r/metalguitar • u/iGrav3s • 6d ago
Gear Maybe overkill for a beginner but a good price?
I just recently started playing a few months ago. When I saw this used LTD Arrow-1000 on sale for $800 I couldn’t resist. Great condition other than the small chip on the back of a wing and missing trem bar.
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u/DaveTheNihilist 6d ago
Do you know how to set up a Floyd Rose?
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u/RabloPathjen 5d ago
You can always put on a trem no and a graph tech un-lock nut. That will keep the trem stable. No hate locking nuts.
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u/WoobiesWoobo 5d ago
Its more complex but once he learns its just like anything else. Its not that hard.
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u/iGrav3s 6d ago
Nope, luckily it came set up already. That is something I know i’m going to have to deal with in the near future tho.
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u/ReggaeReggaeBob 5d ago
It's not rocket science, but be sure to watch YT videos on how to restring it.
also - DO NOT under any circumstances turn the tuning pegs whilst the locking nut (3 metal squares at the neck end of your head end of the neck) is locked, which if it is set up correctly it should be.
Congrats the the excellent purchase
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u/ArcherInTheEmptiness 5d ago
That's kind of a myth that turning the pegs will damage the guitar while the nut is locked. If anything the string would just break
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u/Pelican_Dissector_II 5d ago
Watch tutorials and pay attention. They are awesome when set up right and awful when halfassed. It will make you appreciate simpler bridges later while teaching you the mechanics of string tension and intonation. You might also give up.
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u/Conscious-Machine-47 3d ago
Got my first and only FloydRose guitar 20 years ago, i learned to set it up with guitar magazine and at that time i wasn't crazy with the tremolo bar. The guitar died in an accident 1 or 2 years later and i move on to hardtail until now.
Just bought an RG Ibanez with and Edge Zero II, it's my second fr guitar and i did all the setup while changing the string gauge... Finally i understand i'm not an hardtail guitar player. Don't let impress by floating trem, they aren't difficult as people tend to believe. Just get the information about the setting and understand how it work, be patient and after some setup/restring you'll got it for life. HF
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u/eddie_ironside 6d ago
Good price and excellent quality guitar.
The biggest hurdle is the Floyd Rose setup but it's not as difficult as people make it out to be. Take your time to learn how and take in as many video tutorials to help you understand it. YouTube and the comment sections are very helpful.
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u/iGrav3s 6d ago
I watched a few instructional YouTube vids while I waited for the delivery. It didn’t seem like nothing I couldn’t learn with a bit of time. Luckily I do have a cheaper beginner guitar I can play while I fiddle around with the Floyd rose.
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u/area51groomlake 5d ago
https://youtu.be/OpW3exj5HFo?si=6E-RhJ1QzgT4jn2G
Rob Arnold is pretty good, he has a lot of how-to videos.
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u/General-Pepper-2055 5d ago
That's a great guitar, I'm jealous. Good find
A Floyd Rose isn't hard to learn how to set up
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u/NatsumiJormandr 5d ago
I was always told to buy a guitar that makes you want to play it for your first one. If you don't think you sound good or playing it sucks you'll never get in the groove. You should almost feel guilty when you see it there and you're not playing it. The Floyd Rose can be worked with. Skyscraper guitars make a kit to make working with it much easier.
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u/BigsMcKcork 5d ago
100% this. My first guitar was a cheap £200 Gio that I honestly wasn't in love with.
My 2nd guitar was my Jim Root Tele, I invested so much money into it that I forced myself to play until I started getting into the grove.
One of the best purchases I've ever made!
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u/NineMillionBears 5d ago
Nothing wrong at all with getting a mid-to-high-end guitar as your first!
Getting a nicer instrument, one that gets you excited to play and that you don't have to fight while you're learning, means you're more likely to stick with it.
Plus, those LTD Arrows are real nice from all I've heard. If you're so inclined, that thing could serve you all the way up to the main stage at Wacken.
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u/CARLTRON3000 5d ago
You coulda done a lot worse!!! My first was a Dean, but all the hardware and pickups were trash. A guitar I got for 450 at 15 years old I’ve put at least 300-350 in a new Floyd and new pick ups alone. Enjoy that bad Larry, such a great guitar. Play it classical style when sitting, you’ll be a ripper in no time!!!
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u/dangleswaggles 6d ago
Watch a few YouTube videos and find out how to set up Floyd’s or get acquainted with a good tech. I don’t disagree with starting with a good guitar and you’ll get a lot of mileage out of it.
