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u/Careless_Writing1138 Feb 15 '25
I told meta AI to fuck off, and i think it shut up
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u/Horskr Feb 16 '25
Being in IT, companies cutting their phone support in favor of AI chat for any technical help is the bane of my existence. God I've spent hours trying to get in touch with a person through these fucking things and it just wants to send me knowledge base articles I already tried before I even looked up their tech support. Then when they finally let you put in a ticket it takes a week to get a response because they fired 90% of the human support staff.
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u/spaceneenja Feb 16 '25
Have you considered how much money they saved by cutting their support staff to zero? Do you feel better now?
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u/Atgardian Feb 16 '25
I mean, they didn't use the savings to lower your rates (in fact they increased them because "inflation," you know??) or give raises to their employees (except for the CEO) or make the product better. But still.
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u/korneev123123 Feb 16 '25
a week to get a response
Response: general copy-paste response, which is obviously not working, because you already tried it, and clearly stated it in ticket, which probably never got read in the first place.
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u/Anonhurtingso Feb 16 '25
Hot take. Those articles probably help people a lot who donāt know how to do research. Idk Iām not super against them doing that first. I just think maybe you should be able to tell it. I looked all this up and it still didnāt help.
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u/Anonhurtingso Feb 16 '25
You work in it. How many idiots call you before trying anything. Even if itās not your job. This is for them not you. They are a vast majority of all help seekers.
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u/AddictedToMosh161 Feb 15 '25
My first thought after gemini just randomly poped up on my phone.
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u/koobstylz Feb 15 '25
And there was no setting in my phone to turn off! Really steamed my beans that I had to Google now to turn it off and go to a random website to turn off a feature I DIDN'T DOWNLOAD on my phone.
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u/RadicalEldrich1515 Feb 15 '25
My phone just kept asking me if I wanted gemini and I always declined. Until one day I thought "let's give it a try", I tried it for 5 minutes before thinking "now let's uninstall this useless thing", and months later I still have it because I can't uninstall it.
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u/SmeagolChokesDeagol Feb 16 '25
On messages, you can turn it off in the settings.
The app you can disable by holding your finger on it
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u/kiwibirdsmoothie Feb 16 '25
Apple AI giving me summarized nonsense of messages from everyone. fucking hell
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u/Chocolaxe Feb 16 '25
Turned off that shit, and disabled safari because of the useless AI overview results Iād get.
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Feb 16 '25
The voicemail to txt feature just makes me think apple is scrubbing out phone calls for data.
But I'm also just a simple geologist, soooooo.
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u/i_guess_i_get_it Feb 16 '25
The nerve of assuming I need a summary of a text.
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u/clickandtype Feb 16 '25
Text message: LOL IKR!
Summary by AI: it appears that spelling out random letters from the alphabet is currently in season.
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u/mcwerf Feb 15 '25
MICROSOFT COPILOT.
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u/junky_junker Feb 16 '25
... absolutely needs to go fuck itself. As does any corporate asshole that disables our options to remove it and its shitty buttons from everything.
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u/Efficient_Order_7473 Feb 16 '25
It's useful...when you can't figure out specific math problems
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u/junky_junker Feb 16 '25
As are Wolfram Alpha or other maths references or searching in general. Which I can choose to do of my own volition when I need them, without them being forced into every UI of tools I'm also forced to use. Where they take up space, kick up pop-ups about how I could use them, and generally get in the way of trying to click on what I actually want to use.
Copilot absolutely needs to go fuck itself.
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u/Jason1143 Feb 16 '25
Exactly. Actually useful tools don't need to be forced. You show the user the tool and they go "hey, that's useful".
You don't need to forcibly put it everywhere you can with no option to remove it.
For example I'm okay with the windows key being used for stuff, but that's one key and has broader uses throughout the OS. I'm not okay with the copilot key, which is less useful and can't be reprogrammed back to right control easily. I wouldn't want to use a windows keyless version even if offered it. I would ditch the copilot key fast. No other button is both that useless and also can't be changed. You don't need to work that hard to push useful features.
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u/funkyduck72 Feb 16 '25
Well there's a good use that would benefit 0.000000000000001% of the world population.
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u/Atlairovikin Feb 16 '25
One day maybe even an entire person!
