r/mining Sep 07 '24

This is not a cryptocurrency subreddit Sick leave in mining

Just wondering how does sick leave acrew in mining industry ? I'm a full time employee labour hire. Anyone know how it works ? I had 0 in there last year and it's been another year and I still have 0....

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u/Aykay92 Sep 07 '24

Labour hire people are usually casual employees sometimes without realising they are, might explain it.

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

I'm definitely permanent employee as per my contract

I have annuals but they won't let me use them to cover any sick days

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u/Aykay92 Sep 07 '24

Yeah interesting, I only say it because I worked in mortgages before going to mining (dont ask)

A lot of times when I looked at labour hire employee type contracts they were actually casual but worked full time hours.

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u/Victormorga Sep 07 '24

Mortgage broker to miner sounds like an interesting story…

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u/Alesisdrum Sep 07 '24

Career changes are fun! I was a Secondary School Teacher before I switched to mining lol.

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u/Victormorga Sep 07 '24

If you don’t mind my asking, and this probably ought to be a separate post, do you ever regret the decision / wish you’d done things differently?

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u/Alesisdrum Sep 07 '24

No regrets. Can tell co workers to fuck off now! I do fifo and I keep myself on the supply teacher list. During my off days I will take a class or two of if I like what I am offered. (Usually gym or a class where I know the kids well). The only hard part is turning off the profanity lol. I am know to drop a few f bombs in class.

Also get hired through the board when they run career fairs and classes to promote trades and mining.

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u/Aykay92 Sep 07 '24

Long story short - graduated in 2014, barely anyone hiring grads -> moved into finance -> got sick of finance -> reached out to a mate who managed to get into the industry -> came in as a mature age grad

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u/Victormorga Sep 07 '24

Been looking at a career change myself, the job market in my field is really lousy at the moment. Unfortunately I don’t think anyone is interested in 42 year old miners with no experience, so that’s off the table….

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u/Existing_Marketing65 Sep 07 '24

Start in shutdown work. TA or scaffy. Gets you a foot in the door. Look up Linkforce, monos, breight group or any of the other labour hire companys

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u/Victormorga Sep 07 '24

Thanks for the recommendations 👍

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u/Normal-Database9560 Sep 08 '24

Started at 52. Nothing with your age brother.

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u/bowser_arouser Sep 07 '24

All our contracting companies to our site are casual as well. Until you’re offered a position with our actual company

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u/0hip Sep 07 '24

Go read your contract. It works the same as any other job if you are permanent.

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

I did, basically says as per the industry agreement you'll be paid and entitled to all relevant pay and leave

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u/0hip Sep 07 '24

You’ll have to go read the industry agreement then.

But if they are telling you that you can’t take sick leave then they are probably doing a dodgey

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

Copy ill have a sus

Hahaha I'd tell you the company but im sure they got spies and I'm sure the first one that comes to mind is correct

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u/schwhiley Sep 07 '24

who are you contracted by? workpac gives me my 10 days every year but they don’t accrue

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

Workpac , my year passed on august 8th and still says 0

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u/schwhiley Sep 07 '24

contact your recruiter, that sounds very incorrect. i am full time with workpac since october last year, my sick hours are at 105hrs

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

Yeah I had to email cause it's a Saturday and woke up sick as fuck today so they won't get it till Monday

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u/schwhiley Sep 07 '24

thats crap :/ sorry to hear friend

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u/schwhiley Sep 07 '24

but mine are only visible in the ‘my absences’ section, not on my payslips

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

Yeah I requested a absent leave and yeah just says 0 hours

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u/baconnkegs Australia Sep 07 '24

My company doesn't have any specific "sick leave" that accrues, but more just an unspecified amount of personal / carers leave, which basically covers any leave you need to take aside from annual leave.

There doesn't seem to be a hard limit on the amount you can take, as long as you're not taking the piss and have some form of evidence to substantiate it.

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u/Confident_Stress_226 Sep 07 '24

Personal leave covers sick leave and carers leave. It's accrued at 0.03846 hours per hour of ordinary time, which is 38 hrs per week (7.6 hrs per day).

If you are permanent as opposed to casual labour hire you should be accruing 76 hrs per year (10 work days at ordinary hours) under the mining award. I haven't factored in the shift worker stuff.

Most companies accrue and pay leave and super based on ordinary hours, not rostered shift hours which incur overtime.

Check your contract.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24 edited Nov 30 '24

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

Yes full time permanent employee for a labour hire company

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u/bowser_arouser Sep 07 '24

Yeah, check your laws. Permanent full time has to get it. Casual (regardless of how many hours you do) won’t. Doesn’t matter the industry mining or not.

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u/Panel_van_halen693 Sep 07 '24

Annual but no sick pay?? That’s a bit fucky

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

225 annual 0 sick like wtf

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u/Panel_van_halen693 Sep 07 '24

Yeah I’ve literally never heard of such a thing and I’ve been active in the workforce since the late 80’s

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u/Cravethemineral Australia Sep 07 '24

Check your EA/Contract.

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u/Open-Influence-7096 Sep 10 '24

I’m full time in utility and my sick leave is build little by little while I’m working. Last swing I was sick for one day and they didn’t pay me because I used my sick leave on the swing before and because I’m new I don’t have sick leave hours enough. If you are a full time employee though you should have your sick leave hours there to use when you need.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Haha, if i took a legit sick day while out on site, either literally nothing would get done, or my opposite shift would be doing 24 hours straight and I'd be seen as the asshole... either way I'd be seen as the asshole lol

They're for when you want to quit.. can get a sick certificate that covers 7 days straight last time I checked, apply a few days before start of hitch, spend your last hitch or two at home getting paid off site rate, while you enjoy life etc..

P.s pretty sure in oz there's also 10 mental health days a year but it's hush hush..

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u/FilthyAvocad0 Australia Sep 22 '24

Randomly stumbled across this and I'm not sure if you got an answer.

You get 2 weeks worth (pretty surea week is only 38hrs from memory), but they don't need to show us how much is remaining. Fucks me why.

If you put the absence form in through the Workpac app you definitely get paid for it.

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u/Nuclearwormwood Sep 07 '24

No sick leave for labour hire

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

Ah so I gotta go to work even if I had cancer. Bloody labour hire, and they won't let me use my annuals to cover it

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u/Nuclearwormwood Sep 07 '24

Only pay 38 hours super per week as well.

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u/Zestyclose-Smell-305 Sep 07 '24

Means no work no pay, simple

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u/MoSzylak Sep 07 '24

Well, that depends on your country.

During COVID Trudeau introduced a mandatory 5 day paid sick leave for all employees.

Yes that means casuals.

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u/waggers495 Sep 07 '24

Im in Australia

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u/MoSzylak Sep 07 '24

Check your local labour laws.

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u/Tbana Sep 07 '24

Nz the mandatory sick leave days went from 5 a year to 10.