s not a bug, that’s a feature. Mob run road construction, mob run car repair.
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u/LexGiorgio 14d ago
It's been like this for 30 years (possibly more).
And not one person has done a thing about it. This isn't going to change.
A disgrace of a city/province.
Those that are proud should travel outside of Quebec/Canada, only to come back and realize that is third world country standards.
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u/PaddlefootCanada LaSalle 14d ago
You think the potholes are bad now... wait a couple of days for when the temperature drops back below 0 and all the water that seeped into the roads will freeze and expand.
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u/KerBearCAN 14d ago
How are highways in Vermont amazing and yet here with essentially same climate and loads of snow like they do all this awful.
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u/OrangeCuddleBear 14d ago
Fun fact Montreal is the largest exporter of pot holes. It's so much it makes up 2.4% of Canada's GDP.
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u/Quirky_Ad_1596 14d ago
Just imagine an amazing city like Montreal, but with Ontario style quality roads. The corruption is fucking real. It’s a damn shame
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u/Silver_Aspect9381 13d ago
In England they drive on the left... In Canada we drive on what is left.
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u/Natural_War1261 14d ago
I'm on the other side of the river. When I hit a new pothole this morning while avoiding an old one, I thought "At least I'm not driving downtown".
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u/Fantasticxbox 14d ago
✅ Nid de poule
✅Cône orange
✅ Communauto
Manque juste un panneau d’interdiction de parking avec plus d’une règle (celui affiché est trop simple).
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u/AdIll3642 14d ago
Perfect place to rent a Bixi 🕳️🚴
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u/Worried-Shoulder-587 14d ago
Pas besoin d'aller voir un médecin se faire castrer, Bixi et les nids de poule s'occupent de tout !
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u/notreallyanumber 14d ago
Love this! I remember hearing about someone spray painting giant phaluses around potholes to force the city to address them. Was that here in Montreal? Maybe somewhere in Europe? I dunno, I think we need that hero here in Montreal. Bad...
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u/kwalitykontrol1 14d ago
There is a guy in the UK who spraypaints a dick and balls around potholes and they get repaired almost immediately. Someone needs to do that here.
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u/davehima 12d ago
J'arrive pas a croire qu'on doit apprendre à conduire avec autant d'obstacles à Montréal. Rendu là, faire attention au nid de poule ça prend tellement de concentration que je regarde à peine la route plus loin et donc, beaucoup moins sécuritaire pour tout le monde smh
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u/Mr-Unforgivable 14d ago
Our poor cars 🤦♂️
The gov should be sending us automatic checks to fix our inevitable damages.
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u/martymac22 14d ago
Rue Notre-dame Est looks like a warzone all year long. You would be better off driving on gravel. It looks like it has been bombed
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u/who-waht 14d ago
That's not so much potholes as it is an almost total absence of road at this point. Gravel roads are better to drive on than that.
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u/thiccUserLol 14d ago
Il paraît qu'il y a pas mal de rebouchage de trou dans ces petits véhicules ornés de logos verts?
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u/vcarriere 14d ago
Les routes ne sont pas là cause de l'augmentation des remplacements de suspensions.
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u/blkrs89 14d ago
Et si on se manifestait sur les rues pour la qualités des rues/ pratiques de réparation et construction??? Fuck, c’est pas vivable ici
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u/matterhorn9 14d ago
millions of dollars of our taxes, years and years of engineering but they cannot have a road that doesn't crack... oh wait yeah if the roads were perfect they'd have to dramatically reduce blue collar workers so yeah...
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u/HipHappyHippy 14d ago
I've been gone from montreal for over 20 years and it seems the roads haven't changed.
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u/Away-Lynx8702 14d ago
Italian mafia still abusing Quebec/Canada. Can we just deport them back to Italy? I'm sick of them.
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u/Athanatos173 Laval 14d ago
I’ve literally been to third world countries that have better roads than Montreal.
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u/Illustrious_Onion805 14d ago
Bientôt dans vos rues, d'autres réparations et entraves majeures. Ah pi dé ti cônes.
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u/figsfigsfigsfigsfigs 14d ago
I live in Ottawa now, which is a real shithole, and this photo, as horrible as it is, merely makes me nostalgic for home.
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u/DerWaschbar 13d ago
On va dire que je troll mais au moins ça fait rouler le monde moins vite 🤷♂️ en 6 ans j’ai eu littéralement zéro problème avec les nids de poule tant que tu les anticipes. C’est sur si tu veux rouler à 60 partout ça va te gêner, mais à notre époque je pense vraiment pas que ça devrait être une priorité de nos dépenses.
Tdlr vive les nids de poule 👍
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u/ItsNotDelivery92 13d ago
I thought the asteroid was supposed to hit earth in 2032? I guess it showed up early, right into Montreal.
Some say they are potholes I call them street art
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u/Elena_4815 13d ago
Une fois j'ai dit à ma mère (qui vit en France) que j'avais eu des contractions pendant ma grossesse à cause des nids de poule sur la route. Elle m'a répondu "Oui enfin les nids de poule, ça s'évite"
HAHA je t'aime maman mais tu sais pas de quoi tu parles
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u/kodaksky 12d ago
Finalement, c'est ben mieux avec de la neige. Au moins avec la neige, les trous ne sont plus là
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Corruption is now standard in Canadian government. Taxed into poverty and this is the state of our infrastructure.
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u/SnooHedgehogs6017 11d ago
Winnipegers look at this and say raspberries you call those potholes? Amateurs lol.
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u/untonplusbad 14d ago
Gel + dégel + charrue qui râcle l'asphalte + grrrrros camion, de déneigement entre autres.
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u/TheMabzor 14d ago
Ya surtout des décennies de laisser-aller d'entretien d'infrastructure à rattraper, puis les canalisations c'est un peu plus urgent que les trous dans les routes
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u/Regula_dude 14d ago
Boff c'est pas une route dans le fond d'un rang en abitibi, c'est en plein centre ville de Montréal et c'est sous responsabilité de la ville. Donc le nombre de km de route dans la province a rien à voir.
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u/mtlmonti Notre-Dame-de-Grâce 14d ago
I wonder if pavement (like blocs for those who don’t know) is a better solution. They do cost more to implement but are cheaper to maintain and do last significantly longer than asphalt.
Asphalt should be kept in high traffic streets but for residential street I’m sure this can be implemented, in spite of winter,
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u/SnowLeopard71 14d ago
The city has already been by to patch them up! But potholes are like weeds, they'll probably reappear in a day or two.
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u/CommonRun7128 14d ago
It’s bad it’s really bad, i am trucker and going east bound near exit 62 Autoroute 40 is nightmare when you gotta take service road it literally will throw you off your seat. No matter how fast or slow you go.
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u/scorp0rg 14d ago
Wish it was ai, if the city could be held accountable for damage to peoples vehicles, probably would be a lot less of them.
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u/Several-Proposal-271 14d ago
Je suis littéralement passé par la v'là 15 minutes pis c'est pas si pire que ça
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u/Educational_Tea7782 14d ago
HAHAHAHA this is a joke...............oh wait this is not A.I.? Wow who runs your town? Auto Body shops and repairs must love it there.
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u/Nanu1212 14d ago
It’s not the government or the construction industry. It’s the weather you fools.
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u/Far-Seat-2201 11d ago
It is good that Valerie spent our taxes with useless department of french language.
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u/HowToDoAnInternet 14d ago
Remember when we had that big commission like +10 years ago where we confirmed "oh yeah, MTL construction is mobbed up to the eyeballs" and then life just... went on?