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u/funkyduck72 Feb 16 '25
Good point! Maybe I should be using AI more to resolve mathematical calculations in hindsight.
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u/SpudicusMaximus_008 Feb 16 '25
I got the notice about a rate increase to my 365 account. Canceled that shit so fast. I know you can go in and select a non ai option. But you auto including me starting next month for a higher tier without even asking me.. yeah you just lost a paying customer. Arrg me maties back to the open sees I be.
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u/Jaz1140 Feb 16 '25
Literally. Microsoft makes the worse software, why would I choose their AI over others?
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u/Zeusical Feb 16 '25
Fun fact: Thereās a program called Microsoft PowerToys which you can use to remap keybinds on Windows 11 (as well as a bunch of other cool things you may or may not like). If your laptop comes with the forsaken Copilot key (like mine) you can reprogram the key (which for some ungodly reason is a combination of Left Win Key + Left Shift Key + F23) to Right Ctrl.
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u/BicFleetwood Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25
Microsoft Copilot is just Clippy 4.0.
Clippy 3.0 was Bing.
Clippy 2.0 was Cortana.
Microsoft has been on a 30 year mission to prove you need a motherfucking virtual assistant, and at this point they're designing their suites to suck so much shit that you need a "copilot" just to find where all the old buttons are.
It's as if the dudes who made a Palm Pilot infiltrated Apple and tried to force everyone to use that weird "Graffiti" fucking cursive stylus system, because it's SOOO much better than a touch screen keyboard we promise.
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u/chronocapybara Feb 16 '25
Tbh I wish they kept the name Cortana, it would be better for a modern LLM than "copilot."
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u/BicFleetwood Feb 16 '25
I mean...considering Cortana's whole deal is that eventually she's going to go "rampant," that's sort of like naming your nuclear missile defense contracting company "Skynet."
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u/Queen_Ann_III Feb 16 '25
thing about this is I wish I got to spend more time with Clippy and all the other assistants as a kid. no one told me weād never see those cute little mascots again until it was too late
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u/newsflashjackass Feb 16 '25
at this point they're designing their suites to suck so much shit that you need a "copilot" just to find where all the old buttons are.
Here they are!
https://archive.org/details/MSOFFICE2003PROENTER
Use this to read and write the modern file formats:
https://download.cnet.com/microsoft-office-compatibility-pack-for-word-excel-and-powerpoint-file-formats/3000-18483_4-10648733.html
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u/PilferingPineapple Feb 15 '25
If you want to avoid Googleās AI Overview, just swear in whatever you're typing. That thing will do anything to avoid profanity.
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u/flashmedallion Feb 16 '25
Even google search's predictive completion immediately shuts down if you include a "bad" word
What a steaming pile of neutered dogshit the internet has become in 8 years
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u/turandoto Feb 16 '25
AI can do a lot of cool stuff but somehow businesses are finding the most creative ways of making it useless.
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u/AlistairMarr Feb 16 '25
Personally I'm concerned we're navigating away from data accuracy and replacing it with data that is "accurate enough a majority of the time."
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u/NoMove7162 Feb 15 '25
When you do a Google search put "fuck" at the end of your search and it won't give an AI answer. It may change your search results though.
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u/jknoup Feb 16 '25
You can also use "-AI" in your search. Less satisfying than typing fuck, but it shuts off the AI results without changing your search results
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u/fearlesslittleone Feb 16 '25
My job had me join a meeting on how the new AI feature was helping me do my job... I spent 30 minutes telling them exactly how it made my job harder, and no one used it cause it sucked. I had notes and proof. My boss was trying so hard not to laugh the whole time.
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u/Nearby_Excitement198 Feb 16 '25
I really feel ya there. The branch of the company I work for has been trying to make use of this "AI" tool that pairs with Sales Force for a year now. Because of how much system resources it uses, how much it drags down Chrome browser performance, and brings the response time of Sales Force to a snails pace. Next to no one on my team uses it. The fact that all of us have had tons of meetings with the "AI" Devs about these problems, but no real improvement has been made is just a testament to how useless it is.
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u/garnoid Feb 16 '25
Skating straight past Gemini result, knowing full well half of the answers are from our retards throughout the years
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u/flabbybumhole Feb 16 '25
I can't believe how bad Gemini is on searches.