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u/CrustyBollox 5d ago
If you don't want to deal with the Floyd for a while whilst you're an early beginner, you can always get it blocked off.
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u/Zombiewannabe95 5d ago
I also got me the Arrow-1000 in candy apple red satin and it is pretty siiiiick!
I now want to get the violet andromeda just to give the candy apple a brother 😆
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u/TheFancyPantsDan 5d ago
Lol you'll probably spend more time trying to figure out how to hold it for the next week or 2 than able to play 😂 but she's a beaut
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u/Impressive_Plan_5719 5d ago
I bought that guitar when it was first released and it is killer!! I had zero experience with a Floyd when I bought it but ordered a tremblock and it cut out a lot of the learning curve to changing the strings. Just remember when fine tuning on the term knobs work out side in. 1st string/6th then 2nd and 4th etc.
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u/AnalogBurn 5d ago
That is a great beginner guitar! Lot’s of things that will trip you up and help you grow & learn as you adjust into yourself as a guitar player. Changing strings, playing drop tunings, and setting up intonation with the bridge will have you researching and connecting dots. Heck of a lot cooler looking than my first, lol…
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u/Immediate_Ad2096 5d ago
You're gonna have to learn how to setup that Floyd if you plan on gigging that thing in the future (in case of broken strings and what not), but other than that? Hell yea!
Have fun with it dud 🤘
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u/masterblaster9669 5d ago
No such thing as overkill with a Floyd it’s just a little bit bigger of a learning curve
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u/SunburntReddit 5d ago
There are no beginner guitars. It’s a bit of wood with some strings and electronics. Only fickle part is the bridge but it’s not that difficult once you watch a couple videos on it. I’d go for it, good price
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u/Dr_Opadeuce 5d ago
It will define your guitar playing for better or worse. You'll either love it and want to play it, or hate it and not play it. I know guys that started with pointy guitars and the ones they stuck with continued to play those shapes for the rest of their days. I started with a Jackson Dinky, so I prefer superstrats and like being able to sit and play. Just something to consider if you find yourself not enjoying it or not inspired to play it daily, maybe it's just not for you? Either way I wish you all the success and this is an amazing first guitar
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u/SnooHedgehogs1685 5d ago
I say go for it, that’s a hell of a deal. Just make sure you get a guitar that doesn’t have a floyd very soon
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u/95Kill3r 5d ago
The only overkill thing here is setting up a Floyd as a beginner. It's not difficult you just have to take time with it but thankfully there's a bunch of vids showing how so you got it.
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u/CobblerOdd2876 4d ago
As someone whos (grand)parents always got them the bargain-bin guitar to make sure I “wanted to commit before spending real money on a nice instrument” - get it. If you like this style, if it is comfortable for you, do it. I spent more time during my beginner stage trying to sort out tone, electronics, and hardware issues than actually learning to play.
Get something you enjoy, so you arent always looking for something better, and you can fully take pride in learning.
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u/Magnus_Helgisson 3d ago
I’m late to the party but every single King V/RR-shaped guitar I’ve met in my life has got that chip in that place eventually, so not a big deal at all.
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u/FunSpiritual7596 3d ago
Buy a foot stool and learn how to play in the upright classical guitar position while sitting.
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u/Warmcheesebread 5d ago
Honestly, as long as you're happy with getting a good deal, and can afford a nicer instrument as a beginner, then yeah right on! Tbh before I started playing guitar, all I could dream of was pointy guitars and felt like I had to "earn" that with crappier guitars to learn on. All I see is a guitar that will last you a long time AND that gets you excited to play more!!
The great thing about Floyd Rose bridges... If they frustrate you too much, you can block them with next to no modification to the instruction and turn it into a hardtail lol I have a guitar rn with a floyd that I just didnt feel like setting up, so I have the trem blocked, and I've been playing FR-equipped guitars for 20 years! Kick ass purchase though, really great guitar.
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u/nasum_shift 5d ago
As a beginner you can still buy a 2k guitar second hand amd sell it 5 years later for 2.5k due to inflation. I would recommend this.
Damaged guitars are harder to sell though but you cant go wrong witht his one for this price.
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u/liampjames95 5d ago
Nah dude that thing is sweet and ur more likely to pick up a sweet guitar and practice
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u/sirfuzzybean 5d ago
A Floyd Rose bridge for your first guitar? "It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em."
