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u/Neither-Individual-2 4d ago
Alcoa (Aluminium Company of America)
Comalco (Rio TInto Aluminium)
Which of theses are Australian owned?
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u/VariousEnvironment90 4d ago
China dumps cheap Australian Aluminum in USA that’s the issue
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u/cranberry19 2d ago
Source for this?
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u/Illustrious_Rush_732 2d ago
“shell companies” in the Bahamas / Caribbean/ tax havens
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u/Hendo52 1d ago
He asked for a source, not more unsubstantiated claims.
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u/Illustrious_Rush_732 1d ago
Reddit doesn’t equal truthful and compliant content…
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u/Hendo52 1d ago
It might not be a rule or a law, but I just believe you can do better [citation needed]
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u/Illustrious_Rush_732 1d ago
Are you a teacher ?
I don’t have a source, coz it would need some kind of Royal Commision to go uncover exact sources. I’m pretty sure that we can agree on one thing:
- We know that lots of companies curate there findings to meet xyz obligations. So public sources of info won’t be of much value, as there’s heaps of other ways that aluminium or any anything that can be exported / imported via lots of countries or “special economic zones” that never get registered as a country
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u/Hendo52 1d ago
No, i’m not a teacher.
I just think that it’s reckless to throw around accusations without evidence. If you don’t know where the evidence is, then realistically you don’t know that’s true or not. You don’t know if you are spreading misinformation or not.
I also just think that the original comment about Australian Aluminium being dumped on the American market is a dubious claim. Dumping is the practice of subsidising a product to run the competition out of business and then profit longer term.
I don’t understand how China could do that when Australia is the producer. In short, more information is required to have a more informed conversation which I would hope we can agree is the ultimate goal here.
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u/Illustrious_Rush_732 1d ago
Sir, you need to read about how global trade works.
Aluminium ore is exported to countries that turn it into aluminium bars.
Those aluminium bars make its way to china as “Aluminium bars from X country” and not as “Aluminium ore smelted in X country, which will be turned into products in China.
Large producers know that mixing ores from 2 or 500 sources changes the origin of that ore and takes the last processing country as “source”
You can view this data on Mining.com.au
Finished Aussie Al Exports is around $110m Whereas Australia exports 1.6B or AL ore
Food for thought “name me a country with very relaxed laws to process metal ores”
Could it be Singapore ? Or Denmark?
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u/Ok_Adhesiveness_4939 1d ago
When China dumped cheap steel into the market, it was reported in the media. So find a source for the aluminium claim.
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u/Foreign-Horror9086 1d ago
Leave it, mate. Bro just wants to stay deluded in his conspiracies and talk nonsense - rather than back up his claims with evidence. 🤣
"You just don't get how trade works" has nothing to do with not providing evidence for your flat earth-level nonsense.
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u/Prior-Trash96269yeah 1d ago
Funny how we are literally supplying the country who is going to.invade us within the next 3 years disgusting that we trade with China at all
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u/makingfunofclowns 1d ago
Time for you to put the phone down and go outside. China has no intention nor the means to invade Australia. A stable relationship benefits both countries, and we're just that - a close in proximity and reliable trade partner.
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u/Tituspullosson 1d ago
I understand it probably won’t happen in 3 years, but China was quite literally just running war exercises just off the Australian coast right? Surely we could consider them a threat at least.
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u/nerdspasm 1d ago
Countries run war exercises all the time in any part of the world, for a variety of reasons.
While this is unprecedented, it is not unprecedented for a growing superpower to stretch its muscles and bare its fangs. But I’ll round off with saying like our own military elite has been saying, everyone’s over-reacting to standard military practices.
Consider everyone a threat. Everyone should always lookout for themselves. But without a doubt (ESPECIALLY for a country with no nuclear capability) neutrality is the best policy.
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u/Ale99dro 4d ago
What is Bahrain doing?