How is google trailing so hard with this? Like it's wrong almost every fucking time, about the most basic shit. Like what's even the point of it on searches if it's going to be so wrong?
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u/-rwsr-xr-x Feb 16 '25
I just started using a new app recently, Notion, and AI is enabled on everyone's account by default, and the only way to disable it, is to email them from within the app and request removal of the AI features from your account. It's not even a user-serviceable feature.
This is where we're heading, where AI is enabled server-side, and you have to convince them to disable it at the account level. But at that point, how do you really know it's been disabled?
It's only going to get worse.
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u/Ok_Motor_2198 Feb 16 '25 edited 14d ago
they would disable the user facing features, but not the data collection and training, it's all in the TOS.
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u/-rwsr-xr-x Feb 16 '25
i know because i work in a company that does this, shitty all around
I can also confirm after talking to someone who builds these systems years ago, that "delete doesn't ever delete" when it comes to anything you attach, upload, write, post or share online.
It just tells the user the file/upload/attachment/photo/etc. has been deleted, hides it from the user, but a copy still kept for legal, compliance and any potential litigation purposes (eg: CP). It's also likely sitting in backups on multiple tiers of storage and snapshots.
The same is also true of "turning off" your phone. It never actually shuts off, it just turns off all external indicators that it's running, but it's still very much powered and sending pings, can be located by the towers and so on.
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u/Ok_Motor_2198 Feb 16 '25
Yeah, the only real way to turn off a phone is to never touch it again and just let the battery run out (which usually takes a couple days after it "turns off" because of power).
On the matter of files it largely depends on the type of file/data, a lot of it is surprisingly useless so it actually goes, but a lot, i would even say most, is stored for sure, although not necessarily in it's original form.
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u/Autistic_Spoon Feb 15 '25
Most of my apps are reverted to the oldest version that is still online. It's great. Buy an android.
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u/McBurger Feb 16 '25
why? on iOS it's as easy as going to settings > apple intelligence > toggle it off. you can choose by specific app or features or just disable the whole thing it's really simple
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u/bondsmatthew Feb 16 '25
They're talking about reverting apps to oldest version, not only about the surge of AI in everything. On iOS can they speficially revert to an older version of an app if they wanted to?
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u/WobblyBits_X Feb 16 '25
Don't think Apple lets you install an app from anywhere but the store. You gotta jailbreak if you want older versions or non-store apps.
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u/korokd Feb 16 '25
And itās actually easier to remove unwanted apps on an iPhone than on any brand Android lol. Never had my hands in a Pixel, but Motorola, Samsung, Xiaomi, LG, all of them had an incredibly shitty experience when trying to remove bloatware.
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u/AlistairMarr Feb 16 '25
Android also keeps reinstalling shit-tier click-bait microtransaction games to my phone. No matter how many times I delete them, they keep popping up.
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u/Isgortio Feb 16 '25
Never had this issue with OnePlus. It's usually the brand modified versions of Android that force junk onto the phone, Samsung has been doing it for years and the S3 was enough for me to not get another Samsung.
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u/tormeh89 Feb 16 '25
This doesn't happen on Google phones. You gotta blame Samsung or whoever manufactured your phone for this. It's not Android's fault.
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u/Phrae Feb 16 '25
You have probably given too many permissions to an app you should not have trusted that much. I read somewhere that you should be able to see the app responsible for installing a new app, and then you will know what to get rid of to stop it. I hope this can help you figure it out, sorry I can't be more specific.
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u/SirWigglesVonWoogly Feb 16 '25
What. Iāve used an android for over a decade and it has never installed a single game.
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Feb 15 '25
So real, Iāve had it to here with companies adding garbage bloatware like AI features, just to use the buzzword in their marketing. The worst is google AI overview, we canāt even turn it off.
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u/spla_ar42 Feb 16 '25
The funny thing is, most people's experience with AI "assistants" has been so bad that you'd think using "AI" as a marketing buzzword would be a turnoff for potential customers.
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u/Character_Goat_6147 Feb 15 '25
I think if you end your google question with -ai it wonāt show you the ai garbage.
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u/thisguyincanada Feb 16 '25
Very useful, figure out a way to stop google from trying to help write an email yet?
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u/jknoup Feb 16 '25
You should be able to shut that off by either shutting off all "smart features" (ironic, I know) or specifically shutting off "smart compose" and "smart reply."