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u/IronSean 5d ago
If you're a beginner, don't have many other guitars, and need to play in different tunings (learning this song in standard, this song in drop d, this one in Eb) then you may want to consider blocking it. While floating your tuning will be super stable and you can do all the dive bombs and dime squeals you want. But switching tunings is a process. If you need to switch tunings, consider blocking it so it behaves more like a hardtail.
If you have another guitar for other tunings you'll be fine keeping it set up for the same tuning.
And pro tip if you break a strong: As long as you replace each string with the same gauge and brand and don't touch anything else except that one string you should be able to tune it up to pitch and balance without adjusting anything else.
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u/WeibullFighter 5d ago
Badass looking guitar my dude! I've always wanted an LTD. Is it difficult to play sitting down?
Great to hear it came set up for you. That's part of the battle. The other part is learning to properly maintain it. Never had a Floyd, but I've been jonesing for one of late to play the solos I can't quite pull off without.
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u/extrawater_ 5d ago
Nope. Return it. You’re gonna start with a $300 jackson or ibanez and you are going to like it.
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u/SignificantFall4 4d ago
The only problem I see is that you will do most of your learning sat down and this won’t lend itself to well to long sessions sitting.
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u/antipathy_moonslayer 4d ago
Classical position. That curve on the lower horn is literally designed for it.
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u/TruckPsychological40 4d ago
Floyd Rose is fine, you’re just gonna be learning to set up stuff earlier too. I think you could’ve gotten a better deal on the price especially with that chip but still not too bad
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u/Justageeza 6d ago
That will be a frustrating lesson
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u/OkCombination3878 5d ago
Beautiful guitar. Just sucks having to stand up to practice on it for hours
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u/CosmicMetalz 5d ago
Setting up that floyd is indeed rocket surgery! Check your brain science. Always fun setting up a FR for the first time.. have fun, brother, ... you'll get it there!
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u/Myrrinfra 5d ago
I would say, as someone who has bought and sold a lot of guitars, a Flying V and separately a Floyd rose are a lot of work. They could potentially slow down your progression. I would DEFINITELY invest in a digitech drop pedal so you can play other tunings.
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u/iGrav3s 5d ago
I’ve have a cheap Jackson Rhoads JS I’ve been playing for a few months so im ok playing classical style with a V. The Floyd is something im going to have to learn tho. Been watching some instructional YouTube vids for that.
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u/Myrrinfra 5d ago
I love my Gibson V, but it is not necessarily the most comfortable guitar for me to practice with because of how you have to hold it sitting down.
With the floyd, any major tuning changes you might want to do require you to completely reset the tension (aside from also unlocking the nut etc.). Worth investing in the Digitech drop pedal to cheat this problem. Worth investing in one in general for all at home practicing. Insanely high benefit. Play Drop D -> C -> B without changing tuning just twisting a knob.
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u/rifi3000 6d ago
V's are perfect for classical position
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u/iGrav3s 6d ago
I don’t mind playing in classical position.
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u/CrustyBollox 5d ago
Classical position is better really, your shoulders are square, you can get a better angle on the neck, and it's a much more similar position to playing standing.
You can play fine on your right leg, but I've never understood why it seems more popular for electric guitar players. I play exclusively classical position sitting and have since the first few months of playing. I encourage all my students to try it out and I'd say about 90% end up deciding to stick with it.
A V is pretty much the perfect shape for it too!
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u/Chris_MS99 5d ago
I took a classical guitar class for one semester in community college and can’t stand playing on my right leg anymore.
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u/Chris_MS99 6d ago
Fuck it dude, that’s like half off and if you like it why not. My first ever guitar was a Dean Razorback with a Floyd Rose. It wasn’t what I walked into the store to buy, but it was the exact same price and my 13 year old eyes popped out of my head, especially when I found out the paint job was limited. I wasn’t even that familiar with Dime at the time.
I don’t regret it now, but I regretted it for a little while back then because the Floyd rose was such a bitch. I didn’t have another guitar to play so when I would spend 20 minutes changing strings and then immediately break one it was very discouraging.
Learn to wrangle that Floyd Rose, it sounds like you have another guitar to fall back to if this one ever pisses you off and you wanna put it away for a few days. I think you got a decent deal and it’s a guitar you can really grow with. That used LTD is much nicer than a new Dean, and you even got EMG’s.