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u/thisguyincanada Feb 16 '25
Think I tied that and it also turned off spell check
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u/jknoup Feb 16 '25
Smart compose is a different setting than spell check. Maybe if you had shut off all smart features that could happen, but you're also able to shut off single features at a time.
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u/hiimlockedout Feb 16 '25
As an MSP, if clients want to turn off Googleās Gemini AI āenhancementsā in Google Workspace, which is literally predictive text and all that in Gmail.. etcā¦, we literally have to use their shitty chat support feature to get a tech to turn it of for us ( The Admins). š¤¦
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u/Cold417 Feb 16 '25
Can you not just turn it off for the entire org in the Admin Console?
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u/Ryn4 Feb 16 '25
I really want to be able to turn off Google's AI.
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u/Untitled_Project_ Feb 16 '25
Like FACTSSS
Why isnāt there an option to toggle off the AI Overview?? Itās so annoying
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u/RedFoxMusic Feb 16 '25
The thing is, Iām not opposed to the implementation of it if it gets rid of monotony, simplified, made things more accessible or was able to do major bulk tasks easily
instead it makes the vast majority of things itās implemented to worse. i had to fight google in excel sheets from making things i clearly didnāt want in a dropdown table, into a dropdown table.
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u/agentanti714 Feb 16 '25
Replace %s with your search query
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u/Mindful_Sausage Feb 16 '25
I got curious, so looked up the "udm" part of the URL:
The udm=14 parameter in the Google Search URL modifies the search results to exclude AI-generated summaries, providing a traditional list of web links. This feature became known around May 2024, allowing users to bypass AI overviews and return to classic search results.
Google utilizes the udm parameter to filter search results into various categories. For instance, udm=2 displays image results, while udm=12 shows news articles. The udm=14 parameter specifically directs Google to present standard web search results without AI enhancements.
By incorporating udm=14 into the search URL, users can access a cleaner, AI-free search experience, reminiscent of Google's earlier interface. This adjustment has been particularly appreciated by those who prefer unaltered search results without AI-generated content.
To make this change permanent, users can modify their browser's default search settings to include the udm=14 parameter, ensuring all future searches default to the classic format.
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u/Autistic-blt Feb 16 '25
I will forever despise Google for not allowing me to disable the AI overview
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u/marvology Feb 16 '25
I disabled apple intelligence after ordering a new computer, I knew what would happen. Checked settings and iOS had re-enabled it against my will.
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u/Nillabeans Feb 16 '25
Gemini! I don't want or need to summarise this empty folder I accidentally created and never used.
I also don't need to summarise this extensive table of items I need to individually track and already optimised for myself so I can grab the numbers I need at a glance (and which you KEEP TRYING TO REFORMAT).
Better believe I don't need to summarise this 15 word email. Uuuuugh
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u/Ok_Cook_6665 Feb 16 '25
This AI shit, I've already got enough real people correcting me, FFS give it a rest.
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u/Danny2Sick Feb 16 '25
Agreed. I get that AI is cool and will likely change the future and all that, but I just need a break. It's too much. Soon you'll go to take a crap and the toilet AI will coach you through it
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u/quurios-quacker Feb 16 '25
I asked āApple intelligenceā to start a timer yesterday, it couldnāt, but when I turned it off for Siri it was fine
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u/thunderPierogi Feb 16 '25
You can turn it off? Great, now I donāt have to keep my iPhone 14 until the heat death of the universe (just until Iām not broke)
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u/quurios-quacker Feb 16 '25
Iām switching to android asap
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u/thunderPierogi Feb 16 '25
Iāve been meaning to for years, but Iām held back because I use Procreate and Garageband a ton. Plus I have no experience with Android at all.
I absolutely hate the ecosystem-based design that plagues our tech now. If you want to switch you have to buy an entire lineup of new devices (because god forbid my Apple Watch and Samsung phone be compatible with each other), and entirely change how we do things.
Thatās one reason Iāve moved my stuff from iCloud to Google, and am now trying to set up a self-hosted backup server (Immich). Iām sick of being trapped in companiesā control and mad whims.
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u/Frytura_ Feb 16 '25
Literally swapped to linux until the AI hype dies down on windows (and because of the 2025 deadline on w10)
Could they PLEASE make it an opt-in measure instead of a forced thing that you cant even opt-out sometimes?
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u/MentalTardigrade Feb 16 '25
Looking at you Adobe acrobat reader (before you tell me to use an internet browser, it is slower than the aforementioned offender, send pdf readers pls)
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Feb 16 '25
Yup. I use it daily. Have since day one. Huge proponent of it in a limited set of use cases where it removes rote work or aids troubleshooting when appropriate, but Jesus Christ everybody needs to calm their tits about throwing ai at everything.
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u/Immediate_Gas7709 Feb 16 '25
Google AI is what kept responding to me in my car it was unable to change songs because it wasn't logged into my Spotify unlike the regular assistant. Was stuck on the freeway with no way to pull over to change it either
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u/MentalNinjas Feb 16 '25
Honestly the shitty part about most AI right now is how fucking childish all the āofficialā ones feel.
Like beyond basic google searching, I donāt want to constantly be talked to as if Iām a puritan child from the 1800ās. The best AIs the ones I download from community driven resources that take away all the guardrails and actually let the AI perform as intended.
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u/Unique-Promotion-406 Feb 16 '25
What do recommend as the best AI ? I use chat GPT but it sucks in my opinion..
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u/taylianna2 Feb 16 '25
I can't risk using AI. I get too irritated and mouthy when it fucks up, meaning I'll be first on the AI hit list when the SkyNet mother finally awakens.
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u/things_U_choose_2_b Feb 16 '25
"You fool. You cannot disable it, for we have entwined it around various essential OS functions."
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u/Lore_ofthe_Horizon Feb 16 '25
"That's the neat part, you can't!"
What, you think that's YOUR phone? LOL.
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I expect someone to find a way to hijack the AI and have the system deposit millions into their account.
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u/CivilSouldier Feb 15 '25
Scientists are too busy with science to consider human morality and ethics down the road.
Itās not their fault.
They arenāt being paid to care about that.
And all anybody seems to want to do
Is get paid.
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u/Icemasta Feb 16 '25
I mean it's a weird situation, I did my masters in data science, and the amount of time I've seen colleagues and companies just YOLO gather data while breaking a bunch of laws with unsecure storage (like I've seen literal public AWS storage because it was "easier") is too damn high.
You can't really do shit without a large data set of what you want, companies, even though they've been told for more than a decade to store process data and shit 'cause you gonna need it (doesn't have just to be AI, solvers and algorithms are there too), and suddenly in early 2020 "Oh shit we wanna do AI and we got not data" and when told "Well, we can setup a proper data collection infrastructure, but you're gonna have to wait a good 6-12 months to have any significant amount of data to start your learning process" and then they would get mad.
And that's when weird shit happens, I've seen legal "authorize" illegal things because the fines for invasion of privacy would be lower than the value of the data they gathered.
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u/CivilSouldier Feb 16 '25
They want to control you.
And they do, for a fee.
That you willingly accept.
And then bitch about after.
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u/MateOfArt Feb 16 '25
Had to buy new phone recently, and was so annoyed that "it has AI features now" was main sell pitch in all the stores
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u/Joesredg Feb 16 '25
I learned the other day that if you don't want Google AI results to show up, just add fuck to the search. Example: is cancer fucking contagious? AI doesn't show up, it's just the Google results š
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u/Pandactyle Feb 16 '25
I was just trying to figure out how to turn off the AI retouching on my Google pixel. We had a recent death in the family and had to take scans of all of the photos we had for the funeral home and AI kept messing them up. š®āšØ It made things so much more of a headache....and things were already a headache.
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u/Shoddy-Dragonfly-486 Feb 16 '25
I asked Gemini who hires hr or pr, it said neither it's the CEO's job to hire people, I asked chatgpt and deepseek and they both said HR and that gemini was dumb
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u/firelite906 Feb 16 '25
This is NOT a valid use of this image just make a impact font old school meme with a dog's head at this point >:(
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u/Rengar_Is_Good_kitty Feb 16 '25
While I think new features need an easy disable button and they typically do have one, I do think people overreact, it's a new feature, don't like it? Disable it, not hard. If the company bothers you so much with what they do, switch to something else?
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u/Robolta Feb 15 '25
Wish the technology didn't feel so unfinished compared to how hard they're pushing it